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(The New York Times)   Today's Rocky and Bullwinkle headline: Age appropriate chores OR How to make your child a slave   (parenting.blogs.nytimes.com) divider line 19
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2014-01-28 01:21:27 PM
5 votes:
How is asking all family members to contribute to running the house slavery?
2014-01-28 01:22:29 PM
3 votes:

MyRandomName: Is subby from the school of liberalism that teaches all work is bad or something? Chores are good for children.


Chores are good for kids. Not only do they contribute to the household as they are able, it teaches them how to be competent adults.

They are family members, not house guests.
2014-01-28 01:21:27 PM
3 votes:
Is subby from the school of liberalism that teaches all work is bad or something? Chores are good for children.
2014-01-28 01:30:48 PM
2 votes:
Kids should be given chores and they can earn an allowance. this teaches them the value of work and wages before they can even get a job. Which is important.
I always worked as a kid, and earned every penny of my allowance, which was pretty small, compared to the wealthy kids who just got handed money.
I learned how to pay my own way, pay my own bills, and always have a job.
Every single employer has told me they loved my work ethic.
2014-01-28 01:28:42 PM
2 votes:
I hate folks who make their kids retreive things for them regularly.

"Hey Lil Jimmie, go get that remote. Go get me something to drink. Go get my cell phone. Go get the chips out of the pantry and bring them to me. Go get me another piece of cake..."

Nothing wrong with getting the kids to assist you sometimes, but they're not dogs and they weren't born to serve you.


/Get off of your lazy ass
2014-01-28 01:20:55 PM
2 votes:
I thought that 50% of the benefit of having kids was indentured servitude.

What's the problem?
2014-01-28 02:22:53 PM
1 votes:

hailin: I like how some of the comments on the Facebook picture are "But cooking is dangerous for a 10 year old!" Really? By 10 I was making roasts and soups unsupervised (yes I know, easy meals, but still legitimate cooking). I never cut myself with a knife or burned myself until I became a boozy adult. 10 year olds aren't incompetent. Quit coddling your kids.


This.

I know someone who is 21 and still regularly cuts herself while cutting vegetables. She hasn't died or horribly maimed herself yet so I don't see why a 12 year old would face more danger than that. Just teach the child in a supervised environment and be at hand while (s)he cooks (that is to say: be able to get there within a reasonable time if you hear a scream). The only reason cooking could be dangerous, barring genuine accidents, is because of a lack of experience.

/Touching a hot stove isn't an accident
//Neither is getting cut when running with a knife in hand
2014-01-28 01:56:11 PM
1 votes:
I like how some of the comments on the Facebook picture are "But cooking is dangerous for a 10 year old!" Really? By 10 I was making roasts and soups unsupervised (yes I know, easy meals, but still legitimate cooking). I never cut myself with a knife or burned myself until I became a boozy adult. 10 year olds aren't incompetent. Quit coddling your kids.
2014-01-28 01:52:49 PM
1 votes:

robbiex0r: How is a 12  year old going to shop for groceries, even with a list?


??
Walk or bike to store.
Put items in basket.
Pay cash for items.
Walk or bike home.
2014-01-28 01:45:40 PM
1 votes:
It's more of a chore to remind young kids (7 and under) to do their chores.  They (purposefully) never remember.   I have an 11 year old who earns money, or doesn't, by the jobs she has - putting away dishwasher dishes, doing her own laundry, clearing the dinner table, one or two others.   I have a 5 year old who I tried to teach to make his bed, and the results were such that I just did it myself every day anyway.  So he just has to keep his own toys and room clean.   This ain't no country club - you wanna eat and have clothes and toys and get driven to various birthday parties etc?  You gotta work.
2014-01-28 01:42:37 PM
1 votes:

robbiex0r: How is a 12  year old going to shop for groceries, even with a list?


give them cash or debit card and send them in.  It's DEAD simple.
2014-01-28 01:40:30 PM
1 votes:

robbiex0r: How is a 12  year old going to shop for groceries, even with a list?


Easy to do before urban sprawl made it impossible without driving.
2014-01-28 01:39:57 PM
1 votes:
But that trick never works!
2014-01-28 01:39:54 PM
1 votes:
I didn't have many chores growing up and realize that it made me a less capable adult for a while until I learned to all the things that were done for me - laundry, cleaning the bathroom, vacuuming/mopping, cleaning the kitchen counters after cooking, etc.

I did do dishes enough that I had that down.

Chores aren't just division of labor (which is a legitimate concept, IMO), but is also an aspect of life skills training.  There are concepts like organization, basic reasoning, conservation, etc. that come from cleaning up after one's self and taking care of one's things.

If your teen has to do their own laundry or pay for their own dry cleaning, that might factor a little into their clothing choices.   They may also learn/reinforce basic organization - separating delicates, colors, etc.
If your kid has to clean their bathroom, they might be a little more tidy in their use of it (or less likely to trash it).  If they have to keep their (whole) room vacuumed, they may be less likely to leave stuff on the floor or be flippant about things like crumbs, scraps of paper or that random small debris that always litters my floors between vacuumings.

For fark's sake, get them cooking.  Every person by 11 or 12 year old should know how to follow a recipe for all the but the most complicated things.  You've succeeded if your kid can handle at least half of Thanksgiving dinner for a household.  Roasting a turkey, making stuffing, chopping vegetables, making pan gravy, etc are not difficult with a little planning.
2014-01-28 01:39:52 PM
1 votes:

d23: vudukungfu: Kids should be given chores and they can earn an allowance. this teaches them the value of work and wages before they can even get a job. Which is important.

It's important in corporate-controlled world to learn how to do near-meaningless tasks for below minimum wage.


Sucks to not have any kind of useful skills.  Perhaps by doing chores kids will learn the value of not being useless, easily manipulated slaves
2014-01-28 01:35:36 PM
1 votes:

ChipNASA: Frecking Fark...my wife actually has this on the Fridge.

/4 year old and 11 month old...GET A JERB!!!


So maybe you can verify, but it seems to me that the list is more along the lines of "here are things that kids should be capable of doing at these ages" rather than "here are the things your kids should be doing on a regular basis at these ages".

And I find it a bit weird that they rank matching clean socks as more complex than sorting flatware, using a vacuum cleaner or setting the table.
2014-01-28 01:33:44 PM
1 votes:

MelGoesOnTour: I seem to be often subjected to, when at the grocery store, the slowest people in front of me in the aisle's as well as when waiting in line. It's when in the aisle's that I often seem to be behind older folks who use their grocery carts as walkers, arms folded and leaning across the hand-rest. And they are slow. Naturally, I know this helps support them (especially the older folks) but it is a nuisance just the same mainly because these people are painfully slow. Slow as sloths for the most part. Add to that the fact that they generally push their carts in the middle of the aisle---rather than at the right/left sides as traffic should dictate---these people are veritable roadblocks. And annoying. I do my best to skirt around them but it's not always easy to do. More often than not I find myself having to backtrack the aisle to get to the next aisle; this, of course, puts a damper on my own shopping experience which typically involves alternating aisle/travel-direction.


I usually just say "pardon me" and smile which works 100% of the time.

But you've clearly got a system, so good on you.
2014-01-28 01:29:32 PM
1 votes:
You'd be surprised how many people don't have their children do anything around the house. Kids and the disgusting animals people just HAVE to have in their house is keeping me in business, so please carry on.
2014-01-28 01:28:16 PM
1 votes:
A 3 year old can set the table?

No thanks, I don't want to drink out of a glass they slimed with their kiddie fluids.
 
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