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(The New York Times)   Where have all the flowers gone? Pete Seeger has gone at age 94   (nytimes.com) divider line 74
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2014-01-28 07:53:56 AM  
8 votes:
A wonderful man who stood strong for his beliefs. Would not name "Commie" friends to the fascist Joe McCarthey's UnAmerican's Commitee. Lost a lot of money in sponsorships and was banned from TV because of his silence, but money was not what drove Pete. His songs were not only beautiful to listen but they brought people together to fight for civil rights, peace, justice, the environment, union rights. He was one of the key players in getting the Hudson River cleaned up. They don't make men like Pete Seeger anymore. God bless.
2014-01-28 08:09:51 AM  
6 votes:
Pete Seeger was a true patriot.
2014-01-28 07:46:13 AM  
6 votes:
2.bp.blogspot.com

He was good folk. RIP sir.
2014-01-28 09:59:21 AM  
5 votes:
Seven decades of kicking fascist ass.
Now that's entertainment.
2014-01-28 07:56:53 AM  
4 votes:
Caught the NPR story on the way in this morning. It ended with his son (I think) saying that Pete ended up doubting that the pen (and the banjo) really were mightier than the sword -- that he felt like he'd failed in his mission. That brought a lump to my throat.

Pete, you may not have made it to the Promised Land -- but I think we'd be much further from it if not for you. I'd like to think that somewhere, somehow, you know that now.
2014-01-28 07:55:10 AM  
4 votes:
A time to be born, a time to die.
2014-01-28 07:54:40 AM  
4 votes:
This guy is huge.  Amazing influence on our culture.
2014-01-28 08:23:01 PM  
3 votes:
. "I apologize for once believing Stalin was just a hard driver, not a supremely cruel dictator. I ask people to broaden their definition of socialism. Our ancestors were all socialists: You killed a deer and maybe you got the best cut, but you wouldn't let it rot, you shared it. Similarly, I tell socialists, every society has a post office and none of them is efficient. No post office anywhere invented Federal Express."
2014-01-28 09:57:07 AM  
3 votes:
RIP comrade.
2014-01-28 09:07:58 AM  
3 votes:
Pros:

Extreme courage
Incredible writer
Pursued Justice
Incredible musician
Never got fat
Lived a full life
Admirers in every generation
Prolific song writer
dropped out of Harvard before Bill Gates
and a thousand more


Cons:

Played Banjo.
2014-01-28 09:00:10 AM  
3 votes:

FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

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Given that his career stretched from the 40s to the 10s, you're going to be hearing from a lot more than Baby Boomers in the coming days.  Basically, anyone who picked up an acoustic guitar (especially a 12-string) or a banjo in this country in the last 50 years was influenced by him in some way
2014-01-28 08:09:21 AM  
3 votes:

GibbyTheMole: Coincidentally, I just watched the "Greenwich Village: Music That Defined a Generation" documentary on Netflix last night, which featured a lot on Pete Seeger. I never was much of a folkie, but I've gained an appreciation for it after watching the film. Seeger was a remarkable guy who helped make the world a better place. Godspeed, sir... and thanks for all you did.


Pete's a great point to get into the folk movement(s) in this country, as he was part of several of them, from looking for songs in the South in the 30s to the anti-fascist movement in the 40s to the rise of popular folk in the 50s and early 60s.  He always gave credit when he sang someone else's song, and knew the origins of most traditional folk songs as back as far as they could be traced (his father was a Harvard-trained musicologist).

About the only thing he didn't like was the lyrics to "Greensleeves", which became a running joke for the Weavers.
2014-01-28 07:31:38 AM  
3 votes:
Goodnight, Irene.
2014-01-28 07:22:29 AM  
3 votes:
I remember him coming to our elementary school (suburban Long Island) in the early 60s.  I have always loved his passion and his music. The world is a sadder place for his loss.
2014-01-28 07:20:08 AM  
3 votes:
very sad day, a time to weep.. God speed, Mr. Seeger
2014-01-28 01:55:51 AM  
3 votes:
While most certainly a loss, you have to admit that 94 years is a pretty good run.
2014-01-28 04:54:15 PM  
2 votes:
He was one of the very, very few who stood up to HUAC and told them to shove it in person under threat of prison. For that he deserves all the blessings and honor in the world
2014-01-28 03:10:41 PM  
2 votes:
Last night I had the strangest dream...

I dreamed I was playing the banjo.  I haven't touched a banjo for probably ten-twelve years.  I was a "self-taught" banjo player, right out of Pete's red book.

Pete Seeger was not perfect...he was wrong about some things...he was maybe more wrapped up in his causes than he was in his family...but Pete Seeger did more good for humanity before breakfast yesterday than most of us will in an entire lifetime.

He was a great man.
2014-01-28 02:58:04 PM  
2 votes:

R.A.Danny: someonelse: jigger: Pro-Stalin (until the 1990s)

Nope.

This. Pro communist in it's very basic, never gonna happen state.


It infuriates me that conservatives pillory naive ex-Communists, and yet they absolve anyone who was an extremist on the right, like the Birchers and the Ayn Rand cultists and the KKK.
2014-01-28 12:57:10 PM  
2 votes:
Goodnight Big Forearmed Man.

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2014-01-28 10:02:20 AM  
2 votes:

Kyosuke: GeeksAreMyPeeps: Was it the crushing pain of the Grammy defeat?

That he lost to Stephen Colbert. Could be an interesting Colbert Report tonight.


The only reason I know that he was nominated is from the segment on Colbert last night. I guess you could say he got the Colbert bump off.
2014-01-28 09:58:58 AM  
2 votes:
While it certainly is sad news & we are a lesser place with him gone, 94 is a pretty good run & he influenced more people than can be counted.  He will be missed but not forgotten.
2014-01-28 08:35:38 AM  
2 votes:
Time to go into your little box made of ticky-tacky, Pete. Will it be a green one, a pink one, a blue one or a yellow one? Link

/Whatever one it is, I hope they slap a peace sign sticker on it. And paint some flowers on it.
//RIP old friend I never met
2014-01-28 08:35:06 AM  
2 votes:
Can't say I agreed with all of his opinions, but he was brave enough to stand by the unpopular beliefs, and honest enough to let his ideas evolve. But his core seemed to be peace, music, and freedom. Those ideas didn't need a lot of change. If you have a chance to check the American Masters episode on Pete, it's certainly worth it. You'll find his old TV show Rainbow Quest at YouTube.


/Heard indirectly a quote from Arlo Guthrie "Of course he died. Doesn't mean he's gone.'
2014-01-28 08:31:50 AM  
2 votes:

IrieTom: Pete Seeger was a true patriot.


The most patriotic ex-Stalinist ever.

No, really. I live near the Hudson so it was impossible for anybody not to have crossed paths with Pete at least once or twice. I almost ran him over when he was protesting on a narrow local highway median one afternoon and didn't realize that whenever he stopped playing he'd leave his banjo sticking out into traffic coming at him from behind. Anybody else would've gotten a bunch of "watch where you're going, dickhead" but it was just Pete being Pete so people waved. And he had a wonderful ability to have calm arguments even with people who were all the way on the opposite end of the spectrum from him. Not that they'd agree with him, but they'd walk away respecting each other.

Needless to say, Pete didn't have a Fark handle.
2014-01-28 08:26:38 AM  
2 votes:
He sang "This Land is Your Land" at Obama's inauguration. RIP Old Commie Bastard.
2014-01-28 08:13:48 AM  
2 votes:
Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

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2014-01-28 08:04:46 AM  
2 votes:
I went to see him at a college concert, back in the day.  At one point, another student jumped up on stage and used the mic to announce that the National Guard had fired upon and killed students at Kent State.  The gym erupted with a mixture of anger and confusion.  Good ol' Pete then tried his best to keep the lid on the crowd, pleading for peace and calm.

Many ignored his advice, though, and the campus was closed for a few days during the aftermath.  Poignant memory.
2014-01-28 07:37:20 AM  
2 votes:
My family used to belong to the Clearwater Society in the 70s and 80s and we used to take the ship out of the long pier just south of Nyack. Sailed up and down the Hudson on that sloop many a time. He used sing a lot on board and was a great guy to talk to.

Last time I saw him perform was at the South Street piers a good ten years ago.

/good times
2014-01-28 08:52:01 PM  
1 votes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE4H0k8TDgw


He may be a damn commie but that will make you say,"America, fark Yeah!"
2014-01-28 06:37:32 PM  
1 votes:

ObeliskToucher: [i260.photobucket.com image 339x400]

Welcome, tovarisch!


You (and many others in this thread) are confusing him with his father, Charles Seeger, who went to his grave in his 90s an unrepentant Stalinist.  Charles was also the one who tried to stop Dylan's performance at Newport in 1964 with an ax.

Pete was one of the first American Communists to believe the stories coming out of the USSR during WWII, stories which the popular press didn't even accept or print (because the Soviets were our allies) until well after the war.

It was a very fluid time politically, and people seem to forget that political leaders from Huey Long to Stalin to Castro didn't start out the dictators they became.
2014-01-28 05:32:00 PM  
1 votes:

caddisfly: someonelse: WanPhat: Pete Seeger was still alive?  Wow, I would have guessed he was gone along time ago.  He's cool, no disrespect, but he seemed old 40 years ago.  I learned about Pete Seeger as a historical figure when I was in grade school and I'm old.

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No biggie, the 2009 inauguration wasn't that big of a media spectacle.

Can't fathom he was 89 years old and performing in Washington in January.


I think he was still hiking and chopping his own firewood well into his 80s. He clearly was doing it right.
2014-01-28 05:14:05 PM  
1 votes:
As political as he was, this should be in the political tab, but then someone would just trash him.

He truly is a legend.
2014-01-28 04:19:08 PM  
1 votes:

Carn: Why is it sad when someone who's 94 dies?  That's awesome.  90 f*ckin 4!  Great job dude!


Because human beings think it's sad when someone dies, nno matter how old they are. It's a normal, healthy emotional response.
2014-01-28 04:16:31 PM  
1 votes:

markfara: I detest most folk music, but Seeger was a good guy. We're a poorer nation now that he's gone.


then turn off your radio, stop listening to whatever .....it's all folk music unless you listen to nothing but symphonies, NTTAWWT
2014-01-28 03:45:35 PM  
1 votes:

dryknife: Magorn: who else?


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Possibly. Martin is farking hard core about his banjo.
2014-01-28 03:18:59 PM  
1 votes:

grizzlyjohnson: Bith Set Me Up: Magorn: So let's predict the set lest for his funeral:
Arlo Gutherie
Bob Dylan
Bruce Springstien
The surviving members of Peter Paul and Mary
Leonard Cohen
John Cale

who else?

(and fark the funeral, the greatest place say you were for years to come, would be either the private wake the night before or the hotel where all these folk stay the night before...)

Roger McGuinn?

Ronnie Gilbert, I hope.


Maybe Billy Bragg?

"Here comes the future and you can't run from it
If you've got a blacklist I want to be on it

It's a mighty long way down rock 'n roll
From Top of the Pops to drawing the dole

If no one seems to understand
Start your own revolution, cut out the middleman
In a perfect world we'd all sing in tune
But this is reality so give me some room
So join the struggle while you may
The Revolution is just a t-shirt away "
2014-01-28 03:12:41 PM  
1 votes:

Bith Set Me Up: Magorn: So let's predict the set lest for his funeral:
Arlo Gutherie
Bob Dylan
Bruce Springstien
The surviving members of Peter Paul and Mary
Leonard Cohen
John Cale

who else?

(and fark the funeral, the greatest place say you were for years to come, would be either the private wake the night before or the hotel where all these folk stay the night before...)

Roger McGuinn?


Ronnie Gilbert, I hope.
2014-01-28 02:47:35 PM  
1 votes:
RIP Mr. Seeger.   Today we have lost a legend.
2014-01-28 01:45:47 PM  
1 votes:

exparrot: same_old_mess: exparrot: FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

fark you you cynical fark. Music has always been an inspirational force and the fact that it can move people to action is a historical fact.
His music quite literally had an impact, an effect.It changed the course of history without a bullet, without a gun.

I would love to know what outside influences define your personal ethos, unless of course it is all entirely based on a personally written manifesto.

Pretty sure trolling was the only "personal ethos" on display there.

goddammitsomuch. I can't tell anymore. Poe's law and all that.


:-)

It was about 80% troll and 20% honest.  I'm surprised I didn't hook more.

But more words will be spilled over Seeger in the next week than have ever been written in the popular media about WEB DuBois, Frederick Douglass, and Paul Laurence Dunbar.  And that makes me sad.
2014-01-28 01:21:59 PM  
1 votes:
Fun fact: Seeger and Woody Guthrie were introduced to each other by Grandpa Walton

will-geer.journal-of-life.com
2014-01-28 01:18:11 PM  
1 votes:
So let's predict the set lest for his funeral:
Arlo Gutherie
Bob Dylan
Bruce Springstien
The surviving members of Peter Paul and Mary
Leonard Cohen
John Cale

who else?

(and fark the funeral, the greatest place say you were for years to come, would be either the private wake the night before or the hotel where all these folk stay the night before...)
2014-01-28 01:05:48 PM  
1 votes:

El Supe: purdeyisa10: Seven decades of kicking fascist ass.
Now that's entertainment.

I'm not going to win any popularity contests here but when the Soviet Union was aligned with Germany 1939-1941 Seeger was a vociferous opponent of the US getting  into the war.  He followed the party line.  Then when Fascist Germany and Communist Russia had a falling out, that's when he became anti-Fascist. He and his folk group had released a song just before the German attack on Russia in 1941 attacking Roosevelt for aiding the Democratic countries, then they had to change the lyrics 180 degrees and tried to get back as many of the 'politically incorrect" records as they could.


he was wrong about something when he was young 75 years ago
2014-01-28 01:04:19 PM  
1 votes:

FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

[static4.wikia.nocookie.net image 846x846]


You have no concept of sociological constructs and are probably great fun at parties.
2014-01-28 11:11:32 AM  
1 votes:
Goodbye Pete.

Stand up, damned of the Earth
Stand up, prisoners of starvation
Reason thunders in its volcano
This is the eruption of the end.
Of the past let us make a clean slate
Enslaved masses, stand up, stand up.
The world is about to change its foundation
We are nothing, let us be all.
This is the final struggle
Let us group together, and tomorrow
The Internationale
Will be the human race.

There are no supreme saviours
Neither God, nor Caesar, nor tribune.
Producers, let us save ourselves,
Decree the common salvation.
So that the thief expires,
So that the spirit be pulled from its prison,
Let us fan our forge ourselves
Strike the iron while it is hot.

The State oppresses and the law cheats.
Tax bleeds the unfortunate.
No duty is imposed on the rich;
The rights of the poor is an empty phrase.
Enough languishing in custody!
Equality wants other laws:
No rights without duties, she says,
Equally, no duties without rights.

Hideous in their apotheosis
The kings of the mine and of the rail.
Have they ever done anything other
Than steal work?
Inside the safeboxes of the gang,
What work had created melted.
By ordering that they give it back,
The people want only their due.

The kings made us drunk with fumes,
Peace among us, war to the tyrants!
Let the armies go on strike,
Stocks in the air, and break ranks.
If they insist, these cannibals
On making heroes of us,
They will know soon that our bullets
Are for our own generals.

Workers, peasants, we are
The great party of labourers.
The earth belongs only to men;
The idle will go to reside elsewhere.
How much of our flesh have they consumed?
But if these ravens, these vultures
Disappeared one of these days,
The sun will shine forever.

This is the final struggle
 Let us group together, and tomorrow
 The Internationale
Will be the human race.

blog.chron.com

/She's just a little younger than you were, Pete. And look what they did to her for trying to get a little more wealth to trickle down
2014-01-28 11:00:10 AM  
1 votes:
See ya over in the other side, Pete.
2014-01-28 10:54:43 AM  
1 votes:
"God speed" has nothing to do with imparting the "speed of God", whatever the heck that means. The prhase is closer to "God speed you", and is a wish for prosperity, not velocity.
2014-01-28 10:48:19 AM  
1 votes:
We ALWAYS take Pete Seeger "Live at Carnegie Hall" with us when we visit my folks place 9hrs away. One of the best travel albums, EVAR!

/Good night, music/activist man.
2014-01-28 10:11:13 AM  
1 votes:
God bless you.  May the image of your rectitude and love and grace inspire us forever!

This man was truly great.  Just look at his enemies!
2014-01-28 10:05:52 AM  
1 votes:
So long, it's been good to know yuh!
2014-01-28 09:50:34 AM  
1 votes:

WanPhat: Pete Seeger was still alive?  Wow, I would have guessed he was gone along time ago.  He's cool, no disrespect, but he seemed old 40 years ago.  I learned about Pete Seeger as a historical figure when I was in grade school and I'm old.


img.fark.net

No biggie, the 2009 inauguration wasn't that big of a media spectacle.
2014-01-28 09:18:09 AM  
1 votes:

aphyd: Will Dylan perform an electric set at his funeral?


OK - that made me laugh.


Lenny_da_Hog: Folk music... That's Barry White, right?


No. That's f**k music.
2014-01-28 09:15:08 AM  
1 votes:

BitwiseShift: Pros:

Extreme courage
Incredible writer
Pursued Justice
Incredible musician
Never got fat
Lived a full life
Admirers in every generation
Prolific song writer
dropped out of Harvard before Bill Gates
and a thousand more


Cons:

Played Banjo.


Hey naw, do NOT mock the Banjo.
2014-01-28 09:13:03 AM  
1 votes:
i500.listal.com
          ***  RIP - The Seether  ***
2014-01-28 09:07:48 AM  
1 votes:
A time to laugh and a time to mourn.

May the wind be at his back on his journey.
2014-01-28 08:52:17 AM  
1 votes:
Why is it sad when someone who's 94 dies?  That's awesome.  90 f*ckin 4!  Great job dude!
2014-01-28 08:44:55 AM  
1 votes:
I will always associate him with the day I interviewed for my current job.  There was a Sacco and Vanzetti display in the main hall of the court house and there was a music box that had some Pete Seegar and Woody Guthrie songs on it.  I went home and looked into both more extensively and loved what I heard.

Thanks for the tunes. Thanks for the effort.  RIP.
2014-01-28 08:34:02 AM  
1 votes:

FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

[static4.wikia.nocookie.net image 846x846]


Pour yourself another double martini for Joe.

Troubadors have always been part of social awareness and revolutionary movements. you forget who the Conservatives and industrialists were supporting and emulating during the 1920s and 30s.
2014-01-28 08:25:07 AM  
1 votes:
RIP Pete. You were an inspiration to a lot of people.
2014-01-28 08:21:18 AM  
1 votes:

AlwaysRightBoy: My family used to belong to the Clearwater Society in the 70s and 80s and we used to take the ship out of the long pier just south of Nyack. Sailed up and down the Hudson on that sloop many a time. He used sing a lot on board and was a great guy to talk to.

Last time I saw him perform was at the South Street piers a good ten years ago.

/good times


I remember seeing him at ClearwaIter in 2011. It was an amazing performance. Arlo was there, too.
2014-01-28 08:15:18 AM  
1 votes:

Lee Jackson Beauregard: snowybunting: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 393x393]

He was good folk. RIP sir.

Yeah, but does it kill fascists?


No, that was Woody Guthrie's guitar.  The banjo was Seeger's response to that,
2014-01-28 08:15:11 AM  
1 votes:
Good night, Activist Music Man. :(
2014-01-28 08:12:47 AM  
1 votes:
A time to weep, indeed.
2014-01-28 08:10:27 AM  
1 votes:

snowybunting: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 393x393]

He was good folk. RIP sir.


Yeah, but does it kill fascists?
2014-01-28 08:09:01 AM  
1 votes:

TommyymmoT: While most certainly a loss, you have to admit that 94 years is a pretty good run.


This.  May he rest in peace.
2014-01-28 07:49:53 AM  
1 votes:

foo monkey: vudukungfu: Goodnight, Irene.

No, that's Dexy's Midnight Runners.

/rip singy man.


Thought is was Huddy Ledbetter.
2014-01-28 07:48:46 AM  
1 votes:
Coincidentally, I just watched the "Greenwich Village: Music That Defined a Generation" documentary on Netflix last night, which featured a lot on Pete Seeger. I never was much of a folkie, but I've gained an appreciation for it after watching the film. Seeger was a remarkable guy who helped make the world a better place. Godspeed, sir... and thanks for all you did.
2014-01-28 07:45:53 AM  
1 votes:

vudukungfu: Goodnight, Irene.


No, that's Dexy's Midnight Runners.

/rip singy man.
2014-01-28 07:41:36 AM  
1 votes:
What color was thr snske my dear?Green and Yeller
Green and
2014-01-28 07:30:30 AM  
1 votes:
Given that his wife died last year (she was 91), this was coming, but it still hurts.
2014-01-28 07:30:11 AM  
1 votes:
Hell of a run. 94's better than his contemporaries.Still, damn.
2014-01-28 07:26:27 AM  
1 votes:
:(

/Think Globally. Act Locally.
2014-01-28 07:19:51 AM  
1 votes:
Thanks for making me cry, I guess.

/never fail to get weepy with that song
//RIP
2014-01-28 07:19:29 AM  
1 votes:

userserve-ak.last.fm

RIP BoB Seger


/used to smoke five packs of cigarettes a day
 
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