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2014-01-29 06:39:22 AM  
NFL needs to lose their damn tax exemption. Fast.

Hey, Congress...you keep biatchin' about needing extra cash....
 
2014-01-29 09:00:22 AM  
i really don't care. if you are paying thousands for your ticket that is a minor fee. the super bowl has been out of the reach of the average fan for a good while.
 
2014-01-29 09:03:08 AM  

NickelP: i really don't care. if you are paying thousands for your ticket that is a minor fee. the super bowl has been out of the reach of the average fan for a good while.


Not literally out of reach, just more than the average person would spend.  If I had wanted to, I could be there.  I could part with 5 grand, I just won't for that purpose.  Not worth it to me, even if my team were in it.
 
2014-01-29 09:04:36 AM  
You cannot even take one of New York City's famous and plentiful taxis.

Out of curiosity, how much would it cost to take an NYC cab to New Jersey?

Demetrius: NFL needs to lose their damn tax exemption. Fast.

Hey, Congress...you keep biatchin' about needing extra cash....


Not this shiat again.... The NFL as an umbrella organization is a non-profit. The individual teams, who are making all the revenue, ARE taxed appropriately.
 
2014-01-29 09:05:03 AM  

nekom: NickelP: i really don't care. if you are paying thousands for your ticket that is a minor fee. the super bowl has been out of the reach of the average fan for a good while.

Not literally out of reach, just more than the average person would spend.  If I had wanted to, I could be there.  I could part with 5 grand, I just won't for that purpose.  Not worth it to me, even if my team were in it.


Quite a few Seattle people will be there as part of contingents their employers are sponsoring. Some of the hit-cost gets taken out that way. Agreed, the basic purchase fan price is ridiculous any more.
 
2014-01-29 09:15:58 AM  

Donnchadha: The NFL as an umbrella organization is a non-profit


And there's no way they should be considered a non-profit and they should be taxed accordingly.
 
2014-01-29 09:18:11 AM  

nekom: NickelP: i really don't care. if you are paying thousands for your ticket that is a minor fee. the super bowl has been out of the reach of the average fan for a good while.

Not literally out of reach, just more than the average person would spend.  If I had wanted to, I could be there.  I could part with 5 grand, I just won't for that purpose.  Not worth it to me, even if my team were in it.


plus about 5k in travel, lodging etc. not saying lots of folks can't drop 10k on this, just for most people a 10k vacation is probably a once in a lifetime event if that. anyhow my point was more that tacking $50 onto that pretty much means nothing.
 
2014-01-29 10:05:37 AM  
NickelP:
plus about 5k in travel, lodging etc. not saying lots of folks can't drop 10k on this, just for most people a 10k vacation is probably a once in a lifetime event if that. anyhow my point was more that tacking $50 onto that pretty much means nothing.

Especially when 10K can buy you a HELL of a better vacation than New Jersey to watch a single football game.  Christ you could probably sail to Europe and back on that.
 
2014-01-29 10:26:04 AM  

nekom: Christ you could probably sail to Europe and back on that.


Wouldn't he walk?
 
2014-01-29 10:26:19 AM  

nekom: NickelP:
plus about 5k in travel, lodging etc. not saying lots of folks can't drop 10k on this, just for most people a 10k vacation is probably a once in a lifetime event if that. anyhow my point was more that tacking $50 onto that pretty much means nothing.

Especially when 10K can buy you a HELL of a better vacation than New Jersey to watch a single football game.  Christ you could probably sail to Europe and back on that.


Especially for a sport that is much better to watch on TV nowadays. Jesus, take that 10 grand and build yourself a new home theater and you'll never need to go to any game again.
 
2014-01-29 10:26:41 AM  
The NFL is taking a page out of the Dan Snyder playbook.
 
2014-01-29 10:29:20 AM  

Demetrius: Donnchadha: The NFL as an umbrella organization is a non-profit

And there's no way they should be considered a non-profit and they should be taxed accordingly.



Yeah!

And why is this in the Sports tab?
 
2014-01-29 10:30:10 AM  

Demetrius: Donnchadha: The NFL as an umbrella organization is a non-profit

And there's no way they should be considered a non-profit and they should be taxed accordingly.


Ok their tax bill will be $0 since they don't make any profit.
 
2014-01-29 10:31:58 AM  

Demetrius: Donnchadha: The NFL as an umbrella organization is a non-profit

And there's no way they should be considered a non-profit and they should be taxed accordingly.


... Other than that they don't make profits.
McDonald's collects revenue from its franchises for profit, and is taxed.
The NFL distributes all of its revenues after expenses to its franchises - it does not record profits - and is not taxed under the code for industry association. The money it distributes is taxed at the team level.
Besides, stripping the non-profit status isn't likely to do anything. The NFL simply doesn't record profits to tax.
 
2014-01-29 10:33:52 AM  
Didn't we have this thread two or three times already?  A month ago, when they actually announced the rules?
 
2014-01-29 10:34:31 AM  
CSB
Superbowl XX Bears vs. Patriots in the Big Easy. We used my uncles car as a taxi and made money shuttling people to and from the Superdome.
/sold our $75.00 face value tickets for $550.00, sunck in and made it back to Chicago with more money than we left with.
Bears
 
2014-01-29 10:34:53 AM  

MugzyBrown: Demetrius: Donnchadha: The NFL as an umbrella organization is a non-profit

And there's no way they should be considered a non-profit and they should be taxed accordingly.

Ok their tax bill will be $0 since they don't make any profit.


Wait, you think that non-profit organizations don't make a profit?  Many colleges are non-profit.  Churches are non-profit (also non-prophet).  they still make profit.
 
2014-01-29 10:36:08 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-29 10:38:07 AM  
Arrival by private helicopters only. No rentals
 
2014-01-29 10:40:45 AM  
I couldnt describe cricket, so we even
 
2014-01-29 10:42:05 AM  

van1ty: MugzyBrown: Demetrius: Donnchadha: The NFL as an umbrella organization is a non-profit

And there's no way they should be considered a non-profit and they should be taxed accordingly.

Ok their tax bill will be $0 since they don't make any profit.

Wait, you think that non-profit organizations don't make a profit?  Many colleges are non-profit.  Churches are non-profit (also non-prophet).  they still make profit.


Ignore churches, because that's something else. After expenses non-profit colleges don't make profit. They may spend money on things we don't think are educational but the government does, but that's not profit.
If they're breaking the law, strip their status.
If you've got a problem with accounting laws, take that up with confess.
 
2014-01-29 10:42:39 AM  
I've always said I'd go if the Bengals made it (lol, I know I know ), however, it's to the point where the expense outweighs the experience. Sure, I could spend $5k-$10k on a weekend for the game OR I could watch the game with friends/family and then go take an awesome weeks long vacation with that same budget. The decision kind of makes itself there.
 
2014-01-29 10:46:38 AM  

van1ty: MugzyBrown: Demetrius: Donnchadha: The NFL as an umbrella organization is a non-profit

And there's no way they should be considered a non-profit and they should be taxed accordingly.

Ok their tax bill will be $0 since they don't make any profit.

Wait, you think that non-profit organizations don't make a profit?  Many colleges are non-profit.  Churches are non-profit (also non-prophet).  they still make profit.


You don't know much about taxes/accounting/business. A non-profit could have revenues in excess of expenses but they can't just hand them out to the trustees (the equivalent to owners). They cannot have a profit.
 
2014-01-29 10:49:37 AM  

NickelP: nekom: NickelP: i really don't care. if you are paying thousands for your ticket that is a minor fee. the super bowl has been out of the reach of the average fan for a good while.

Not literally out of reach, just more than the average person would spend.  If I had wanted to, I could be there.  I could part with 5 grand, I just won't for that purpose.  Not worth it to me, even if my team were in it.

plus about 5k in travel, lodging etc. not saying lots of folks can't drop 10k on this, just for most people a 10k vacation is probably a once in a lifetime event if that. anyhow my point was more that tacking $50 onto that pretty much means nothing.


Exactly. I could afford to go, but I'd rather spend $10k on an exotic vacation like a trip to the Galapagos, not a trip to New Jersey.
 
2014-01-29 10:55:11 AM  
I have no problem with the rules. What I take exception to is the corporate VIPs won't have to follow the same rules
 
2014-01-29 10:58:01 AM  
All this despite the fact that taxpayers have paid for a ridiculous, stupefying, unbelievable 68% of NFL stadium construction costs since 1923-a number that has risen astronomically in recent years despite a crippling recession and bankrupt state governments.


That's one of the reasons why I won't be watching the Super Bowl on Sunday. I'm done with a bunch of billionaires who don't mind players having their knees completely torn out (Bowman) but refuse to pay for the buildings those athletes get crippled in.

Fark the NFL. The owners and league are so worried about player health, they're going to add more games and more playoff games. Wheeeeeeeeee!

Enjoy the game. I hope you beat the spread. Me? I'm gonna watch some Netflix, Amazon Prime, Youtube and do some heavy duty cooking.
 
2014-01-29 11:10:03 AM  

Ivandrago: NickelP: nekom: NickelP: i really don't care. if you are paying thousands for your ticket that is a minor fee. the super bowl has been out of the reach of the average fan for a good while.

Not literally out of reach, just more than the average person would spend.  If I had wanted to, I could be there.  I could part with 5 grand, I just won't for that purpose.  Not worth it to me, even if my team were in it.

plus about 5k in travel, lodging etc. not saying lots of folks can't drop 10k on this, just for most people a 10k vacation is probably a once in a lifetime event if that. anyhow my point was more that tacking $50 onto that pretty much means nothing.

Exactly. I could afford to go, but I'd rather spend $10k on an exotic vacation like a trip to the Galapagos, not a trip to New Jersey.


In the cold.......
 
2014-01-29 11:15:04 AM  

Generation_D: nekom: NickelP: i really don't care. if you are paying thousands for your ticket that is a minor fee. the super bowl has been out of the reach of the average fan for a good while.

Not literally out of reach, just more than the average person would spend.  If I had wanted to, I could be there.  I could part with 5 grand, I just won't for that purpose.  Not worth it to me, even if my team were in it.

Quite a few Seattle people will be there as part of contingents their employers are sponsoring. Some of the hit-cost gets taken out that way. Agreed, the basic purchase fan price is ridiculous any more.


This last sentence .... is confusing me. I guess they mean the fan price is ridiculous now, or was, or still is...."any more"??
 
2014-01-29 11:34:10 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: That's one of the reasons why I won't be watching the Super Bowl on Sunday. I'm done with a bunch of billionaires who don't mind players having their knees completely torn out (Bowman) but refuse to pay for the buildings those athletes get crippled in.

Fark the NFL. The owners and league are so worried about player health, they're going to add more games and more playoff games. Wheeeeeeeeee!

Enjoy the game. I hope you beat the spread. Me? I'm gonna watch some Netflix, Amazon Prime, Youtube and do some heavy duty cooking.


Ah, so instead of watching a football game for free and making no one directly richer, you're going to give money to a few more billionaires. Way to stick it to the man.

/will watch the Super Bowl
/and then some Netflix
 
2014-01-29 11:36:10 AM  

skrame: TheShavingofOccam123: That's one of the reasons why I won't be watching the Super Bowl on Sunday. I'm done with a bunch of billionaires who don't mind players having their knees completely torn out (Bowman) but refuse to pay for the buildings those athletes get crippled in.

Fark the NFL. The owners and league are so worried about player health, they're going to add more games and more playoff games. Wheeeeeeeeee!

Enjoy the game. I hope you beat the spread. Me? I'm gonna watch some Netflix, Amazon Prime, Youtube and do some heavy duty cooking.

Ah, so instead of watching a football game for free and making no one directly richer, you're going to give money to a few more billionaires. Way to stick it to the man.

/will watch the Super Bowl
/and then some Netflix


Watch The Damned United for some attractive football.
 
2014-01-29 11:45:58 AM  
How could they prevent somebody from walking to the game?  I'm not familiar with the area the stadium is in, but seems kind of odd that you can't walk if you choose to.
 
2014-01-29 11:49:29 AM  

JacobDavidWatson: Generation_D: nekom: NickelP: i really don't care. if you are paying thousands for your ticket that is a minor fee. the super bowl has been out of the reach of the average fan for a good while.

Not literally out of reach, just more than the average person would spend.  If I had wanted to, I could be there.  I could part with 5 grand, I just won't for that purpose.  Not worth it to me, even if my team were in it.

Quite a few Seattle people will be there as part of contingents their employers are sponsoring. Some of the hit-cost gets taken out that way. Agreed, the basic purchase fan price is ridiculous any more.

This last sentence .... is confusing me. I guess they mean the fan price is ridiculous now, or was, or still is...."any more"??


I think that's a regionalism.  "any more" = "nowadays" to some people.
 
2014-01-29 11:55:35 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: All this despite the fact that taxpayers have paid for a ridiculous, stupefying, unbelievable 68% of NFL stadium construction costs since 1923-a number that has risen astronomically in recent years despite a crippling recession and bankrupt state governments.


That's one of the reasons why I won't be watching the Super Bowl on Sunday. I'm done with a bunch of billionaires who don't mind players having their knees completely torn out (Bowman) but refuse to pay for the buildings those athletes get crippled in.


Fark the NFL. The owners and league are so worried about player health, they're going to add more games and more playoff games. Wheeeeeeeeee!


Enjoy the game. I hope you beat the spread. Me? I'm gonna watch some Netflix, Amazon Prime, Youtube and do some heavy duty cooking.


static4.wikia.nocookie.net

 
2014-01-29 11:56:25 AM  

chevydeuce: How could they prevent somebody from walking to the game?  I'm not familiar with the area the stadium is in, but seems kind of odd that you can't walk if you choose to.


My assumption (read the article, but it isn't really explained) is that the layout of the premises, say, a mile or two out from the stadium will be sealed off except for roads.  Which will only be occupied by buses (and whatever the hell transportion rich CEO's and celebrities can skirt the system with), with officers waving said transportion through and keeping walkers, bikers, etc. from avoiding the $51-a-trip buses.  Basically, there's no way to the stadium without taking those designated barricaded roads.

That's completely on assumption but I figure it will be something similar.
 
2014-01-29 11:58:39 AM  

FrancoFile: JacobDavidWatson: Generation_D: nekom: NickelP: i really don't care. if you are paying thousands for your ticket that is a minor fee. the super bowl has been out of the reach of the average fan for a good while.

Not literally out of reach, just more than the average person would spend.  If I had wanted to, I could be there.  I could part with 5 grand, I just won't for that purpose.  Not worth it to me, even if my team were in it.

Quite a few Seattle people will be there as part of contingents their employers are sponsoring. Some of the hit-cost gets taken out that way. Agreed, the basic purchase fan price is ridiculous any more.

This last sentence .... is confusing me. I guess they mean the fan price is ridiculous now, or was, or still is...."any more"??

I think that's a regionalism.  "any more" = "nowadays" to some people.


Is that what it is? I see it all the time on Fark, and it makes me crazy. To me, the use of  "anymore" requires a negative. "We don't do that anymore." "It's not like that anymore."

/Sold my Super Bowl tickets because there's no way I'm dealing with the mess at the stadium on Sunday.
 
2014-01-29 12:07:49 PM  

Chelle82: FrancoFile: JacobDavidWatson: Generation_D: nekom: NickelP: i really don't care. if you are paying thousands for your ticket that is a minor fee. the super bowl has been out of the reach of the average fan for a good while.

Not literally out of reach, just more than the average person would spend.  If I had wanted to, I could be there.  I could part with 5 grand, I just won't for that purpose.  Not worth it to me, even if my team were in it.

Quite a few Seattle people will be there as part of contingents their employers are sponsoring. Some of the hit-cost gets taken out that way. Agreed, the basic purchase fan price is ridiculous any more.

This last sentence .... is confusing me. I guess they mean the fan price is ridiculous now, or was, or still is...."any more"??

I think that's a regionalism.  "any more" = "nowadays" to some people.

Is that what it is? I see it all the time on Fark, and it makes me crazy. To me, the use of  "anymore" requires a negative. "We don't do that anymore." "It's not like that anymore."

/Sold my Super Bowl tickets because there's no way I'm dealing with the mess at the stadium on Sunday.


I guess irregardless of the fact its not proper grammar, for all intensive purposes that's just how people talk any more.
 
2014-01-29 12:10:18 PM  
you know when it's becoming prohibitive to go to any random regular season game because of costs, the super bowl is just the NFL taking their current head-up-ass mantra to a new extreme
 
2014-01-29 12:11:43 PM  

Chelle82: FrancoFile: JacobDavidWatson: Generation_D: nekom: NickelP: i really don't care. if you are paying thousands for your ticket that is a minor fee. the super bowl has been out of the reach of the average fan for a good while.

Not literally out of reach, just more than the average person would spend.  If I had wanted to, I could be there.  I could part with 5 grand, I just won't for that purpose.  Not worth it to me, even if my team were in it.

Quite a few Seattle people will be there as part of contingents their employers are sponsoring. Some of the hit-cost gets taken out that way. Agreed, the basic purchase fan price is ridiculous any more.

This last sentence .... is confusing me. I guess they mean the fan price is ridiculous now, or was, or still is...."any more"??

I think that's a regionalism.  "any more" = "nowadays" to some people.

Is that what it is? I see it all the time on Fark, and it makes me crazy. To me, the use of  "anymore" requires a negative. "We don't do that anymore." "It's not like that anymore."

/Sold my Super Bowl tickets because there's no way I'm dealing with the mess at the stadium on Sunday.


It makes more sense if you lead with the "any more" or "any longer" - it kind of implies the negative or contrast - but it's still awkward.  I think it's also used to imply a permanent change of state, but not consistently.

I prefer "lately", "recently", etc.
Or just be precise about the time if you can: "since 2004", "in the last 5 months", "ever since Nixon resigned"

"Lately, gas has been so expensive that I walk the 30 yards to the mailbox."
"Since his last colonoscopy, Uncle Bill walks funny."
 
2014-01-29 12:12:14 PM  

bearcats1983: I've always said I'd go if the Bengals made it (lol, I know I know ), however, it's to the point where the expense outweighs the experience. Sure, I could spend $5k-$10k on a weekend for the game OR I could watch the game with friends/family and then go take an awesome weeks long vacation with that same budget. The decision kind of makes itself there.


yep, even if my team ever made it to the super bowl again, i wouldn't go
 
2014-01-29 12:13:40 PM  

FrancoFile: JacobDavidWatson: Generation_D: nekom: NickelP: i really don't care. if you are paying thousands for your ticket that is a minor fee. the super bowl has been out of the reach of the average fan for a good while.

Not literally out of reach, just more than the average person would spend.  If I had wanted to, I could be there.  I could part with 5 grand, I just won't for that purpose.  Not worth it to me, even if my team were in it.

Quite a few Seattle people will be there as part of contingents their employers are sponsoring. Some of the hit-cost gets taken out that way. Agreed, the basic purchase fan price is ridiculous any more.

This last sentence .... is confusing me. I guess they mean the fan price is ridiculous now, or was, or still is...."any more"??

I think that's a regionalism.  "any more" = "nowadays" to some people.


To paraphrase a certain mid-70s Roman Polanski film, "Don't be a nebby-nose Jake, it's Yinzertahn n'at."
 
2014-01-29 12:23:53 PM  
I'll pay for Red Zone. I won't pay four-digit ticket prices, 50 bucks for the privilege to go to the stadium, $15 sandwiches and whatever abomination beers are going for inside MetLife.

It's a better TV product anyway.
 
2014-01-29 12:28:11 PM  
Donnchadha:
Out of curiosity, how much would it cost to take an NYC cab to New Jersey?

Midtown to the Meadowlands the meter would read $30 without traffic, but it's outside the area where cabs are required to go.
The fare would be negotiated.  Oh, and you couldn't get a NYC cab to take you back unless you paid one to hang around for the whole game.  By law, they can't pick up fares there.

Here's a nice outrage:  For most Meadowlands events, including the Giants, Jets, concerts, etc. there's usually an express bus from the Port Authority Bus Terminal right to the facility.  It costs around eight bucks, IIRC.  That's cancelled, because the NFL is offering their own bus service.  For fifty one bucks.
 
2014-01-29 12:30:43 PM  

AdamK: bearcats1983: I've always said I'd go if the Bengals made it (lol, I know I know ), however, it's to the point where the expense outweighs the experience. Sure, I could spend $5k-$10k on a weekend for the game OR I could watch the game with friends/family and then go take an awesome weeks long vacation with that same budget. The decision kind of makes itself there.

yep, even if my team ever made it to the super bowl again, i wouldn't go


Yep. Imagine paying out the wazoo for the experience and your team loses. I'm not saying it wouldn't be a positive, bucket-list experience, but given the costs was it really worth it?
 
2014-01-29 12:34:31 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: Here's a nice outrage:  For most Meadowlands events, including the Giants, Jets, concerts, etc. there's usually an express bus from the Port Authority Bus Terminal right to the facility.  It costs around eight bucks, IIRC.  That's cancelled, because the NFL is offering their own bus service.  For fifty one bucks.


Don't see where it says the PA buses are canceled.
 
2014-01-29 12:36:26 PM  
How is not allowing walking to the game or getting dropped off even legal ? Seriously, anyone have an answer ? One can't use public streets to get to the game without being shook down ?
 
2014-01-29 12:38:40 PM  
Granted, it's been awhile since I've been around there, but the Meadowlands area never struck me as a particularly walkable paradise.
 
2014-01-29 12:39:51 PM  
Not that I have any interest in going to a superbowl, I'm fine watching it at home - but I have had Giants tickets for about 15 years now and this bs is really just getting out of hand.  I'd really like to get Goodell and his ilk in a room with a bunch of my fellow fed up fans, beat them all with crowbars, and then shove their own wallets down their throats until you get the death rattle.  I'd even pay for an official NFL Licensed crowbar beforehand.
 
2014-01-29 12:40:52 PM  

Keys dude: How is not allowing walking to the game or getting dropped off even legal ? Seriously, anyone have an answer ? One can't use public streets to get to the game without being shook down ?


The Meadowlands really isn't a "walkable" place to get to.   Could you walk there?  Sure, but not via traditional sidewalks.

That's why a lot of scalpers stand on the side of Routes 3, 4 and 17 leading up to the Meadowlands.
 
2014-01-29 12:43:00 PM  
Less02:

I get that. Most stadiums outside cities are not walkable, for example, where I live, the stadium where the Dolphins play. But again, how is this even legal ?
 
2014-01-29 12:43:32 PM  

LessO2: Manfred J. Hattan: Here's a nice outrage:  For most Meadowlands events, including the Giants, Jets, concerts, etc. there's usually an express bus from the Port Authority Bus Terminal right to the facility.  It costs around eight bucks, IIRC.  That's cancelled, because the NFL is offering their own bus service.  For fifty one bucks.

Don't see where it says the PA buses are canceled.


On game day, there will not be bus service from the terminal to MetLife Stadium.
 
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