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(TMZ)   Teen earns more than $250,000 and all he has to do is live with the shame that Kanye West kicked his ass   (tmz.com) divider line 76
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2014-01-28 06:59:13 PM
Wow, this is like the Palestinians and the Israelis, I don't know which assholes to root for.
 
2014-01-28 07:20:58 PM
This is a really horrible precedent.  I was hoping that it would come out that the vile idjit at least had some form of Tourette's.
 
2014-01-28 07:22:38 PM
I'm calling bullshiat. The link to their "source" goes right back to a different TMZ article that only says:

Sources connected with the 18-year-old tell us ... his lawyer called Kanye's people and expressed the desire to strike a civil settlement -- FOR A PRICE -- several hundred thousand dollars.

So even if this is true the only story is the kid ASKING for money.
 
2014-01-28 07:24:19 PM
I'd let Honey Boo Boo kick the shiat out of me for ten grand.
 
2014-01-28 07:24:48 PM
Personally, I'd be especially ashamed with the "taunted someone with racial slurs which led to their SO coming out of nowhere to beat my ass" part.
 
2014-01-28 07:33:03 PM

Mugato: Wow, this is like the Palestinians and the Israelis, I don't know which assholes to root for.


As much as I think Kanye is an embarrassment to anything multicellular, I'd still take him over some schmuck yelling 'n**ger lover' at ANYONE.
 
2014-01-28 07:40:55 PM
Second, the victim's alleged racial epithets will not sit well with the jury

That's not how juries are supposed to work.  Using a racial slur is not a justification for assault.  The juries job is to determine if the facts prove beyond reasonable doubt that an assault happened.
 
2014-01-28 07:44:42 PM
I hate Kanye and hate reading about him.

And now I hate this kid as much and hope karma works out in such a way that this teen blows all his money on a sports car, then has a head-on with Justin Bieber.
 
2014-01-28 07:55:05 PM

kling_klang_bed: As much as I think Kanye is an embarrassment to anything multicellular, I'd still take him over some schmuck yelling 'n**ger lover' at ANYONE.


Not even Kim Kardashian deserves that, and now I have to cry in the corner because the bad man made me feel even the slightest bit of sympathy for someone I despise.
 
2014-01-28 07:56:59 PM

fusillade762: I'm calling bullshiat. The link to their "source" goes right back to a different TMZ article that only says:

Sources connected with the 18-year-old tell us ... his lawyer called Kanye's people and expressed the desire to strike a civil settlement -- FOR A PRICE -- several hundred thousand dollars.

So even if this is true the only story is the kid ASKING for money.


Which was the plan all along.

Seriously, this kid copied the playbook set by that idiot that Sean Penn laid out in the 80s. Find a celebrity, bug a celebrity, get them so mad that they knock your ass out, and then ask for a handout when it's over.
 
2014-01-28 07:58:58 PM
He settled out of court so his lawyer gets 25%.
 
2014-01-28 08:04:39 PM

fusillade762: I'm calling bullshiat. The link to their "source" goes right back to a different TMZ article that only says:

Sources connected with the 18-year-old tell us ... his lawyer called Kanye's people and expressed the desire to strike a civil settlement -- FOR A PRICE -- several hundred thousand dollars.

So even if this is true the only story is the kid ASKING for money.


You must be new if you are questioning TMZ.   These days, they simply are THE source of entertainment news.  They rarely, if ever, turn out to be incorrect.

That said, i bet that was the best well-spent 250K Kanye ever did.   I don't like him (or Kim) much, but i support him defending his fiancee.
 
2014-01-28 08:07:43 PM

kling_klang_bed: Mugato: Wow, this is like the Palestinians and the Israelis, I don't know which assholes to root for.

As much as I think Kanye is an embarrassment to anything multicellular, I'd still take him over some schmuck yelling 'n**ger lover' at ANYONE.


One might even be able to shake that off if you thought about the consequences but the kid made an outright physical threat to his wife.
 
2014-01-28 08:08:32 PM

The Why Not Guy: kling_klang_bed: As much as I think Kanye is an embarrassment to anything multicellular, I'd still take him over some schmuck yelling 'n**ger lover' at ANYONE.

Not even Kim Kardashian deserves that, and now I have to cry in the corner because the bad man made me feel even the slightest bit of sympathy for someone I despise.


Awwwwwwwwwww, it's ok!!! He's the one who has to drag that anchor around with him for at least the next 18 years!!!!
 
2014-01-28 08:13:36 PM

Mugato: kling_klang_bed: Mugato: Wow, this is like the Palestinians and the Israelis, I don't know which assholes to root for.

As much as I think Kanye is an embarrassment to anything multicellular, I'd still take him over some schmuck yelling 'n**ger lover' at ANYONE.

One might even be able to shake that off if you thought about the consequences but the kid made an outright physical threat to his wife.


What did the douchebag kid say to the douchebag's wife?
 
2014-01-28 08:17:55 PM

Mark Ratner: Mugato: kling_klang_bed: Mugato: Wow, this is like the Palestinians and the Israelis, I don't know which assholes to root for.

As much as I think Kanye is an embarrassment to anything multicellular, I'd still take him over some schmuck yelling 'n**ger lover' at ANYONE.

One might even be able to shake that off if you thought about the consequences but the kid made an outright physical threat to his wife.

What did the douchebag kid say to the douchebag's wife?


He called her a 'n--ger lover'. He's lucky, there's many many places where that would get you shot in a second.
 
2014-01-28 08:22:16 PM
It's probably a plan from elder mama Kardashian to try to drum up controversy, but failed.
 
2014-01-28 08:23:26 PM

Mark Ratner: What did the douchebag kid say to the douchebag's wife?


He apparently said, "I will kill you, slut".

Now that deserves a beat down, but apparently Kayne kept going apeshiat even when the kid was in the fetal position."

I think one smack was warranted to put him down and then file charges against him for making a death threat. But losing his shiat like that cost him.
 
2014-01-28 08:25:25 PM

Warlordtrooper: Second, the victim's alleged racial epithets will not sit well with the jury

That's not how juries are supposed to work.   Using a racial slur is not a justification for assault.  The juries job is to determine if the facts prove beyond reasonable doubt that an assault happened.


Actually it can be, sorta...

But probably not in this case, since Kanye wasnt there, heard it over the phone, drove there and kicked the guys ass.
 
2014-01-28 08:50:45 PM

Warlordtrooper: Using a racial slur is not a justification for assault.


I think there's a place for social ramifications that come about due to being a dick. While legally you should be allowed to say whatever you want or act a certain way within the law, there should be some avenue of recourse, within reason, outside the justice system. Unfortunately it's not something you can really codify without the potential for massive abuse, at least that I can come up with. Our society is so large, disjointed and easily traversed that a sort of collective cold-shoulder doesn't really work. Needs to be more immediate.

Bring back dueling and mutually agreed upon fisticuffs? I dunno. Assholes that know they're assholes but act just within the bounds of the laws and are subsequently protected from any real consequence really grind my gears. And for every small dispute to need to end up in court where you have to either afford or be a lawyer isn't a good way to run a society, I don't think. The court system should be an avenue of last resort, when two parties can't iron out their dispute in any other way.
 
2014-01-28 08:52:56 PM

Eddie Ate Dynamite: Warlordtrooper: Using a racial slur is not a justification for assault.

I think there's a place for social ramifications that come about due to being a dick. While legally you should be allowed to say whatever you want or act a certain way within the law, there should be some avenue of recourse, within reason, outside the justice system. Unfortunately it's not something you can really codify without the potential for massive abuse, at least that I can come up with. Our society is so large, disjointed and easily traversed that a sort of collective cold-shoulder doesn't really work. Needs to be more immediate.

Bring back dueling and mutually agreed upon fisticuffs? I dunno. Assholes that know they're assholes but act just within the bounds of the laws and are subsequently protected from any real consequence really grind my gears. And for every small dispute to need to end up in court where you have to either afford or be a lawyer isn't a good way to run a society, I don't think. The court system should be an avenue of last resort, when two parties can't iron out their dispute in any other way.



I just explained that the kid made a death threat to the cow. That is not covered under free speech.

/jesus people, read a post once in a while
 
2014-01-28 09:09:15 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: I'd let Honey Boo Boo kick the shiat out of me for ten grand.


Can I kick you in the balls for $10?
 
2014-01-28 09:15:28 PM

Mugato: I just explained that the kid made a death threat to the cow. That is not covered under free speech.

/jesus people, read a post once in a while


Yeah, I read your post. My rant didn't really have anything to do with the actual facts of the case or the linked article, it's just something I've thought about off and on for a while now. I didn't have anybody handy to have this discussion with, so I posted it here on the off chance a discerning internet forums reader may have something they'd like to say on the subject.

Sorry for getting my navel gazing in your serious discussion.
 
2014-01-28 09:15:28 PM
I kicked Chuck Norris' ass, according to urban legend, so I'll take my chances with Fish Dicks West.
 
2014-01-28 09:20:55 PM
Maybe this is correct and maybe it isn't, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was true. I'm sure Kanye's lawyers and representatives want him to just pay up and make this go away. I hate that the little jackass might get a payday out of this, but he's also just put a really big target on his head. I'm pretty sure living the life of Randy "People who annoy you" Marsh doesn't get a neat and painless wrap up in the real world.

Enjoy your newfound celebrity, genius.
 
2014-01-28 09:36:05 PM

EdgeRunner: Enjoy your newfound celebrity, genius.


if you can make 250 grand because kanye hit you.....

i can't argue with the dude's logic.

EdgeRunner: but he's also just put a really big target on his head.


only in crazy world.  in reality, no one gives two shiats what a guy that kanye punched out called that sow of a wife of his.

/come hit me, kanye.
 
2014-01-28 09:43:13 PM

Warlordtrooper: Second, the victim's alleged racial epithets will not sit well with the jury

That's not how juries are supposed to work.  Using a racial slur is not a justification for assault.  The juries job is to determine if the facts prove beyond reasonable doubt that an assault happened.


Crime of passion.
Fighting words.
Jury nullification.
 
2014-01-28 09:45:43 PM

frepnog: EdgeRunner: Enjoy your newfound celebrity, genius.

if you can make 250 grand because kanye hit you.....

i can't argue with the dude's logic.

EdgeRunner: but he's also just put a really big target on his head.

only in crazy world.  in reality, no one gives two shiats what a guy that kanye punched out called that sow of a wife of his.

/come hit me, kanye.


Racial slurs are pretty broad salvos to go firing off in public. If you think plenty of other people aren't going to be pissed at this loser, you need to get out more.

Just, y'know, make sure you've got people by your side to keep you out of trouble. You seem to have less street smarts than an armadillo who loves chasing cars.
 
2014-01-28 10:01:57 PM

EdgeRunner: Racial slurs are pretty broad salvos to go firing off in public. If you think plenty of other people aren't going to be pissed at this loser, you need to get out more.


lol.  you make me laugh.  you and all people that say shiat like this - because it makes you WORSE than the kid that said the original shiat.

because it makes you weak minded.  you are able to be manipulated by a young man with dumb words in his mouth.  you and kanye need to grow the fark up.

EdgeRunner: Just, y'know, make sure you've got people by your side to keep you out of trouble. You seem to have less street smarts than an armadillo who loves chasing cars.


i am pretty damned intelligent - I do not yell racist slurs at women, nor do I truly become angry at those that do - because words do not harm me.

you know what you do when calls your wife bad words and threatens her with death, all while being as threatening as a yard squirrel?

You call the police, make a report, have them arrested, detained, charged, and if possible imprisoned, and then you look at them behind the bars of their own making and ask "was it worth your freedom?"
 
2014-01-28 10:09:58 PM

frepnog: you know what you do when calls your wife bad words and threatens her with death, all while being as threatening as a yard squirrel?

You call the police, make a report, have them arrested, detained, charged, and if possible imprisoned, and then you look at them behind the bars of their own making and ask "was it worth your freedom?"


And while you're waiting for the police to arrive and the person tries to make good on his threats, are you confident that you can make it home to the jar on your wife's nightstand, grab your balls, return to the scene and do something the about it in time?
 
2014-01-28 10:20:26 PM

Mugato: frepnog: you know what you do when calls your wife bad words and threatens her with death, all while being as threatening as a yard squirrel?

You call the police, make a report, have them arrested, detained, charged, and if possible imprisoned, and then you look at them behind the bars of their own making and ask "was it worth your freedom?"

And while you're waiting for the police to arrive and the person tries to make good on his threats, are you confident that you can make it home to the jar on your wife's nightstand, grab your balls, return to the scene and do something the about it in time?


If Kim was truly worried about the guy's words...  she would have called the police.  She did not.

She called her husband.  Indicating that she was not concerned or truly threatened one whit with what the guy said....  but she wanted his ass beat.

Balls?  It takes balls to live in modern society and not act like a cave man, grunting and punching when someone says things you don't care for.  Violence is easy.  Acting like a grown up is apparently difficult.

Had Kanye been with his wife when the original altercation happened and punched the guy, yep that is defending your wife, he would have been right to do so, and this would be going nowhere.

Not what happened.
 
2014-01-28 10:20:48 PM

AeAe: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: I'd let Honey Boo Boo kick the shiat out of me for ten grand.

Can I kick you in the balls for $10?


images.sodahead.com
 
2014-01-28 10:21:16 PM
I don't care for Kanye what so ever, but I'll say I don't blame him for kicking this kid's ass, and he only had to pay $250,000. Yes, it sounds like a lot to you and me, but the guy is worth a shiat ton ($250 mil, just a guess). That would be like me paying $150 to get out of a speeding ticket. Kanye got his money's worth, and I bet he enjoyed it, and would do it again.
 
2014-01-28 10:22:17 PM
I don't even know why i bother getting up and working.
 
2014-01-28 10:25:44 PM

frepnog: f Kim was truly worried about the guy's words...  she would have called the police.  She did not.


And what would they have done? When they eventfully ambled over there? Her word against his. I'm no internet tough guy and I don't think Kenye should have beat him the way he did but there has to be a line and I'd be pissed if my girlfriend didn't call me if that happened to her.
 
2014-01-28 10:27:23 PM

Mugato: frepnog: f Kim was truly worried about the guy's words...  she would have called the police.  She did not.

And what would they have done? When they eventfully ambled over there? Her word against his. I'm no internet tough guy and I don't think Kenye should have beat him the way he did but there has to be a line and I'd be pissed if my girlfriend didn't call me if that happened to her.


Eeeeh...what he did was a little over the line.
 
2014-01-28 10:32:07 PM

Mugato: Her word against his.


not in any way, dude, and you know it.

multiple witnesses.

Mugato: but there has to be a line


there is, and that line is "you don't premeditate violence".

Mugato: I'd be pissed if my girlfriend didn't call me if that happened to her.


I'd be pissed too.  And even more pissed that she called ME before the cops.  Because I can do nothing in public about it that doesn't leave me liable.

Jesus Christ, dude, Kanye could have made the guy VANISH if he wanted.  he is rich and powerful enough that the kid could have been regretting ever having been yanked from his momma's crotch.
 
2014-01-28 11:16:47 PM

frepnog: Mugato: frepnog: you know what you do when calls your wife bad words and threatens her with death, all while being as threatening as a yard squirrel?

You call the police, make a report, have them arrested, detained, charged, and if possible imprisoned, and then you look at them behind the bars of their own making and ask "was it worth your freedom?"

And while you're waiting for the police to arrive and the person tries to make good on his threats, are you confident that you can make it home to the jar on your wife's nightstand, grab your balls, return to the scene and do something the about it in time?

If Kim was truly worried about the guy's words...  she would have called the police.  She did not.


You went from generalizations back to this specific case when you were questioned about your generalizations.

Balls?  It takes balls to live in modern society and not act like a cave man, grunting and punching when someone says things you don't care for. obey an arbitrary social convention Violence is easy.  Acting like a grown up is apparently difficult.

FTFY. You come off as a huge pussy, btw,
 
2014-01-28 11:27:42 PM

Carousel Beast: FTFY. You come off as a huge pussy, btw,


because I don't advocate the premeditated beating of a person?

that's nice.

what would jesus do?

we have a civilized society because on the whole, we have agreed as a populace that taking the law into one's own hands is wrong and rarely leads to anything good.

what if that kid had a gun and shot kanye, Zimmerman style?

and got off because he was attacked, on the ground, and being beaten?

YOU DON'T GO AROUND ATTACKING PEOPLE.  PERIOD.
 
2014-01-28 11:35:32 PM

frepnog: Carousel Beast: FTFY. You come off as a huge pussy, btw,

because I don't advocate the premeditated beating of a person?

that's nice.

what would jesus do?

we have a civilized society because on the whole, we have agreed as a populace that taking the law into one's own hands is wrong and rarely leads to anything good.

what if that kid had a gun and shot kanye, Zimmerman style?

and got off because he was attacked, on the ground, and being beaten?

YOU DON'T GO AROUND ATTACKING PEOPLE.  PERIOD.


This.
 
2014-01-28 11:48:44 PM

Mugato: I just explained that the kid made a death threat to the cow. That is not covered under free speech.
/jesus people, read a post once in a while


A death threat? I'd kick his ass myself, not call my boyfriend.
 
2014-01-28 11:54:02 PM

Mugato: And what would they have done? When they eventfully ambled over there?


Dude, victim is a rich person who is on the teevee. I'm gonna hazard a guess that they'd treat the situation more seriously than if you or I were involved.
 
2014-01-29 12:08:03 AM

frepnog: EdgeRunner: Racial slurs are pretty broad salvos to go firing off in public. If you think plenty of other people aren't going to be pissed at this loser, you need to get out more.

lol.  you make me laugh.  you and all people that say shiat like this - because it makes you WORSE than the kid that said the original shiat.

because it makes you weak minded.  you are able to be manipulated by a young man with dumb words in his mouth.  you and kanye need to grow the fark up.


You didn't comprehend word one of what I said, and there's no point holding your hand and walking you through it. You're either a very dedicated troll, or you're too stupid to understand that making yourself nationally known as an angry racist, especially one who profits from your racism, might just get you singled out on the street by people who don't like your attitude.

i am pretty damned intelligent -

Citation needed.

I do not yell racist slurs at women, nor do I truly become angry at those that do - because words do not harm me.

you know what you do when calls your wife bad words and threatens her with death, all while being as threatening as a yard squirrel?

You call the police, make a report, have them arrested, detained, charged, and if possible imprisoned, and then you look at them behind the bars of their own making and ask "was it worth your freedom?"


And we're all very proud of your restraint, I'm sure, but Kanye's overreaction has jack all to do with what the kid did to provoke the issue in the first place. If he mouthed off to some other nobody in a private place, they would have settled their differences however they saw fit and that would be the end of it. But this braintrust shouted down a celebrity while she was surrounded by paparazzi, guaranteeing he'd make the national news and have his face plastered all over the Internet. Your inability to grasp the stupidity of that doesn't change the fact that this clown may as well have tattooed "Hit me, I'm a racist" on his forehead.

In case you hadn't noticed, very few people are saying Kanye did the right thing, or that he isn't equally stupid for getting played so hard. But there's still a big difference between the two: Kanye attacked an individual. Dumbass kid insulted an entire demographic. That's never a good gamble.
 
2014-01-29 12:22:44 AM

EdgeRunner: But this braintrust shouted down a celebrity while she was surrounded by paparazzi, guaranteeing he'd make the national news and have his face plastered all over the Internet. Your inability to grasp the stupidity of that doesn't change the fact that this clown may as well have tattooed "Hit me, I'm a racist" on his forehead.

In case you hadn't noticed, very few people are saying Kanye did the right thing, or that he isn't equally stupid for getting played so hard. But there's still a big difference between the two: Kanye attacked an individual. Dumbass kid insulted an entire demographic. That's never a good gamble.


250 thousand dollars is a pretty good gamble.

The guy played them both like a cheap violin - and also gets you to make apologies for kanye's behavior.

Meanwhile the guy in question is in no trouble, and will collect a massive payday.

Who was the dumbass, again?
 
2014-01-29 12:33:53 AM
So? Id let kanye douche kick my ass for 250k. Its not like the world will change its opinion on him.
 
2014-01-29 12:38:25 AM
Anyone think this might be set up and totally fake?
 
2014-01-29 12:39:01 AM
It smells like fish sticks.
 
2014-01-29 12:44:51 AM

frepnog: EdgeRunner: But this braintrust shouted down a celebrity while she was surrounded by paparazzi, guaranteeing he'd make the national news and have his face plastered all over the Internet. Your inability to grasp the stupidity of that doesn't change the fact that this clown may as well have tattooed "Hit me, I'm a racist" on his forehead.

In case you hadn't noticed, very few people are saying Kanye did the right thing, or that he isn't equally stupid for getting played so hard. But there's still a big difference between the two: Kanye attacked an individual. Dumbass kid insulted an entire demographic. That's never a good gamble.

250 thousand dollars is a pretty good gamble.

The guy played them both like a cheap violin - and also gets you to make apologies for kanye's behavior.

Meanwhile the guy in question is in no trouble, and will collect a massive payday.

Who was the dumbass, again?


Still you, apparently.
 
2014-01-29 12:47:20 AM

farkingismybusiness: Anyone think this might be set up and totally fake?


Naw, I think it's for real, since both of them come out looking like assholes. And there's plenty of people in the world who are stupid and crazy enough to harass celebrities right in front of everybody.
 
2014-01-29 12:55:34 AM

cryinoutloud: A death threat? I'd kick his ass myself, not call my boyfriend.


Sure you would, you ignorant fark.
 
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