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(Slate)   The comma is disappearing from English which is fine because it's pointless silly and dumb but while nobody really needs to use it anymore that doesn't mean grammar isn't like important   (slate.com) divider line 179
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2014-01-29 03:25:53 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: I hear this is the thread I'm supposed to bring the strippers Hitler and JFK.


Why not we'll party like it's 1939
 
2014-01-29 03:26:23 PM
No amount of commas could fix that headline, subby
/has butchered the language with more than my share of run-on sentences too
 
2014-01-29 03:29:28 PM

busy chillin': I guess I don't care what you do, but no way in hell am I setting up a brochure or whatever with two spaces after periods.


a font with proper kerning should handle that.
 
2014-01-29 03:30:07 PM
There are no grammatical markings in the language yet we all seem to understand what's being said with remarkable reliability.
 
2014-01-29 03:30:28 PM
www.grammarblog.co.uk
 
2014-01-29 03:31:22 PM
scottjallen.com
 
2014-01-29 03:32:15 PM
funnypics.mdvhosting.com
 
2014-01-29 03:32:40 PM

red5ish: cman: Why cant we write English like we say it?

You may write English "like we say it" but, allow me to point out that you "say" English like an illiterate, brain-damaged drug addict.

Why must we be so fanciful with our writing style?

Who is this "we" you speak of? Your use of "we" suggests you are a part of the group that writes using proper English; there is no evidence of that.

Why cant we update the spelling standards to have English spelled phonetically again? No one pronounces the "gh" anymore, why still have it?

"We" cannot even get the driving public to use turn signals; what makes you think "we" could change English spelling? Languages evolve slowly. Rather than changing the English language as it is understood by hundreds of millions of people, maybe you should consider learning how to spell. You live in the age of computers with spell checker programs; "we" have made it easy for you. Having problems with homonyms and homophones? Contractions got you down? There is a little book, The Elements of Style, by Strunk and White; it is available in PDF online. You could look it up.


That was unnecessarily harsh.

And no, I do not have an issue with misspelling words.

I think that it is unnecessary to keep this spelling based upon what a London English variant sounded like 500 years ago
 
2014-01-29 03:33:07 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-29 03:33:40 PM
i c ur stil usin apostrophes ther old timer
 
2014-01-29 03:33:46 PM
media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com
 
2014-01-29 03:34:33 PM
wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2014-01-29 03:35:43 PM

Slartibartfaster: busy chillin': I guess I don't care what you do, but no way in hell am I setting up a brochure or whatever with two spaces after periods.

a font with proper kerning should handle that.


If there are two spaces after a period, it is going to look like sh*t no matter what the font or the kerning.

Look at you droppin' terms all cool like.
 
2014-01-29 03:38:15 PM

Schmerd1948: James Joyce used eccentric punctuation. When you become as facile a writer as he, you may do likewise.


Good luck with that.
 
2014-01-29 03:41:15 PM

cman: That was unnecessarily harsh.


I apologize.
 
2014-01-29 03:44:43 PM

cman: Why cant we write English like we say it?


What are those things at the end of your sentences
 
2014-01-29 03:45:02 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-29 03:45:32 PM

uncleacid: The comma is a chameleon.


itcomesandgoes
 
2014-01-29 03:48:11 PM
and furthermore comma
 
2014-01-29 03:50:29 PM
s15.postimg.org
Got yours right here!
 
2014-01-29 03:52:44 PM
In a land of no commas, meow said the dog is king.
 
2014-01-29 03:52:53 PM

czetie: Eats shoots and leaves.


Right there - proof we not only need the regular comma, but also the Oxford comma.

/waits for onslaught
//screw that. runs and hides
///slashie barrier!
 
2014-01-29 03:55:23 PM
Who gives a f*ck about an Oxford comma?

o/
 
2014-01-29 03:59:31 PM

busy chillin': Who gives a f*ck about an Oxford comma?


JFK and Stalin.
 
2014-01-29 03:59:54 PM

Paris1127: [www.grammarblog.co.uk image 640x960]


Based on the use of all caps for "ONLY", it appears that those classes of people are not welcome anywhere else in the establishment BUT for the toilet, and must head there forthwith.

There is no reasonable argument against the Oxford comma.  People who deride the Oxford comma are just plain fools.
 
2014-01-29 04:20:22 PM

cman: Why cant we write English like we say it?

Why must we be so fanciful with our writing style?

Why cant we update the spelling standards to have English spelled phonetically again? No one pronounces the "gh" anymore, why still have it?


Something something Jack, an Uncle and a horse
 
2014-01-29 04:20:59 PM

Slartibartfaster: czetie: Eats shoots and leaves.

Eats roots and leaves (lookup kiwi slang for "root" for the lulz)

[img.fark.net image 850x565]


Eats, roots, shoots, and leaves
 
2014-01-29 04:22:22 PM
The full Grammar Nazi kit

Link
 
2014-01-29 04:29:50 PM
Grammar isn't very important period. Anymore, people just do what they want with it, and practically any attempt to point out rules gets you branded as old fashioned.

It's about as anachronistic as working crossword puzzles.
 
2014-01-29 04:39:49 PM

mjjt: Slartibartfaster: czetie: Eats shoots and leaves.

Eats roots and leaves (lookup kiwi slang for "root" for the lulz)

[img.fark.net image 850x565]

Eats, roots, shoots, and leaves


Mairzy doats? Anyone?
 
2014-01-29 04:41:01 PM

whidbey: Grammar isn't very important period. Anymore, people just do what they want with it, and practically any attempt to point out rules gets you branded as old fashioned.

It's about as anachronistic as working crossword puzzles.


Can't tell if serious.
 
2014-01-29 04:46:15 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-29 04:51:30 PM
static.someecards.com
 
2014-01-29 04:53:59 PM

MelGoesOnTour: whidbey: Grammar isn't very important period. Anymore, people just do what they want with it, and practically any attempt to point out rules gets you branded as old fashioned.

It's about as anachronistic as working crossword puzzles.

Can't tell if serious.


It's completely serious. Everyone's a farking expert now, and the English language is pretty much following what you see on TV and in sports. It's going to shiat.
 
2014-01-29 05:04:01 PM

whidbey: MelGoesOnTour: whidbey: Grammar isn't very important period. Anymore, people just do what they want with it, and practically any attempt to point out rules gets you branded as old fashioned.

It's about as anachronistic as working crossword puzzles.

Can't tell if serious.

It's completely serious. Everyone's a farking expert now, and the English language is pretty much following what you see on TV and in sports. It's going to shiat.


"Anymore"?  You used "anymore" like that without trying to be funny?  Argh.

By the way, what's with these people helping their uncle kill a defenseless horse?
 
2014-01-29 05:04:59 PM

Arkanaut: In a land of no commas, meow said the dog is king. of everyone of us the person ruler and amongst the people within whom pertain to the persuasion that is female.


FTFY, with an attempt that was known as a tribute
 
2014-01-29 05:15:47 PM
Judging from the the average internet comment it's placement has simply shifted up slightly.
 
2014-01-29 05:24:58 PM
I can't think of any other punctuation that lets me so easily distinguish between my dog Minardi and my dog, MInardi.
 
2014-01-29 05:27:27 PM

whidbey: Grammar isn't very important period. Anymore, people just do what they want with it, and practically any attempt to point out rules gets you branded as old fashioned.


I suppose it all comes down to what you do for a living. Based on your comment, I am guessing that you are a butcher.
 
2014-01-29 05:29:41 PM
I wonder how many people advocating the abandonment of commas have ever used the word "snowflake" or an equally dismissive word about modern children.
 
2014-01-29 05:52:05 PM

red5ish: whidbey: Grammar isn't very important period. Anymore, people just do what they want with it, and practically any attempt to point out rules gets you branded as old fashioned.

I suppose it all comes down to what you do for a living. Based on your comment, I am guessing that you are a butcher.


I'm a writer. Pretty sure that's how I know what I'm talking about.
 
2014-01-29 06:05:14 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Arkanaut: In a land of no commas, meow said the dog is king. of everyone of us the person ruler and amongst the people within whom pertain to the persuasion that is female.

FTFY, with an attempt that was known as a tribute


This actually made me laugh out loud, like my fat roommate
 
2014-01-29 06:06:10 PM
Because what grammar thread would be complete without it:

A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling 
   by Mark Twain
For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all. Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli. Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.
 
2014-01-29 06:12:21 PM

rzrwiresunrise: Because what grammar thread would be complete without it:

A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling


See page 1 of thread.
 
2014-01-29 06:12:35 PM

TDBoedy: [www.freewebs.com image 608x541]


WTF is an inverted comma? You mean single quote mark or apostrophe?
 
2014-01-29 06:15:24 PM

czetie: Eats shoots and leaves.


Done in one.
 
2014-01-29 06:15:29 PM

cman: Why cant we write English like we say it?

Hukt awn fonix wurkt fer mi.

Eye wint tu publick skewl

 
2014-01-29 06:16:13 PM

Dragonflew: rzrwiresunrise: Because what grammar thread would be complete without it:

A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling

See page 1 of thread.


DAMN!
 
2014-01-29 06:16:47 PM

Dragonflew: rzrwiresunrise: Because what grammar thread would be complete without it:

A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling

See page 1 of thread.


Well, this is America, after all, and you know what reading's for...
 
2014-01-29 06:20:45 PM
The English language has many, many faults. I suffer daily with many of them and make offerings to the spell check Gods often, but I continue to try and get it right because words mean things.

I compare it in a way to science. There is a process to good scientific practices. Done correctly, the results stand alone and speak for themselves. Is it a pain in the arse? yes. Done poorly, well you have debacles like  http://www.cbsnews.com/news/congress-may-probe-leaked-global-warming- e -mails/

Because we are an inherently lazy species, I believe the likes of Twitter, texting  et. al.  dumb down our language for the sake of time / expediency to the point I predict, we will be communicating will grunts and squeals in 50 years.

I stand with the comma, for good.
 
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