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2014-01-29 05:20:04 PM  
Odd argument - "the Nobel prize is a joke, means nothing" - then proceeds to argue for two hours that that one person or another can't POSSIBLY deserve one, because reasons.
If it's a joke,and means nothing, why are you still talking?
 
2014-01-29 05:20:07 PM  

umad: OrangeFree: Making all nations hyper suspicious of one another is "a fundamental requirement for peace?"

Yeah! How dare he make nations suspicious of one another by exposing the spying they were doing because they were suspicious of one another!


I said hyper suspicious, to the determent of foreign relations. We all know everyone spies on everyone, but this whole thing created an even wackier layer of mistrust.
 
2014-01-29 05:20:46 PM  

jshine: OrangeFree: Making all nations hyper suspicious of one another is "a fundamental requirement for peace?"

Honestly, has this planet gone completely nutty bananas?


That's like saying Erin Brockovich was at fault for stirring people up by publicizing PG&E's toxic chemical releases.

Shooting the messenger is rarely the right response.


Not really a fair comparison. What part of exposing PG&E caused major strain to diplomatic relations again? Not shooting the messenger - but sometimes the messenger's a dick and delivered the message with dickish motives.
 
2014-01-29 05:20:53 PM  

BafflerMeal: For the folks who don't like Snowden due to 'his personality', or narcissism, or 'being a prick':

How did you arrive at those viewpoints?  I don't recall a ton of interviews.  I may have missed them through.

If you answer is wrapped up in the crime, discount my question.  Trying to figure out how folks have psychoanalyzed Snowden as a public figure like they were neighbors.


He looks like the douchey IT guy that we all know.  That's enough.
 
2014-01-29 05:20:57 PM  

RanDomino: whidbey
Obama has also somehow managed to deflect the hardliners' war hardon to attack Iran and North Korea

Let me guess- his push to bomb Syria was 5th-dimensional-chess, because he knew that it would fail so hard as to nail down the coffin on any further large military engagements in the Middle East, right?


It didn't happen, and also noticeably absent were the lies and manipulation of Congress as seen in the Bush years. And a simple Googling shows a bunch of right-wing nutjob blogs agree with you, so to me that's a red flag.
 
2014-01-29 05:21:18 PM  

Khellendros: Nemo's Brother: Probably the dumbest post on Fark today. Good jerb.

How is that dumb?  It's obvious to anyone who can walk and breathe at the same that while it was awarded to him, it wasn't about what he did, it was about what he represented in the U.S. - a turn away from warmongering and choosing to end two wars and institute foreign policy that wasn't about aggression and antagonism.


Evil does exist in the world.  A non-violent movement could not have halted Hitler's armies.  Negotiations cannot convince al Qaeda's leaders to lay down their arms.  To say that force may sometimes be necessary is not a call to cynicism -- it is a recognition of history; the imperfections of man and the limits of reason.
 
2014-01-29 05:21:24 PM  
www.portlandmercury.com
 
2014-01-29 05:21:39 PM  

kindms: He wanted to go in to Syria and only didnt when the entire country basically said NO. So keep f-ing that chicken. He has killed more innocents by drone than Bush, he has waged war on journalists and whistleblowers never before seen by US presidents. He has presided over ALL of the NSA BS that we keep learning about. And he continues to go on TV and tell everyone it is all legal and above board only to have his own appointed review board turn around and say he is full of crap.

Obama is worse than Bush for the simple reason that under his administration all the things that democrats railed against under a republican administration have become normalized and accepted operating procedure under Obama.

He also assassinated American citizens including a 16 year old boy without due process afforded to them by the constitution. Funny how that fact gets glossed over by the "cult"


img.fark.net
 
2014-01-29 05:21:41 PM  

jso2897: Odd argument - "the Nobel prize is a joke, means nothing" - then proceeds to argue for two hours that that one person or another can't POSSIBLY deserve one, because reasons.
If it's a joke,and means nothing, why are you still talking?


The Nobel prize is also sour.
 
2014-01-29 05:21:55 PM  

sendtodave: Have you ever met an actual European?   When you tell them you are from America, they start speaking slowly and simply, because they assume you are a child.


unless you are a black basketball player, then they throw bananas at you while making monkey noises.
 
2014-01-29 05:22:03 PM  
jshine:
He broke the law, certainly, but legal/illegal is not the same thing as right/wrong.  If the early Americans thought that way, there would be no United States (since the colonies were the rightful property of Great Britain).  We exist as a nation because of treason.

I think on the one hand, he had the moral high ground when he whistle blew on the spying of US citizens.  But, there is the big question of how much and how damaging is the info he gave which ended up with various foreign powers.  Maybe it's not - I don't know.

We spy on foriegn countries and foreign citizens and they all know that (and they spy back presumably - otherwise they are stupid).  I and most US citizens (I would think) have zero problems with that.

So, "hero"?  I'm not so sure.
 
2014-01-29 05:22:12 PM  

sendtodave: SirEattonHogg: TheWhoppah:  wee: ManateeGag: He deserves it just as much as Obama did.

More than Obama.  Snowden actually did something.

Giving the award to Obama was a gesture to recognize the citizen voters of the United States... to recognize our collective ability to see the fear mongering GOP asswipes for who they really were and reject their "bomb bomb Iran" preemptive-war policies.  We elected, as our president, a man named  Barack Hussein Obama just a few years after falling hook-line-and-sinker for the GOP/FoxNews lie machine regarding another man named Hussein.  I'm sure it took brass balls for Obama to even consider running for president but this award was for the everyday Americans that stood in line to vote for him.

Probably the dumbest post on Fark today.  Good jerb.

This. A gesture to the voters of the US?  Get the f--k out of here.

It was a plain and simple "f--k you" to Dubya.   I didn't like Bush, but it was akin to Europeans constantly whining about America this and that during the entire two terms of George Bush.  I don't think the American public needs a pat on the head from the Nobel Prize Committee for how it votes or condemnation either.

They think we do.

Have you ever met an actual European?   When you tell them you are from America, they start speaking slowly and simply, because they assume you are a child.

"That's good, American Johnny!  You finally learned that voting for Republican is wrong!  Oh, no, maybe not, you just allowed them to shut down your government.  Keep trying, Johnny!"

They just know that they are the real adults in the room.


So, democrats are adults and republicans children.. what about unaffiliated voters? I assume we are the group standing in the corner watching the adults and children try to one-up each other, laughing.
 
2014-01-29 05:22:35 PM  
Well Gore got one for no reason, so why not?
 
2014-01-29 05:22:46 PM  

jso2897: Odd argument - "the Nobel prize is a joke, means nothing" - then proceeds to argue for two hours that that one person or another can't POSSIBLY deserve one, because reasons.
If it's a joke,and means nothing, why are you still talking?


BECAUSE ONLY WHITE PEOPLE WHO GO ALONG WITH WHAT THE US DOES SHOULD GET IT
NOT ANYONE ELSE.

Sheesh.
 
2014-01-29 05:23:56 PM  

kindms: whidbey: tylerdurden217: I really have no issues with President Obama, I even voted for him both times. But I really did not understand why he won that award. It made no sense then and it makes even less sense now.

It totally made sense. It was the world's way of thanking the US for not electing another stupid warmonger like Bush.


Was Bush a warmonger? He came across as the mildly retarded frontman for a cabal of warmongers.

You know, little things like having difficulty speaking in public and generally making a tit of himself, while god knows who actually planned the wars.

Yes, I know we're still stuck cleaning up his legacy in Afghanistaq. But in the last 5 years, Obama has also somehow managed to deflect the hardliners' war hardon to attack Iran and North Korea, so that is actually saying something. Romney, had he been elected, would have been pushing for both.

He wanted to go in to Syria and only didnt when the entire country basically said NO. So keep f-ing that chicken. He has killed more innocents by drone than Bush,


How many Americans have been killed in the wars started in Bush's reign?

How many non-American civilians have been killed in the same conflicts?

he has waged war on journalists and whistleblowers never before seen by US presidents.

Nixon doctrine.

And do you think a different president would have handled Assange and Snowden differently?

He has presided over ALL of the NSA BS that we keep learning about.

Bush didn't?

And he continues to go on TV and tell everyone it is all legal and above board only to have his own appointed review board turn around and say he is full of crap.

Obama is worse than Bush for the simple reason that under his administration all the things that democrats railed against under a republican administration have become normalized and accepted operating procedure under Obama.


Both sides are bad, so Bush is better?

Makes you sound kind of racist, dude.

He also assassinated American citizens including a 16 year old boy without due process afforded to them by the constitution. Funny how that fact gets glossed over by the "cult"

Yeah... your post leaves me thinking that if anyone's a member of a "cult"... it's you.
 
2014-01-29 05:24:09 PM  

RminusQ: Being nominated for a Nobel Prize is not a notable thing, rarely is an actual thing, and is in no sense a newsworthy item. Reporters should farking know that by now.


Horseshiat. If your name is Edward Snowden at this moment in time then using a public toilet is a newsworthy item.

Cyberluddite: Well, it's not like the award ceremony is in L.A. or anything--it's in Sweden.


Heh. That's awesome.
 
2014-01-29 05:24:17 PM  

jso2897: Odd argument - "the Nobel prize is a joke, means nothing" - then proceeds to argue for two hours that that one person or another can't POSSIBLY deserve one, because reasons.
If it's a joke,and means nothing, why are you still talking?


It does come with a cash prize. It's a million rupees, or whatever they have over there.

So there's that
 
2014-01-29 05:24:53 PM  

whidbey: How is this a "troll," subby? The little biatch risked his life and career to blow the whistle on the NSA.

It's totally a peace move. Do yourself a favor and look up the word "troll" sometime.


He farking took the job on purpose to collect evidence.  That's not "risking your career" that's "achieving your goal."

Boo-farking-hoo if he didn't think it out.
 
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2014-01-29 05:25:13 PM  

kindms: It totally made sense. It was the world's way of thanking the US for not electing another stupid warmonger like Bush. Yes, I know we're still stuck cleaning up his legacy in Afghanistaq. But in the last 5 years, Obama has also somehow managed to deflect the hardliners' war hardon to attack Iran and North Korea, so that is actually saying something. Romney, had he been elected, would have been pushing for both.

He wanted to go in to Syria and only didnt when the entire country basically said NO. So keep f-ing that chicken. He has killed more innocents by drone than Bush, he has waged war on journalists and whistleblowers never before seen by US presidents. He has presided over ALL of the NSA BS that we keep learning about. And he continues to go on TV and tell everyone it is all legal and above board only to have his own appointed review board turn around and say he is full of crap.

Obama is worse than Bush for the simple reason that under his administration all the things that democrats railed against under a republican administration have become normalized and accepted operating procedure under Obama.

He also assassinated American citizens including a 16 year old boy without due process afforded to them by the constitution. Funny how that fact gets glossed over by the "cult"


When did you become a racist?
 
2014-01-29 05:25:15 PM  

smoky2010: sendtodave: SirEattonHogg: TheWhoppah:  wee: ManateeGag: He deserves it just as much as Obama did.

More than Obama.  Snowden actually did something.

Giving the award to Obama was a gesture to recognize the citizen voters of the United States... to recognize our collective ability to see the fear mongering GOP asswipes for who they really were and reject their "bomb bomb Iran" preemptive-war policies.  We elected, as our president, a man named  Barack Hussein Obama just a few years after falling hook-line-and-sinker for the GOP/FoxNews lie machine regarding another man named Hussein.  I'm sure it took brass balls for Obama to even consider running for president but this award was for the everyday Americans that stood in line to vote for him.

Probably the dumbest post on Fark today.  Good jerb.

This. A gesture to the voters of the US?  Get the f--k out of here.

It was a plain and simple "f--k you" to Dubya.   I didn't like Bush, but it was akin to Europeans constantly whining about America this and that during the entire two terms of George Bush.  I don't think the American public needs a pat on the head from the Nobel Prize Committee for how it votes or condemnation either.

They think we do.

Have you ever met an actual European?   When you tell them you are from America, they start speaking slowly and simply, because they assume you are a child.

"That's good, American Johnny!  You finally learned that voting for Republican is wrong!  Oh, no, maybe not, you just allowed them to shut down your government.  Keep trying, Johnny!"

They just know that they are the real adults in the room.

So, democrats are adults and republicans children.. what about unaffiliated voters? I assume we are the group standing in the corner watching the adults and children try to one-up each other, laughing.


No, Europeans are adults and Americans are children.  This is obvious to them, based on the stupidity of those who we elect.

Good guess though!  Keep practicing, Johnny!
 
2014-01-29 05:25:54 PM  

MadMattressMack: You know who else was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize?


Bob Uecker?
 
2014-01-29 05:26:38 PM  
People asking why did Obama win the Nobel are being disingenuous.   He won because he wasn't George W. Bush.
 
2014-01-29 05:27:36 PM  

TheWhoppah: wee: ManateeGag: He deserves it just as much as Obama did.

More than Obama.  Snowden actually did something.

Giving the award to Obama was a gesture to recognize the citizen voters of the United States... to recognize our collective ability to see the fear mongering GOP asswipes for who they really were and reject their "bomb bomb Iran" preemptive-war policies.  We elected, as our president, a man named  Barack Hussein Obama just a few years after falling hook-line-and-sinker for the GOP/FoxNews lie machine regarding another man named Hussein.  I'm sure it took brass balls for Obama to even consider running for president but this award was for the everyday Americans that stood in line to vote for him.


That makes as much sense as giving the award to Jeri Ryan's breasts.  Those are two of the biggest reasons why Barack is in office.
 
2014-01-29 05:27:41 PM  

Lsherm: whidbey: How is this a "troll," subby? The little biatch risked his life and career to blow the whistle on the NSA.

It's totally a peace move. Do yourself a favor and look up the word "troll" sometime.

He farking took the job on purpose to collect evidence.  That's not "risking your career" that's "achieving your goal."

Boo-farking-hoo if he didn't think it out.


He still took a huge risk doing what he did.

Jesus, does the Police State give you that big of a hardon or what, dude?
 
2014-01-29 05:28:41 PM  

yakmans_dad: People asking why did Obama win the Nobel are being disingenuous.   He won because he wasn't George W. Bush.


No farking shiat. The entire world breathed a sigh of relief when Bush left office. That right there deserves an award.
 
2014-01-29 05:29:27 PM  
blatz514:   You know who else was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize?

Bob Uecker?



I'd second that nomination.  He's my fav, along with Vin Scully.
 
2014-01-29 05:30:09 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Snowden didn't reveal anything anyone with a functioning brain stem knew since at least 2006.


Agreed. But Snowden handed over proof.

Anybody know who nominated him? Is it in the article?
 
2014-01-29 05:30:14 PM  

blatz514: MadMattressMack: You know who else was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize?

Bob Uecker?


No one. No one was nominated in 1948.
 
2014-01-29 05:30:15 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Snowden didn't reveal anything anyone with a functioning brain stem knew didn't know since at least 2006.


There, FTFM. I'm just ticked off with the folks over-glamourizing what he did.
 
2014-01-29 05:30:44 PM  

whidbey: Bith Set Me Up: Snowden didn't reveal anything anyone with a functioning brain stem knew since at least 2006.

lolwut


Yeah, he should have said since the Patriot Act, but actually much earlier than that. The only revelation that surprised me was spying on Brazil.
 
2014-01-29 05:31:51 PM  

Lsherm: whidbey: How is this a "troll," subby? The little biatch risked his life and career to blow the whistle on the NSA.

It's totally a peace move. Do yourself a favor and look up the word "troll" sometime.

He farking took the job on purpose to collect evidence.  That's not "risking your career" that's "achieving your goal."

Boo-farking-hoo if he didn't think it out.


Huh.  Don't recall reading that before.
 
2014-01-29 05:32:25 PM  

whidbey: yakmans_dad: People asking why did Obama win the Nobel are being disingenuous.   He won because he wasn't George W. Bush.

No farking shiat. The entire world breathed a sigh of relief when Bush left office. That right there deserves an award.


In hindsight, seeing what a crappy president Obama is, I'd take 4 more years of Dubya. No, I don't like wars and such, but Obama is just taking up space in the White House. Its like were are all just waiting out this last term so that we can start actually doing something.
 
2014-01-29 05:33:07 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Bith Set Me Up: Snowden didn't reveal anything anyone with a functioning brain stem knew didn't know since at least 2006.

There, FTFM. I'm just ticked off with the folks over-glamourizing what he did.


but yet it took his actions to create a situation where the media really reported on it and congress people started asking questions and the courts started ruling on the legality of it all.
 
2014-01-29 05:33:16 PM  

whidbey: MadMattressMack: You know who else was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize?

I find it funny that the person whose namesake is the prize is ultimately responsible for god knows many deaths through the use of explosives.


 Unbeknownst to his family, friends or colleagues, he had left most of his wealth in trust, in order to fund the awards that would become known as the <a data-cke-saved-href="<a href=" href="<a href=" http:="" en.wikipedia.org="" wiki="" nobel_prize"="" target="_blank">Nobel Prizes
 
2014-01-29 05:34:07 PM  

simplicimus: whidbey: Bith Set Me Up: Snowden didn't reveal anything anyone with a functioning brain stem knew since at least 2006.

lolwut

Yeah, he should have said since the Patriot Act, but actually much earlier than that. The only revelation that surprised me was spying on Brazil.


Without actual confirmation though, it's just tinfoil conspiracy nonsense. You might as well have said they were in contact with the Lizard People.
 
2014-01-29 05:34:26 PM  

smoky2010: In hindsight, seeing what a crappy president Obama is, I'd take 4 more years of Dubya.


how old are you?
 
2014-01-29 05:34:50 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-29 05:35:04 PM  

whidbey: simplicimus: whidbey: Bith Set Me Up: Snowden didn't reveal anything anyone with a functioning brain stem knew since at least 2006.

lolwut

Yeah, he should have said since the Patriot Act, but actually much earlier than that. The only revelation that surprised me was spying on Brazil.

Without actual confirmation though, it's just tinfoil conspiracy nonsense. You might as well have said they were in contact with the Lizard People.


Shh. We don't talk about them.
 
2014-01-29 05:35:40 PM  

chachi88: whidbey: MadMattressMack: You know who else was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize?

I find it funny that the person whose namesake is the prize is ultimately responsible for god knows many deaths through the use of explosives.

 Unbeknownst to his family, friends or colleagues, he had left most of his wealth in trust, in order to fund the awards that would become known as the <a data-cke-saved-href="<a href=" href="<a href=" http:="" en.wikipedia.org="" wiki="" nobel_prize"="" target="_blank">Nobel Prizes


Yeah but Nobel's invention caused a lot of death and damage to people, animals and property over the past 100 years. Don't you find that even the least bit lulzy?
 
2014-01-29 05:36:16 PM  

smoky2010: whidbey: yakmans_dad: People asking why did Obama win the Nobel are being disingenuous.   He won because he wasn't George W. Bush.

No farking shiat. The entire world breathed a sigh of relief when Bush left office. That right there deserves an award.

In hindsight, seeing what a crappy president Obama is, I'd take 4 more years of Dubya. No, I don't like wars and such, but Obama is just taking up space in the White House. Its like were are all just waiting out this last term so that we can start actually doing something.



I don't know -- the fact that we've finally addressed (if incompletely) the healthcare mess pretty much makes up for every other way in which I'm disappointed with Obama.
 
2014-01-29 05:37:12 PM  
They should also give one to St Vlad for accepting this whistle blower on Asylum, not many people have the nerve to protect someone from the criminal regeme in the US.
 
2014-01-29 05:38:44 PM  

SirEattonHogg: So, you can't discern the difference between a private citizen who writes political articles critical of a government but neither works for the government nor has access to any sensitive information versus a person who signed a confidentiality agreement with his employer (a government), had access to a lot of state secrets and then fled to various foreign countries revealing sensitive state secrets along the way.

Okay, that makes sense.


Snowden was not a government employee, he worked for a private, for-profit business called Booz Allen Hamilton. He was a nobody working for one of many private businesses, just imagine how many others there are who had the same access to surveillance upon the American public who are content to take home their fat paychecks without speaking up.
The government is literally outsourcing national security:


Seventy percent of America's intelligence budget now flows to private contractors. Going by this year's estimated budget of about $80 billion, that makes private intelligence a $56 billion-a-year industry.
 
2014-01-29 05:38:44 PM  

Nabb1: They've given it to people who have done much worse harm to the world.


1979.
 
2014-01-29 05:39:03 PM  

Chris Ween: whidbey: simplicimus: whidbey: Bith Set Me Up: Snowden didn't reveal anything anyone with a functioning brain stem knew since at least 2006.

lolwut

Yeah, he should have said since the Patriot Act, but actually much earlier than that. The only revelation that surprised me was spying on Brazil.

Without actual confirmation though, it's just tinfoil conspiracy nonsense. You might as well have said they were in contact with the Lizard People.

Shh. We don't talk about them.


Why not? They have the best weed.

www.morethings.com
 
2014-01-29 05:39:42 PM  

smoky2010: Stinkyy: Wow, can we get this to over 4,000? The B.O. Nobel thread went down in the anals of Fark.

/(Ignore the thread badge on the right, I don't have time to fix it right now.)

//Yes, the missing n was on purpose

Anals? The word you were looking for is "annals"



Thanks for the superb annalysis, bro!
 
2014-01-29 05:39:56 PM  

smoky2010: In hindsight, seeing what a crappy president Obama is, I'd take 4 more years of Dubya


hahahaha

no
 
2014-01-29 05:40:36 PM  

smoky2010: whidbey: yakmans_dad: People asking why did Obama win the Nobel are being disingenuous.   He won because he wasn't George W. Bush.

No farking shiat. The entire world breathed a sigh of relief when Bush left office. That right there deserves an award.

In hindsight, seeing what a crappy president Obama is, I'd take 4 more years of Dubya. No, I don't like wars and such, but Obama is just taking up space in the White House. Its like were are all just waiting out this last term so that we can start actually doing something.


Well, to many on the left, Obama has just been a continuation of Bush. Particularly on foreign policy. So, yes, he's been disappointing.

I think the belly-aching from the Republican establishment is an exercise in kabuki theater. (The belly-aching by the Tea Party? Dumbos getting wound up by professional fund raisers.)
 
2014-01-29 05:40:37 PM  

whidbey: Lsherm: whidbey: How is this a "troll," subby? The little biatch risked his life and career to blow the whistle on the NSA.

It's totally a peace move. Do yourself a favor and look up the word "troll" sometime.

He farking took the job on purpose to collect evidence.  That's not "risking your career" that's "achieving your goal."

Boo-farking-hoo if he didn't think it out.

He still took a huge risk doing what he did.

Jesus, does the Police State give you that big of a hardon or what, dude?


When I was growing up in the 80s I thought of Republicans as the police state's biggest proponents.  And the war on drugs.  And also the people most likely to say stupid shiat like, "America, love it or leave it."   Turns out there are authority fellators everywhere.
 
2014-01-29 05:41:50 PM  

sendtodave: smoky2010: sendtodave: SirEattonHogg: TheWhoppah:  wee: ManateeGag: He deserves it just as much as Obama did.

More than Obama.  Snowden actually did something.

Giving the award to Obama was a gesture to recognize the citizen voters of the United States... to recognize our collective ability to see the fear mongering GOP asswipes for who they really were and reject their "bomb bomb Iran" preemptive-war policies.  We elected, as our president, a man named  Barack Hussein Obama just a few years after falling hook-line-and-sinker for the GOP/FoxNews lie machine regarding another man named Hussein.  I'm sure it took brass balls for Obama to even consider running for president but this award was for the everyday Americans that stood in line to vote for him.

Probably the dumbest post on Fark today.  Good jerb.

This. A gesture to the voters of the US?  Get the f--k out of here.

It was a plain and simple "f--k you" to Dubya.   I didn't like Bush, but it was akin to Europeans constantly whining about America this and that during the entire two terms of George Bush.  I don't think the American public needs a pat on the head from the Nobel Prize Committee for how it votes or condemnation either.

They think we do.

Have you ever met an actual European?   When you tell them you are from America, they start speaking slowly and simply, because they assume you are a child.

"That's good, American Johnny!  You finally learned that voting for Republican is wrong!  Oh, no, maybe not, you just allowed them to shut down your government.  Keep trying, Johnny!"

They just know that they are the real adults in the room.

So, democrats are adults and republicans children.. what about unaffiliated voters? I assume we are the group standing in the corner watching the adults and children try to one-up each other, laughing.

No, Europeans are adults and Americans are children.  This is obvious to them, based on the stupidity of those who we elect.

Good guess though!  Keep practicing, John ...


As the French have month-long riots and black soccer players are called racial slurs and people stab and riot over soccer. Soccer is a third-world sport perfect for those with a third-world mentality. Much like feeding Christians to lions and gladiator events.

Europeans have set themselves up to be completely dependent upon the government for their day-to-day survival. And when they don't get their way, they riot and loot.
 
2014-01-29 05:42:00 PM  
Good, he deserves the prize.
 
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