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(The Raw Story)   At last night's debate for GOP gubernatorial candidates in TX, all four candidates re-affirmed their strong pro-zombie stances, saying a brain dead woman should have been kept alive until she delivered her deformed fetus   (rawstory.com) divider line 144
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2014-01-28 04:22:56 PM

KatjaMouse: mrshowrules: BizarreMan: "We should always err on the side of life, and in this case there was an unborn child which was past the 20-week statutory limit on abortions," said Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson. "So I'm not sure who was the right case here, but I would always err on the side of life.

What about the 14 week old unborn child which is what it was when the mother died?

Maybe he thinks dead woman should be kept alive as long as there is a chance the night janitor could fertilize one of her eggs.  Err on the side of life.

I'm thinking that most Republicans read the Handmaid's Tale and saw it more as a social proposal than a dystopic horror.


Republicans look at A Handmaid's Tale in the same way Jeffrey Dahmer looked at A Modest Proposal.

/These moralizing assholes are monsters and the husband should sue them into the farking ground for putting her family through that sort of hell.
 
2014-01-28 04:24:28 PM

UrukHaiGuyz: Problem with using Descartes to argue anything is that he was completely wrong all the time. He's sort of the Bill Kristol of philosophy.

Which is why a good intro to philosophy class will cover him in the intro. Sometimes you gotta put Descartes before the course.


Cogito ergo groan
 
2014-01-28 04:27:41 PM
Heh... This is what happens when you're proudly ignorant and blinded by a farked up ideology.
 
2014-01-28 04:28:40 PM

phenn: Magorn: phenn: Blues_X: Big conservative government should be involved in all of your personal, painful medical decisions.

Could have been avoided if the mother had an advanced directive. I'm not sure how the guardianship laws work in Texas, but I would assume the husband is the guardian. If you want certain types of care continued under certain circumstances, honestly, you need to spell it out these days.

Works the same way for unwanted intervention - as I'm sure everyone knows.

She HAD ONE.  The hospital refused to honor it however saying State law forbids withdrawal of life support from a preganant woman and that her Advanced Directive was meaningless

Holy shiat, is that a fact?!

Okay, then the state acted absolutely improperly, in this case and in my opinion.

Your body belongs to you. What if she had one that stated she wanted intervention and the laws interfered with access to that?

Texas is quite FUBAR. President Bush (whilst governor) signed into law a bill that would allow hospitals to NOT honor your advanced directive if they (their 'ethics committees') determined such care was futile.

Does that state actually give a fark about life or are they just trying to enforce what THEY think is a right to life.

Either way, too farked up for my sensibilities.


I have always wondered how he got a pass from "pro-lifers" on that one and why it never came up when he was posturing during the Terry Schaivo mess.   I wonder what the people screaming about "death panels" would say if they realized the Bush actually created one in Texas.

I also think the family would have a decent tort case for assault  and battery for continuing to treat the woman when it was clear that she and her proxies did not consent to continued treatment
 
2014-01-28 04:33:04 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: coeyagi: Zarquon's Flat Tire: menschenfresser: Just get rid of the potato states already. This derp-derp imaginationland nonsense is beyond being a joke now.

Y'all just be ready to offer political asylum to quite a few of us. But we're bringing the BBQ recipes with us, so I'm sure we'll be welcomed with open arms.

Um, you realize there are plenty of southerners who moved North?  I don't think the North has the inability to have good BBQ, it just doesn't have the desire to make it every other restaurant.

You guys grill and put barbecue sauce on it. It's tasty, and cute.

I'm just saying some of us are sane and would defect. And we know how to make the slow-cooked whole pig kind of barbecue.


Come on up, but again, we have people who know what vinegar is.
 
2014-01-28 04:38:01 PM

Diogenes: UrukHaiGuyz: Problem with using Descartes to argue anything is that he was completely wrong all the time. He's sort of the Bill Kristol of philosophy.

Which is why a good intro to philosophy class will cover him in the intro. Sometimes you gotta put Descartes before the course.

Cogito ergo groan


Thought it went under the radar, cheers!

/and profuse apologies :)
 
2014-01-28 04:40:16 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: menschenfresser: Just get rid of the potato states already. This derp-derp imaginationland nonsense is beyond being a joke now.

Y'all just be ready to offer political asylum to quite a few of us. But we're bringing the BBQ recipes with us, so I'm sure we'll be welcomed with open arms.


If you need recipe, it's not BBQ
 
2014-01-28 04:46:32 PM

cretinbob: Zarquon's Flat Tire: menschenfresser: Just get rid of the potato states already. This derp-derp imaginationland nonsense is beyond being a joke now.

Y'all just be ready to offer political asylum to quite a few of us. But we're bringing the BBQ recipes with us, so I'm sure we'll be welcomed with open arms.

If you need recipe, it's not BBQ


THANK YOU!

For gods sakes people if you are using more than 3 seasons then your cooking, not BBQing.  The most important ingredients are smoke and time.   Its technique, not secret family spices.  This aint yankee fodder.
 
2014-01-28 04:49:24 PM
The GOP are so obsessed with abortion that they could have confirmation a woman was pregnant with the AntiChrist and wanted to abort and they would force her to term.

/not that they don't want Armageddon to start to begin with.
 
2014-01-28 04:52:52 PM

phenn: Magorn: phenn: Blues_X: Big conservative government should be involved in all of your personal, painful medical decisions.

Could have been avoided if the mother had an advanced directive. I'm not sure how the guardianship laws work in Texas, but I would assume the husband is the guardian. If you want certain types of care continued under certain circumstances, honestly, you need to spell it out these days.

Works the same way for unwanted intervention - as I'm sure everyone knows.

She HAD ONE.  The hospital refused to honor it however saying State law forbids withdrawal of life support from a preganant woman and that her Advanced Directive was meaningless

Holy shiat, is that a fact?!

Okay, then the state acted absolutely improperly, in this case and in my opinion.

Your body belongs to you. What if she had one that stated she wanted intervention and the laws interfered with access to that?

Texas is quite FUBAR. President Bush (whilst governor) signed into law a bill that would allow hospitals to NOT honor your advanced directive if they (their 'ethics committees') determined such care was futile.

Does that state actually give a fark about life or are they just trying to enforce what THEY think is a right to life.

Either way, too farked up for my sensibilities.


How did you not already know this?  This is "small government" in action.  A power vacuum is created and filled with Jesus Juice.  A government so small it fits in your pants.
 
2014-01-28 04:56:33 PM

Magorn: I have always wondered how he got a pass from "pro-lifers" on that one and why it never came up when he was posturing during the Terry Schaivo mess. I wonder what the people screaming about "death panels" would say if they realized the Bush actually created one in Texas.


As with most things, conveniently absent from the discourse.

When Terri was dying, another girl in Texas was the center of a case. Forgive me, but I cannot recall her name at the moment. In any event, the family wished to continue treatment (this is a minor we're discussing) and the hospital did not. Nor did they want to allow the family to get her moved. I do believe the young girl died in the process.

Mr. Bush made that happen - along with the 'pro-life' legislative body in Texas.

I honestly think that, if the 'state' values human life, they will stay the fark out of it. Back to what I said earlier: Your body belongs to you.
 
2014-01-28 04:58:35 PM

orclover: cretinbob: Zarquon's Flat Tire: menschenfresser: Just get rid of the potato states already. This derp-derp imaginationland nonsense is beyond being a joke now.

Y'all just be ready to offer political asylum to quite a few of us. But we're bringing the BBQ recipes with us, so I'm sure we'll be welcomed with open arms.

If you need recipe, it's not BBQ

THANK YOU!

For gods sakes people if you are using more than 3 seasons then your cooking, not BBQing.  The most important ingredients are smoke and time.   Its technique, not secret family spices.  This aint yankee fodder.


I hate to say this, but I prefer nearly every other method of making meat edible to BBQ. I like grilling because I can create delicious vegetable, fruit or meats using my grill, and also my grill is about the size of my cat, which is perfect for my apartment. I can still only use it when it's warm enough that I don't want to kill someone when I go outside.

I'm glad that this poor woman, who has been dead since before Thanksgiving, and her family can finally rest a little bit. Not that the woman noticed anything.
 
2014-01-28 05:00:16 PM

Deucednuisance: Lord_Baull: Ask her why an omniscient god would need to devise a test.

Hell, ask Job that one.

/He did get a lifetime supply of salt out of the deal, though...


You're thinking of Lot.
 
2014-01-28 05:00:45 PM

Selena Luna: orclover: cretinbob: Zarquon's Flat Tire: menschenfresser: Just get rid of the potato states already. This derp-derp imaginationland nonsense is beyond being a joke now.

Y'all just be ready to offer political asylum to quite a few of us. But we're bringing the BBQ recipes with us, so I'm sure we'll be welcomed with open arms.

If you need recipe, it's not BBQ

THANK YOU!

For gods sakes people if you are using more than 3 seasons then your cooking, not BBQing.  The most important ingredients are smoke and time.   Its technique, not secret family spices.  This aint yankee fodder.

I hate to say this, but I prefer nearly every other method of making meat edible to BBQ. I like grilling because I can create delicious vegetable, fruit or meats using my grill, and also my grill is about the size of my cat, which is perfect for my apartment when I want to grill my cat.

 
2014-01-28 05:03:25 PM

phenn: Magorn: I have always wondered how he got a pass from "pro-lifers" on that one and why it never came up when he was posturing during the Terry Schaivo mess. I wonder what the people screaming about "death panels" would say if they realized the Bush actually created one in Texas.

As with most things, conveniently absent from the discourse.

When Terri was dying, another girl in Texas was the center of a case. Forgive me, but I cannot recall her name at the moment. In any event, the family wished to continue treatment (this is a minor we're discussing) and the hospital did not. Nor did they want to allow the family to get her moved. I do believe the young girl died in the process.

Mr. Bush made that happen - along with the 'pro-life' legislative body in Texas.

I honestly think that, if the 'state' values human life, they will stay the fark out of it. Back to what I said earlier: Your body belongs to you.


As I recall, the child in Texas was not white, so allowing the child to die was acceptable.
 
2014-01-28 05:11:50 PM
Love the "government shouldn't make your healthcare choices" Republicans.
 
2014-01-28 05:30:04 PM

UrukHaiGuyz: Selena Luna: orclover: cretinbob: Zarquon's Flat Tire: menschenfresser: Just get rid of the potato states already. This derp-derp imaginationland nonsense is beyond being a joke now.

Y'all just be ready to offer political asylum to quite a few of us. But we're bringing the BBQ recipes with us, so I'm sure we'll be welcomed with open arms.

If you need recipe, it's not BBQ

THANK YOU!

For gods sakes people if you are using more than 3 seasons then your cooking, not BBQing.  The most important ingredients are smoke and time.   Its technique, not secret family spices.  This aint yankee fodder.

I hate to say this, but I prefer nearly every other method of making meat edible to BBQ. I like grilling because I can create delicious vegetable, fruit or meats using my grill, and also my grill is about the size of my cat, which is perfect for my apartment when I want to grill my cat.


To be fair i'm a smoker not a griller.
i153.photobucket.com
Good fer about 50 or 60 cats at a time depending on size.
 
2014-01-28 05:41:47 PM
Do people who are brain dead but on a ventilator come back as zombies? Or do you have to pull the plug first? This question has been bugging me for a while.
 
2014-01-28 05:43:13 PM

fusillade762: Do people who are brain dead but on a ventilator come back as zombies? Or do you have to pull the plug first? This question has been bugging me for a while.


As the brain of a brain dead individual has died and will liquefy relatively quickly, reanimation of such a corpse is extremely unlikely.
 
2014-01-28 05:43:17 PM

phenn: Magorn: I have always wondered how he got a pass from "pro-lifers" on that one and why it never came up when he was posturing during the Terry Schaivo mess. I wonder what the people screaming about "death panels" would say if they realized the Bush actually created one in Texas.

As with most things, conveniently absent from the discourse.

When Terri was dying, another girl in Texas was the center of a case. Forgive me, but I cannot recall her name at the moment. In any event, the family wished to continue treatment (this is a minor we're discussing) and the hospital did not. Nor did they want to allow the family to get her moved. I do believe the young girl died in the process.

Mr. Bush made that happen - along with the 'pro-life' legislative body in Texas.

I honestly think that, if the 'state' values human life, they will stay the fark out of it. Back to what I said earlier: Your body belongs to you.


I'm pretty sure that family didn't have money, which is what made her different than Schiavo.  At the time people did comment on the difference.  The hospital basically refused treatment because the family couldn't pay.
 
2014-01-28 05:45:16 PM
A 'dead woman kept alive for fetus' thread morphs into BBQ discussion....

....I'mOKwiththis.jpg

/only on fark
 
2014-01-28 05:47:53 PM

Flatulent_Flea: A 'dead woman kept alive for fetus' thread morphs into BBQ discussion....

....I'mOKwiththis.jpg

/only on fark


I'm just amazed we got this far in the thread without anyone posting pictures of trophy cases on pianos.
 
2014-01-28 05:50:00 PM

Dimensio: fusillade762: Do people who are brain dead but on a ventilator come back as zombies? Or do you have to pull the plug first? This question has been bugging me for a while.

As the brain of a brain dead individual has died and will liquefy relatively quickly, reanimation of such a corpse is extremely unlikely.


I would think that they would come back as zombies before the ventilator is pulled. They would probably pull it themselves.  Maybe drag it along.   Zombiefication seems to take place more with brain death than body death.  So she would have come back shortly after her trip to the hospital.  Before her brain had a chance to liquefy.
 
2014-01-28 06:28:44 PM
Yet these farktards will willingly deny healthcare or any assistance once the child was born.
 
2014-01-28 06:31:06 PM
All the "conservatives" on Fark are self loathing poors.
i18.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-28 06:36:48 PM
So, I use to think that the most horrifying thing I could imagine happening to myself or a family member would involve some kind of traumatic brain injury.

Now I have competition for first place.  This - the idea that under state law my wife or other loved one could be forcibly kept on life support, past the point of brain death, so that they could carry to term a heavily deformed fetus, which would likely, maybe even hopefully, die during or shortly after child birth - this is horror movie material.  I would be in therapy for life if I had to deal with that shiat.

So now Texas Republicans are saying the nightmare scenario above is what they actually intended and wanted to happen?
 
2014-01-28 06:41:14 PM

Nuuu: So, I use to think that the most horrifying thing I could imagine happening to myself or a family member would involve some kind of traumatic brain injury.

Now I have competition for first place.  This - the idea that under state law my wife or other loved one could be forcibly kept on life support, past the point of brain death, so that they could carry to term a heavily deformed fetus, which would likely, maybe even hopefully, die during or shortly after child birth - this is horror movie material.  I would be in therapy for life if I had to deal with that shiat.

So now Texas Republicans are saying the nightmare scenario above is what they actually intended and wanted to happen?


Your scenario is not a complete representation of what "pro-life" Republican activists desire.

They also wish for you to be burdened with the substantial costs for the medical "care" provided to the corpse of your loved one for the duration of the fetus's gestation.
 
2014-01-28 06:42:38 PM

ParallelUniverseParking: Texas' Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson:"We should always err on the side of life."[img.fark.net image 225x224]
Riiight...


Cushions and a pillow? What the fark? You're killing someone, not giving them a handjob!
 
2014-01-28 06:44:38 PM

Lord_Baull: Walosi: Diogenes: "When it comes to creationism, not only should it be taught, it should be triumphed (and) it should be heralded," Patrick said.

Rich on fossil fuels and in complete disbelief as to where they come from.

My fundie SIL says dinosaur bones were put in the ground to test our (her) faith

/eyeroll


Ask her why an omniscient god would need to devise a test.


People would rather beleive that their God is a lying bastard then entertain the idea that their beliefs are false.
 
2014-01-28 07:05:11 PM
phenn:   Could have been avoided if the mother had an advanced directive. I'm not sure how the guardianship laws work in Texas, but I would assume the husband is the guardian.


Last line of Texas Advance Directive form, right above your signature:

"I understand that under Texas law this directive has no effect if I have been diagnosed as pregnant."

NOT avoiding the Texas Advance Directive by actually signing the document serves as written consent for the state to VOID the entire contract and take control if you're pregnant.

As far as guardianship, when a spouse dies the surviving spouse is granted legal and medical power of attorney just like everywhere else.
 
2014-01-28 07:05:14 PM

Lord_Baull: All four Republican candidates for Texas lieutenant governor agreed that state law should prevent families from removing brain dead women and their badly deformed fetuses from life support.

Or as we call it, "increasing the voter base."


And, all of them are going against even the state of Texas, which stated that this law wasn't made for cases like this...though they damn well should have known some "pro-life" nut would use it for it.
 
2014-01-28 07:18:43 PM
Did it seem at all creepy that each and every candidate bragged with the exact same words how the four most-powerful 'pro-life' groups gave them A's for their 'pro-life' words and deeds?

Did it seem at all financially motivated that each and every candidate parroted verbatim the 'pro-life' script??

Did it seem at all reprehensible that each and every candidate pretended their beliefs are actually their own and not that of the 'pro-life' groups who sign their campaign contributions???


I would have puked while watching this debate-of-the-snakes, but simply could not find a vomitorium large enough.
 
2014-01-28 07:29:13 PM

abb3w: BizarreMan: We should always err on the side of life

Does that mean Patterson supports abolishing the death penalty in favor of life imprisonment? Or does he deny that Texas has ever erred by convicting and executing someone who was innocent?

Marcus Aurelius: Not to mention all the people on death row. He still wants them dead, and very badly, I take it.

Ah. So much for hoping for logical consistency from a Texas politician.


Anyone on death row must be guilty of something. Sure, maybe one or two didn't commit the specific crime they were executed for, but good, upstanding Christians don't get convicted of capital crimes.
 
2014-01-28 07:32:02 PM
And really, who HASN'T thought that lobotomizing women and turning them into baby factorys was a good idea!

/ You know who you are...
 
2014-01-28 07:39:20 PM

what_now: somedude210: If Wendy Davis can't win against one of these retards, our country is boned.


She won't win. Texas isn't ready for a Democratic Governor and she doesn't have the ground game.  Texas will go blue, eventually.


Texas Monthly has already called it, that no way Davis can win and Texas won't go blue for another decade.

Since Texas is so thumbs-up for dead women on life-support, I say we dig up Ann Richards and put her on a ventilator.  Even and perhaps especially as an angry zombie, Ann Richards would open a weapons-grade can of anti-tard whoopass on Texas so staggering that even Goober Gohmert couldn't shout over it.

Ann did not suffer fools gladly, but her real gift was charming them into thinking she did.
 
2014-01-28 07:39:52 PM
Like I said. There was never going to be a happy ending to that story.
At least these guys didn't get their way, though.
 
2014-01-28 07:57:38 PM

Tigger: Diogenes: Lord_Baull: Tigger: Lord_Baull: Walosi: Diogenes: "When it comes to creationism, not only should it be taught, it should be triumphed (and) it should be heralded," Patrick said.

Rich on fossil fuels and in complete disbelief as to where they come from.

My fundie SIL says dinosaur bones were put in the ground to test our (her) faith

/eyeroll


Ask her why an omniscient god would need to devise a test.

The response will be 'ineffable plan'


So, the response to that will be, "God must be a real asshole to devise a test we cannot know, yet must not fail."

Straight from the philosophy of Descartes.

Problem with using Descartes to argue anything is that he was completely wrong all the time. He's sort of the Bill Kristol of philosophy.


He was also a drunken fart.

/hopefully not obscure
 
2014-01-28 08:05:04 PM

Crusader: Insure that likely brain damaged child is born = good
Insure that likely brain damaged child has social programs and funding to help = SOCIALOBAMACARE!!1!1!!

Is that how this goes?


That fetus wasn't brain damaged. From all I've read, doctors said it had no brain tissue, only a blob of liquid where it's brain was supposed to be. Every doctor that examined this case said that the deformities were not compatible with life. Basically, it would have been born dead. But the hospital and these candidates wanted to put an already suffering family through that because Jesus or something.
 
2014-01-28 08:05:27 PM

meat0918: I've tried to give a fark about this, but really, this is a decision between the doctors and her husband, and now unfortunately the courts because the hospital would not follow the families instructions.  Damn the media in this country, and damn those that are fueling it by consuming it (myself not exempt from that condemnation).

Hopefully more people will have those end of life instructions ready, and if you're a women consider you might be pregnant and brain dead at the same time.


Um, she did

coeyagi: the_vegetarian_cannibal: Walosi: Diogenes: "When it comes to creationism, not only should it be taught, it should be triumphed (and) it should be heralded," Patrick said.

Rich on fossil fuels and in complete disbelief as to where they come from.

My fundie SIL says dinosaur bones were put in the ground to test our (her) faith

/eyeroll

Wait, there are people who still seriously believe that?

I thought that was just a joke amongst liberals to make fun of fundies by exaggerating their beliefs.

That may have been true, and then some retard thought the libs were serious and believed it.


A little sketch about the subject (borderline NSFW)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlqDu2cDT0A
 
2014-01-28 08:06:27 PM
Damn formatting.
 
2014-01-28 10:15:40 PM

coeyagi: I honestly believe we should have a five year plan to split this country up.  Not sure how the coasts are going to remain together - maybe we need to have a little trail connecting them via the least derpy states in the middle.

At any rate, it's beyond sad that we have certain morons trying to dictate morality as their sole legislative agenda, and the rest do not have the slightest f*cking clue how economics work.  Can you imagine if New York and the other metro areas were severed from the Red States of America?  We can find people to work in plants and on farms in the Blue States of America, good luck finding intellectuals to run your failed state, assholes


We can have a safe harbor in Colorado.

I don't know what the hell is wrong with people regarding this issue. I mean, IF the baby had somehow actually survived to be "born"--a big enough if right there--was the next step going to be to force the father to raise it? Who was going to devote the hundreds of thousands of dollars to the hideously deformed blob? Do these weirdos not even think beyond the next talking point?

.....okay, well, that answers that question, I guess.
 
2014-01-29 12:10:37 AM

orclover: UrukHaiGuyz: Selena Luna: orclover: cretinbob: Zarquon's Flat Tire: menschenfresser: Just get rid of the potato states already. This derp-derp imaginationland nonsense is beyond being a joke now.

Y'all just be ready to offer political asylum to quite a few of us. But we're bringing the BBQ recipes with us, so I'm sure we'll be welcomed with open arms.

If you need recipe, it's not BBQ

THANK YOU!

For gods sakes people if you are using more than 3 seasons then your cooking, not BBQing.  The most important ingredients are smoke and time.   Its technique, not secret family spices.  This aint yankee fodder.

I hate to say this, but I prefer nearly every other method of making meat edible to BBQ. I like grilling because I can create delicious vegetable, fruit or meats using my grill, and also my grill is about the size of my cat, which is perfect for my apartment when I want to grill my cat.

To be fair i'm a smoker not a griller.
[i153.photobucket.com image 850x508]
Good fer about 50 or 60 cats at a time depending on size.


That's quite a box........

I have a Brinkman like that that's 15 years old. Good heavy steel. I've looked at newer ones and they are thin crappy things that won't hold heat. I may go electric if I ever have to replace it.
 
2014-01-29 03:16:28 AM
Can you imagine?  One day, your wife is pregnant with your child, the next she has a freak medical issue and is brain dead.  Then, after the completely traumatic and terrible loss of your wife and unborn baby, the farking hospital insists that they need to keep her organs running against her explicit wishes because they have religious beliefs you don't have?

I hope this guy sues them into the ground.  He should own that farking hospital when this is all said and done.
 
2014-01-29 03:49:54 AM
I am not showing this grotesque nightmare to my Finns, no frakkin way.
 
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