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2014-01-28 08:19:47 PM  
Don't worry all you feet draggers.  The Department of Homeland Security will have the gulag set up by the end of March so you can be moved to permanent quarters.
 
2014-01-28 08:37:59 PM  
I'm on the "Obamacare will establish death panels to kill old people" side....am I right?
 
2014-01-28 08:40:41 PM  
I'm on the "HOLY CRAP, I CAN AFFORD TO GO THE THE DOCTOR NOW" side.
 
2014-01-28 08:48:49 PM  
WTF is Spundge?
 
2014-01-28 08:54:21 PM  
http://www.gallup.com/poll/166982/uninsured-rate-shows-initial-declin e -2014.aspx

you make 90k a year and you dont have health insurance ?
god I hope you get hit by a car, catch the plague and break multiple bones

no really, if you are that foolish, you need to suffer
 
2014-01-28 08:57:40 PM  
I'm on the "sh*t, I STILL can't afford this" side
 
2014-01-28 09:02:15 PM  

GWSuperfan: I'm on the "HOLY CRAP, I CAN AFFORD TO GO THE THE DOCTOR NOW" side.


/awesome
 
2014-01-28 09:08:56 PM  

Prey4reign: Don't worry all you feet draggers.  The Department of Homeland Security will have the gulag set up by the end of March so you can be moved to permanent quarters.


Typical projection from fans of the  last administration,
 
2014-01-28 09:18:23 PM  

namatad: GWSuperfan: I'm on the "HOLY CRAP, I CAN AFFORD TO GO THE THE DOCTOR NOW" side.

/awesome


Yeah, it is- especially when you have a chronic medical condition. :)
 
2014-01-28 11:35:25 PM  
Seems like asking people in a poll if they have health insurance is an oddly tangential way of just getting at the same numbers HHS releases. They have released the number of enrollees and the age breakdowns; what more does this poll add?
 
2014-01-28 11:36:42 PM  

GWSuperfan: I'm on the "HOLY CRAP, I CAN AFFORD TO GO THE THE DOCTOR NOW" side.


The value of this, repeated a few million times thus far, cannot be under-estimated.
 
2014-01-28 11:39:13 PM  

namatad: http://www.gallup.com/poll/166982/uninsured-rate-shows-initial-declin e -2014.aspx

you make 90k a year and you dont have health insurance ?
god I hope you get hit by a car, catch the plague and break multiple bones

no really, if you are that foolish, you need to suffer


Yeah but you can't afford health insurance and a Porsche. Sacrifices must be made
 
2014-01-28 11:44:52 PM  
THEY NEED TO KILL THIS TERRIBLE ADEQUATE HEALTHCARE REFORM BEFORE WE ALL DIE!
 
2014-01-28 11:50:59 PM  
Sorry, pretty sure "the numbers" don't validate your utter butthurt over ACA.
 
2014-01-28 11:52:13 PM  
All I know is my gut says "maybe".
 
2014-01-28 11:55:24 PM  
In Texas we have many conservative lowlife's causing problems. When can I death panel them?
 
2014-01-28 11:56:01 PM  

fusillade762: All I know is my gut says "maybe".


If I don't make it, tell my wife I said hello.
 
2014-01-28 11:56:49 PM  

maniacbastard: In Texas we have many conservative lowlife's causing problems. When can I death panel them?


Make sure it's made out mesquite. Crackles nicely in the fire.
 
2014-01-28 11:57:02 PM  

GWSuperfan: I'm on the "HOLY CRAP, I CAN AFFORD TO GO THE THE DOCTOR NOW" side.


If you can afford the deductible, yeah.
 
2014-01-28 11:58:13 PM  

clowncar on fire: GWSuperfan: I'm on the "HOLY CRAP, I CAN AFFORD TO GO THE THE DOCTOR NOW" side.

If you can afford the deductible, yeah.


Zero is a lot.
 
2014-01-29 12:04:11 AM  
Lucky you- my company family plan went from 250.00 to 1450.00  Payments dropped $2 a pay period so I'm supposed to get the word out there about how much this is saving me.  As long as I don't get sick, this is like getting a .025/hr raise.
 
2014-01-29 12:04:28 AM  
On the upside, my old catastrophic plan has been converted to a Bronze plan and the rates actually went down $10.00/mo.

On the downside, my GP who ran his own clinic very near my house, decided to give it up upon the laws implementation and move to one of the giant corporate providers.

I could have still seen him, but it's something of a haul.
 
2014-01-29 12:07:22 AM  

clowncar on fire: Lucky you- my company family plan went from 250.00 to 1450.00  Payments dropped $2 a pay period so I'm supposed to get the word out there about how much this is saving me.  As long as I don't get sick, this is like getting a .025/hr raise.


Dude, read between the lines. I'm below the poverty level. You should count your blessings.
 
2014-01-29 12:07:41 AM  
I hope I can finally get this weeping sore on my penis taken care of now.  It hurts.
 
2014-01-29 12:12:29 AM  

whidbey: clowncar on fire: Lucky you- my company family plan went from 250.00 to 1450.00  Payments dropped $2 a pay period so I'm supposed to get the word out there about how much this is saving me.  As long as I don't get sick, this is like getting a .025/hr raise.

Dude, read between the lines. I'm below the poverty level. You should count your blessings.


-It's sad when you work at a hospital and they can't find a way to provide their own employees reduced healthcare :(  My kid gets a better discount working at Hollister.
 
2014-01-29 12:18:19 AM  
"prove"
 
2014-01-29 12:24:28 AM  

Triple Oak: "prove"


That's the nice thing about strangers- you don't even feel the need to prove a thing to them.  But if you feel that strong about the issue- gis Hollister employee benefits or some such.  As to the increase in my deductible, I'm probably not the first to make this claim and probably won't be the last.  I don't have the means (one of the last humans on earth  to not own a scanner) nor the ambition to back up my claim as it really wouldn't matter to you anyhow.
 
2014-01-29 12:25:02 AM  

clowncar on fire: Lucky you- my company family plan went from 250.00 to 1450.00  Payments dropped $2 a pay period so I'm supposed to get the word out there about how much this is saving me.  As long as I don't get sick, this is like getting a .025/hr raise.


I was browsing through the FL ACA plans on healthcare.gov and the difference between the Bronze plan (with a high deductible and almost everything coming out of pocket up to it) and the Platinum plan (with a reasonable deductible and low or $0 copays on almost everything so the deductible wouldn't really come into play anyway) is only $100/month.  The overall cost for the Bronze was a little higher than I'd like it to be, but for as cheap as it was to move to the Platinum where the coverage is great, it seems like a no-brainer.

Of course, in the end it turned out I didn't need to deal with it anyway since I switched employers and the new one has a kickass health plan that's less than the exchange bronze (after employer contribution) but overall I was impressed with the options on the exchange.
 
2014-01-29 12:25:13 AM  

clowncar on fire: Triple Oak: "prove"

That's the nice thing about strangers- you don't even feel the need to prove a thing to them.  But if you feel that strong about the issue- gis Hollister employee benefits or some such.  As to the increase in my deductible, I'm probably not the first to make this claim and probably won't be the last.  I don't have the means (one of the last humans on earth  to not own a scanner) nor the ambition to back up my claim as it really wouldn't matter to you anyhow.


Yeah but you're on Trollwatch. Big difference.
 
2014-01-29 12:28:00 AM  

clowncar on fire: whidbey: clowncar on fire: Lucky you- my company family plan went from 250.00 to 1450.00  Payments dropped $2 a pay period so I'm supposed to get the word out there about how much this is saving me.  As long as I don't get sick, this is like getting a .025/hr raise.

Dude, read between the lines. I'm below the poverty level. You should count your blessings.

-It's sad when you work at a hospital and they can't find a way to provide their own employees reduced healthcare :(  My kid gets a better discount working at Hollister.


Be thankful your kid works corporate.

I'm 30 and I've never even sniffed a check-up since I was 17.

Lord knows how many innocent girls in high-school and college I might have pumped full of AIDS or some other STD.

/casts a new lure
 
2014-01-29 12:29:11 AM  
Do fleshlights get AIDS?

*ducks*
 
2014-01-29 12:32:05 AM  

whidbey: clowncar on fire: Triple Oak: "prove"

That's the nice thing about strangers- you don't even feel the need to prove a thing to them.  But if you feel that strong about the issue- gis Hollister employee benefits or some such.  As to the increase in my deductible, I'm probably not the first to make this claim and probably won't be the last.  I don't have the means (one of the last humans on earth  to not own a scanner) nor the ambition to back up my claim as it really wouldn't matter to you anyhow.

Yeah but you're on Trollwatch. Big difference.



Being a conservative on a progressive leaning site will earn you that title.  Due to the limited population of conservative posters, I tend to post a little more often then I should just to pick up the slack.
 
2014-01-29 12:34:37 AM  

whidbey: Do fleshlights get AIDS?
*ducks*


You probably shouldn't share, even if all your friends really, really like her.
 
2014-01-29 12:36:44 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: WTF is Spundge?


It means "it's a great idea but possibly not and I'm not being indecisive."
 
2014-01-29 12:41:36 AM  

Mithiwithi: HaywoodJablonski: WTF is Spundge?

It means "it's a great idea but possibly not and I'm not being indecisive."


Sort of a wait and see approach. Or maybe not.
 
2014-01-29 12:45:14 AM  

whidbey: clowncar on fire: Triple Oak: "prove"

That's the nice thing about strangers- you don't even feel the need to prove a thing to them.  But if you feel that strong about the issue- gis Hollister employee benefits or some such.  As to the increase in my deductible, I'm probably not the first to make this claim and probably won't be the last.  I don't have the means (one of the last humans on earth  to not own a scanner) nor the ambition to back up my claim as it really wouldn't matter to you anyhow.

Yeah but you're on Trollwatch. Big difference.



I peeked at your profile- seem to be quite the bike fan.  Just curious into the nature of cyclists:  Did you pick up riding the bike on your own or get help from parents or friends?  Working on a theory.
 
2014-01-29 12:58:41 AM  

DamnYankees: what more does this poll add?


They're SERIOUS POLLSTERS and this information is VERY IMPORTANT!

Just ask them!
 
2014-01-29 01:01:41 AM  
After I got my free Obamacare, I just quit working. Now I'm living like a Socialist blood sucker on the fat ass of David Koch.Good times.
 
2014-01-29 01:29:17 AM  

clowncar on fire: -It's sad when you work at a hospital and they can't find a way to provide their own employees reduced healthcare :( My kid gets a better discount working at Hollister.


Let me guess: for-profit hospital?  Then that's makes you "part of the problem".

/given that your kid works for part of the Abecrombie & Fitch empire, that makes them "part of the problem", too,
 
2014-01-29 01:39:03 AM  

GWSuperfan: I'm on the "HOLY CRAP, I CAN AFFORD TO GO THE THE DOCTOR NOW" side.


Same here. Feels farking great too.

namatad:you make 90k a year and you dont have health insurance ?
god I hope you get hit by a car, catch the plague and break multiple bones


This times a brazillian. The people that are the most "screwed" by the ACA seem to be those who to little to no responsibility prior.
 
2014-01-29 01:45:08 AM  
I'm on the "This doesn't affect me directly because I have insurance through my employer, but because I'm capable of feeling empathy for my fellow man I'm glad that the uninsured will now be able to afford insurance" side.
 
2014-01-29 01:51:21 AM  
You can't spell Denver Post without DERP.

/That was the only thing I could think of when I read this
 
2014-01-29 01:54:15 AM  
I'm on the, "I'm gainfully employed and have a nice insurance plan, but I recognize there are many other human beings out there who are not as fortunate and having seen other people suffer unnecessarily due to how things were before, I could never in good conscience attempt to revert the law back to how it was previously without feeling like a monster. I don't care if my paycheck is lighter, if my taxes are heavier, or if I end up sending my grandmother to a death panel, other human beings are suffering and I want to see it stopped." line of things.
 
2014-01-29 02:07:19 AM  

GWSuperfan: I'm on the "HOLY CRAP, I CAN AFFORD TO GO THE THE DOCTOR NOW" side.


F*ck yeah.
 
2014-01-29 02:53:48 AM  

Prey4reign: Don't worry all you feet draggers.  The Department of Homeland Security will have the gulag set up by the end of March so you can be moved to permanent quarters.


I love a good tasty gulag.
 
2014-01-29 03:05:50 AM  

Prey4reign: Don't worry all you feet draggers.  The Department of Homeland Security will have the gulag set up by the end of March so you can be moved to permanent quarters.


img.fark.net
 
2014-01-29 03:35:05 AM  

namatad: http://www.gallup.com/poll/166982/uninsured-rate-shows-initial-declin e -2014.aspx

you make 90k a year and you dont have health insurance ?
god I hope you get hit by a car, catch the plague and break multiple bones

no really, if you are that foolish, you need to suffer


This doesn't apply to me, but this is silly and needlessly cruel in nature. If you honestly feel that way you need a break from the Internet to regain your humanity.  90 thousand a year isn't billions or even millions of dollars, and in fact, it's jack shiat to many people who are decent, work hard and are responsible and are not buying new cars every year and so forth.

Get some humanity.   Your opinion of a person without insurance can be anything, but it's stupid of you to assume the circumstances of others, e.i, that they make 90K a year means they can pay insurance.

Maybe they have their money earmarked already to help their elderly grandmother, father, or mother?

Don't be such a prick.
 
2014-01-29 03:46:53 AM  

clowncar on fire: GWSuperfan: I'm on the "HOLY CRAP, I CAN AFFORD TO GO THE THE DOCTOR NOW" side.

If you can afford the deductible, yeah.


Given that pre-ACA, the premium would have been $3k/month and now it's less than $300/month with NO deductible, and a max out-of-pocket of a couple thousand, I think I'm happy.

/just sayin'
 
2014-01-29 03:49:22 AM  

walktoanarcade: namatad: http://www.gallup.com/poll/166982/uninsured-rate-shows-initial-declin e -2014.aspx

you make 90k a year and you dont have health insurance ?
god I hope you get hit by a car, catch the plague and break multiple bones

no really, if you are that foolish, you need to suffer

This doesn't apply to me, but this is silly and needlessly cruel in nature. If you honestly feel that way you need a break from the Internet to regain your humanity.  90 thousand a year isn't billions or even millions of dollars, and in fact, it's jack shiat to many people who are decent, work hard and are responsible and are not buying new cars every year and so forth.

Get some humanity.   Your opinion of a person without insurance can be anything, but it's stupid of you to assume the circumstances of others, e.i, that they make 90K a year means they can pay insurance.

Maybe they have their money earmarked already to help their elderly grandmother, father, or mother?

Don't be such a prick.


Nobody has enough money to not have health insurance unless they can't get it, or are stupid beyond belief.

There's just no excuse to not have some kind of health insurance unless you can't get it or are stupid beyond belief.

And I say this as someone who has been turned down for insurance for the past 20+ years except when I have employee insurance, and I've been dancing in the streets since Jan 1, 2014 rolled around. At this point, I don't even care how much I have to pay

If you could afford insurance and choose not to, then you're stupid beyond belief, and I refuse to listen to any other excuse you might have, except rank stupidity. Try living in terror of hospitalization, car accidents or catastrophic illness for a couple of decades, and then come tell me how much money you need for your aged parents and how much good you'll be able to do them when you're crippled or dead.
 
2014-01-29 03:50:00 AM  

whidbey: Zero is a lot.


SRSLY.

Picked up my new blood sugar meter, 3 months worth of test strips, etc, plus almost a year's supply of one of my insulins for about $100.

In all seriousness, THANKS, OBAMA!
 
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