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(RealClear)   Now *this* is how you troll: Edward Snowden nominated for Nobel Peace Prize   (realclear.com) divider line 316
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2014-01-29 02:14:20 PM
There's no way he can accept this, right? It would be like Roman Polansky coming over to the US for an Oscar.
Right?
 
2014-01-29 02:21:00 PM

tlars699: There's no way he can accept this, right? It would be like Roman Polansky coming over to the US for an Oscar.
Right?


Well, it's not like the award ceremony is in L.A. or anything--it's in Sweden.  But anyway, just as Woody Allen never shows up to the Oscars but still gets nominated and is eligible to win, you don't have to show up at the Nobel awards ceremony to win the prize--it isn't like a "must be present to win" raffle drawing.
 
2014-01-29 02:44:33 PM
Being nominated for a Nobel Prize is not a notable thing, rarely is an actual thing, and is in no sense a newsworthy item. Reporters should farking know that by now.
 
2014-01-29 02:53:53 PM
He deserves it just as much as Obama did.
 
2014-01-29 02:55:25 PM
They could put it at the bottom of a cereal box.
 
2014-01-29 02:57:10 PM
I've mentioned this at every other article talking about someone nominated for the Nobel Prize.

The Nobel Prize nominations are open to thousands of public academics and officials around the country and they are free to nominate whoever they wish. Most nominate good nominees. A few nominate their mothers. Others nominate nominees like Hitler (1939) and Stalin (1945 & 1948).
 
2014-01-29 03:49:49 PM
They've given it to people who have done much worse harm to the world.
 
2014-01-29 04:04:32 PM

ManateeGag: He deserves it just as much as Obama did.


Moreso, actually:  Obama got his for, well, no one really knows, because he hadn't actually done much at that point except win an election.

You could argue that Snowden, by exposing the pervasive surveillance capabilities of the NSA, made us all a little bit more free, if only because we *KNOW* we're being surveilled now.
 
2014-01-29 04:15:41 PM
As much as I dislike snowden's personality and motives for doing what he did as less than altruistic, they're right. Exposing wide-spread abuse of the NSA's telecom monitoring network and the US Government flagrantly violation it's citizens constitutional rights is a big deal, might be worthy of the prize.

However, as people have mentioned, a nomination does not mean he'll win it, and it's not really notable.
 
wee [TotalFark]
2014-01-29 04:23:29 PM

ManateeGag: He deserves it just as much as Obama did.


More than Obama.  Snowden actually did something.
 
2014-01-29 04:34:48 PM
How is this a "troll," subby? The little biatch risked his life and career to blow the whistle on the NSA.

It's totally a peace move. Do yourself a favor and look up the word "troll" sometime.
 
2014-01-29 04:37:11 PM
Clearly a plot to arrest him........Simpsons did it.


static1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-01-29 04:37:31 PM

hardinparamedic: As much as I dislike snowden's personality and motives for doing what he did as less than altruistic, they're right.


I'm not Snowden's personal fluffer or anything, but what are you basing your disdain for his "personality" on?

To me at least, Assange's ego and lust for attention (putting aside what he actually did) was light years more apparent from the get-go.
 
2014-01-29 04:37:54 PM

dittybopper: Moreso, actually: Obama got his for, well, no one really knows, because he hadn't actually done much at that point except win an election.


He was prosecuting a war (or 2) at the time, so maybe it was just trolling?  After all, they also gave one to Kissinger, so you know they like to troll.
 
2014-01-29 04:38:59 PM

wee: ManateeGag: He deserves it just as much as Obama did.

More than Obama.  Snowden actually did something.


I really have no issues with President Obama, I even voted for him both times. But I really did not understand why he won that award. It made no sense then and it makes even less sense now.

I hope Snowden really does win the Nobel Peace Prize. I'm not saying that what he did was right or wrong. I'm not even suggesting that he would be the most deserving of the prize, but it would at least keep the conversation going regarding privacy.
 
2014-01-29 04:39:04 PM
Lookit tha funny man, Momma, his head assploded!

Come away, dear. That man's just a conservative. The cognitive dissonance of supporting law and order politics while hating and distrusting the government police state just became too much for his skull. When he tried to believe that the cops are never wrong and that the cops think of him as a terrorist at the same time, his brain just self-destructed in self-defence.
 
2014-01-29 04:39:12 PM

wee: ManateeGag: He deserves it just as much as Obama did.

More than Obama.  Snowden actually did something.


They have both done the exact same thing.  Not being George Bush.
 
2014-01-29 04:39:16 PM
"He has contributed to revealing the extreme level of surveillance by nations against other nations and of citizens," former Socialist Left Party minister Baard Vegar Solhjell

You know who else liked extreme levels of surveillance against Norway?

I just hope Obama does the right thing and returns Henry Kissinger's Peace Prize.

/that lying fat fark who left people behind in SE Asia
 
2014-01-29 04:40:26 PM
Nice meta-troll, subby. Nominating him makes perfect sense; calling that action "trolling" is, itself, trolling. And I bet it'll be highly successful.

/bonus question: is this a troll?
 
2014-01-29 04:40:32 PM

whidbey: How is this a "troll," subby? The little biatch risked his life and career to blow the whistle on the NSA.

It's totally a peace move. Do yourself a favor and look up the word "troll" sometime.


Agreed. He is an American Hero.

You know Pete Seeger was once reviled by Americans because as usual, most of the country had it head up it's collective ass.

thought their illegal war in 'Nam was for the greater good or some such shiat.

Bunch of numbnutted assholes and that is the same as ever.

This man pointed to an out of control government that was and still is stripping us of our civil rights, and even human rights and needs to be called out on it and stopped.
 
2014-01-29 04:41:20 PM
Making all nations hyper suspicious of one another is "a fundamental requirement for peace?"

Honestly, has this planet gone completely nutty bananas?
 
2014-01-29 04:42:10 PM
So if I contact the various folks who are able to nominate, and ask for likes, it should be in the bag.
 
2014-01-29 04:42:26 PM

Rent Party: wee: ManateeGag: He deserves it just as much as Obama did.

More than Obama.  Snowden actually did something.

They have both done the exact same thing.  Not being George Bush.


Snowden was better at it than Obama was.
 
2014-01-29 04:42:29 PM

OrangeFree: Making all nations hyper suspicious of one another is "a fundamental requirement for peace?"

Honestly, has this planet gone completely nutty bananas?


That depends on who you believe.
 
2014-01-29 04:44:48 PM
Does this mean he will at least get the home game?
 
2014-01-29 04:45:06 PM

tylerdurden217: I really have no issues with President Obama, I even voted for him both times. But I really did not understand why he won that award. It made no sense then and it makes even less sense now.


It totally made sense. It was the world's way of thanking the US for not electing another stupid warmonger like Bush. Yes, I know we're still stuck cleaning up his legacy in Afghanistaq. But in the last 5 years, Obama has also somehow managed to deflect the hardliners' war hardon to attack Iran and North Korea, so that is actually saying something. Romney, had he been elected, would have been pushing for both.
 
2014-01-29 04:45:17 PM

Cyberluddite: tlars699: There's no way he can accept this, right? It would be like Roman Polansky coming over to the US for an Oscar.
Right?

Well, it's not like the award ceremony is in L.A. or anything--it's in Sweden.  But anyway, just as Woody Allen never shows up to the Oscars but still gets nominated and is eligible to win, you don't have to show up at the Nobel awards ceremony to win the prize--it isn't like a "must be present to win" raffle drawing.


My guess is that if he could have gone to Sweden, he'd be in Sweden right now. He selected China, then Russia because of their lack of extradition treaties.
 
2014-01-29 04:45:41 PM
Wow, I didn't even know he was a Democrat.
 
2014-01-29 04:46:27 PM
Treasonous headline is treasonous
 
2014-01-29 04:46:46 PM
Snowden didn't reveal anything anyone with a functioning brain stem knew since at least 2006.
 
2014-01-29 04:47:21 PM

hardinparamedic: As much as I dislike snowden's personality and motives for doing what he did as less than altruistic, they're right. Exposing wide-spread abuse of the NSA's telecom monitoring network and the US Government flagrantly violation it's citizens constitutional rights is a big deal, might be worthy of the prize.

However, as people have mentioned, a nomination does not mean he'll win it, and it's not really notable.


I'm curious how this constitutes a peace prize nomination.  He did nothing to stop war.  He did nothing to foster peaceful relations between warring enemies, negotiate treaties, work on ceasefires, improve race or gender relations in a genocidal situation, anything like that.

Pulled from Wiki - "Annually awarded to those that have 'done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses'".

Snowden did this... how?  Sure Obama was a political nomination based on the idea that having just about anyone other than a conservative as POTUS means the world is a better place, but at least that kinda-sorta made sense.  It wasn't Obama's prize so much as a prize to the U.S. for saying "hey, good job electing the guy who's not likely to make a bunch of new wars".  But I'm not seeing the Snowden angle for this.
 
2014-01-29 04:47:21 PM
weknowmemes.com
 
2014-01-29 04:47:24 PM

OrangeFree: Making all nations hyper suspicious of one another is "a fundamental requirement for peace?"

Honestly, has this planet gone completely nutty bananas?



That's like saying Erin Brockovich was at fault for stirring people up by publicizing PG&E's toxic chemical releases.

Shooting the messenger is rarely the right response.
 
2014-01-29 04:47:51 PM

OrangeFree: Making all nations hyper suspicious of one another is "a fundamental requirement for peace?"


Yeah! How dare he make nations suspicious of one another by exposing the spying they were doing because they were suspicious of one another!
 
2014-01-29 04:48:19 PM
The Nobel Peace Prize is not the same thing as Time's Person of the Year.

Person of the Year can be anybody, just because they did something that everyone knows about.  Even really horrific things.  The Peace prize, by it's very deffinition, means that you have to do something that promotes peace.  It seems to me that Snowden has muddled things up and pissed people off.  Such to a point that new enemies have been made because of it.  And certainly, not more peace.
I don't see that really fitting the criteria.
 
2014-01-29 04:48:36 PM
Next up, nominating the clowns in Atlanta who kept their employees and students from leaving until travel was impossible. It only happens once in a generation -- everyone remembers.
 
2014-01-29 04:48:47 PM

brantgoose: Lookit tha funny man, Momma, his head assploded!

Come away, dear. That man's just a conservative. The cognitive dissonance of supporting law and order politics while hating and distrusting the government police state just became too much for his skull. When he tried to believe that the cops are never wrong and that the cops think of him as a terrorist at the same time, his brain just self-destructed in self-defence.


Conservative here, and I am a supporter of Snowden. Whether he wins the Nobel or not you have to admire a person who is willing to put his life, and maybe even the lives of his family and friends, to bring what he considers a violation of peoples rights into the light.
 
2014-01-29 04:48:49 PM

Cyberluddite: tlars699: There's no way he can accept this, right? It would be like Roman Polansky coming over to the US for an Oscar.
Right?

Well, it's not like the award ceremony is in L.A. or anything--it's in Sweden.  But anyway, just as Woody Allen never shows up to the Oscars but still gets nominated and is eligible to win, you don't have to show up at the Nobel awards ceremony to win the prize--it isn't like a "must be present to win" raffle drawing.


nope, Norway.   Don't put this silliness on the Swedes!  The peace prize is very much an Oslo thing.
As it were the "real" Nobel prizes are given out based on merit...not what you wrote about in your grant proposal.
 
2014-01-29 04:49:03 PM

Cyberluddite: tlars699: There's no way he can accept this, right? It would be like Roman Polansky coming over to the US for an Oscar.
Right?

Well, it's not like the award ceremony is in L.A. or anything--it's in Sweden.  But anyway, just as Woody Allen never shows up to the Oscars but still gets nominated and is eligible to win, you don't have to show up at the Nobel awards ceremony to win the prize--it isn't like a "must be present to win" raffle drawing.


Oh Snowden going to Sweden would be hilarious, since it would completely ruin Julian Assange's bullshiat stories about not wanting to go to Sweden to be interviewed about his rape allegations if Snowden could just walk in there and back out again without an issue.
 
2014-01-29 04:49:25 PM

Bith Set Me Up: Snowden didn't reveal anything anyone with a functioning brain stem knew since at least 2006.


lolwut
 
2014-01-29 04:49:58 PM

wee: ManateeGag: He deserves it just as much as Obama did.

More than Obama.  Snowden actually did something.


Giving the award to Obama was a gesture to recognize the citizen voters of the United States... to recognize our collective ability to see the fear mongering GOP asswipes for who they really were and reject their "bomb bomb Iran" preemptive-war policies.  We elected, as our president, a man named  Barack Hussein Obama just a few years after falling hook-line-and-sinker for the GOP/FoxNews lie machine regarding another man named Hussein.  I'm sure it took brass balls for Obama to even consider running for president but this award was for the everyday Americans that stood in line to vote for him.
 
2014-01-29 04:50:20 PM
I would like a yellow boat, please. With extra motors.
 
2014-01-29 04:51:23 PM

dittybopper: Obama got his for, well, no one really knows


I figured it was for keeping Sarah Palin out of the White House.  Jesus, can you imagine?
 
2014-01-29 04:51:24 PM

TheWhoppah: wee: ManateeGag: He deserves it just as much as Obama did.

More than Obama.  Snowden actually did something.

Giving the award to Obama was a gesture to recognize the citizen voters of the United States... to recognize our collective ability to see the fear mongering GOP asswipes for who they really were and reject their "bomb bomb Iran" preemptive-war policies. We elected, as our president, a man named Barack Hussein Obama just a few years after falling hook-line-and-sinker for the GOP/FoxNews lie machine regarding another man named Hussein. I'm sure it took brass balls for Obama to even consider running for president but this award was for the everyday Americans that stood in line to vote for him farking ridiculous.


FTFY
 
2014-01-29 04:52:19 PM
I can't wait until that little prick gets "Rosenburged".

\Thats what you do to traitors
 
2014-01-29 04:52:29 PM

whidbey: How is this a "troll," subby? The little biatch risked his life and career to blow the whistle on the NSA.

It's totally a peace move. Do yourself a favor and look up the word "troll" sometime.


"Troll" in the headline in conjunction with the Hero tag. Now that's how you troll. How very meta.
 
2014-01-29 04:52:56 PM

Hard Nard: brantgoose: Lookit tha funny man, Momma, his head assploded!

Come away, dear. That man's just a conservative. The cognitive dissonance of supporting law and order politics while hating and distrusting the government police state just became too much for his skull. When he tried to believe that the cops are never wrong and that the cops think of him as a terrorist at the same time, his brain just self-destructed in self-defence.

Conservative here, and I am a supporter of Snowden. Whether he wins the Nobel or not you have to admire a person who is willing to put his life, and maybe even the lives of his family and friends, to bring what he considers a violation of peoples rights into the light.


+1. In theory, anyone that supports liberty and a smaller government should applaud Snowden's actions. In practice, it seems that ordinary people across the political spectrum support Snowden, and politicians across the spectrum want him arrested and tried.
 
2014-01-29 04:55:29 PM

Marcus Aurelius: dittybopper: Obama got his for, well, no one really knows

I figured it was for keeping Sarah Palin out of the White House.  Jesus, can you imagine?


We'd be in a nuclear war with Russia by now, what with them being right across the pond from Alaska and all.
 
2014-01-29 04:55:56 PM

Marcus Aurelius: dittybopper: Obama got his for, well, no one really knows

I figured it was for keeping Sarah Palin out of the White House.  Jesus, can you imagine?


I'm sure he admires her. The woman shoots moose out of helicopters ferchrissakes.
 
2014-01-29 04:56:45 PM

Bith Set Me Up: Snowden didn't reveal anything anyone with a functioning brain stem knew since at least 2006.


So he did nothing wrong then? You're ok with him coming back to America with no charges?
 
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