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(Detroit Free Press)   Mike Ditka to Roger Goodell: See that? That's your IQ buddy, zero   (freep.com) divider line 84
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2014-01-28 02:06:04 PM
"Dexter Manley has the IQ of a grapefruit."
 
2014-01-28 02:07:25 PM
"You're not going to be able to perform at near the level you're used to. And the element of luck comes into it, and it shouldn't happen in that game. That game should be based on the people on the field who make the plays. Also, which team provides their players with sausage pillows."

I don't mind requiring an indoor game but play it on natural turf.
 
WGJ
2014-01-28 02:08:06 PM
There won't be any fans at the game, they can't afford to go. It will be millionaire players on the field and millionaires in the stands. Let them be cold for a while.
 
2014-01-28 02:14:40 PM
This coming from the guy who traded all his draft picks for Ricky "Just one more toke" Williams?
 
2014-01-28 02:15:57 PM
wuts an IQ buddy lol
 
2014-01-28 02:19:49 PM
I think the Superb Owltm should be rotated through ALL of the NFL stadiums. It seems like New Orleans or Miami gets to host it every other year.
 
2014-01-28 02:23:01 PM

WGJ: There won't be any fans at the game, they can't afford to go. It will be millionaire players on the field and millionaires in the stands. Let them be cold for a while.


Not true - there are some actual fans who will basically be spending all their money to get there...and will get to be miserable the whole time, instead of just afterwards when they realize that now they're broke.
 
2014-01-28 02:24:02 PM
ah shadup ya jerk
 
2014-01-28 02:32:37 PM
Ditka annoys the fark out of me, but he's not wrong about this one.
 
2014-01-28 02:34:47 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: I don't mind requiring an indoor game but play it on natural turf.


The reason AstroturfTM was invented is that the grass wouldn't grow indoors.

The Texans have a retractable roof, with natural grass, (I think), but who wants to see  a Superb Owl in frickin' Houston?  There is nothing else to do.

Just stage it in New Orleans every year.  The hotel rooms are plenty adequate, there is generally fair weather, (for the fans walking around - it's always about 75 degrees in the 'Dome), and everything is within walking distance of the venue.


We're also a very welcoming city.  I'm looking at you, New York.
 
2014-01-28 02:36:11 PM
Ditka or Snownado?
 
2014-01-28 02:37:07 PM

Gunderson: This coming from the guy who traded all his draft picks for Ricky "Just one more toke" Williams?


We hate him in New Orleans.  Universally.
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Does this dress make my hands look small?
 
2014-01-28 02:39:06 PM

Gunderson: This coming from the guy who traded all his draft picks for Ricky "Just one more toke" Williams?


Much like 'Caddyshack 2', 'Rocky V' and 'Godfather Part III', Ditka coaching the Saints never happened.
 
2014-01-28 02:49:46 PM

Mell of a Hess: Just stage it in New Orleans every year.  The hotel rooms are plenty adequate, there is generally fair weather, (for the fans walking around - it's always about 75 degrees in the 'Dome), and everything is within walking distance of the venue.

We're also a very welcoming city.  I'm looking at you, New York.


That way, if the Saints make it to the Superb Owl, they get a home game, but no other team has that option? Sounds fair.

Better yet, why not here in Vegas. We have nice weather, plenty of hotel rooms, and a shiat-ton of stuff to do. We'd need to build a stadium, but all that requires is a bunch of money. And with no team here, this is a neutral site.
 
2014-01-28 02:54:33 PM
But, New Orleans playing at GB 2 weeks ago in the NFC championship game would have been perfectly acceptable.
 
2014-01-28 02:56:04 PM
As long as both teams are playing under the same conditions I honestly don't care if the use a warm weather field or a cold weather field or a practice field in Nebraska. If the tv cameras still work I am good to go. As far as actually getting to the game in tough conditions I really couldn't give two shiats if a bunch of nfl/tv/industry execs are inconvenienced for a few hours.
 
2014-01-28 02:58:03 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: Better yet, why not here in Vegas. We have nice weather, plenty of hotel rooms, and a shiat-ton of stuff to do. We'd need to build a stadium, but all that requires is a bunch of money. And with no team here, this is a neutral site.



Three words why it won't happen:

Legalized sports betting.
 
2014-01-28 03:03:01 PM
So instead you want to give indoor teams an advantage over outdoor teams? There will never be an equal playing field.  There is a reason that dome teams are almost unstoppable inside but crap outside.  Just like there is a reason that teams that play outdoors don't do very well indoors.  You will NEVER have an equal playing field.  The fairest solution would be to rotate so it goes   Dome > Cold weather stadium >  Warm weather outdoor stadium.  One team will almost always have the advantage because of location no matter where you play.
 
2014-01-28 03:06:31 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: Mell of a Hess: Just stage it in New Orleans every year.  The hotel rooms are plenty adequate, there is generally fair weather, (for the fans walking around - it's always about 75 degrees in the 'Dome), and everything is within walking distance of the venue.

We're also a very welcoming city.  I'm looking at you, New York.

That way, if the Saints make it to the Superb Owl, they get a home game, but no other team has that option? Sounds fair.

Better yet, why not here in Vegas. We have nice weather, plenty of hotel rooms, and a shiat-ton of stuff to do. We'd need to build a stadium, but all that requires is a bunch of money. And with no team here, this is a neutral site.


Just use Sam Boyd or one of the ballrooms at the Bellagio.
 
2014-01-28 03:11:21 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: Mell of a Hess: Just stage it in New Orleans every year.  The hotel rooms are plenty adequate, there is generally fair weather, (for the fans walking around - it's always about 75 degrees in the 'Dome), and everything is within walking distance of the venue.

We're also a very welcoming city.  I'm looking at you, New York.

That way, if the Saints make it to the Superb Owl, they get a home game, but no other team has that option? Sounds fair.

Better yet, why not here in Vegas. We have nice weather, plenty of hotel rooms, and a shiat-ton of stuff to do. We'd need to build a stadium, but all that requires is a bunch of money. And with no team here, this is a neutral site.



That would be awesome, but if you guys don't have an NFL team, what is the point in having a stadium like that?  (Besides that one Super Bowl.)
 
2014-01-28 03:12:46 PM
I think da coach is becoming a creme puff, as long as the conditions are the same for all involved what does it matter, all teams played in all sorts of conditions to get here.
 
2014-01-28 03:16:52 PM
Can we first play the freaking game and then pass on our critical judgments?
 
2014-01-28 03:19:00 PM

Mateorocks: Can we first play the freaking game and then pass on our critical judgments?



You sound new to Fark.
 
2014-01-28 03:23:28 PM

iron_city_ap: But, New Orleans playing at GB 2 weeks ago in the NFC championship game would have been perfectly acceptable.


This^

The_Sponge: Sin_City_Superhero: Mell of a Hess: Just stage it in New Orleans every year.  The hotel rooms are plenty adequate, there is generally fair weather, (for the fans walking around - it's always about 75 degrees in the 'Dome), and everything is within walking distance of the venue.

We're also a very welcoming city.  I'm looking at you, New York.

That way, if the Saints make it to the Superb Owl, they get a home game, but no other team has that option? Sounds fair.

Better yet, why not here in Vegas. We have nice weather, plenty of hotel rooms, and a shiat-ton of stuff to do. We'd need to build a stadium, but all that requires is a bunch of money. And with no team here, this is a neutral site.


That would be awesome, but if you guys don't have an NFL team, what is the point in having a stadium like that?  (Besides that one Super Bowl.)


Also IIRC Vegas get some major torrential rainstorms. Not sure how long they last or how often tho.

Fark 'em, give every city a spot in a rotation.  Why should a cold weather city like Chicago, Denver or Green Bay miss out on the financial bonus of hosting the game.
 
2014-01-28 03:23:36 PM

The_Sponge: Sin_City_Superhero: Mell of a Hess: Just stage it in New Orleans every year.  The hotel rooms are plenty adequate, there is generally fair weather, (for the fans walking around - it's always about 75 degrees in the 'Dome), and everything is within walking distance of the venue.

We're also a very welcoming city.  I'm looking at you, New York.

That way, if the Saints make it to the Superb Owl, they get a home game, but no other team has that option? Sounds fair.

Better yet, why not here in Vegas. We have nice weather, plenty of hotel rooms, and a shiat-ton of stuff to do. We'd need to build a stadium, but all that requires is a bunch of money. And with no team here, this is a neutral site.


That would be awesome, but if you guys don't have an NFL team, what is the point in having a stadium like that?  (Besides that one Super Bowl.)


We were talking about having it in the same place every year, so that would be enough reason, right there, but an NFL stadium can be used for concerts, shows, monster truck rallys, National Finals Rodeo, motorcross events, etc. Not to mention conventions, soccer matches, basketball tournaments, stuff like that. Trust me, Las Vegas has plenty of stuff going on...
 
2014-01-28 03:23:55 PM
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Oh, mother nature? Could you please lay some of this on northern New Jersey this Sunday evening?
 
2014-01-28 03:26:01 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: We were talking about having it in the same place every year, so that would be enough reason, right there, but an NFL stadium can be used for concerts, shows, monster truck rallys, National Finals Rodeo, motorcross events, etc. Not to mention conventions, soccer matches, basketball tournaments, stuff like that. Trust me, Las Vegas has plenty of stuff going on...



1) Got it.

2) So it would have to be an indoor stadium.

3) Need to go back...it's been 1 1/2 years.
 
2014-01-28 03:35:15 PM

Warlordtrooper: So instead you want to give indoor teams an advantage over outdoor teams? There will never be an equal playing field.  There is a reason that dome teams are almost unstoppable inside but crap outside.  Just like there is a reason that teams that play outdoors don't do very well indoors.  You will NEVER have an equal playing field.  The fairest solution would be to rotate so it goes   Dome > Cold weather stadium >  Warm weather outdoor stadium.  One team will almost always have the advantage because of location no matter where you play.


What does a dome prevent an outdoor team from doing?
 
2014-01-28 03:38:07 PM

buckeyebrain: Gunderson: This coming from the guy who traded all his draft picks for Ricky "Just one more toke" Williams?

Much like 'Caddyshack 2', 'Rocky V' and 'Godfather Part III', Ditka coaching the Saints never happened.


What the hell are those things? Next thing you're gonna say is that they made a second Highlander movie.
 
2014-01-28 03:45:19 PM

timswar: buckeyebrain: Gunderson: This coming from the guy who traded all his draft picks for Ricky "Just one more toke" Williams?

Much like 'Caddyshack 2', 'Rocky V' and 'Godfather Part III', Ditka coaching the Saints never happened.

What the hell are those things? Next thing you're gonna say is that they made a second Highlander movie.



Or Star Wars prequels.
 
2014-01-28 03:46:46 PM
timswar:    What the hell are those things? Next thing you're gonna say is that they made a second Highlander movie.

Well, the TV show was better than the movie.   Duncan is a better immortal than Connor.  Paul is a better actor than Lambert.  The movie did has Connery being awesome though.
 
2014-01-28 03:50:02 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: The_Sponge: Sin_City_Superhero: Mell of a Hess: Just stage it in New Orleans every year.  The hotel rooms are plenty adequate, there is generally fair weather, (for the fans walking around - it's always about 75 degrees in the 'Dome), and everything is within walking distance of the venue.

We're also a very welcoming city.  I'm looking at you, New York.

That way, if the Saints make it to the Superb Owl, they get a home game, but no other team has that option? Sounds fair.

Better yet, why not here in Vegas. We have nice weather, plenty of hotel rooms, and a shiat-ton of stuff to do. We'd need to build a stadium, but all that requires is a bunch of money. And with no team here, this is a neutral site.


That would be awesome, but if you guys don't have an NFL team, what is the point in having a stadium like that?  (Besides that one Super Bowl.)

We were talking about having it in the same place every year, so that would be enough reason, right there, but an NFL stadium can be used for concerts, shows, monster truck rallys, National Finals Rodeo, motorcross events, etc. Not to mention conventions, soccer matches, basketball tournaments, stuff like that. Trust me, Las Vegas has plenty of stuff going on...


The powers that be at Sam Boyd (and other venues) would make major rain about this, I think...and the NFR is already in the discussions to move their event to Florida (really, Florida? yes)...Not that I care (or that my opinion matters), but I do think a SB in Vegas would be a phenomenal success, but I just don't see them investing that kind of dough for a facility when there is no dearth of similar facilities already.
 
2014-01-28 03:59:29 PM
All of this talk about a Super Bowl in Vegas, and it's never, ever going to happen in a million years.  NBC couldn't even use a Super Bowl ad to promote 'Las Vegas' (the James Caan series) a few years ago, per NFL edict.
 
2014-01-28 04:04:39 PM
This superbowl is going to be a hilarious disaster. I can't wait.
 
2014-01-28 04:06:31 PM

IAmRight: WGJ: There won't be any fans at the game, they can't afford to go. It will be millionaire players on the field and millionaires in the stands. Let them be cold for a while.

Not true - there are some actual fans who will basically be spending all their money to get there...and will get to be miserable the whole time, instead of just afterwards when they realize that now they're broke.


Hey man, a few threads ago you were urging me to go. (Still might -- prices have come down -- but still leaning "no.")

Any other Farkers planning on being there?
 
2014-01-28 04:10:05 PM

IAmRight: Warlordtrooper: So instead you want to give indoor teams an advantage over outdoor teams? There will never be an equal playing field.  There is a reason that dome teams are almost unstoppable inside but crap outside.  Just like there is a reason that teams that play outdoors don't do very well indoors.  You will NEVER have an equal playing field.  The fairest solution would be to rotate so it goes   Dome > Cold weather stadium >  Warm weather outdoor stadium.  One team will almost always have the advantage because of location no matter where you play.

What does a dome prevent an outdoor team from doing?


A team that plays in a dome will enjoy an advantage over a team who doesn't play in a dome.
 
2014-01-28 04:11:09 PM
Damn Ditka is bitter.
 
2014-01-28 04:11:18 PM

WGJ: There won't be any fans at the game, they can't afford to go. It will be millionaire players on the field and millionaires in the stands. Let them be cold for a while.


So it will be like the NBA?
 
2014-01-28 04:13:53 PM

Warlordtrooper: IAmRight: Warlordtrooper: So instead you want to give indoor teams an advantage over outdoor teams? There will never be an equal playing field.  There is a reason that dome teams are almost unstoppable inside but crap outside.  Just like there is a reason that teams that play outdoors don't do very well indoors.  You will NEVER have an equal playing field.  The fairest solution would be to rotate so it goes   Dome > Cold weather stadium >  Warm weather outdoor stadium.  One team will almost always have the advantage because of location no matter where you play.

What does a dome prevent an outdoor team from doing?

A team that plays in a dome will enjoy an advantage over a team who doesn't play in a dome.


I don't see how that isn't obvious.  If the going theory is that weather gives an outdoor team an advantage over a dome team, then the opposite must necessarily be true.
 
2014-01-28 04:16:01 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: I think the Superb Owltm should be rotated through ALL of the NFL stadiums. It seems like New Orleans or Miami gets to host it every other year.


Remember the year it was held in Jacksonville?  They simply didn't have enough hotel rooms, and had to put people on a couple of cruise ships.  They're not going back, nor will they ever go to Green Bay, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, or Kansas City for those reasons.

buckeyebrain: All of this talk about a Super Bowl in Vegas, and it's never, ever going to happen in a million years.


London will host a Super Bowl before Vegas does.  Gambling is the dirty secret of the NFL - there's tons of money put on every game, but the league wants no part of being associated with it.  And if Tim Donaghy had been arrested six months earlier, the NBA would have never played that All-Star Game in Vegas.
 
2014-01-28 04:16:56 PM

Warlordtrooper: A team that plays in a dome will enjoy an advantage over a team who doesn't play in a dome.


What advantage is that, exactly? Because there's zero data to support your argument. There's also zero common sense that would support such an argument.

Super Chronic: Hey man, a few threads ago you were urging me to go.


Hey, I'd go if I were still single, but alas, I went to the NFCCG instead, since that's only a 9-hour round trip and I had a connect so I could get a ticket for $250. If I win the Richard Sherman tickets thing, though, I'll go!

Someone in another thread said they won the Russell Wilson promo pair.
 
2014-01-28 04:19:18 PM

AdmirableSnackbar: I don't see how that isn't obvious.  If the going theory is that weather gives an outdoor team an advantage over a dome team, then the opposite must necessarily be true.


What, do outdoor teams not bother fielding secondaries because of the couple games per year where it's cold outside? And no, the opposite doesn't necessarily have to be true. No one claims that a nice sunny day outside gives the outdoor team an advantage.

Sh*tty weather can take out a part of an offense through no effort of the defense.

Perfect conditions take nothing away from either team.
 
2014-01-28 04:22:01 PM

IAmRight: Warlordtrooper: A team that plays in a dome will enjoy an advantage over a team who doesn't play in a dome.

What advantage is that, exactly? Because there's zero data to support your argument. There's also zero common sense that would support such an argument.


What about the common sense that indoor teams will structure their personnel and their schemes to better utilize the perfect weather they know they will play in at least half of the season?
 
2014-01-28 04:23:40 PM
Ditka loves to run the ball and hard nose defenses.  What's not to like about Bear Weather in the Super Bowl?
 
2014-01-28 04:26:54 PM

Rhypskallion: timswar:    What the hell are those things? Next thing you're gonna say is that they made a second Highlander movie.

Well, the TV show was better than the movie.   Duncan is a better immortal than Connor.  Paul is a better actor than Lambert.  The movie did has Connery being awesome though.


p>
TV show was good, but Clancy Brown made the movie IMHO and thus the movie will always rank higher than the show

/To me anyhow
//That's all that matters
///SB VI was played in 39F weather so there's already a cold weather SB precedent
 
2014-01-28 04:27:38 PM

The Most Uninteresting Man in the World: Ditka loves to run the ball and hard nose defenses.  What's not to like about Bear Weather in the Super Bowl?


Ditka is the Larry Coker of the NFL.
 
2014-01-28 04:40:05 PM
Let's just check the weather in New Orleans today...eek.

Ok, ok, but this weekend it's supposed to be...oh, dear.
 
2014-01-28 04:42:45 PM

abhorrent1: This superbowl is going to be a hilarious disaster. I can't wait.


Care to elaborate?
 
2014-01-28 04:43:08 PM

IAmRight: Warlordtrooper: A team that plays in a dome will enjoy an advantage over a team who doesn't play in a dome.

What advantage is that, exactly? Because there's zero data to support your argument. There's also zero common sense that would support such an argument.

Super Chronic: Hey man, a few threads ago you were urging me to go.

Hey, I'd go if I were still single, but alas, I went to the NFCCG instead, since that's only a 9-hour round trip and I had a connect so I could get a ticket for $250. If I win the Richard Sherman tickets thing, though, I'll go!


Therein lies the rub, in part. I would also have to buy two of everything. And worry about someone's comfort other than my own, which adds to the stress factor.

I said before that it's not about the money, but it sort of is. It's the money plus the weather plus the transit clusterfark plus the fact that the other people there will be mostly corporate stiffs who don't know how to enjoy a game. Any one or two of those factors and I might still try to pull it out, but in combination....

Anyway, secondary market ticket prices have dropped significantly since last week (though they seem to have ticked up today); if prices crash at the end then maybe I'll swoop in, and otherwise it probably wasn't meant to be. I can enjoy a game plenty on TV.

/met my wife at a SB party
 
2014-01-28 04:44:54 PM

BMulligan: abhorrent1: This superbowl is going to be a hilarious disaster. I can't wait.

Care to elaborate?


Duh, football games can't be played in 40 degree weather with mostly sunny skies.
 
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