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(Huffington Post)   Thought you were done paying attention to the West Virginia water crisis? Well, how 'bout some formaldehyde to top ya off?   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 55
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2014-01-29 02:33:07 PM
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2014-01-29 02:35:32 PM
That's a stiff drink.
 
2014-01-29 03:09:22 PM
Formaldehyde. We put in just a touch  of formaldehyde for flavour.

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2014-01-29 03:26:59 PM
That was a worthless article. It was close to being good, though. They talked about relative risk levels in parts-per-billion (ppb), but didn't say what, where, or how much formaldehyde was measured in the water supply.

So basically, they said "There may or may not be a problem. We don't even know whether the measured formaldehyde is natural or as a result of the recent accident."
 
2014-01-29 03:44:46 PM

AGremlin: Formaldehyde. We put in just a touch  of formaldehyde for flavour.

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Stole my thunder.
 
2014-01-29 03:57:16 PM
So, tell me, where to now
If your fight for a bearable life can be fought and lost in your backyard?

Oh, don't tell us there's poison in the well
That someone's been a bit untidy, that there's been a small spill
And all it amounts to is a tear in a salted sea
That someone's been a bit untidy, they'll have it cleaned up in a week
 
2014-01-29 04:10:20 PM
At least the bodies will be well preserved.
 
2014-01-29 04:13:44 PM
West Virginia coroner: "Poisoned? Nonsense! Your mother just overdosed on freedom!"
 
2014-01-29 04:13:48 PM
West Virginia Official Says He 'Can Guarantee' Some People Inhaling Formaldehyde After Chemical Spill

Dude, this is West Virginia.  I can guarantee that some people are inhaling whatever toxic chemicals they can find to get high.
 
2014-01-29 04:14:57 PM
If it wasn't for govt regulations affecting the free market this containment breech would have never happened.
 
2014-01-29 04:15:04 PM

AGremlin: Formaldehyde. We put in just a touch  of formaldehyde for flavour.

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"Sometimes you get sick and go to the hospital...

When you come back we give you a free salad!"

/Enjoy your salad WV
 
2014-01-29 04:21:41 PM
That just makes it so the water doesn't go bad. duh
 
2014-01-29 04:21:55 PM

AGremlin: Formaldehyde. We put in just a touch  of formaldehyde for flavour.

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Bamiah Ba beer, best beer in Vietnam.
 
2014-01-29 04:24:08 PM
I'm kind of in a messed up situation
stretched out in a warm pool of my blood
shot through with a bullet from my own gun
trying to pull my body off the slab
I'm tied up on

just don't let it ever be said
I won't come back when I'm dead
get you up in the middle of the night
and drag your body out of bed

rolling over
in the dirt I hear you pray
I won't be back too soon
keep digging my way up
from the hole you've got me in
I won't be back too soon
 
2014-01-29 04:24:41 PM
I know!  Let's drain the river and ship that water to be used in fracking!  Then everyone will just have to drink their own pee, forever.
 
2014-01-29 04:28:53 PM

Diogenes: So, tell me, where to now
If your fight for a bearable life can be fought and lost in your backyard?

Oh, don't tell us there's poison in the well
That someone's been a bit untidy, that there's been a small spill
And all it amounts to is a tear in a salted sea
That someone's been a bit untidy, they'll have it cleaned up in a week


When I was a child my family would travel
Down to Western Kentucky where my parents were born
And there's a backwards old town that's often remembered
So many times that my memories are worn.

Chorus:
And daddy won't you take me back to Muhlenberg County
Down by the Green River where Paradise lay
Well, I'm sorry my son, but you're too late in asking
Mister Peabody's coal train has hauled it away

Well, sometimes we'd travel right down the Green River
To the abandoned old prison down by Airdrie Hill
Where the air smelled like snakes and we'd shoot with our pistols
But empty pop bottles was all we would kill.

Repeat Chorus:

Then the coal company came with the world's largest shovel
And they tortured the timber and stripped all the land
Well, they dug for their coal till the land was forsaken
Then they wrote it all down as the progress of man.

Repeat Chorus:

When I die let my ashes float down the Green River
Let my soul roll on up to the Rochester dam
I'll be halfway to Heaven with Paradise waitin'
Just five miles away from wherever I am.

Repeat Chorus:
 
2014-01-29 04:28:56 PM
I'm certain there will be an unfortunately high rate of babies born with anomalies in the near future.
 
2014-01-29 04:29:57 PM
Is this like a FlimFlam ZimZam thread where we drink?  'Cause I don't wanna drink formaldehyde.
 
2014-01-29 04:30:03 PM

Diogenes: So, tell me, where to now
If your fight for a bearable life can be fought and lost in your backyard?

Oh, don't tell us there's poison in the well
That someone's been a bit untidy, that there's been a small spill
And all it amounts to is a tear in a salted sea
That someone's been a bit untidy, they'll have it cleaned up in a week


but the week is over and now it's grown into years
since I was told I should be calm, there's nothing to fear here
but I drank that water for years, my wife and my children
 
2014-01-29 04:31:06 PM
And I've watched the flat cars take away our timber
I've watched the coal cars steal our rock
And now that we've got nothing left to take we're told
that the wheels will stop turning,
the whistles will stop blowing,
these foolish dreams must stop
 
2014-01-29 04:34:10 PM
What's the problem?
 
2014-01-29 04:35:10 PM
What they need is a few less regulations on business and let the free market sort it out.
 
2014-01-29 04:38:00 PM

Magorn: Diogenes: So, tell me, where to now
If your fight for a bearable life can be fought and lost in your backyard?

Oh, don't tell us there's poison in the well
That someone's been a bit untidy, that there's been a small spill
And all it amounts to is a tear in a salted sea
That someone's been a bit untidy, they'll have it cleaned up in a week

When I was a child my family would travel
Down to Western Kentucky where my parents were born
And there's a backwards old town that's often remembered
So many times that my memories are worn.

Chorus:
And daddy won't you take me back to Muhlenberg County
Down by the Green River where Paradise lay
Well, I'm sorry my son, but you're too late in asking
Mister Peabody's coal train has hauled it away

Well, sometimes we'd travel right down the Green River
To the abandoned old prison down by Airdrie Hill
Where the air smelled like snakes and we'd shoot with our pistols
But empty pop bottles was all we would kill.

Repeat Chorus:

Then the coal company came with the world's largest shovel
And they tortured the timber and stripped all the land
Well, they dug for their coal till the land was forsaken
Then they wrote it all down as the progress of man.

Repeat Chorus:

When I die let my ashes float down the Green River
Let my soul roll on up to the Rochester dam
I'll be halfway to Heaven with Paradise waitin'
Just five miles away from wherever I am.

Repeat Chorus:


Grew up listening to that song on road trips, and it came to mind when reading this, yeah.
 
2014-01-29 04:45:13 PM
I've been assured multiple times by a conservative coworker that formaldehyde is not that bad for you, because it is naturally present in apples.

This was in response to me getting rained on by the steam plume of a locate MDF(medium density fiberboard) plant while riding my bike to work.  They used to use glues that contained formaldehyde, but have since phased them out.

Also, the steam plume is from them drying the wood fiber they use, and is water plus minute amounts of sawdust. Still not fun to be rained on by a factory.
 
2014-01-29 04:49:34 PM
Draglines at my heart
They're tearing us apart
And the mountainside where we were born
Must I weep and mourn for the land
That took ten million years to form
Now all my eyes can see are just the bleeding scars
Across the mountainside, across the mountainside...


/obscure
 
2014-01-29 04:50:31 PM

meat0918: I've been assured multiple times by a conservative coworker that formaldehyde is not that bad for you, because it is naturally present in apples.


I thought that was cyanide?
 
2014-01-29 04:51:56 PM
I'm guessing that it takes a shiatload of formaldehyde to be toxic, since your liver produces it daily.

Or perhaps there's a hormesis effect going on.
 
2014-01-29 04:53:54 PM
Welcome to my nightmare.
/WV who has nothing
//except chemical poopstorm for water
 
2014-01-29 05:01:38 PM

wildcardjack: I'm guessing that it takes a shiatload of formaldehyde to be toxic, since your liver produces it daily.


Your body produces acids as well, but if they're not where they should be it could do you a lot of damage. Or in Fark terms, your body produces shiat but that doesn't mean I want to eat it.
 
2014-01-29 05:02:13 PM
People are exposed to formaldehyde on a daily basis as it is, just not ingesting it. Many personal care items like shampoo, conditioner, body wash, lotion, make-up, baby wipes, etc are preserved with chemicals that release formaldehyde. They are being used more and more as people try to avoid parabens. It is also the most common finish on fabric items to keep them wrinkle free until you wash them. Formaldehyde on clothing usually dissipates as the clothing hangs on the racks in the stores but anything wrapped in plastic keeps it inside the bag.

Unfortunately, I am allergic to formaldehyde so I have to read labels carefully and wash almost everything first.
 
2014-01-29 05:20:26 PM
It was back before the war when the company came
These hills grew wild and free
Me and baby we'd hide in the hollers low
Away from the cruel sun's heat

But then they knocked down the timber and burned off the brush
To get to the riches below
And when they pulled out they left a cold black ground
And one pine standing alone
 
2014-01-29 05:29:20 PM

meat0918: I've been assured multiple times by a conservative coworker that formaldehyde is not that bad for you, because it is naturally present in apples.

This was in response to me getting rained on by the steam plume of a locate MDF(medium density fiberboard) plant while riding my bike to work.  They used to use glues that contained formaldehyde, but have since phased them out.

Also, the steam plume is from them drying the wood fiber they use, and is water plus minute amounts of sawdust. Still not fun to be rained on by a factory.


It wasn't all that bad when I was growing up next to a Fritos factory, though it did often make me hungry.
 
2014-01-29 05:29:32 PM

The Why Not Guy: wildcardjack: I'm guessing that it takes a shiatload of formaldehyde to be toxic, since your liver produces it daily.

Your body produces acids as well, but if they're not where they should be it could do you a lot of damage. Or in Fark terms, your body produces shiat but that doesn't mean I want to eat it.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to inhale stomach acid.
 
2014-01-29 05:30:40 PM

Fubini: That was a worthless article. It was close to being good, though. They talked about relative risk levels in parts-per-billion (ppb), but didn't say what, where, or how much formaldehyde was measured in the water supply.

So basically, they said "There may or may not be a problem. We don't even know whether the measured formaldehyde is natural or as a result of the recent accident."


Part of that may be because the company that runs the water supply is a private company owned by fossil fuel interests.
 
2014-01-29 05:44:17 PM

wildcardjack: I'm guessing that it takes a shiatload of formaldehyde to be toxic, since your liver produces it daily.

Or perhaps there's a hormesis effect going on.


Um, are you drinking wood alcohol every day? That's the only thing I know of that your liver breaks down into formaldehyde. It then becomes formic acid that destroys your optic nerve.
 
2014-01-29 06:02:55 PM

Arachnophobe: meat0918: I've been assured multiple times by a conservative coworker that formaldehyde is not that bad for you, because it is naturally present in apples.

I thought that was cyanide?


It's both.

I tried tracking down one source's claim of 22ppm, and they cite the World Health Organization from here, but all I can find is the following statement "Available data suggest that the highest concentrations of formaldehyde naturally occurring in foods (i.e., up to 60 mg/kg) are in some fruits (Möhler & Denbsky, 1970; Tsuchiya et al., 1975) ", and I can't access those citations, but nothing specific to apples.

 
2014-01-29 06:10:26 PM
"There's lot of possibilities there," he said, including the chance that formaldehyde showing up in tests isn't a result of the chemical spill.

Well, clearly.  There is lot of possibilities.  Lot.
 
2014-01-29 06:21:47 PM
Newest awesomeness: water company said they'd grant us a 1000 gallon credit, but wouldn't rule out a future rate increase. Bills come out and lo and behold, no credits attached. Water company then says they have to ask the psc if they're even allowed to issue us a credit. So they've lost no revenues, AND they're going to ask for a rate increase to offset those nonexistent losses!

I love freedom!!
 
2014-01-29 06:24:19 PM
In other news high school huffers are descending upon West Virginia by the tens of thousands.
 
2014-01-29 07:18:15 PM
I was in Charleston yesterday and today. I actually forgot and drank the water. I even used it to make my coffee in my hotel room. Oh NO!
 
2014-01-29 08:15:02 PM

JoieD'Zen: I'm certain there will be an unfortunately high rate of babies born with anomalies in the near future.


No one? (Looks around...) Sigh...
Ok, I'll do it.
It's West Virginia, How will they be able to tell?
 
2014-01-29 08:31:08 PM
Screw it.  I say Freedom Industries just bought them a state.  Bill 'em to relocate everyone out of WV, and then we deport the board and any other executive to the new country of West Virginia.
 
2014-01-29 09:02:51 PM

JakeStone: Screw it.  I say Freedom Industries just bought them a state.  Bill 'em to relocate everyone out of WV, and then we deport the board and any other executive to the new country of West Virginia.


That would in no way encourage other companies to pollute more in order to acquire massive amounts of property.

They'd clean it up once they own it. They are dirtying land and water that ISNT theirs, after all.
 
2014-01-29 09:21:02 PM

MarkEC: I was in Charleston yesterday and today. I actually forgot and drank the water. I even used it to make my coffee in my hotel room. Oh NO!


Your hotel probably has water filtration, so, trolltastic silliness notwithstanding, you're fine.
 
2014-01-29 09:23:11 PM

vicioushobbit: JakeStone: Screw it.  I say Freedom Industries just bought them a state.  Bill 'em to relocate everyone out of WV, and then we deport the board and any other executive to the new country of West Virginia.

That would in no way encourage other companies to pollute more in order to acquire massive amounts of property.

They'd clean it up once they own it. They are dirtying land and water that ISNT theirs, after all.


Pffft. After they clean up, we invade.
 
2014-01-29 09:39:50 PM

JakeStone: vicioushobbit: JakeStone: Screw it.  I say Freedom Industries just bought them a state.  Bill 'em to relocate everyone out of WV, and then we deport the board and any other executive to the new country of West Virginia.

That would in no way encourage other companies to pollute more in order to acquire massive amounts of property.

They'd clean it up once they own it. They are dirtying land and water that ISNT theirs, after all.

Pffft. After they clean up, we invade.


That's a good idea.  They probably wouldn't have enough money left over after that expensive mess to be able to hire on enough mercenaries to repel the US armed forces.

I like the way you think.
 
2014-01-29 09:55:48 PM

iaazathot: Part of that may be because the company that runs the water supply is a private company owned by fossil fuel interests.


So? A million people have that water delivered to their houses through a convenient system of pipes. Anybody can grab a sample and test it.
 
2014-01-29 10:22:06 PM
testing conducted at  downtown Charleston restaurant

the chemical that tainted the water supply only produces the carcinogen at extremely high temperatures


just playing devil's advocate here but don't they use super hot water for dishes in restaurants, much hotter than bathroom showers?
 
2014-01-29 11:47:52 PM
With all this crap, kids in West Virginia are going to start being born retarded with one eye lower than the other and mismatched ears. Or are we too late on that already.
 
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2014-01-29 11:55:04 PM

Skirl Hutsenreiter: wildcardjack: I'm guessing that it takes a shiatload of formaldehyde to be toxic, since your liver produces it daily.

Or perhaps there's a hormesis effect going on.

Um, are you drinking wood alcohol every day? That's the only thing I know of that your liver breaks down into formaldehyde. It then becomes formic acid that destroys your optic nerve.


Aspartame breaks down into methanol.

Glycine synthesis also generates formaldehyde.
 
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