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(Slate)   The party of personal responsibility blames Obama for the recent money-laundering arrest of conservative wünderkind Dinesh D'Souza   (slate.com) divider line 90
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2014-01-28 10:15:19 AM
the man who blamed liberals for 9/11? fark him.
 
2014-01-28 10:21:09 AM
It's such a deep conspiracy that D'Souza himself is in on it, since for the whole thing to work at all, he first had to actually commit a crime.  The nerve of these dems!  Is there no depth to which they will not fall in order to advance their nefarious agenda?
 
2014-01-28 10:26:06 AM
Perhaps Dinesh should stop breaking campaign finance laws.  That might be a good place to start.
 
2014-01-28 10:39:19 AM
The "party of personal responsibility" blames Obama for Pearl Harbor, the Bay of Pigs, and the Tonkin Gulf incident, too

/what's your point?
 
2014-01-28 10:41:39 AM
Money laundering isn't what it used to be. God, I miss the '80s.
 
2014-01-28 10:43:57 AM
The echo chamber reports this incident as "he gave too much money to one candidate"--which is true. He did exceed the donor limits for that election. That's bad, but it's not the real story.

The real issue is that (a) he knew he was breaking the law and exceeding the limit; and (b) he used "straw donors" in an attempt to hide his tracks. (A straw donor is one whose name the donation is made In, who is then reimbursed by the actual donor).

His bail is high because he is a flight risk--he still has foreign ties and significant wealth.

He is likely to receive a stiff penalty even if he settles (which most of these cases do) because he knowingly circumvented election laws.

He didn't simply "donate too much money."
 
2014-01-28 10:44:37 AM
Non-story. Just the partisan criminalization of criminality.
 
2014-01-28 10:57:21 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Perhaps Dinesh should stop breaking campaign finance laws.  That might be a good place to start.



Laws are for the little people.
 
2014-01-28 11:44:30 AM

SilentStrider: Marcus Aurelius: Perhaps Dinesh should stop breaking campaign finance laws.  That might be a good place to start.


Laws are for the little people.


Laws are people too my friend.
 
2014-01-28 01:16:41 PM

mrshowrules: SilentStrider: Marcus Aurelius: Perhaps Dinesh should stop breaking campaign finance laws.  That might be a good place to start.


Laws are for the little people.

Laws are people too my friend.



Laws aren't corporations. They don't get to be above the law.
 
2014-01-28 01:24:25 PM
That took much longer than I expected.
 
2014-01-28 01:24:44 PM
The latest theory I've heard peddled is that Obama is finally using his prodigious power behind the scenes to take out his political adversaries. I knew that argument was coming from a mile away. This is because conservatives never fail and can only be failed.
 
2014-01-28 01:25:56 PM
So far his defense seems to be "Yeah, I did it, but it shouldn't be illegal. Also, Obama."

I do hope they allege a conspiracy starting with the President of the nation at trial though.
 
2014-01-28 01:26:36 PM
Cruz:   "Whether it's the poor fellow that did the film that the president blamed Benghazi and the terrorist attacks on-turns out that wasn't the reason for the attack but the administration went and put that poor fellow in jail on unrelated charges."

This is really special, even for Cruz.  Um, that guy put himself in jail for his other crimes.   But I guess grifters gotta stick together, right Teddy?

The good news is that as long as I don't say anything negative about Obama, my human trafficking ring is safe from prosecution.
 
2014-01-28 01:26:48 PM
You all knew it was going to happen
 
2014-01-28 01:27:35 PM
" the IRS   that Tea Party groups got intense scrutiny when they asked for tax-exempt status."

Oh FFS Slate. The IRS also admitted that liberal groups got a ton of scrutiny too, just the Congressional witch hunt specifically excluded investigating whether anyone other than conservative groups got asked for supporting information.
 
2014-01-28 01:28:21 PM
wunderkind alter mann

...or however they say 'old man'. He's like my age, he hasn't been a kind for decades.

And I'm not so sure about the wunder part, either.
 
2014-01-28 01:28:55 PM

SilentStrider: mrshowrules: SilentStrider: Marcus Aurelius: Perhaps Dinesh should stop breaking campaign finance laws.  That might be a good place to start.


Laws are for the little people.

Laws are people too my friend.


Laws aren't corporations. They don't get to be above the law.


I didn't get Above The Law either.  I remember watching it in the same night as Major League 2 (which I was able to understand and enjoy despite not having seen Major League 1).
 
2014-01-28 01:29:37 PM
Conservativism is a self-parody.
 
2014-01-28 01:30:45 PM
...and just because it's German doesn't mean that every "u" gets an umlaut.
 
2014-01-28 01:34:35 PM
I dunno, this "Dinesh D'Souza" has an awfully funny-sounding name. Like a brown-people-country kind of name.

Also, are we sure he has no ties to international terrorism? We'd better throw him in GTMO, just to be safe. If no one there recognizes him, it just means that they're trying to convince us that he's not one of them and that his cover is too deep.
 
2014-01-28 01:35:29 PM

phaseolus: ...and just because it's German doesn't mean that every "u" gets an umlaut.


Obviously, the umlaut should be on the "n".
 
2014-01-28 01:36:54 PM
 
2014-01-28 01:37:08 PM
Conservatives believe the Obama administration has declared a secret war on their heroes.

Maybe...stick with me here...maybe conservative "heroes" believe the end justifies the means, which leads them to do ethically questionable - sometimes illegal - things?

/Want to win more elections? Do everything except turn away from your failed ideology.
 
2014-01-28 01:37:19 PM
But the GOP DOES believe in personal responsibility. They believe Fartbongo is personally responsible for every evil in the world today.

www.sherylfranklin.com
 
2014-01-28 01:37:23 PM

BMulligan: That took much longer than I expected.


Actually Matt Drudge came out with this the same day.  He said it was the beginning of the prophesized crackdown and everyone should head for their bunkers.
 
2014-01-28 01:38:44 PM

SilentStrider: Laws aren't corporations. They don't get to be above the law.


Only Steven Seagal is Above the Law.
 
2014-01-28 01:38:54 PM
I especially like the part where CBS shows some mercy on Cruz (although it was most likely for time), edits out his batshait insane conspiracy nonsense, and then gets hammered on for being "bias".
 
2014-01-28 01:40:30 PM

ferretman: But when a Democrat does it, it's a misdemeanor.

http://overlawyered.com/2006/06/update-9500-fine-for-edwards-campaig n- finance-violations/


LOL

They should totally bring that up at trial too. BTW, who was President then?
 
2014-01-28 01:41:52 PM

Target Builder: " the IRS   that Tea Party groups got intense scrutiny when they asked for tax-exempt status."

Oh FFS Slate. The IRS also admitted that liberal groups got a ton of scrutiny too, just the Congressional witch hunt specifically excluded investigating whether anyone other than conservative groups got asked for supporting information.


They're more describing the narrative that the one guy is trying to push.

Later on they say:
"That thumping sound you hear is the long tail of the 2013 IRS scandal. It's been eight months since the story broke, and subsequent investigations have found so little actual wrongdoing that House Republicans want the Department of Justice to probe the probes"
 
2014-01-28 01:42:07 PM

ArkPanda: BMulligan: That took much longer than I expected.

Actually Matt Drudge came out with this the same day.  He said it was the beginning of the prophesized crackdown and everyone should head for their bunkers.


Drudge has a path to his bunker almost as well-worn as the one to my beer 'fridge.
 
2014-01-28 01:42:26 PM
I've realized something! Conservatives actually come from an alternative universe where the Republican's are the moderate and sane party while the Democrates are the window licking racists. And every thing conservatives perceive really comes from that universe, so instead of blabbering imbeciles ranting about tired talking points, they see blabbering imbeciles ranting about tired talking points, but with a "D" next to their name.
Hell, with this theory everything regarding the nutjobs makes sense! In their universe, Obama isn't a mediocre president but a ruthless and politically manipulative bastard who has made frequent moves at seizing more power. And Christians are being attacked by a Scientology/Islamic/New Age alliance! And the hippies never grew up and now are everywhere!
Man, we could have some fun with this concept. Feel free to add in more ideas about the Conserviverse!
 
2014-01-28 01:42:39 PM
Do you know how I know this article isn't credible?

FTA: Since then, the IRS had admitted that Tea Party groups got intense scrutiny when they asked for tax-exempt status
 
2014-01-28 01:43:42 PM

ferretman: But when a Democrat does it, it's a misdemeanor.

http://overlawyered.com/2006/06/update-9500-fine-for-edwards-campaig n- finance-violations/


You realize that's not the same thing right?  D'Souza didn't just make illegal contributions.  He also tried to falsify reports to cover it up with the FEC.
 
2014-01-28 01:43:44 PM
phaseolus: ümläüt
 
2014-01-28 01:44:12 PM

ferretman: But when a Democrat does it, it's a misdemeanor.

http://overlawyered.com/2006/06/update-9500-fine-for-edwards-campaig n- finance-violations/


Oh, don't worry. I blame Obama for that, too.
 
2014-01-28 01:45:30 PM

Dr Dreidel: I dunno, this "Dinesh D'Souza" has an awfully funny-sounding name. Like a brown-people-country kind of name.

Also, are we sure he has no ties to international terrorism? We'd better throw him in GTMO, just to be safe. If no one there recognizes him, it just means that they're trying to convince us that he's not one of them and that his cover is too deep.


Next week he'll change his name to Bobby D'Souza.
 
2014-01-28 01:46:15 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The "party of personal responsibility" blames Obama for Pearl Harbor, the Bay of Pigs, and the Tonkin Gulf incident, too

/what's your point?


Obama used his time machine to go back in time to the Garden of Eden and disguised himself as a serpent...
 
2014-01-28 01:46:41 PM
Bush Derangement Syndrome was a case of the farking sniffles compared to the stage 4 ass cancer that is Obama Derangement Syndrome.
 
2014-01-28 01:47:04 PM

BMulligan: Dr Dreidel: I dunno, this "Dinesh D'Souza" has an awfully funny-sounding name. Like a brown-people-country kind of name.

Also, are we sure he has no ties to international terrorism? We'd better throw him in GTMO, just to be safe. If no one there recognizes him, it just means that they're trying to convince us that he's not one of them and that his cover is too deep.

Next week he'll change his name to Bobby D'Souza.


Don't you mean B. Piyush D'Souza?
 
2014-01-28 01:47:19 PM

Richard C Stanford: I've realized something! Conservatives actually come from an alternative universe where the Republican's are the moderate and sane party while the Democrates are the window licking racists. And every thing conservatives perceive really comes from that universe, so instead of blabbering imbeciles ranting about tired talking points, they see blabbering imbeciles ranting about tired talking points, but with a "D" next to their name.
Hell, with this theory everything regarding the nutjobs makes sense! In their universe, Obama isn't a mediocre president but a ruthless and politically manipulative bastard who has made frequent moves at seizing more power. And Christians are being attacked by a Scientology/Islamic/New Age alliance! And the hippies never grew up and now are everywhere!
Man, we could have some fun with this concept. Feel free to add in more ideas about the Conserviverse!


It must be exhausting being that looped constantly without drugs.  I applaud them for it.  I don't have that sort of energy.
 
2014-01-28 01:49:42 PM
This is the same party that accuses the media of being "liberal" whenever a Republican politician does something wrong.
 
2014-01-28 01:51:34 PM

ferretman: But when a Democrat does it, it's a misdemeanor.

http://overlawyered.com/2006/06/update-9500-fine-for-edwards-campaig n- finance-violations/


Clarifying note by W.O. [editor], Jan. 25, 2014: This archival post has drawn reader interest in light of more recent straw-donor enforcement controversies. It is worth noting that while the Edwards campaign paid only a $9,500 civil fine for accepting the illegal contributions, the lawyer and law firm that arranged the donations paid a larger fine of $50,000, several times the size of the original contributions, in a civil (not criminal) penalty.
 
2014-01-28 01:53:50 PM

czetie: phaseolus: ...and just because it's German doesn't mean that every "u" gets an umlaut.

Obviously, the umlaut should be on the "n".


Like this?

eviljwinter.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-28 01:54:41 PM

ferretman: But when a Democrat does it, it's a misdemeanor.

http://overlawyered.com/2006/06/update-9500-fine-for-edwards-campaig n- finance-violations/


You are conflating two entirely different issues/results.  An attorney out of Arkansas arranged to contribute to the John Edwards campaign fund and used a couple of employees from his firm as "fronts" to allow him to exceed the monetary limits on contributions.  (The identical act the Feds are alleging were committed by Dinesh D'Souza.)

Part of the law FEC Regs, actually holds the campaign itself responsible if it receives donations that are illegal - even if they really have no way of knowing it at the time, it's sort of a "strict liability" issue.  As such, the FEC required that the Edwards campaign pay some $9,500 in fines, basically the amount of the contributions combined.

The Arkansas lawyer in the case, who had illegally contributed the money (just like D'Souza did) took a plea bargain in which he agreed to pay over $50,000 in fines.   I would imagine that D'Souza will be/has been offered a similar deal as his own attorney has basically publicly admitted that he in fact did the deed.
 
2014-01-28 01:55:54 PM

COMALite J: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The "party of personal responsibility" blames Obama for Pearl Harbor, the Bay of Pigs, and the Tonkin Gulf incident, too

/what's your point?

Obama used his time machine to go back in time to the Garden of Eden and disguised himself as a serpent...


Not much of a disguise....
 
2014-01-28 01:56:21 PM

HotWingConspiracy: So far his defense seems to be "Yeah, I did it, but it shouldn't be illegal. Also, Obama."


Nah. His defense seems to be "Yeah, I did it and I know it's illegal, but I'm a conservative so no Democrat can enforce laws against me."
 
2014-01-28 01:56:40 PM
That personal responsibility thing is just an instrument to beat the poors.  It doesn't really mean anything.
 
2014-01-28 01:58:12 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: BMulligan: Dr Dreidel: I dunno, this "Dinesh D'Souza" has an awfully funny-sounding name. Like a brown-people-country kind of name.

Also, are we sure he has no ties to international terrorism? We'd better throw him in GTMO, just to be safe. If no one there recognizes him, it just means that they're trying to convince us that he's not one of them and that his cover is too deep.

Next week he'll change his name to Bobby D'Souza.

Don't you mean B. Piyush D'Souza?


I heard he's already shortened it to D-Trycky.
 
2014-01-28 01:59:09 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: Conservatives believe the Obama administration has declared a secret war on their heroes.

Maybe...stick with me here...maybe conservative "heroes" believe the end justifies the means, which leads them to do ethically questionable - sometimes illegal - things?

/Want to win more elections? Do everything except turn away from your failed ideology.


If you're not willing to break the law to win, you're not trying hard enough.
 
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