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(NYPost)   After the GOP and Tea Party responses to the president's state-of-the-union address came Rep. Michael Grimm's own response, in the form of a threat to throw a reporter off a balcony for asking uncomfortable questions   (nypost.com ) divider line
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2014-01-29 01:11:04 PM  
Updated less than an hour ago:  "Uh, let me try again at that apology..."

Too late, dude, the press is going to break you, like a boy.
 
2014-01-29 01:20:42 PM  

Jormungandr: mrshowrules: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: mrshowrules: If I was the employer of this reporter, I would insist that he file a police complaint and I would have my legal department all over it.

1st Amendment violation?

Criminal threat of violence.

/not a lawyer

According to the law up here, it's called assault.

265. (1) A person commits an assault when
(a) without the consent of another person, he applies force intentionally to that other person, directly or indirectly;
(b) he attempts or threatens, by an act or a gesture, to apply force to another person, if he has, or causes that other person to believe on reasonable grounds that he has, present ability to effect his purpose

 The camera guy didn't really do his job there ... It looks like Grimm grabbed the reporter, but it is hard to tell. Up here the punishment for that is up to five years. There's also uttering threats which is good for another five, you could also make an argument for criminal harassment which is up to ten. Point is he ought to be arrested and put on trial, given the whole thing was recorded.

/Also not a lawyer


He should have been brought in for questioning even if they didn't capture in on video based on statements of the reporter and camera man.
 
2014-01-29 01:20:53 PM  

Earguy: I read what Diogenes said about him, I wonder if he has any other recollection about having any "vibes".


Not really.  That was before I knew much about him other than his legislative record.  And I didn't want to get into anything too deep while he was on vacation.  Our whole exchange took place at the Denny's checkout.  We just happened to be paying our bill at the same time.  I said, "Excuse me, but aren't you a member of Congress?"  He said, "Yes.  And wow!  You must be a real political junkie."  To which I said, "Oh, you have no idea, Representative."

We chatted briefly about the need for bipartisanship.  I told him I'd seen him interviewed for comments on MSNBC a few times and appreciated his perspective.  Like I said earlier, this was during the whole Ground Zero Mosque mess, and I was surprised when he agreed with me that Peter King needed to STFU, and that it was an unproductive issue.

He was very comfortable in his own skin.  A commanding presence.  But not creepily so.  He seemed genuine.  But when he looked at me there was no question who was in control of the situation.  Very intense and focused.  Not afraid to enter my physical comfort zone.

It's hard to say now in retrospect, given how much more I know about him as a person now.  But I feel safe in saying he's not someone I'd want to cross personally.
 
2014-01-29 01:21:29 PM  

Earguy: Updated less than an hour ago:  "Uh, let me try again at that apology..."

Too late, dude, the press is going to break you, like a boy.



Damn, that Michael Scotto just INSISTS on being the bigger man!  I'm really respecting the little guy.  GO MICHAEL SCOTTO GO.

Scotto said he accepted the apology and believes it was sincere, NY1 reported.

Earlier Wednesday, Scotto said he was "taken aback" by the vitriol thrown his way by the pol.
"I'm used to people giving me pushback for questions, but I was not used to something like that," Scotto said Wednesday on "Morning Joe" about the politician's on-air rant.


Michael Grimm must be behind bars today.
 
2014-01-29 01:22:56 PM  
Give that reporter a pay raise for actually reporting!
 
2014-01-29 01:28:02 PM  

Earguy: Updated less than an hour ago:  "Uh, let me try again at that apology..."

Too late, dude, the press is going to break you, like a boy.


Refused to take questions. It's pretty certain what the next question he's asked will be
 
2014-01-29 01:34:12 PM  

pueblonative: Carl Paladino thinks this guy's an amateur.  Pros don't tell their victims how they'll get it, they just let them know they'll get it.


Pros just let their henchmen give it to them, in a dark alley, without warning.
 
2014-01-29 01:41:12 PM  

Jormungandr: After all the story of him assaulting the reporter is more immediately newsworthy than the campaign finance fraud.


Of course, every article about the assault includes a sentence like "Grimm, who is being investigated for campaign finance fraud, got upset when the reporter attempted to get his comments on the campaign finance fraud investigation."

So maybe that wasn't such a good idea.
 
2014-01-29 02:53:18 PM  

poot_rootbeer: Jormungandr: After all the story of him assaulting the reporter is more immediately newsworthy than the campaign finance fraud.

Of course, every article about the assault includes a sentence like "Grimm, who is being investigated for campaign finance fraud, got upset when the reporter attempted to get his comments on the campaign finance fraud investigation."

So maybe that wasn't such a good idea.


What a cunning plan this Grimm fellow had! He clearly thought it all the way through.
 
2014-01-29 02:59:04 PM  
Michael "Throw You Over The Balcony and Break You Like a Boy" Grimm?

Hmm, I've seen his campaign posters and there's plenty of room on there.  (Lots of these guys like to omit their party affiliations.)
 
2014-01-29 03:28:15 PM  

Far Cough: Michael "Throw You Over The Balcony and Break You Like a Boy" Grimm?

Hmm, I've seen his campaign posters and there's plenty of room on there.  (Lots of these guys like to omit their party affiliations.)


If I don't know which party they represent, I don't vote.

Like local billboards that advise me to "VOTE FOR (or AGAINST) ISSUE 12". If they can't bother to tell me what I'm getting, I don't buy.
 
2014-01-29 03:49:20 PM  

poot_rootbeer: Jormungandr: After all the story of him assaulting the reporter is more immediately newsworthy than the campaign finance fraud.

Of course, every article about the assault includes a sentence like "Grimm, who is being investigated for campaign finance fraud, got upset when the reporter attempted to get his comments on the campaign finance fraud investigation."

So maybe that wasn't such a good idea.


I meant it was a good thing for journalism. If some of those people see that there can be a story in asking actual questions more of them might do it. I don't think Mr. Grimm thought anything more than "I'm ANGRY!
I think asking questions for the wrong reasons is better than not asking them at all.

/eternal optimist
 
2014-01-29 05:03:08 PM  
Why wouldn't you have gotten right in his face? I would moved in just an inch away from him - with out touching him.
"Bring it mother farker. Please. Right here in front of everyone. Break me like a little boy. DO IT!"
 
2014-01-29 05:11:59 PM  

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: Why wouldn't you have gotten right in his face? I would moved in just an inch away from him - with out touching him.
"Bring it mother farker. Please. Right here in front of everyone. Break me like a little boy. DO IT!"


Apparently Grimm was already touching him -- he rammed right into his personal space, and he was already pinned against a potentially dangerously short railing by a rather hulking maniac.  You really want to come back at him with that?
 
2014-01-29 05:17:56 PM  

Far Cough: purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: Why wouldn't you have gotten right in his face? I would moved in just an inch away from him - with out touching him.
"Bring it mother farker. Please. Right here in front of everyone. Break me like a little boy. DO IT!"

Apparently Grimm was already touching him -- he rammed right into his personal space, and he was already pinned against a potentially dangerously short railing by a rather hulking maniac.  You really want to come back at him with that?


Oh yeah I would no problem. But then again I kind of tend to freak the fark out on people that threaten me no matter what size they are.

/oh I been beat up bad
//they would never want to fight me again though
 
2014-01-29 05:19:28 PM  

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: Far Cough: purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: Why wouldn't you have gotten right in his face? I would moved in just an inch away from him - with out touching him.
"Bring it mother farker. Please. Right here in front of everyone. Break me like a little boy. DO IT!"

Apparently Grimm was already touching him -- he rammed right into his personal space, and he was already pinned against a potentially dangerously short railing by a rather hulking maniac.  You really want to come back at him with that?

Oh yeah I would no problem. But then again I kind of tend to freak the fark out on people that threaten me no matter what size they are.

/oh I been beat up bad
//they would never want to fight me again though



And if he was actually touching me....  He wouldn't have any balls anymore.
 
2014-01-29 06:14:56 PM  

markfara: If I don't know which party they represent, I don't vote.


It's not that they don't know. It's they don't want to admit it.

My home town(and county) are both very liberal. Example, Obama won my town by something like 80-20 and county by something like 70-30. Come election time, the Democrats(and occasional third party) are the only ones who list their party affiliation on their campaign posters. For farks sake, last election they even left the "R" off Christie ads.
 
2014-01-29 06:27:44 PM  

grumpfuff: markfara: If I don't know which party they represent, I don't vote.

It's not that they don't know. It's they don't want to admit it.

My home town(and county) are both very liberal. Example, Obama won my town by something like 80-20 and county by something like 70-30. Come election time, the Democrats(and occasional third party) are the only ones who list their party affiliation on their campaign posters. For farks sake, last election they even left the "R" off Christie ads.


But that's what makes it more striking.  I gather that Grimm's a republican, but he and many others don't advertise it, even in the conservative parts of the city they represent. Grimm represents parts of Brooklyn and Staten Island I believe; the latter at least is heavily republican.

So I guess what we're saying is he's a bully AND a coward.
 
2014-01-29 06:37:17 PM  
Christie-Grimm 2016? I'd be afraid NOT to vote for them!
 
2014-01-29 06:43:48 PM  

LaViergeNoire: Christie-Grimm 2016? I'd be afraid NOT to vote for them!


Christie knows a bridge he can cordon off so Grimm can do his balcony throwing thing.  Teamwork.
 
2014-01-29 06:57:11 PM  

Far Cough: grumpfuff: markfara: If I don't know which party they represent, I don't vote.

It's not that they don't know. It's they don't want to admit it.

My home town(and county) are both very liberal. Example, Obama won my town by something like 80-20 and county by something like 70-30. Come election time, the Democrats(and occasional third party) are the only ones who list their party affiliation on their campaign posters. For farks sake, last election they even left the "R" off Christie ads.

But that's what makes it more striking.  I gather that Grimm's a republican, but he and many others don't advertise it, even in the conservative parts of the city they represent. Grimm represents parts of Brooklyn and Staten Island I believe; the latter at least is heavily republican.

So I guess what we're saying is he's a bully AND a coward.


I agree in general, but the idea of Staten Island being heavily Republican is a bit of a stretch. It used to be heavily Republican years ago. However, their grip has been steadily weakening, and now it's better described as moderate or maybe slightly right-of-center.
 
2014-01-29 08:14:39 PM  
None of this matters.  His own state will hail him as a hero now for standing up to the Liebral media like a man. You think he should be in jail? Well yea, he should be.  What will his actual punishment be?

Get used to saying Governor Grimm.  His future just became a light brighter.
 
2014-01-29 09:33:23 PM  

orclover: None of this matters.  His own state will hail him as a hero now for standing up to the Liebral media like a man. You think he should be in jail? Well yea, he should be.  What will his actual punishment be?

Get used to saying Governor Grimm.  His future just became a light brighter.


He's a politician in the state of New York. Somehow I doubt he'll be made governor.
 
2014-01-29 09:50:31 PM  

jayhawk88: Grimm said he was on a tight schedule and had previously told NY1 that he was only going to discuss the speech.

See, guys? He was just late getting to a ribbon cutting ceremony at 11:00 in the evening! That's all this was.


http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/34/18/all_grimmdeblasio_2011_5_ 6_ bk.html

Rep Grimm's nightlife might also be an out-of-bounds topic
 
2014-01-30 01:37:08 AM  

James!: I'll laugh when the Michael Grimm "I'll break you in half" campaign posters go up next year.


Vote Michael Grimm (R)
or I'll throw you off
this farking balcony!
 
2014-01-30 09:55:45 AM  

LectertheChef: He's a politician in the state of New York. Somehow I doubt he'll be made governor.


New York?  Really?   I swear to god I thought he was from a red state.


Ok yea he's farked.
 
2014-01-30 10:58:25 AM  

grumpfuff: Far Cough: grumpfuff: markfara: If I don't know which party they represent, I don't vote.

It's not that they don't know. It's they don't want to admit it.

My home town(and county) are both very liberal. Example, Obama won my town by something like 80-20 and county by something like 70-30. Come election time, the Democrats(and occasional third party) are the only ones who list their party affiliation on their campaign posters. For farks sake, last election they even left the "R" off Christie ads.

But that's what makes it more striking.  I gather that Grimm's a republican, but he and many others don't advertise it, even in the conservative parts of the city they represent. Grimm represents parts of Brooklyn and Staten Island I believe; the latter at least is heavily republican.

So I guess what we're saying is he's a bully AND a coward.

I agree in general, but the idea of Staten Island being heavily Republican is a bit of a stretch. It used to be heavily Republican years ago. However, their grip has been steadily weakening, and now it's better described as moderate or maybe slightly right-of-center.


Gee I dunno.  While all of NYC averaged 81% for Obama v. Romney, Staten Island had them literally tied, 49% and change each (with BO getting the lead by a tiny 104 VOTES).

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/new-york/

Not much different from Chattahoochee, Georgia or Choctaw, Alabama.  So in NY that makes it herpaderp island.
 
2014-01-30 10:59:12 AM  
/not literally
 
2014-01-30 11:17:44 AM  

orclover: Ok yea he's farked.


Have you even seen how NYC politicians behave? They're farking insane, most of them.

This morning the Daily News has a column where Anthony Weiner is giving Grimm advice on how to behave, and how if he doesn't want to have a scandal he shouldn't do anything scandalous - and nobody even blinks.
 
2014-01-30 05:36:24 PM  

Far Cough: grumpfuff: Far Cough: grumpfuff: markfara: If I don't know which party they represent, I don't vote.

It's not that they don't know. It's they don't want to admit it.

My home town(and county) are both very liberal. Example, Obama won my town by something like 80-20 and county by something like 70-30. Come election time, the Democrats(and occasional third party) are the only ones who list their party affiliation on their campaign posters. For farks sake, last election they even left the "R" off Christie ads.

But that's what makes it more striking.  I gather that Grimm's a republican, but he and many others don't advertise it, even in the conservative parts of the city they represent. Grimm represents parts of Brooklyn and Staten Island I believe; the latter at least is heavily republican.

So I guess what we're saying is he's a bully AND a coward.

I agree in general, but the idea of Staten Island being heavily Republican is a bit of a stretch. It used to be heavily Republican years ago. However, their grip has been steadily weakening, and now it's better described as moderate or maybe slightly right-of-center.

Gee I dunno.  While all of NYC averaged 81% for Obama v. Romney, Staten Island had them literally tied, 49% and change each (with BO getting the lead by a tiny 104 VOTES).

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/new-york/

Not much different from Chattahoochee, Georgia or Choctaw, Alabama.  So in NY that makes it herpaderp island.


Twenty or thirty years ago, it would have been 70-30 Romney-Obama. And how much more moderate can you get than splitting it evenly?

I'm not saying they are a liberal bastion or anything. I'm merely pointing out they are not as conservative as they used to be.
 
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