hardinparamedic: Boloxor the Insipid:Who's the asshole, Soutare?It's just a travesty that he did so much good and yet he lost his license for complete incompetence, and still won't sleep with you.If it quacks like a quack...
Lenny_da_Hog: Now people think doctors are there to do what you tell them, instead of being highly educated and trained people who take care of problems the vast majority of people can't begin to understand.
bunner: So, anecdotes are like "feels likes"?
Solutare: Wow, I can't believe assholes are defending this asshole.Oh... wait. I guess I'm not surprised at all, actually.
Boloxor the Insipid: Not filing your tax returns is a misdemeanor civil charge (http://www.irs.gov/irm/part25/irm_25-001-007.html ), which can escalate to felony, however it is still a civil, not criminal, matter.In 2005, Lundell was sentenced to three years' probation, but the probation was terminated after 16 months. Bentson was ordered to pay $1,129,937 to the Internal Revenue Service and was sentenced to four years in prison, to be followed by three years of supervised release
mr0x: Umm, please provide citation.
log_jammin: bunner: So, anecdotes are like "feels likes"?I guess you missed the link showing the mean income as 73K a year.here. let me post it again so you can ignore it again.http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes119013.htmalso you seem unaware of crop insurance, and government guaranteed agriculture loans.
mr0x: The average wage of a farmer is $24,000 and there are about half a million farmers in the US. That is about 1%-2% of the population.I think you read your chart wrong
mr0x: bunner: Like, eat food that like, just grows and stuff and not crap and it's better?Goollll lee!Whodathunk?The average wage of a farmer is $24,000 and there are about half a million farmers in the US. That is about 1%-2% of the population.There are more jailers than farmers. There are more financial managers than farmers. There are more lawyers than farmers. There are more police officers than ... you get the idea.Growing stuff is a low paying job done by a very small portion of the population.http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_nat.htm#00-0000
Boloxor the Insipid: He saved 5000 lives doing heart surgeries in his career.
Boloxor the Insipid: The footnote for the second 'probation' mention isn't even about Lundell.
Boloxor the Insipid: The previous mention of probation is about his medical licence.
Boloxor the Insipid: I see no evidence that Lundell was ever convicted of a crime.."In 2004, Lundell pleaded guilty in federal court to three counts of willful failure to file income tax returns. "
Boloxor the Insipid: It seems to me that the Atlantic article might be committing libel when it say 'Also, his invocation of moral defensibly loses gravitas in light of his criminal history.'Even if you accept the accusations posted on the website 'Quackwatch' as truth, there doesn't appear to be any 'criminal' history. Most of the 'charges' are about his medical license, not criminal wrong-doing. Not filing your tax returns is a misdemeanor civil charge (http://www.irs.gov/irm/part25/irm_25-001-007.html ), which can escalate to felony, however it is still a civil, not criminal, matter.What is his crime?
log_jammin: mr0x: Umm, please provide citation.I did. the link also has citations to the individual claims it makes.
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