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2014-01-28 11:01:12 AM  
I think I'm just going to start posting this in every thread about the evils of a minimum wage increase:

Not once, in the history of our country, has there ever been a single, solitary, reputable study that even suggests raising the minimum wage has any negative effect on the economy whatsoever.  Not one.

The right's demonization of a minimum wage increase comes down to one thing and one thing only: their abject horror at the idea that a janitor can make enough money to both pay his rent and buy food.
 
2014-01-28 11:13:14 AM  
I don't pay my interns anything, mainly because I have no interns.
 
2014-01-28 11:15:00 AM  
http://www.gop.com/internships/

No mention of payment there.
 
2014-01-28 11:17:15 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: I don't pay my interns anything, mainly because I have no interns.


Ah but if you did, well you wouldn't pay them anything because liberal.

Most libs are takers not makers anyway. reasons.

furthermore.
 
2014-01-28 11:18:05 AM  
Study it out, people.  Study it out.
 
2014-01-28 11:19:36 AM  
Well, DUH!  Because Democrats pay them in gov't entitlements.  If they paid their interns, then they wouldn't qualify for those sweet food stamps and the luxurious life of welfare.
 
2014-01-28 11:21:40 AM  
I haven't seen goalposts move like this since Bane bombed the Gotham Knights' stadium.
 
2014-01-28 11:29:38 AM  

CalvinMorallis: Not once, in the history of our country, has there ever been a single, solitary, reputable study that even suggests raising the minimum wage has any negative effect on the economy whatsoever. Not one.


That's because the issue is so completely unbelievably obvious as to not need studying. If you make the job creators raise minimum wage, they'll have only 2 possible choices.

1. Reduce the number of workers.
2. Reduce their profits.

Since #2 is so ludicrous as to be almost science fiction, what you you think will happen?
 
2014-01-28 11:31:45 AM  
So interns are the slaves to the Democrats ovens?
 
2014-01-28 11:31:56 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: job creators


DRINK!
 
2014-01-28 11:32:03 AM  
Conservatives didn't pay their slaves anything either.
 
2014-01-28 11:35:39 AM  
It's almost as if someone who applies to be an unpaid intern might realize what they're getting into, and doesn't need the income to live, but rather takes the position because it looks great on a resume which will allow them to get a better job in the future.
 
2014-01-28 11:36:34 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: CalvinMorallis: Not once, in the history of our country, has there ever been a single, solitary, reputable study that even suggests raising the minimum wage has any negative effect on the economy whatsoever. Not one.

That's because the issue is so completely unbelievably obvious as to not need studying. If you make the job creators raise minimum wage, they'll have only 2 possible choices.

1. Reduce the number of workers.
2. Reduce their profits.

Since #2 is so ludicrous as to be almost science fiction, what you you think will happen?


It's not obvious. If you've already cut your staffing to the minimum levels to meet demand(as many minimum wage employers already have) then reducing staffing means you have to start turning business away and since an increase in the minimum wage would almost certainly create an increase in sales for many of the biggest low-income employers(Walmart, McDonald's, etc) they can't afford to reduce the number of workers.

Your theory is based on an over-simplified(econ 101) understanding of the situation
 
2014-01-28 11:41:46 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: CalvinMorallis: Not once, in the history of our country, has there ever been a single, solitary, reputable study that even suggests raising the minimum wage has any negative effect on the economy whatsoever. Not one.

That's because the issue is so completely unbelievably obvious as to not need studying. If you make the job creators raise minimum wage, they'll have only 2 possible choices.

1. Reduce the number of workers.
2. Reduce their profits.

Since #2 is so ludicrous as to be almost science fiction, what you you think will happen?


I hope you're trolling me.  But after I got taken by the Bachman satire link yesterday, I just can't be sure anymore
 
2014-01-28 11:54:52 AM  
latimesblogs.latimes.com

Thinks they should work it off. Aw yeah.
 
2014-01-28 11:56:21 AM  
Unless Americans are willing to pay more for services or items, raising the minimum wage will not do a whole lot. Companies will look into automating processes as much as possible, eliminating production jobs. Manufacturers will move their production to 'less costly' areas/countries. Just look at what Obama is proposing with the T.P.P. (which no-one seems to be discussing). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

The fact is that the US can not pay wages/benefits comparable to those received after WWII, where the US was the worlds manufacturer (as the rest of the world was mostly destroyed). It lasted for 60+ years but the rest of the world has caught-up.
 
2014-01-28 12:15:51 PM  

ferretman: Unless Americans are willing to pay more for services or items, raising the minimum wage will not do a whole lot. Companies will look into automating processes as much as possible, eliminating production jobs. Manufacturers will move their production to 'less costly' areas/countries. Just look at what Obama is proposing with the T.P.P. (which no-one seems to be discussing). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

The fact is that the US can not pay wages/benefits comparable to those received after WWII, where the US was the worlds manufacturer (as the rest of the world was mostly destroyed). It lasted for 60+ years but the rest of the world has caught-up.


The US is a service based economy, retail is a huge sector of the economy and hard to export and (other than agriculture) the one that would be most affected by a min. wage increase. Aside from the fact that automation is happening anyway, most production and manufacturing jobs pay better than min. wage anyway. The other issue is that GDP has grown considerably since the 1980's but average real wage for most sectors has remained stagnant(average wealth in the nation has increased but all at the top end) and it's reached a point where it's having a real impact on the day to day lives of Americans and is hampering the economic recovery of sectors that rely on middle class spending. If you want to help grow the economy then we should increase the min. wage and increase the tax rate at the top end of the graduated income tax. Then plow that money into infrastructure, basic science, education and programs like SNAP.
 
2014-01-28 12:21:24 PM  

ferretman: Unless Americans are willing to pay more for services or items, raising the minimum wage will not do a whole lot. Companies will look into automating processes as much as possible, eliminating production jobs. Manufacturers will move their production to 'less costly' areas/countries. Just look at what Obama is proposing with the T.P.P. (which no-one seems to be discussing). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

The fact is that the US can not pay wages/benefits comparable to those received after WWII, where the US was the worlds manufacturer (as the rest of the world was mostly destroyed). It lasted for 60+ years but the rest of the world has caught-up.


CalvinMorallis: I think I'm just going to start posting this in every thread about the evils of a minimum wage increase:

Not once, in the history of our country, has there ever been a single, solitary, reputable study that even suggests raising the minimum wage has any negative effect on the economy whatsoever.  Not one.

The right's demonization of a minimum wage increase comes down to one thing and one thing only: their abject horror at the idea that a janitor can make enough money to both pay his rent and buy food.
 
2014-01-28 12:41:33 PM  

Voiceofreason01: ferretman: Unless Americans are willing to pay more for services or items, raising the minimum wage will not do a whole lot. Companies will look into automating processes as much as possible, eliminating production jobs. Manufacturers will move their production to 'less costly' areas/countries. Just look at what Obama is proposing with the T.P.P. (which no-one seems to be discussing). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

The fact is that the US can not pay wages/benefits comparable to those received after WWII, where the US was the worlds manufacturer (as the rest of the world was mostly destroyed). It lasted for 60+ years but the rest of the world has caught-up.

The US is a service based economy, retail is a huge sector of the economy and hard to export and (other than agriculture) the one that would be most affected by a min. wage increase. Aside from the fact that automation is happening anyway, most production and manufacturing jobs pay better than min. wage anyway. The other issue is that GDP has grown considerably since the 1980's but average real wage for most sectors has remained stagnant(average wealth in the nation has increased but all at the top end) and it's reached a point where it's having a real impact on the day to day lives of Americans and is hampering the economic recovery of sectors that rely on middle class spending. If you want to help grow the economy then we should increase the min. wage and increase the tax rate at the top end of the graduated income tax. Then plow that money into infrastructure, basic science, education and programs like SNAP.


Short version: Corporations are making more than enough profit and should plow some of it back into the workforce that makes it happen.
 
2014-01-28 12:46:20 PM  

MrBallou: Short version: Corporations are making more than enough profit and should plow some of it back into the workforce that makes it happen.


I would phrase it as: income inequality is damaging the economy and hampering growth and the argument that the US can't afford to pay a living minimum wage and decent benefits is bullshiat. But, yeah, pretty much.
 
2014-01-28 01:12:30 PM  
Republicans are too busy touching page boys to notice
 
2014-01-28 01:13:57 PM  
Don't intern work for tips?
 
2014-01-28 01:14:20 PM  
96% of Republicans who espouse harder work as a sure way to earn more money don't pay their interns anything no matter how hard they work.
 
2014-01-28 01:15:00 PM  
Isn't that the definition of Intern?  If they were paid they would be employees......
 
2014-01-28 01:15:23 PM  
I have interns?
 
2014-01-28 01:15:27 PM  
Most people don't pay their interns.  That's how it works and you know that getting into the field.

On the other hand...

Last year, I wrote for Newsbusters

That would explain the short bus mentality in reporting.
 
2014-01-28 01:15:37 PM  
Out of curiosity: what the hell do companies that make billions of dollars of profit do with it every quarter? Of course some of it gets reinvested, but where does it go? I don't think they just pay executives whatever is left over.
 
2014-01-28 01:15:48 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-01-28 01:16:12 PM  
*yawn*

So farking what?  Intern more often than not is NOT a paid position.

Next imaginary asshurt from the GOP:  Democrats use dollar bill once touched by republican!
 
2014-01-28 01:16:18 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Your theory is based on an over-simplified(econ 101) understanding of the situation


Can you explain it using a coconut based healthcare exchange?
 
2014-01-28 01:16:43 PM  
Wait 96% of my Democratic colleagues have interns?! shiat they have been holding out on me! Where do I get one? I can afford $0/hr several times over
 
2014-01-28 01:17:14 PM  

SilentStrider: I have interns?


I would suggest fogging the house followed by a spray every three weeks.
 
2014-01-28 01:17:43 PM  
The choice is relatively simple:

1) Have the government continue to close the gap between wages and needs
2) Increase the minimum wage and shift the cost to employers

1) has the advantage of allowing conservatives to demonize the working poor.
 
2014-01-28 01:17:43 PM  

Fart_Machine: Most people don't pay their interns. That's how it works and you know that getting into the field.


Which is kind of bullshiat, but the fact that it is bullshiat is a separate issue from minimum wage.
 
2014-01-28 01:17:49 PM  
What % of GOP accusing dems of hypocrisy, are they themselves hypocrites?
 
2014-01-28 01:17:51 PM  
While it's true that a lot of companies have interns that are doing work or working hours that are in violation of company policy and therefor *should* technically be either regular workers and ought to be compensated as such or should have their responsibilities and hours changed to conform to policy...

I fail to see what this has to do with raising the minimum wage or party affiliation.
 
2014-01-28 01:19:12 PM  

BitwiseShift: Don't intern work for tips?


No, you're thinking of rentboys.
 
2014-01-28 01:19:50 PM  
www.bartcop.com
 
2014-01-28 01:20:04 PM  
GOTCHA LIBS
 
2014-01-28 01:20:42 PM  

CalvinMorallis: I think I'm just going to start posting this in every thread about the evils of a minimum wage increase:

Not once, in the history of our country, has there ever been a single, solitary, reputable study that even suggests raising the minimum wage has any negative effect on the economy whatsoever.  Not one.

The right's demonization of a minimum wage increase comes down to one thing and one thing only: their abject horror at the idea that a janitor can make enough money to both pay his rent and buy food.


And pass some wealth onto his children or at least get them an education so they can live better than he did.
 
2014-01-28 01:20:50 PM  
That's it, I'm voting for Romney.
 
2014-01-28 01:21:24 PM  
Wait, we get interns?
 
2014-01-28 01:21:28 PM  

MrBallou: Voiceofreason01: ferretman: Unless Americans are willing to pay more for services or items, raising the minimum wage will not do a whole lot. Companies will look into automating processes as much as possible, eliminating production jobs. Manufacturers will move their production to 'less costly' areas/countries. Just look at what Obama is proposing with the T.P.P. (which no-one seems to be discussing). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

The fact is that the US can not pay wages/benefits comparable to those received after WWII, where the US was the worlds manufacturer (as the rest of the world was mostly destroyed). It lasted for 60+ years but the rest of the world has caught-up.

The US is a service based economy, retail is a huge sector of the economy and hard to export and (other than agriculture) the one that would be most affected by a min. wage increase. Aside from the fact that automation is happening anyway, most production and manufacturing jobs pay better than min. wage anyway. The other issue is that GDP has grown considerably since the 1980's but average real wage for most sectors has remained stagnant(average wealth in the nation has increased but all at the top end) and it's reached a point where it's having a real impact on the day to day lives of Americans and is hampering the economic recovery of sectors that rely on middle class spending. If you want to help grow the economy then we should increase the min. wage and increase the tax rate at the top end of the graduated income tax. Then plow that money into infrastructure, basic science, education and programs like SNAP.

Short version: Corporations are making more than enough profit and should plow some of it back into the workforce that makes it happen.


Corporations are now global entities, who move their money to areas where they don't have to pay taxes but create low-paying jobs (high paying for the areas they are located in but 'low' paying when compared to the US). Look how much in federal taxes Facebook and Google have paid....
 
2014-01-28 01:21:48 PM  
The way you get around paying interns is if they are receiving college credits for their time working for you.

But true enough, not paying them at all is cheap shiat. At least minimum wage, people.
 
2014-01-28 01:22:34 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: CalvinMorallis: I think I'm just going to start posting this in every thread about the evils of a minimum wage increase:

Not once, in the history of our country, has there ever been a single, solitary, reputable study that even suggests raising the minimum wage has any negative effect on the economy whatsoever.  Not one.

The right's demonization of a minimum wage increase comes down to one thing and one thing only: their abject horror at the idea that a janitor can make enough money to both pay his rent and buy food.

And pass some wealth onto his children or at least get them an education so they can live better than he did.


I read that as "get them an erection"

/second pot of coffee now brewing
 
2014-01-28 01:23:04 PM  
The socialist has a plan for YOUR money.

It is different than the plan for his own.
 
2014-01-28 01:23:15 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: The choice is relatively simple:

1) Have the government continue to close the gap between wages and needs
2) Increase the minimum wage and shift the cost to employers - who will pass the costs down to their customers.

1) has the advantage of allowing conservatives to demonize the working poor.

 
2014-01-28 01:23:43 PM  

neversubmit: [www.bartcop.com image 500x500]


You do realize that if the minimum wage had grown at that rate, inflation would have rendered its value to something resembling what it is now?
 
2014-01-28 01:24:08 PM  
100% of Republicans who oppose slavery don't pay their interns anything.
 
2014-01-28 01:24:12 PM  

ferretman: Unless Americans are willing to pay more for services or items, raising the minimum wage will not do a whole lot. Companies will look into automating processes as much as possible, eliminating production jobs. Manufacturers will move their production to 'less costly' areas/countries. Just look at what Obama is proposing with the T.P.P. (which no-one seems to be discussing). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

The fact is that the US can not pay wages/benefits comparable to those received after WWII, where the US was the worlds manufacturer (as the rest of the world was mostly destroyed). It lasted for 60+ years but the rest of the world has caught-up.


So if this is so than why are US CEO types paid so much more now then they were after WWII and we were the world's manufacturer?   your flawgic fails.
 
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