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(NYPost)   After the GOP and Tea Party responses to the president's state-of-the-union address came Rep. Michael Grimm's own response, in the form of a threat to throw a reporter off a balcony for asking uncomfortable questions   (nypost.com) divider line 130
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2014-01-29 09:38:39 AM
Asking uncomfortable questions in a very uncomfortable place.
 
2014-01-29 09:38:40 AM
His campaign finance issues stretch back further to when he got nailed for skinny dipping in the Sea of Galilee.

Last week, an Israeli who helped raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for Grimm during his 2010 campaign was arrested on immigration fraud charges.

Grimm, a first-term Republican, has not been charged with a crime, and says he complied with all campaign laws.
And two weeks ago, the New York Times reported that Grimm did not initially file the proper paperwork about a trip he took to Cyprus after visiting Israel. He amended a filing to report the Cyprus trip a day after his host on the trip, Peter Papanicolaou, was arrested in June on federal corruption charges, the Times reported.

A lawyer for Grimm said the filing had nothing to do with the arrest, and declined to discuss Grimm and Papanicolaou's relationship.
 
2014-01-29 09:40:57 AM
Wow, this guys got campaign finance problems, ties to a mobster , and an incident in a club where he threatened the husband of the women he was farking (family values party!) with a gun.

In other words, your run of the mill POS Republican.
 
2014-01-29 09:41:02 AM

starsrift: Bloody William: Where does he get off physically threatening a reporter?

I don't mean in the first amendment sense, I mean in the sense of where does he get off physically threatening anyone? He looks more like a weener than ANTHONY WEINER. My mom could break him in half like a Kit-Kat. Which is an analogy that makes way more sense than "like a boy." I don't think you can play the alpha male card when you look like you just came back from your Bar Mitzvah.

Supposedly he was a marine, then became an FBI undercover agent.
I don't think he looks weak at all, though you don't get to see much and then there's the suit tailoring. But broad shoulders, square jaw.


Huh, so he was according to the Wiki.

Which makes those threats less funny, but even more wildly irresponsible.
 
2014-01-29 09:42:10 AM

starsrift: Bloody William: Where does he get off physically threatening a reporter?

I don't mean in the first amendment sense, I mean in the sense of where does he get off physically threatening anyone? He looks more like a weener than ANTHONY WEINER. My mom could break him in half like a Kit-Kat. Which is an analogy that makes way more sense than "like a boy." I don't think you can play the alpha male card when you look like you just came back from your Bar Mitzvah.

Supposedly he was a marine, then became an FBI undercover agent.
I don't think he looks weak at all, though you don't get to see much and then there's the suit tailoring. But broad shoulders, square jaw.


Having met and spoken with him I can weigh in here.

He's not very tall.  But he's really solid.  Not that it was in my mind at the time, but I have little doubt he could break me in half.

I don't think he's your typical bully - all talk and then cower when called out.  I think he's an arrogant, highly Type A personality who puts on a good facade.  But when the facade is breached, he's an out of control animal.
 
2014-01-29 09:49:03 AM
He had literally just finished conducting an interview that was audio- and videorecorded.

Why in God's green hell did Grimm didn't consider that his threatening comments afterward could be documented and distributed to the public?
 
2014-01-29 09:49:39 AM
you know what's funny?  I think that if DC allowed conceal and carry and  stand your ground that this little guy could legitimately claim he was in fear of his life.  Just saying....
 
2014-01-29 09:49:58 AM

poot_rootbeer: He had literally just finished conducting an interview that was audio- and videorecorded.

Why in God's green hell did Grimm didn't consider that his threatening comments afterward could be documented and distributed to the public?


His anger runneth over.
 
2014-01-29 09:52:20 AM

poot_rootbeer: He had literally just finished conducting an interview that was audio- and videorecorded.

Why in God's green hell did Grimm didn't consider that his threatening comments afterward could be documented and distributed to the public?


People like him actually believe that the country at large admires this kind of crap, because everyone they associate with does.

It's called "narcissism."
 
2014-01-29 09:54:42 AM

Magorn: markfara: All Grimm did was threaten to assault and possibly kill someone who asked him something voters have a right to know about.

Why are liberals such big babies?

Grimm says, it's okay though because The reporter was being "disrespectful" by doing his job and asking him about actual news rather than letting Grimm deliver his pre-planned soundbyte on the SOTU speech


Yet when a black person shoots someone for mouthing off it's because "prison respect culture" thuggery.  In short, white guy Repub from NY, respect enforced by voilence is OK.  Anybody else, thug.
 
2014-01-29 09:58:18 AM

Diogenes: I think he's an arrogant, highly Type A personality who puts on a good facade. But when the facade is breached, he's an out of control animal.


That's the Staten Island I know and love.
 
2014-01-29 09:58:49 AM

poot_rootbeer: He had literally just finished conducting an interview that was audio- and videorecorded.

Why in God's green hell did Grimm didn't consider that his threatening comments afterward could be documented and distributed to the public?


My favorite part is when he glanced at the camera, some small functional part of his brain firing and telling him that he was farking up big here....  and he ignores it because bully is just too strong an impulse for animals like him to resist.
 
2014-01-29 10:01:21 AM

Gulper Eel: Diogenes: I think he's an arrogant, highly Type A personality who puts on a good facade. But when the facade is breached, he's an out of control animal.

That's the Staten Island I know and love.


I'm from Jersey.  Staten Islanders are pussy cats ;-)
 
2014-01-29 10:03:58 AM
From http://www.facebook.com/ConservativeNationForever

Congressman Michael Grimm (R-NY), upset that a (presumably) liberal reporter asked him about his campaign finance scandal, bravely threatened death and/or bodily harm when he f...irst said "I'll throw you off this f***ing balcony" and later "I'll break you in half. Like a boy."

This incident proceeded the State of the Union Address.

It was not immediately clear if Grimm was planning on breaking the reporter in half before or after throwing him off the Capitol Building balcony. Presumably, it would be difficult to get access to the body after murdering the reporter via gravity, so we here at Conservative Nation presume Grimm meant before he threw him off the balcony.
 
2014-01-29 10:04:59 AM
The good Congressman should be informed that if he tries to pull this kind of shiat in Florida or any other "Stand Your Ground" state, he might end up well ventilated.  "I swear, officer, I felt threatened when he threatened to throw me over the balcony."
 
2014-01-29 10:05:22 AM
too bad the reported didn't just kick him in the balls
like all members of the GOP deserve.

It's your patriotic duty, people.
 
2014-01-29 10:13:57 AM
...oh, fark me. I just remembered why his name was so familiar. HE'S MY GODDAMN CONGRESSMAN. During the shutdown I wrote his office saying I won't ever vote for him, but whether he decides to be reasonable and work to end the shutdown or not would determine whether I'd simply vote against him or work tirelessly to see he never holds office in my district again.

I am ashamed by my local ignorance and forgetfulness. Though now I want to get some balcony contractor brochures and flood his office with them...
 
2014-01-29 10:24:50 AM
So why isn't he under arrest for this stunt?
 
2014-01-29 10:29:13 AM
A former Grimm staffer told The Post that the congressman was a hothead who takes his rages out on journalists.

Well thank farking god this guy Grimm isnt in any position of power right?
 
2014-01-29 10:31:08 AM
If I was the employer of this reporter, I would insist that he file a police complaint and I would have my legal department all over it.
 
2014-01-29 10:36:00 AM
Run it every hour with a "Republican Response" chyron.
 
2014-01-29 10:36:39 AM

jayhawk88: Grimm said he was on a tight schedule and had previously told NY1 that he was only going to discuss the speech.

See, guys? He was just late getting to a ribbon cutting ceremony at 11:00 in the evening! That's all this was.



Actually, I have it on good authority that Grimm couldn't stay any longer for questions as he had to be to the gym in 26 minutes.
 
2014-01-29 10:37:46 AM

mrshowrules: If I was the employer of this reporter, I would insist that he file a police complaint and I would have my legal department all over it.


1st Amendment violation?
 
2014-01-29 10:39:17 AM
I'll laugh when the Michael Grimm "I'll break you in half" campaign posters go up next year.
 
2014-01-29 10:50:08 AM

LectertheChef: Yeah, that sounded more than a little gay. Not normal gay, oh no, not at all. Like "I'm gonna make you squeal like a pig" kind of gay. Like picking a young man up at the bar, taking him back to your place, lubing him up and buttfarking him, then tossing him out on the street naked kind of gay. A sick, twisted, self-loathing thing, where the only way he can get off is by thoroughly humiliating and dominating another man. Because his domineering wife regularly gives it to him hard and dirty with her vibrating Feeldoe Stout, while calling him Little Princess Ariel.


So, a Staten Island Fairy?
 
2014-01-29 10:56:52 AM

BitwiseShift: LectertheChef: Yeah, that sounded more than a little gay. Not normal gay, oh no, not at all. Like "I'm gonna make you squeal like a pig" kind of gay. Like picking a young man up at the bar, taking him back to your place, lubing him up and buttfarking him, then tossing him out on the street naked kind of gay. A sick, twisted, self-loathing thing, where the only way he can get off is by thoroughly humiliating and dominating another man. Because his domineering wife regularly gives it to him hard and dirty with her vibrating Feeldoe Stout, while calling him Little Princess Ariel.

So, a Staten Island Fairy?


Hey-ooooooooooo!
 
2014-01-29 10:59:19 AM
So surely the NYPD will charge him with assault.  Oh wait, he's rich.  Never mind.
 
2014-01-29 11:01:11 AM

lilbjorn: So surely the NYPD will charge him with assault.  Oh wait, he's rich.  Never mind.


This also happened in DC.
 
2014-01-29 11:06:01 AM

James!: lilbjorn: So surely the NYPD will charge him with assault.  Oh wait, he's rich.  Never mind.

This also happened in DC.


And the Capitol Police aren't exactly going to rush to arrest a Congressman.
 
2014-01-29 11:07:57 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: mrshowrules: If I was the employer of this reporter, I would insist that he file a police complaint and I would have my legal department all over it.

1st Amendment violation?


Criminal threat of violence.

/not a lawyer
 
2014-01-29 11:12:05 AM
Elements of a threat based on the California Penal Code (not sure how different it would be in DC):

1. A person who willfully threatens to commit a crime which will result in death or great bodily injury to another person.
2. The person who made the threat did so with the specific intent that the statement, made verbally, in writing, or by means of an electronic communication device, is to be taken as a threat.
3. The threatening statement, on its face and under the circumstances in which it was made, was so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate, and specific as to convey to the person threatened a gravity of purpose and an immediate prospect of execution of the threat.
4. The threatening statement caused the other person reasonably to be in sustained fear for his or her own safety or his or her immediate family's safety.
 
2014-01-29 11:12:28 AM

neversubmit: FTFA: "Let me be clear to you, you ever do that to me again, I'll throw you off this f-king balcony," Grimm said. "You're not man enough. I'll break you in half. Like a boy."

"I was annoyed. I was doing them a favor," Grimm told The Post. "The reporter took a cheap shot at the end and I verbally took him to task. I was angry and I had every right to be."

A former Grimm staffer told The Post that the congressman was a hothead who takes his rages out on journalists.

"Grimm has anger issues," the staffer said. "This is not the first time he's tried to intimidate a reporter."

Mouthy tough guys always cry like a biatch when they feel the pain.


It's been a long time coming
And the table's turned around
'Cause one of us is going
One of us is going down
 
2014-01-29 11:13:50 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: mrshowrules: If I was the employer of this reporter, I would insist that he file a police complaint and I would have my legal department all over it.

1st Amendment violation?


Simple Battery, for goodness sakes.  He rushed the guy and made contact with him, while uttering physical threats.  The unwanted touching is clearly a Battery, and if the totality of the circumstances would put a reasonable person in fear of imminent harm, you've got Assault right there, too.
 
2014-01-29 11:18:00 AM

mrshowrules: Elements of a threat based on the California Penal Code (not sure how different it would be in DC):

1. A person who willfully threatens to commit a crime which will result in death or great bodily injury to another person.
2. The person who made the threat did so with the specific intent that the statement, made verbally, in writing, or by means of an electronic communication device, is to be taken as a threat.
3. The threatening statement, on its face and under the circumstances in which it was made, was so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate, and specific as to convey to the person threatened a gravity of purpose and an immediate prospect of execution of the threat.
4. The threatening statement caused the other person reasonably to be in sustained fear for his or her own safety or his or her immediate family's safety.


As opposed to the Florida Penal Code:

1)  Walking while black
2)  Purchasing Skittles and iced tea
 
2014-01-29 11:18:30 AM

Job Creator: Wow, this guys got campaign finance problems, ties to a mobster , and an incident in a club where he threatened the husband of the women he was farking (family values party!) with a gun.


Oh right, this guy.

Around 2:30  A.M., there was a commotion on the dance floor. According to Williams, somebody was shouting, "He's got a gun!" Following a crowd into the club's garage, Williams discovered that Grimm and the husband had returned, and Grimm was holding a weapon. Grimm was "carrying on like a madman," Williams said. "He's screaming, 'I'm gonna farkin' kill him.' So I said to him, 'Who are you?' He put the gun back in his waist and said, 'I'm a farking F.B.I. agent, ain't nobody gonna threaten me.' "
Grimm left the club, but at 4  A.M., just before the club closed, he returned again, according to Williams, this time with another F.B.I. agent and a group of N.Y.P.D. officers. Grimm had told the police that he had been assaulted by the estranged husband and his friends. Williams said that Grimm took command of the scene, and refused to let the remaining patrons and employees leave. "Everybody get up against the farking wall," Williams recalled him saying. "The F.B.I. is in control." Then Grimm, who apparently wanted to find the man with whom he'd had the original altercation, said something that Williams said he'll never forget: "All the white people get out of here."
 
2014-01-29 11:20:00 AM

riverwalk barfly: I've always felt that freedom of the press is essential to a democracy.  More than freedom of religion, more  than the right to bear arms. etc.  This has become more and more infringed on by both parties.  This is how you keep the masses ignorant. This man should resign.


As a journalist I say thank you sir, you are absolutely correct. My favorite quote from Thomas J on freedom of the press:

"The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787.
 
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2014-01-29 11:30:01 AM

James!: I'll laugh when the Michael Grimm "I'll break you in half" campaign posters go up next year.


They need to use that picture that looks like he just got a UFIA look...

nyopoliticker.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-29 11:34:47 AM
He has an impressive CV. My first instinct is to ask him to step down. But then again, I think I like this type of guy out where we can see him.
 
2014-01-29 11:36:22 AM

Deucednuisance: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: mrshowrules: If I was the employer of this reporter, I would insist that he file a police complaint and I would have my legal department all over it.

1st Amendment violation?

Simple Battery, for goodness sakes.  He rushed the guy and made contact with him, while uttering physical threats.  The unwanted touching is clearly a Battery, and if the totality of the circumstances would put a reasonable person in fear of imminent harm, you've got Assault right there, too.


He should be in jail right now!  That poor little reporter showed far more bravery than the "marine" did -- responding reasonably and actually pursuing his professional agenda even while being pushed into and threatened with being PUSHED OVER THE BALCONY HE WAS STANDING AGAINST by a hulking suited thug.

This should not stand - Michael Grimm is a dangerous criminal who should be stripped of his government job, at the very least.

On the bright side, YAY, there's still something resembling real journalism left in the world!  I had no respect for the terminally boring "NY1" channel before this, but now I'm all about them.
 
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2014-01-29 11:37:17 AM
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2014-01-29 11:41:49 AM
And the journalist should press charges and refuse to ever interview the douche again. I can't imagine many other journalists would want to interview him, either.
 
2014-01-29 12:08:02 PM
I bet the next time that reporter interviews Grimm he won't forget to bring his tooth bag.
 
2014-01-29 12:09:22 PM

LectertheChef: Yeah, that sounded more than a little gay. Not normal gay, oh no, not at all. Like "I'm gonna make you squeal like a pig" kind of gay. Like picking a young man up at the bar, taking him back to your place, lubing him up and buttfarking him, then tossing him out on the street naked kind of gay. A sick, twisted, self-loathing thing, where the only way he can get off is by thoroughly humiliating and dominating another man. Because his domineering wife regularly gives it to him hard and dirty with her vibrating Feeldoe Stout, while calling him Little Princess Ariel.


Are you speaking from experience?
 
2014-01-29 12:10:15 PM

Job Creator: Wow, this guys got campaign finance problems, ties to a mobster , and an incident in a club where he threatened the husband of the women he was farking (family values party!) with a gun.

In other words, your run of the mill POS Republican.


The Mob connections and the status as a former FBI agent has my Whitey Bulger-sense tingling, this guy might not want too many rocks overturned.  As the Host of NPR's Morning Edition Noted this morning "I had never even heard of Rep. Grimm and his campaign finance troubles...until last night"
 
2014-01-29 12:53:32 PM

Magorn: Job Creator: Wow, this guys got campaign finance problems, ties to a mobster , and an incident in a club where he threatened the husband of the women he was farking (family values party!) with a gun.

In other words, your run of the mill POS Republican.

The Mob connections and the status as a former FBI agent has my Whitey Bulger-sense tingling, this guy might not want too many rocks overturned.  As the Host of NPR's Morning Edition Noted this morning "I had never even heard of Rep. Grimm and his campaign finance troubles...until last night"


Well he's from Staten Island so about 9/10 of the people there have ties to mobsters.  The other stuff is pretty disturbing.
 
2014-01-29 01:00:54 PM

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2014-01-29 01:05:55 PM

mrshowrules: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: mrshowrules: If I was the employer of this reporter, I would insist that he file a police complaint and I would have my legal department all over it.

1st Amendment violation?

Criminal threat of violence.

/not a lawyer


According to the law up here, it's called assault.

265. (1) A person commits an assault when
(a) without the consent of another person, he applies force intentionally to that other person, directly or indirectly;
(b) he attempts or threatens, by an act or a gesture, to apply force to another person, if he has, or causes that other person to believe on reasonable grounds that he has, present ability to effect his purpose


 The camera guy didn't really do his job there ... It looks like Grimm grabbed the reporter, but it is hard to tell. Up here the punishment for that is up to five years. There's also uttering threats which is good for another five, you could also make an argument for criminal harassment which is up to ten. Point is he ought to be arrested and put on trial, given the whole thing was recorded.

/Also not a lawyer
 
2014-01-29 01:07:41 PM

Far Cough: Deucednuisance: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: mrshowrules: If I was the employer of this reporter, I would insist that he file a police complaint and I would have my legal department all over it.

1st Amendment violation?

Simple Battery, for goodness sakes.  He rushed the guy and made contact with him, while uttering physical threats.  The unwanted touching is clearly a Battery, and if the totality of the circumstances would put a reasonable person in fear of imminent harm, you've got Assault right there, too.

He should be in jail right now!  That poor little reporter showed far more bravery than the "marine" did -- responding reasonably and actually pursuing his professional agenda even while being pushed into and threatened with being PUSHED OVER THE BALCONY HE WAS STANDING AGAINST by a hulking suited thug.

This should not stand - Michael Grimm is a dangerous criminal who should be stripped of his government job, at the very least.

On the bright side, YAY, there's still something resembling real journalism left in the world!  I had no respect for the terminally boring "NY1" channel before this, but now I'm all about them.


Interestingly Grimm threatening the reporter won't really discourage the rest. After all the story of him assaulting the reporter is more immediately newsworthy than the campaign finance fraud. Instant news story.
 
2014-01-29 01:08:39 PM

LectertheChef: lordjupiter: "No, no," Grimm says. "You're not man enough, you're not man enough. I'll break you in half. Like a boy."


0_o

Yeah, that sounded more than a little gay. Not normal gay, oh no, not at all. Like "I'm gonna make you squeal like a pig" kind of gay. Like picking a young man up at the bar, taking him back to your place, lubing him up and buttfarking him, then tossing him out on the street naked kind of gay. A sick, twisted, self-loathing thing, where the only way he can get off is by thoroughly humiliating and dominating another man. Because his domineering wife regularly gives it to him hard and dirty with her vibrating Feeldoe Stout, while calling him Little Princess Ariel.


Yes, that's a weird, weird threat.   I read what Diogenes said about him, I wonder if he has any other recollection about having any "vibes".

It reminds me of the time Mike Tyson flipped out in public and started yelling at a guy, "I'm gonna f*ck you 'til you love me!"  Not that I think Mile Tyson is gay, but it's a weird threat.
 
2014-01-29 01:10:59 PM
Ironically, this would have gone better if the skinny journalist were NOT the one keeping his cool, and had instead responded more appropriately to the situation: "Stop pushing me!  No, don't throw me over the balcony!  I'm sorry, I won't ask you more questions."

But even without that, this still should be a slam dunk for at least an arrest.
 
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