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(The New York Times)   Where have all the flowers gone? Pete Seeger has gone at age 94   (nytimes.com) divider line 188
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2014-01-28 10:26:12 AM

Danger Mouse: firsttiger: Puff the Magic Dragon is the one that makes me cry every time.

RIP.

That was Peter Paul and Mary.


I'm taking my cat to the vet today for the final trip. I may not be all in there when it comes to who sings what at this moment.
 
2014-01-28 10:29:05 AM

exparrot: FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

fark you you cynical fark. Music has always been an inspirational force and the fact that it can move people to action is a historical fact.
His music quite literally had an impact, an effect.It changed the course of history without a bullet, without a gun.

I would love to know what outside influences define your personal ethos, unless of course it is all entirely based on a personally written manifesto.


Pretty sure trolling was the only "personal ethos" on display there.
 
2014-01-28 10:30:16 AM

aphyd: Will Dylan perform an electric set at his funeral?


Doubt it.  Dylan's not a big fan of the commies.  No money in it.
 
2014-01-28 10:38:30 AM
Farewell banjo-man. We will always remember your Kingston Trio covers.
 
2014-01-28 10:38:47 AM
So long, Uncle Pete. Thanks for all the boat rides.I eventually realized that you'd written all those wonderful songs I grew up with.
 
2014-01-28 10:40:51 AM

firsttiger: Danger Mouse: firsttiger: Puff the Magic Dragon is the one that makes me cry every time.

RIP.

That was Peter Paul and Mary.

I'm taking my cat to the vet today for the final trip. I may not be all in there when it comes to who sings what at this moment.


I'm sincerly sorry to hear that.  As a cat lover and someone who had to do that this past spring, I understand what day your having.

Take care.
 
2014-01-28 10:48:19 AM
We ALWAYS take Pete Seeger "Live at Carnegie Hall" with us when we visit my folks place 9hrs away. One of the best travel albums, EVAR!

/Good night, music/activist man.
 
2014-01-28 10:54:43 AM
"God speed" has nothing to do with imparting the "speed of God", whatever the heck that means. The prhase is closer to "God speed you", and is a wish for prosperity, not velocity.
 
2014-01-28 10:56:11 AM

same_old_mess: exparrot: FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

fark you you cynical fark. Music has always been an inspirational force and the fact that it can move people to action is a historical fact.
His music quite literally had an impact, an effect.It changed the course of history without a bullet, without a gun.

I would love to know what outside influences define your personal ethos, unless of course it is all entirely based on a personally written manifesto.

Pretty sure trolling was the only "personal ethos" on display there.


goddammitsomuch. I can't tell anymore. Poe's law and all that.
 
2014-01-28 11:00:10 AM
See ya over in the other side, Pete.
 
2014-01-28 11:03:31 AM

Danger Mouse: firsttiger: 

I'm taking my cat to the vet today for the final trip. I may not be all in there when it comes to who sings what at this moment.

I'm sincerly sorry to hear that.  As a cat lover and someone who had to do that this past spring, I understand what day your having.

Take care.


Thank you. And yes, my next step is to find that SOB Murphy and tell him what I think of his damn law.

In all fairness, it was a very stupid mistake and likely made my folk-lovin' MIL roll in her grave. This should really be a read not post day for me with that level of distraction.

/miss her
//could have done without the olatunji
///totally think of her when I hear Clancy Brothers
 
2014-01-28 11:06:08 AM
firsttiger:

I'm taking my cat to the vet today for the final trip. I may not be all in there when it comes to who sings what at this moment.

Pete will keep an eye on him. Pete loved cats.

No worries.
 
2014-01-28 11:10:07 AM

WanPhat: Pete Seeger was still alive?  Wow, I would have guessed he was gone along time ago.  He's cool, no disrespect, but he seemed old 40 years ago.  I learned about Pete Seeger as a historical figure when I was in grade school and I'm old.


He was 54 40 years ago, so compared to the other musicians of the '70s, he WAS old. His musical prime was @ 1946 - 1964.

I'm surprised to see so little True Patriot hatin' on Pete. He WAS a communist in the 1930s and '40s, one of those naive folk who first embraced the Soviet Union, then thought Stalin was the only problem with the USSR. I'd be really interested to hear those conversations in 1939 among American anti-fascists, after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was announced.

/Bolsheviks and fascists are just mafia gangsters who mouth different philosophies.
 
2014-01-28 11:11:32 AM
Goodbye Pete.

Stand up, damned of the Earth
Stand up, prisoners of starvation
Reason thunders in its volcano
This is the eruption of the end.
Of the past let us make a clean slate
Enslaved masses, stand up, stand up.
The world is about to change its foundation
We are nothing, let us be all.
This is the final struggle
Let us group together, and tomorrow
The Internationale
Will be the human race.

There are no supreme saviours
Neither God, nor Caesar, nor tribune.
Producers, let us save ourselves,
Decree the common salvation.
So that the thief expires,
So that the spirit be pulled from its prison,
Let us fan our forge ourselves
Strike the iron while it is hot.

The State oppresses and the law cheats.
Tax bleeds the unfortunate.
No duty is imposed on the rich;
The rights of the poor is an empty phrase.
Enough languishing in custody!
Equality wants other laws:
No rights without duties, she says,
Equally, no duties without rights.

Hideous in their apotheosis
The kings of the mine and of the rail.
Have they ever done anything other
Than steal work?
Inside the safeboxes of the gang,
What work had created melted.
By ordering that they give it back,
The people want only their due.

The kings made us drunk with fumes,
Peace among us, war to the tyrants!
Let the armies go on strike,
Stocks in the air, and break ranks.
If they insist, these cannibals
On making heroes of us,
They will know soon that our bullets
Are for our own generals.

Workers, peasants, we are
The great party of labourers.
The earth belongs only to men;
The idle will go to reside elsewhere.
How much of our flesh have they consumed?
But if these ravens, these vultures
Disappeared one of these days,
The sun will shine forever.

This is the final struggle
 Let us group together, and tomorrow
 The Internationale
Will be the human race.

blog.chron.com

/She's just a little younger than you were, Pete. And look what they did to her for trying to get a little more wealth to trickle down
 
2014-01-28 11:15:47 AM

FrancoFile: If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.


And if you can't distinguish between Jam Bands and Folk, you should probably just go back to bed.
 
2014-01-28 11:24:53 AM

JeffKochosky: RIP Pete's Dragon


A dragon lives forever but not so little boys
Painted wings and giant rings make way for other toys
One gray night it happened, Peter Seeger came no more
And Puff that mighty dragon, he ceased his fearless roar
His head was bent in sorrow, green scales fell like rain
Puff no longer went to play along the cherry lane
Without his life-long friend, Puff could not be brave
So Puff that mighty dragon sadly slipped into his cave

Not Pete, but seems fitting
 
2014-01-28 11:40:17 AM
First Mandela and now Seeger...the 94 club claims another social activist.
 
2014-01-28 11:50:17 AM
RIP. I sing Summertime to my son almost every night. I used to sing it to my daughter.

Hammer on!
 
2014-01-28 11:55:30 AM
94 years,not too bad. His music and ideals will live on. I'd say he has lived a good, meaningful life.
 
2014-01-28 12:00:57 PM

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RIP ALEX REIGER

 
2014-01-28 12:17:53 PM

BitwiseShift: Pros:

Extreme courage
Incredible writer
Pursued Justice
Incredible musician
Never got fat
Lived a full life
Admirers in every generation
Prolific song writer
dropped out of Harvard before Bill Gates
and a thousand more


Cons:

Played Banjo.

Pro-Stalin (until the 1990s)
 
2014-01-28 12:33:37 PM
I never heard of this guy.  I heard of him on NPR this morning in the shower and remember thinking, "I never heard of this guy".  I had heard plenty of his music, it turns out.
 
2014-01-28 12:36:28 PM

jigger: Pro-Stalin (until the 1990s)


Nope.
 
2014-01-28 12:37:52 PM
I was introduced to Pete on Reading Rainbow:

www.papertigers.org

RIP sir.
 
2014-01-28 12:41:40 PM

someonelse: jigger: Pro-Stalin (until the 1990s)

Nope.


You don't have to believe me. Go look it up.
 
2014-01-28 12:47:12 PM

jigger: someonelse: jigger: Pro-Stalin (until the 1990s)

Nope.

You don't have to believe me. Go look it up.


His autobiography was published in the early 1990s, in which he apologized for being completely wrong about Stalin. But he didn't just wake up one morning in 1993 and declare, "Hey, turns out that Stalin guy was a jackass!" He had been commenting on that issue well before that. Go look it up.
 
2014-01-28 12:50:15 PM

someonelse: jigger: Pro-Stalin (until the 1990s)

Nope.


This. Pro communist in it's very basic, never gonna happen state.
 
2014-01-28 12:55:57 PM
Taught me way more about American history than any class in high school.

A huge loss.
 
2014-01-28 12:57:10 PM
Goodnight Big Forearmed Man.

static.tvtropes.org
 
2014-01-28 12:58:19 PM

jigger: someonelse: jigger: Pro-Stalin (until the 1990s)

Nope.

You don't have to believe me. Go look it up.


It is almost like there isnt a black and white answer to the issue.
 
2014-01-28 01:03:56 PM

purdeyisa10: Seven decades of kicking fascist ass.
Now that's entertainment.


I'm not going to win any popularity contests here but when the Soviet Union was aligned with Germany 1939-1941 Seeger was a vociferous opponent of the US getting  into the war.  He followed the party line.  Then when Fascist Germany and Communist Russia had a falling out, that's when he became anti-Fascist. He and his folk group had released a song just before the German attack on Russia in 1941 attacking Roosevelt for aiding the Democratic countries, then they had to change the lyrics 180 degrees and tried to get back as many of the 'politically incorrect" records as they could.
 
2014-01-28 01:04:19 PM

FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

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You have no concept of sociological constructs and are probably great fun at parties.
 
2014-01-28 01:05:48 PM

El Supe: purdeyisa10: Seven decades of kicking fascist ass.
Now that's entertainment.

I'm not going to win any popularity contests here but when the Soviet Union was aligned with Germany 1939-1941 Seeger was a vociferous opponent of the US getting  into the war.  He followed the party line.  Then when Fascist Germany and Communist Russia had a falling out, that's when he became anti-Fascist. He and his folk group had released a song just before the German attack on Russia in 1941 attacking Roosevelt for aiding the Democratic countries, then they had to change the lyrics 180 degrees and tried to get back as many of the 'politically incorrect" records as they could.


he was wrong about something when he was young 75 years ago
 
2014-01-28 01:18:11 PM
So let's predict the set lest for his funeral:
Arlo Gutherie
Bob Dylan
Bruce Springstien
The surviving members of Peter Paul and Mary
Leonard Cohen
John Cale

who else?

(and fark the funeral, the greatest place say you were for years to come, would be either the private wake the night before or the hotel where all these folk stay the night before...)
 
2014-01-28 01:21:59 PM
Fun fact: Seeger and Woody Guthrie were introduced to each other by Grandpa Walton

will-geer.journal-of-life.com
 
2014-01-28 01:27:27 PM

purdeyisa10: Seven decades of kicking fascist ass.
Now that's entertainment.


Actually he was totes cool with fascists until they invaded the USSR.  Other than that, you're spot on.

But maybe those were just nazis with a small "n."  Makes all the difference.
 
2014-01-28 01:28:07 PM

TimSTP: Fun fact: Seeger and Woody Guthrie were introduced to each other by Grandpa Walton

[will-geer.journal-of-life.com image 352x307]


Was he the one that put Seeger up to ripping off Guthrie's music?
 
2014-01-28 01:45:47 PM

exparrot: same_old_mess: exparrot: FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

fark you you cynical fark. Music has always been an inspirational force and the fact that it can move people to action is a historical fact.
His music quite literally had an impact, an effect.It changed the course of history without a bullet, without a gun.

I would love to know what outside influences define your personal ethos, unless of course it is all entirely based on a personally written manifesto.

Pretty sure trolling was the only "personal ethos" on display there.

goddammitsomuch. I can't tell anymore. Poe's law and all that.


:-)

It was about 80% troll and 20% honest.  I'm surprised I didn't hook more.

But more words will be spilled over Seeger in the next week than have ever been written in the popular media about WEB DuBois, Frederick Douglass, and Paul Laurence Dunbar.  And that makes me sad.
 
2014-01-28 01:46:09 PM

Magorn: So let's predict the set lest for his funeral:
Arlo Gutherie
Bob Dylan
Bruce Springstien
The surviving members of Peter Paul and Mary
Leonard Cohen
John Cale

who else?

(and fark the funeral, the greatest place say you were for years to come, would be either the private wake the night before or the hotel where all these folk stay the night before...)


Roger McGuinn?
 
2014-01-28 01:49:09 PM
marxistleninist.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-28 02:01:14 PM
www.ausairpower.net

R.I.P. Heat Seeker
 
2014-01-28 02:04:15 PM
Oklahoma
 
2014-01-28 02:10:09 PM
Pete Seeger is finally a Good Communist

He's  dead
 
2014-01-28 02:21:28 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Pete Seeger is finally a Good Communist

He's  dead


You dont have to explain jokes to people.
 
2014-01-28 02:47:35 PM
RIP Mr. Seeger.   Today we have lost a legend.
 
2014-01-28 02:51:09 PM
Deathfrogg:
Any link? Youtube is not particularly forthcoming...

Thanks for that background, BTW. Much appreciated.
 
2014-01-28 02:58:04 PM

R.A.Danny: someonelse: jigger: Pro-Stalin (until the 1990s)

Nope.

This. Pro communist in it's very basic, never gonna happen state.


It infuriates me that conservatives pillory naive ex-Communists, and yet they absolve anyone who was an extremist on the right, like the Birchers and the Ayn Rand cultists and the KKK.
 
2014-01-28 02:59:51 PM

gaslight: I've been trying to track down a Pete Seeger song I heard on As It Happens once. I believe it was in the late 80s at the Democratic national convention. It was a humorous song about politicians called 'They Lie'. Anyone know it?


Are you perhaps thinking of this?

The Ross Perot Guide to Answering Embarrassing Questions.
 
2014-01-28 03:03:23 PM

Gunny Highway: Clemkadidlefark: Pete Seeger is finally a Good Communist

He's  dead

You dont have to explain jokes to people.


No, but he has to explain it to himself
 
2014-01-28 03:10:41 PM
Last night I had the strangest dream...

I dreamed I was playing the banjo.  I haven't touched a banjo for probably ten-twelve years.  I was a "self-taught" banjo player, right out of Pete's red book.

Pete Seeger was not perfect...he was wrong about some things...he was maybe more wrapped up in his causes than he was in his family...but Pete Seeger did more good for humanity before breakfast yesterday than most of us will in an entire lifetime.

He was a great man.
 
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