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(The New York Times)   Where have all the flowers gone? Pete Seeger has gone at age 94   (nytimes.com ) divider line
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2014-01-28 01:55:51 AM  
While most certainly a loss, you have to admit that 94 years is a pretty good run.
 
2014-01-28 07:17:12 AM  
The usual fake RIP wishes will come shortly, but I wouldn't be surprised if some dumbass DJ started playing "Night Moves" in his honor.
 
2014-01-28 07:19:29 AM  

userserve-ak.last.fm

RIP BoB Seger


/used to smoke five packs of cigarettes a day
 
2014-01-28 07:19:51 AM  
Thanks for making me cry, I guess.

/never fail to get weepy with that song
//RIP
 
2014-01-28 07:20:08 AM  
very sad day, a time to weep.. God speed, Mr. Seeger
 
2014-01-28 07:22:29 AM  
I remember him coming to our elementary school (suburban Long Island) in the early 60s.  I have always loved his passion and his music. The world is a sadder place for his loss.
 
2014-01-28 07:24:01 AM  
Was it the crushing pain of the Grammy defeat?
 
2014-01-28 07:25:24 AM  
Puff the Magic Dragon is the one that makes me cry every time.

RIP.
 
2014-01-28 07:26:27 AM  
:(

/Think Globally. Act Locally.
 
2014-01-28 07:27:46 AM  
Boy this sucks, I really loved "Alice's Restaurant".
 
2014-01-28 07:30:11 AM  
Hell of a run. 94's better than his contemporaries.Still, damn.
 
2014-01-28 07:30:30 AM  
Given that his wife died last year (she was 91), this was coming, but it still hurts.
 
2014-01-28 07:31:38 AM  
Goodnight, Irene.
 
2014-01-28 07:34:42 AM  
RIP something something
 
2014-01-28 07:37:20 AM  
My family used to belong to the Clearwater Society in the 70s and 80s and we used to take the ship out of the long pier just south of Nyack. Sailed up and down the Hudson on that sloop many a time. He used sing a lot on board and was a great guy to talk to.

Last time I saw him perform was at the South Street piers a good ten years ago.

/good times
 
2014-01-28 07:37:25 AM  

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RIP CEEGAR

 
2014-01-28 07:37:42 AM  
Is he the one mentioned in the title of the Pink Floyd classic "Have a Seeger?"
 
2014-01-28 07:41:36 AM  
What color was thr snske my dear?Green and Yeller
Green and
 
2014-01-28 07:44:15 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: Given that his wife died last year (she was 91), this was coming, but it still hurts.


Just a hair shy of their 70th wedding anniversary. Imagine that.

/peace, Mr.Seeger
 
2014-01-28 07:45:53 AM  

vudukungfu: Goodnight, Irene.


No, that's Dexy's Midnight Runners.

/rip singy man.
 
2014-01-28 07:46:13 AM  
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He was good folk. RIP sir.
 
2014-01-28 07:48:46 AM  
Coincidentally, I just watched the "Greenwich Village: Music That Defined a Generation" documentary on Netflix last night, which featured a lot on Pete Seeger. I never was much of a folkie, but I've gained an appreciation for it after watching the film. Seeger was a remarkable guy who helped make the world a better place. Godspeed, sir... and thanks for all you did.
 
2014-01-28 07:49:53 AM  

foo monkey: vudukungfu: Goodnight, Irene.

No, that's Dexy's Midnight Runners.

/rip singy man.


Thought is was Huddy Ledbetter.
 
2014-01-28 07:50:42 AM  

TommyymmoT: While most certainly a loss, you have to admit that 94 years is a pretty good run.


Indeed. I can merely hope that this sack of meat and water holds out anywhere near that long.
 
2014-01-28 07:53:56 AM  
A wonderful man who stood strong for his beliefs. Would not name "Commie" friends to the fascist Joe McCarthey's UnAmerican's Commitee. Lost a lot of money in sponsorships and was banned from TV because of his silence, but money was not what drove Pete. His songs were not only beautiful to listen but they brought people together to fight for civil rights, peace, justice, the environment, union rights. He was one of the key players in getting the Hudson River cleaned up. They don't make men like Pete Seeger anymore. God bless.
 
2014-01-28 07:54:40 AM  
This guy is huge.  Amazing influence on our culture.
 
2014-01-28 07:55:10 AM  
A time to be born, a time to die.
 
2014-01-28 07:56:53 AM  
Caught the NPR story on the way in this morning. It ended with his son (I think) saying that Pete ended up doubting that the pen (and the banjo) really were mightier than the sword -- that he felt like he'd failed in his mission. That brought a lump to my throat.

Pete, you may not have made it to the Promised Land -- but I think we'd be much further from it if not for you. I'd like to think that somewhere, somehow, you know that now.
 
2014-01-28 07:57:52 AM  
I detest most folk music, but Seeger was a good guy. We're a poorer nation now that he's gone.
 
2014-01-28 07:59:37 AM  

GeeksAreMyPeeps: Was it the crushing pain of the Grammy defeat?


That he lost to Stephen Colbert. Could be an interesting Colbert Report tonight.
 
2014-01-28 08:04:46 AM  
I went to see him at a college concert, back in the day.  At one point, another student jumped up on stage and used the mic to announce that the National Guard had fired upon and killed students at Kent State.  The gym erupted with a mixture of anger and confusion.  Good ol' Pete then tried his best to keep the lid on the crowd, pleading for peace and calm.

Many ignored his advice, though, and the campus was closed for a few days during the aftermath.  Poignant memory.
 
2014-01-28 08:09:01 AM  

TommyymmoT: While most certainly a loss, you have to admit that 94 years is a pretty good run.


This.  May he rest in peace.
 
2014-01-28 08:09:21 AM  

GibbyTheMole: Coincidentally, I just watched the "Greenwich Village: Music That Defined a Generation" documentary on Netflix last night, which featured a lot on Pete Seeger. I never was much of a folkie, but I've gained an appreciation for it after watching the film. Seeger was a remarkable guy who helped make the world a better place. Godspeed, sir... and thanks for all you did.


Pete's a great point to get into the folk movement(s) in this country, as he was part of several of them, from looking for songs in the South in the 30s to the anti-fascist movement in the 40s to the rise of popular folk in the 50s and early 60s.  He always gave credit when he sang someone else's song, and knew the origins of most traditional folk songs as back as far as they could be traced (his father was a Harvard-trained musicologist).

About the only thing he didn't like was the lyrics to "Greensleeves", which became a running joke for the Weavers.
 
2014-01-28 08:09:51 AM  
Pete Seeger was a true patriot.
 
2014-01-28 08:10:27 AM  

snowybunting: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 393x393]

He was good folk. RIP sir.


Yeah, but does it kill fascists?
 
2014-01-28 08:11:26 AM  
He played "concerts" at my high school.

I was too stupid then to realize what a treasure that was.

RIP Mr. Seeger
 
2014-01-28 08:12:47 AM  
A time to weep, indeed.
 
2014-01-28 08:13:06 AM  
Long time passing...

/Farewell, Mr. Seeger
//Thank you
 
2014-01-28 08:13:48 AM  
Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

static4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-01-28 08:14:15 AM  

jfarkinB: Caught the NPR story on the way in this morning. It ended with his son (I think) saying that Pete ended up doubting that the pen (and the banjo) really were mightier than the sword -- that he felt like he'd failed in his mission. That brought a lump to my throat.

Pete, you may not have made it to the Promised Land -- but I think we'd be much further from it if not for you. I'd like to think that somewhere, somehow, you know that now.


That was actually his grandson, Tau. Nice guy. Also a musician.
 
2014-01-28 08:15:11 AM  
Good night, Activist Music Man. :(
 
2014-01-28 08:15:18 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: snowybunting: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 393x393]

He was good folk. RIP sir.

Yeah, but does it kill fascists?


No, that was Woody Guthrie's guitar.  The banjo was Seeger's response to that,
 
2014-01-28 08:15:26 AM  

SoupJohnB: I went to see him at a college concert, back in the day.  At one point, another student jumped up on stage and used the mic to announce that the National Guard had fired upon and killed students at Kent State.  The gym erupted with a mixture of anger and confusion.  Good ol' Pete then tried his best to keep the lid on the crowd, pleading for peace and calm.

Many ignored his advice, though, and the campus was closed for a few days during the aftermath.  Poignant memory.


Wow. That's quite a moment.
 
2014-01-28 08:21:18 AM  

AlwaysRightBoy: My family used to belong to the Clearwater Society in the 70s and 80s and we used to take the ship out of the long pier just south of Nyack. Sailed up and down the Hudson on that sloop many a time. He used sing a lot on board and was a great guy to talk to.

Last time I saw him perform was at the South Street piers a good ten years ago.

/good times


I remember seeing him at ClearwaIter in 2011. It was an amazing performance. Arlo was there, too.
 
2014-01-28 08:23:08 AM  
That'll do, Pete. That'll do.
 
2014-01-28 08:24:54 AM  
He's up heaven, workin' on his night moves.
 
2014-01-28 08:25:07 AM  
RIP Pete. You were an inspiration to a lot of people.
 
2014-01-28 08:25:36 AM  
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RIP Pete's Dragon

 
2014-01-28 08:26:38 AM  
He sang "This Land is Your Land" at Obama's inauguration. RIP Old Commie Bastard.
 
2014-01-28 08:28:39 AM  

ginandbacon: SoupJohnB: I went to see him at a college concert, back in the day.  At one point, another student jumped up on stage and used the mic to announce that the National Guard had fired upon and killed students at Kent State.  The gym erupted with a mixture of anger and confusion.  Good ol' Pete then tried his best to keep the lid on the crowd, pleading for peace and calm.

Many ignored his advice, though, and the campus was closed for a few days during the aftermath.  Poignant memory.

Wow. That's quite a moment.


So was facing my father back home, who was clutching a "Nastygram" from the college dean!
 
2014-01-28 08:31:50 AM  

IrieTom: Pete Seeger was a true patriot.


The most patriotic ex-Stalinist ever.

No, really. I live near the Hudson so it was impossible for anybody not to have crossed paths with Pete at least once or twice. I almost ran him over when he was protesting on a narrow local highway median one afternoon and didn't realize that whenever he stopped playing he'd leave his banjo sticking out into traffic coming at him from behind. Anybody else would've gotten a bunch of "watch where you're going, dickhead" but it was just Pete being Pete so people waved. And he had a wonderful ability to have calm arguments even with people who were all the way on the opposite end of the spectrum from him. Not that they'd agree with him, but they'd walk away respecting each other.

Needless to say, Pete didn't have a Fark handle.
 
2014-01-28 08:34:02 AM  

FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

[static4.wikia.nocookie.net image 846x846]


Pour yourself another double martini for Joe.

Troubadors have always been part of social awareness and revolutionary movements. you forget who the Conservatives and industrialists were supporting and emulating during the 1920s and 30s.
 
2014-01-28 08:34:04 AM  

SoupJohnB: ginandbacon: SoupJohnB: I went to see him at a college concert, back in the day.  At one point, another student jumped up on stage and used the mic to announce that the National Guard had fired upon and killed students at Kent State.  The gym erupted with a mixture of anger and confusion.  Good ol' Pete then tried his best to keep the lid on the crowd, pleading for peace and calm.

Many ignored his advice, though, and the campus was closed for a few days during the aftermath.  Poignant memory.

Wow. That's quite a moment.

So was facing my father back home, who was clutching a "Nastygram" from the college dean!


Hahahaha!!! Oh dear!
 
2014-01-28 08:35:06 AM  
Can't say I agreed with all of his opinions, but he was brave enough to stand by the unpopular beliefs, and honest enough to let his ideas evolve. But his core seemed to be peace, music, and freedom. Those ideas didn't need a lot of change. If you have a chance to check the American Masters episode on Pete, it's certainly worth it. You'll find his old TV show Rainbow Quest at YouTube.


/Heard indirectly a quote from Arlo Guthrie "Of course he died. Doesn't mean he's gone.'
 
2014-01-28 08:35:38 AM  
Time to go into your little box made of ticky-tacky, Pete. Will it be a green one, a pink one, a blue one or a yellow one? Link

/Whatever one it is, I hope they slap a peace sign sticker on it. And paint some flowers on it.
//RIP old friend I never met
 
2014-01-28 08:40:31 AM  
Will Dylan perform an electric set at his funeral?
 
2014-01-28 08:40:47 AM  

varmitydog: Time to go into your little box made of ticky-tacky, Pete. Will it be a green one, a pink one, a blue one or a yellow one? Link

/Whatever one it is, I hope they slap a peace sign sticker on it. And paint some flowers on it.
//RIP old friend I never met


That was Malvina Reynolds. Another one of the old agitators. Smart woman.
 
2014-01-28 08:42:12 AM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: He played "concerts" at my high school.

I was too stupid then to realize what a treasure that was.

RIP Mr. Seeger


Obligatory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VucczIg98Gw
 
2014-01-28 08:44:39 AM  
I've been trying to track down a Pete Seeger song I heard on As It Happens once. I believe it was in the late 80s at the Democratic national convention. It was a humorous song about politicians called 'They Lie'. Anyone know it?
 
2014-01-28 08:44:55 AM  
I will always associate him with the day I interviewed for my current job.  There was a Sacco and Vanzetti display in the main hall of the court house and there was a music box that had some Pete Seegar and Woody Guthrie songs on it.  I went home and looked into both more extensively and loved what I heard.

Thanks for the tunes. Thanks for the effort.  RIP.
 
2014-01-28 08:47:30 AM  
Folk music... That's Barry White, right?
 
2014-01-28 08:52:17 AM  
Why is it sad when someone who's 94 dies?  That's awesome.  90 f*ckin 4!  Great job dude!
 
2014-01-28 08:53:36 AM  

vudukungfu: foo monkey: vudukungfu: Goodnight, Irene.

No, that's Dexy's Midnight Runners.

/rip singy man.

Thought is was Huddy Ledbetter.


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That's "Hedley"
 
2014-01-28 08:53:42 AM  
Bum ditty bum ditty.
 
2014-01-28 08:58:15 AM  
RIP Awesome Protest Guy

Are the going to bury him waist deep in the big muddy?
 
2014-01-28 08:59:45 AM  

foo monkey: vudukungfu: Goodnight, Irene.

No, that's Dexy's Midnight Runners.

/rip singy man.


Dexy's Midnight Runners sang about Eileen.


And hopefully, Pete Seeger's coffin will not be made out of ticky tacky boxes that come in many colors like green and pink.
 
2014-01-28 09:00:10 AM  

FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

[static4.wikia.nocookie.net image 846x846]


Given that his career stretched from the 40s to the 10s, you're going to be hearing from a lot more than Baby Boomers in the coming days.  Basically, anyone who picked up an acoustic guitar (especially a 12-string) or a banjo in this country in the last 50 years was influenced by him in some way
 
2014-01-28 09:01:47 AM  
The last time I saw Pete live was at the Takoma Park Folk Festival back in 90's. He was as vibrant a soul as you'd ever want to see. His energy level was amazing for someone of his age. He still had a strong voice then, and led a surprisingly large crowd in several of the old anthems.

// So long Pete, it's been good to know ya !
 
2014-01-28 09:07:48 AM  
A time to laugh and a time to mourn.

May the wind be at his back on his journey.
 
2014-01-28 09:07:58 AM  
Pros:

Extreme courage
Incredible writer
Pursued Justice
Incredible musician
Never got fat
Lived a full life
Admirers in every generation
Prolific song writer
dropped out of Harvard before Bill Gates
and a thousand more


Cons:

Played Banjo.
 
2014-01-28 09:09:28 AM  

gaslight: I've been trying to track down a Pete Seeger song I heard on As It Happens once. I believe it was in the late 80s at the Democratic national convention. It was a humorous song about politicians called 'They Lie'. Anyone know it?


That was an old Wobblie song, taken directly from verses in the old KJV of the Bible which was (and probably still is) the most common version out there. Pete Seeger sung it, as did Woody Guthrie and I believe that it was first done by Malvina Reynolds or Joe Hill.

Folk music of the sort that Guthrie, Hill and Reynolds were singing in the 1930s would likely have been more popular, a lot of their musicology was trending toward that of Japan, with lyrical traditions right out of Ireland and Scotland, interestingly enough. It was the development of recorded music that changed how music was distributed. The first songs put on recordings were traditional folk songs out of Appalachia, the South and the Allegheny mountains that were already rather common amongst the itinerant workers that made up much of the labor force across the Country. Back then, much of the labor force was migratory, and people had to be seamstresses, machinists, loggers, miners or farmworkers all at the same time. One day a man could be felling timber, a few weeks later chopping hard rock in a mine, a couple months later his wife would be working in a textile factory while he and the kids were picking fruit.

But Japan shelled the USS Panay in 1937 and nixed much of that music when anti-Japanese sentiment swept the country. We ended up with the swing/jazz era instead. But the old traditional gospel/folk/ country music was the original tradition. Bluegrass, Blues and gospel music. Jazz only got popular because thats where the money was.
 
2014-01-28 09:12:05 AM  

FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

[static4.wikia.nocookie.net image 846x846]


And you will stay in your basement, angry and alone.
 
2014-01-28 09:13:03 AM  
i500.listal.com
          ***  RIP - The Seether  ***
 
2014-01-28 09:15:05 AM  

BitwiseShift: Pros:

Extreme courage
Incredible writer
Pursued Justice
Incredible musician
Never got fat
Lived a full life
Admirers in every generation
Prolific song writer
dropped out of Harvard before Bill Gates
and a thousand more


Cons:

Played Banjo.


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2014-01-28 09:15:08 AM  

BitwiseShift: Pros:

Extreme courage
Incredible writer
Pursued Justice
Incredible musician
Never got fat
Lived a full life
Admirers in every generation
Prolific song writer
dropped out of Harvard before Bill Gates
and a thousand more


Cons:

Played Banjo.


Hey naw, do NOT mock the Banjo.
 
2014-01-28 09:18:09 AM  

aphyd: Will Dylan perform an electric set at his funeral?


OK - that made me laugh.


Lenny_da_Hog: Folk music... That's Barry White, right?


No. That's f**k music.
 
2014-01-28 09:22:37 AM  

aphyd: Will Dylan perform an electric set at his funeral?


www.trbimg.com
 
2014-01-28 09:24:31 AM  
I made the mistake of reading the comments on the yahell version of this article.

It made me terribly sad.

RIP Pete.  Many agreed with you and many didn't, but you were always a gentleman when you disagreed.
 
2014-01-28 09:26:08 AM  
www.nndb.com

Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?
 
2014-01-28 09:42:09 AM  
Pete Seeger was still alive?  Wow, I would have guessed he was gone along time ago.  He's cool, no disrespect, but he seemed old 40 years ago.  I learned about Pete Seeger as a historical figure when I was in grade school and I'm old.
 
2014-01-28 09:42:37 AM  
Goodnight, folkyman.
 
2014-01-28 09:46:28 AM  
i260.photobucket.com

Welcome, tovarisch!
 
2014-01-28 09:50:34 AM  

WanPhat: Pete Seeger was still alive?  Wow, I would have guessed he was gone along time ago.  He's cool, no disrespect, but he seemed old 40 years ago.  I learned about Pete Seeger as a historical figure when I was in grade school and I'm old.


img.fark.net

No biggie, the 2009 inauguration wasn't that big of a media spectacle.
 
2014-01-28 09:51:40 AM  
shabu:


/Heard indirectly a quote from Arlo Guthrie "Of course he died. Doesn't mean he's gone.'

" Death is a primitive concept; I prefer to think of [him] as battling evil, in another dimension! "
 
2014-01-28 09:51:55 AM  
If I had a hammer, I would build a coffin for me.....
 
2014-01-28 09:53:40 AM  

img.fark.net

RIP Mike Seaver

 
2014-01-28 09:57:07 AM  
RIP comrade.
 
2014-01-28 09:58:58 AM  
While it certainly is sad news & we are a lesser place with him gone, 94 is a pretty good run & he influenced more people than can be counted.  He will be missed but not forgotten.
 
2014-01-28 09:59:21 AM  
Seven decades of kicking fascist ass.
Now that's entertainment.
 
2014-01-28 10:02:20 AM  

Kyosuke: GeeksAreMyPeeps: Was it the crushing pain of the Grammy defeat?

That he lost to Stephen Colbert. Could be an interesting Colbert Report tonight.


The only reason I know that he was nominated is from the segment on Colbert last night. I guess you could say he got the Colbert bump off.
 
2014-01-28 10:04:41 AM  

BitwiseShift: Cons:

Played Banjo.


Hey, screw you. What I do with a banjo can't really be called "playing" unless one is extremely generous...  but still.

Banjo is awesome.
 
2014-01-28 10:04:53 AM  
Just watched the Rainbow Quest with Mississippi John Hurt, where Pete is just in awe of his guest. Seen it many times, but it never isn't wonderful.  Perhaps that is what is hard to find these day. People that genuinely love music, or is it commies? I can't remember.

I was fortunate that I was raised by a fan of the Folk music that Pete embraced. I was able to pass that along to my daughter.

aphyd: Will Dylan perform an electric set at his funeral?


Bet Dylan wouldn't.
 
2014-01-28 10:05:52 AM  
So long, it's been good to know yuh!
 
2014-01-28 10:06:17 AM  

FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.


fark you you cynical fark. Music has always been an inspirational force and the fact that it can move people to action is a historical fact.
His music quite literally had an impact, an effect.It changed the course of history without a bullet, without a gun.

I would love to know what outside influences define your personal ethos, unless of course it is all entirely based on a personally written manifesto.
 
2014-01-28 10:08:05 AM  

Satan's Bunny Slippers: I made the mistake of reading the comments on the yahell version of this article.

It made me terribly sad.


Shouldn't. Those  (by no means unanimous) comments there, and the one or two we'll get here are a teastamnet to Pete by virtue of who they come from: the tiny handful of human beings who hate Pete Seeger are some of the worst people in the world.
 
2014-01-28 10:11:13 AM  
God bless you.  May the image of your rectitude and love and grace inspire us forever!

This man was truly great.  Just look at his enemies!
 
2014-01-28 10:13:01 AM  

exparrot: I would love to know what outside influences define your personal ethos,


Based on the user name, I would speculate: img.fark.net
 
2014-01-28 10:13:24 AM  

firsttiger: Puff the Magic Dragon is the one that makes me cry every time.

RIP.


That was Peter Paul and Mary.
 
2014-01-28 10:18:12 AM  

Danger Mouse: firsttiger: Puff the Magic Dragon is the one that makes me cry every time.

RIP.

That was Peter Paul and Mary.


Close enough, just go with it....
 
2014-01-28 10:25:28 AM  

dullspork: jfarkinB: Caught the NPR story on the way in this morning. It ended with his son (I think) saying that Pete ended up doubting that the pen (and the banjo) really were mightier than the sword -- that he felt like he'd failed in his mission. That brought a lump to my throat.

Pete, you may not have made it to the Promised Land -- but I think we'd be much further from it if not for you. I'd like to think that somewhere, somehow, you know that now.

That was actually his grandson, Tau. Nice guy. Also a musician.


I got to see Pete Seeger and Arlo Guthrie twice at their Thanksgiving concerts at Carnegie Hall (my wife
and her family are all huge Arlo fans).  Tau was there with him, and indeed he was very good (as was Arlo's daughter & son), but even at 1/3 his Grandpa's age (Pete was in his mid 80s at the time), he didn't
have 1/10th of his energy on stage.

If anyone could transcend petty politics and unite all human beings, it was Pete Seeger.  Too bad almost
no one (on any part of the political spectrum) has that sort of wisdom these days.
 
2014-01-28 10:26:12 AM  

Danger Mouse: firsttiger: Puff the Magic Dragon is the one that makes me cry every time.

RIP.

That was Peter Paul and Mary.


I'm taking my cat to the vet today for the final trip. I may not be all in there when it comes to who sings what at this moment.
 
2014-01-28 10:29:05 AM  

exparrot: FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

fark you you cynical fark. Music has always been an inspirational force and the fact that it can move people to action is a historical fact.
His music quite literally had an impact, an effect.It changed the course of history without a bullet, without a gun.

I would love to know what outside influences define your personal ethos, unless of course it is all entirely based on a personally written manifesto.


Pretty sure trolling was the only "personal ethos" on display there.
 
2014-01-28 10:30:16 AM  

aphyd: Will Dylan perform an electric set at his funeral?


Doubt it.  Dylan's not a big fan of the commies.  No money in it.
 
2014-01-28 10:38:30 AM  
Farewell banjo-man. We will always remember your Kingston Trio covers.
 
2014-01-28 10:38:47 AM  
So long, Uncle Pete. Thanks for all the boat rides.I eventually realized that you'd written all those wonderful songs I grew up with.
 
2014-01-28 10:40:51 AM  

firsttiger: Danger Mouse: firsttiger: Puff the Magic Dragon is the one that makes me cry every time.

RIP.

That was Peter Paul and Mary.

I'm taking my cat to the vet today for the final trip. I may not be all in there when it comes to who sings what at this moment.


I'm sincerly sorry to hear that.  As a cat lover and someone who had to do that this past spring, I understand what day your having.

Take care.
 
2014-01-28 10:48:19 AM  
We ALWAYS take Pete Seeger "Live at Carnegie Hall" with us when we visit my folks place 9hrs away. One of the best travel albums, EVAR!

/Good night, music/activist man.
 
2014-01-28 10:54:43 AM  
"God speed" has nothing to do with imparting the "speed of God", whatever the heck that means. The prhase is closer to "God speed you", and is a wish for prosperity, not velocity.
 
2014-01-28 10:56:11 AM  

same_old_mess: exparrot: FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

fark you you cynical fark. Music has always been an inspirational force and the fact that it can move people to action is a historical fact.
His music quite literally had an impact, an effect.It changed the course of history without a bullet, without a gun.

I would love to know what outside influences define your personal ethos, unless of course it is all entirely based on a personally written manifesto.

Pretty sure trolling was the only "personal ethos" on display there.


goddammitsomuch. I can't tell anymore. Poe's law and all that.
 
2014-01-28 11:00:10 AM  
See ya over in the other side, Pete.
 
2014-01-28 11:03:31 AM  

Danger Mouse: firsttiger: 

I'm taking my cat to the vet today for the final trip. I may not be all in there when it comes to who sings what at this moment.

I'm sincerly sorry to hear that.  As a cat lover and someone who had to do that this past spring, I understand what day your having.

Take care.


Thank you. And yes, my next step is to find that SOB Murphy and tell him what I think of his damn law.

In all fairness, it was a very stupid mistake and likely made my folk-lovin' MIL roll in her grave. This should really be a read not post day for me with that level of distraction.

/miss her
//could have done without the olatunji
///totally think of her when I hear Clancy Brothers
 
2014-01-28 11:06:08 AM  
firsttiger:

I'm taking my cat to the vet today for the final trip. I may not be all in there when it comes to who sings what at this moment.

Pete will keep an eye on him. Pete loved cats.

No worries.
 
2014-01-28 11:10:07 AM  

WanPhat: Pete Seeger was still alive?  Wow, I would have guessed he was gone along time ago.  He's cool, no disrespect, but he seemed old 40 years ago.  I learned about Pete Seeger as a historical figure when I was in grade school and I'm old.


He was 54 40 years ago, so compared to the other musicians of the '70s, he WAS old. His musical prime was @ 1946 - 1964.

I'm surprised to see so little True Patriot hatin' on Pete. He WAS a communist in the 1930s and '40s, one of those naive folk who first embraced the Soviet Union, then thought Stalin was the only problem with the USSR. I'd be really interested to hear those conversations in 1939 among American anti-fascists, after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was announced.

/Bolsheviks and fascists are just mafia gangsters who mouth different philosophies.
 
2014-01-28 11:11:32 AM  
Goodbye Pete.

Stand up, damned of the Earth
Stand up, prisoners of starvation
Reason thunders in its volcano
This is the eruption of the end.
Of the past let us make a clean slate
Enslaved masses, stand up, stand up.
The world is about to change its foundation
We are nothing, let us be all.
This is the final struggle
Let us group together, and tomorrow
The Internationale
Will be the human race.

There are no supreme saviours
Neither God, nor Caesar, nor tribune.
Producers, let us save ourselves,
Decree the common salvation.
So that the thief expires,
So that the spirit be pulled from its prison,
Let us fan our forge ourselves
Strike the iron while it is hot.

The State oppresses and the law cheats.
Tax bleeds the unfortunate.
No duty is imposed on the rich;
The rights of the poor is an empty phrase.
Enough languishing in custody!
Equality wants other laws:
No rights without duties, she says,
Equally, no duties without rights.

Hideous in their apotheosis
The kings of the mine and of the rail.
Have they ever done anything other
Than steal work?
Inside the safeboxes of the gang,
What work had created melted.
By ordering that they give it back,
The people want only their due.

The kings made us drunk with fumes,
Peace among us, war to the tyrants!
Let the armies go on strike,
Stocks in the air, and break ranks.
If they insist, these cannibals
On making heroes of us,
They will know soon that our bullets
Are for our own generals.

Workers, peasants, we are
The great party of labourers.
The earth belongs only to men;
The idle will go to reside elsewhere.
How much of our flesh have they consumed?
But if these ravens, these vultures
Disappeared one of these days,
The sun will shine forever.

This is the final struggle
 Let us group together, and tomorrow
 The Internationale
Will be the human race.

blog.chron.com

/She's just a little younger than you were, Pete. And look what they did to her for trying to get a little more wealth to trickle down
 
2014-01-28 11:15:47 AM  

FrancoFile: If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.


And if you can't distinguish between Jam Bands and Folk, you should probably just go back to bed.
 
2014-01-28 11:24:53 AM  

JeffKochosky: RIP Pete's Dragon


A dragon lives forever but not so little boys
Painted wings and giant rings make way for other toys
One gray night it happened, Peter Seeger came no more
And Puff that mighty dragon, he ceased his fearless roar
His head was bent in sorrow, green scales fell like rain
Puff no longer went to play along the cherry lane
Without his life-long friend, Puff could not be brave
So Puff that mighty dragon sadly slipped into his cave

Not Pete, but seems fitting
 
2014-01-28 11:40:17 AM  
First Mandela and now Seeger...the 94 club claims another social activist.
 
2014-01-28 11:50:17 AM  
RIP. I sing Summertime to my son almost every night. I used to sing it to my daughter.

Hammer on!
 
2014-01-28 11:55:30 AM  
94 years,not too bad. His music and ideals will live on. I'd say he has lived a good, meaningful life.
 
2014-01-28 12:00:57 PM  

cdmtribune.s3.amazonaws.com


RIP ALEX REIGER

 
2014-01-28 12:17:53 PM  

BitwiseShift: Pros:

Extreme courage
Incredible writer
Pursued Justice
Incredible musician
Never got fat
Lived a full life
Admirers in every generation
Prolific song writer
dropped out of Harvard before Bill Gates
and a thousand more


Cons:

Played Banjo.

Pro-Stalin coontil the 1990s)
 
2014-01-28 12:33:37 PM  
I never heard of this guy.  I heard of him on NPR this morning in the shower and remember thinking, "I never heard of this guy".  I had heard plenty of his music, it turns out.
 
2014-01-28 12:36:28 PM  

jigger: Pro-Stalin coontil the 1990s)


Nope.
 
2014-01-28 12:37:52 PM  
I was introduced to Pete on Reading Rainbow:

www.papertigers.org

RIP sir.
 
2014-01-28 12:41:40 PM  

someonelse: jigger: Pro-Stalin coontil the 1990s)

Nope.


You don't have to believe me. Go look it up.
 
2014-01-28 12:47:12 PM  

jigger: someonelse: jigger: Pro-Stalin coontil the 1990s)

Nope.

You don't have to believe me. Go look it up.


His autobiography was published in the early 1990s, in which he apologized for being completely wrong about Stalin. But he didn't just wake up one morning in 1993 and declare, "Hey, turns out that Stalin guy was a jackass!" He had been commenting on that issue well before that. Go look it up.
 
2014-01-28 12:50:15 PM  

someonelse: jigger: Pro-Stalin coontil the 1990s)

Nope.


This. Pro communist in it's very basic, never gonna happen state.
 
2014-01-28 12:55:57 PM  
Taught me way more about American history than any class in high school.

A huge loss.
 
2014-01-28 12:57:10 PM  
Goodnight Big Forearmed Man.

static.tvtropes.org
 
2014-01-28 12:58:19 PM  

jigger: someonelse: jigger: Pro-Stalin coontil the 1990s)

Nope.

You don't have to believe me. Go look it up.


It is almost like there isnt a black and white answer to the issue.
 
2014-01-28 01:03:56 PM  

purdeyisa10: Seven decades of kicking fascist ass.
Now that's entertainment.


I'm not going to win any popularity contests here but when the Soviet Union was aligned with Germany 1939-1941 Seeger was a vociferous opponent of the US getting  into the war.  He followed the party line.  Then when Fascist Germany and Communist Russia had a falling out, that's when he became anti-Fascist. He and his folk group had released a song just before the German attack on Russia in 1941 attacking Roosevelt for aiding the Democratic countries, then they had to change the lyrics 180 degrees and tried to get back as many of the 'politically incorrect" records as they could.
 
2014-01-28 01:04:19 PM  

FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

[static4.wikia.nocookie.net image 846x846]


You have no concept of sociological constructs and are probably great fun at parties.
 
2014-01-28 01:05:48 PM  

El Supe: purdeyisa10: Seven decades of kicking fascist ass.
Now that's entertainment.

I'm not going to win any popularity contests here but when the Soviet Union was aligned with Germany 1939-1941 Seeger was a vociferous opponent of the US getting  into the war.  He followed the party line.  Then when Fascist Germany and Communist Russia had a falling out, that's when he became anti-Fascist. He and his folk group had released a song just before the German attack on Russia in 1941 attacking Roosevelt for aiding the Democratic countries, then they had to change the lyrics 180 degrees and tried to get back as many of the 'politically incorrect" records as they could.


he was wrong about something when he was young 75 years ago
 
2014-01-28 01:18:11 PM  
So let's predict the set lest for his funeral:
Arlo Gutherie
Bob Dylan
Bruce Springstien
The surviving members of Peter Paul and Mary
Leonard Cohen
John Cale

who else?

(and fark the funeral, the greatest place say you were for years to come, would be either the private wake the night before or the hotel where all these folk stay the night before...)
 
2014-01-28 01:21:59 PM  
Fun fact: Seeger and Woody Guthrie were introduced to each other by Grandpa Walton

will-geer.journal-of-life.com
 
2014-01-28 01:27:27 PM  

purdeyisa10: Seven decades of kicking fascist ass.
Now that's entertainment.


Actually he was totes cool with fascists until they invaded the USSR.  Other than that, you're spot on.

But maybe those were just nazis with a small "n."  Makes all the difference.
 
2014-01-28 01:28:07 PM  

TimSTP: Fun fact: Seeger and Woody Guthrie were introduced to each other by Grandpa Walton

[will-geer.journal-of-life.com image 352x307]


Was he the one that put Seeger up to ripping off Guthrie's music?
 
2014-01-28 01:45:47 PM  

exparrot: same_old_mess: exparrot: FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

fark you you cynical fark. Music has always been an inspirational force and the fact that it can move people to action is a historical fact.
His music quite literally had an impact, an effect.It changed the course of history without a bullet, without a gun.

I would love to know what outside influences define your personal ethos, unless of course it is all entirely based on a personally written manifesto.

Pretty sure trolling was the only "personal ethos" on display there.

goddammitsomuch. I can't tell anymore. Poe's law and all that.


:-)

It was about 80% troll and 20% honest.  I'm surprised I didn't hook more.

But more words will be spilled over Seeger in the next week than have ever been written in the popular media about WEB DuBois, Frederick Douglass, and Paul Laurence Dunbar.  And that makes me sad.
 
2014-01-28 01:46:09 PM  

Magorn: So let's predict the set lest for his funeral:
Arlo Gutherie
Bob Dylan
Bruce Springstien
The surviving members of Peter Paul and Mary
Leonard Cohen
John Cale

who else?

(and fark the funeral, the greatest place say you were for years to come, would be either the private wake the night before or the hotel where all these folk stay the night before...)


Roger McGuinn?
 
2014-01-28 01:49:09 PM  
marxistleninist.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-28 02:01:14 PM  
www.ausairpower.net

R.I.P. Heat Seeker
 
2014-01-28 02:04:15 PM  
Oklahoma
 
2014-01-28 02:10:09 PM  
Pete Seeger is finally a Good Communist

He's  dead
 
2014-01-28 02:21:28 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: Pete Seeger is finally a Good Communist

He's  dead


You dont have to explain jokes to people.
 
2014-01-28 02:47:35 PM  
RIP Mr. Seeger.   Today we have lost a legend.
 
2014-01-28 02:51:09 PM  
Deathfrogg:
Any link? Youtube is not particularly forthcoming...

Thanks for that background, BTW. Much appreciated.
 
2014-01-28 02:58:04 PM  

R.A.Danny: someonelse: jigger: Pro-Stalin coontil the 1990s)

Nope.

This. Pro communist in it's very basic, never gonna happen state.


It infuriates me that conservatives pillory naive ex-Communists, and yet they absolve anyone who was an extremist on the right, like the Birchers and the Ayn Rand cultists and the KKK.
 
2014-01-28 02:59:51 PM  

gaslight: I've been trying to track down a Pete Seeger song I heard on As It Happens once. I believe it was in the late 80s at the Democratic national convention. It was a humorous song about politicians called 'They Lie'. Anyone know it?


Are you perhaps thinking of this?

The Ross Perot Guide to Answering Embarrassing Questions.
 
2014-01-28 03:03:23 PM  

Gunny Highway: Clemkadidlefark: Pete Seeger is finally a Good Communist

He's  dead

You dont have to explain jokes to people.


No, but he has to explain it to himself
 
2014-01-28 03:10:41 PM  
Last night I had the strangest dream...

I dreamed I was playing the banjo.  I haven't touched a banjo for probably ten-twelve years.  I was a "self-taught" banjo player, right out of Pete's red book.

Pete Seeger was not perfect...he was wrong about some things...he was maybe more wrapped up in his causes than he was in his family...but Pete Seeger did more good for humanity before breakfast yesterday than most of us will in an entire lifetime.

He was a great man.
 
2014-01-28 03:12:41 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Magorn: So let's predict the set lest for his funeral:
Arlo Gutherie
Bob Dylan
Bruce Springstien
The surviving members of Peter Paul and Mary
Leonard Cohen
John Cale

who else?

(and fark the funeral, the greatest place say you were for years to come, would be either the private wake the night before or the hotel where all these folk stay the night before...)

Roger McGuinn?


Ronnie Gilbert, I hope.
 
2014-01-28 03:18:59 PM  

grizzlyjohnson: Bith Set Me Up: Magorn: So let's predict the set lest for his funeral:
Arlo Gutherie
Bob Dylan
Bruce Springstien
The surviving members of Peter Paul and Mary
Leonard Cohen
John Cale

who else?

(and fark the funeral, the greatest place say you were for years to come, would be either the private wake the night before or the hotel where all these folk stay the night before...)

Roger McGuinn?

Ronnie Gilbert, I hope.


Maybe Billy Bragg?

"Here comes the future and you can't run from it
If you've got a blacklist I want to be on it

It's a mighty long way down rock 'n roll
From Top of the Pops to drawing the dole

If no one seems to understand
Start your own revolution, cut out the middleman
In a perfect world we'd all sing in tune
But this is reality so give me some room
So join the struggle while you may
The Revolution is just a t-shirt away "
 
2014-01-28 03:23:31 PM  

Magorn: So let's predict the set lest for his funeral:
Arlo Gutherie
Bob Dylan
Bruce Springstien
The surviving members of Peter Paul and Mary
Leonard Cohen
John Cale

who else?

(and fark the funeral, the greatest place say you were for years to come, would be either the private wake the night before or the hotel where all these folk stay the night before...)


By John Cale, do you mean JJ Cale? He will be there only in spirit.  JJ Cale, 12/5/38 - 7/26/13. And I bet the Grammys left HIM out of their "In Memorium", too.  :(

Rest peacefully, you old peacenik. I remember hearing "Where Have All the Flowers Gone?" as a small child, and feeling sad. I didn't even really understand it yet, but I knew.
 
2014-01-28 03:32:18 PM  

FrancoFile: Oh great, here comes another week of masturbatory Baby Boomer wailing and tearing of the garments.

If you need an entertainer to inspire you to do what you already think is the moral and right course of action, then your revolution is doomed to failure.

[static4.wikia.nocookie.net image 846x846]


Playwrights are entertainers, so, you're basically just flat-out wrong there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A1clav_Havel
 
2014-01-28 03:38:18 PM  

Magorn: So let's predict the set lest for his funeral:
Arlo Gutherie
Bob Dylan
Bruce Springstien
The surviving members of Peter Paul and Mary
Leonard Cohen
John Cale

who else?



demonsresume.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-28 03:45:35 PM  

dryknife: Magorn: who else?


[demonsresume.files.wordpress.com image 460x276]


Possibly. Martin is farking hard core about his banjo.
 
2014-01-28 03:52:17 PM  

dryknife: Magorn: So let's predict the set lest for his funeral:
Arlo Gutherie
Bob Dylan
Bruce Springstien
The surviving members of Peter Paul and Mary
Leonard Cohen
John Cale

who else?


[demonsresume.files.wordpress.com image 460x276]


No.
 
2014-01-28 04:04:25 PM  

someonelse: WanPhat: Pete Seeger was still alive?  Wow, I would have guessed he was gone along time ago.  He's cool, no disrespect, but he seemed old 40 years ago.  I learned about Pete Seeger as a historical figure when I was in grade school and I'm old.

[img.fark.net image 320x247]

No biggie, the 2009 inauguration wasn't that big of a media spectacle.


Can't fathom he was 89 years old and performing in Washington in January.
 
2014-01-28 04:14:01 PM  

TimSTP: Fun fact: Seeger and Woody Guthrie were introduced to each other by Grandpa Walton

[will-geer.journal-of-life.com image 352x307]


Ahh yes, the days when country music was worth listening to.........because it wasn't country music. it was American music


Pete and Johnny
 
2014-01-28 04:16:31 PM  

markfara: I detest most folk music, but Seeger was a good guy. We're a poorer nation now that he's gone.


then turn off your radio, stop listening to whatever .....it's all folk music unless you listen to nothing but symphonies, NTTAWWT
 
2014-01-28 04:19:08 PM  

Carn: Why is it sad when someone who's 94 dies?  That's awesome.  90 f*ckin 4!  Great job dude!


Because human beings think it's sad when someone dies, nno matter how old they are. It's a normal, healthy emotional response.
 
2014-01-28 04:20:02 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

RIP PETE & PETE
 
2014-01-28 04:21:49 PM  

phrawgh: [userserve-ak.last.fm image 358x388]RIP BoB Seger
/used to smoke five packs of cigarettes a day


I caught Al Jazeera farking up early this morning.  The voice over said Pete Seeger ad they were showing images of him, but for a moment the screen said "Bob Seeger" (with all 3 'e's).

They fixed it fairly quickly.
 
2014-01-28 04:24:19 PM  
s3.amazonaws.com

RIP SEAGRAM'S
 
2014-01-28 04:36:30 PM  

derpy: El Supe: purdeyisa10: Seven decades of kicking fascist ass.
Now that's entertainment.

I'm not going to win any popularity contests here but when the Soviet Union was aligned with Germany 1939-1941 Seeger was a vociferous opponent of the US getting  into the war.  He followed the party line.  Then when Fascist Germany and Communist Russia had a falling out, that's when he became anti-Fascist. He and his folk group had released a song just before the German attack on Russia in 1941 attacking Roosevelt for aiding the Democratic countries, then they had to change the lyrics 180 degrees and tried to get back as many of the 'politically incorrect" records as they could.

he was wrong about something when he was young 75 years ago



Yep.  The man had a good heart and was pretty talented as well.

Those on the right (I'm among them in FARK - terms) should remind themselves that if the only art they'll allow themselves to enjoy, is that produced by people whose politics line up with their own, the pickings are going to be pretty slim.

My only complaint of Seeger would be the long necked banjo.
 
2014-01-28 04:49:49 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: Pete Seeger is finally a Good Communist

He dead

FTFY

 
2014-01-28 04:54:15 PM  
He was one of the very, very few who stood up to HUAC and told them to shove it in person under threat of prison. For that he deserves all the blessings and honor in the world
 
2014-01-28 04:56:13 PM  

static.tvtropes.org


RIP

 
2014-01-28 04:56:53 PM  
Respect to Mr. Seeger, but if I had a hammer, there'd be no more folksingers.

//I'd whack 'em in the noggin, all over this land
 
2014-01-28 04:57:34 PM  
 
2014-01-28 04:59:54 PM  
But more words will be spilled over Seeger in the next week than have ever been written in the popular media about WEB DuBois, Frederick Douglass, and Paul Laurence Dunbar.  And that makes me sad.

And weirdly, I spent a good part of yesterday up to my neck in WEB DuBois research. Helluva coincidence.
 
2014-01-28 05:01:05 PM  

Huggermugger: R.A.Danny: someonelse: jigger: Pro-Stalin coontil the 1990s)

Nope.

This. Pro communist in it's very basic, never gonna happen state.

It infuriates me that conservatives pillory naive ex-Communists, and yet they absolve anyone who was an extremist on the right, like the Birchers and the Ayn Rand cultists and the KKK.


Why should it surprise you? Conservatism has been the Birchers, the Randroids and the Klan for close to thirty years
 
2014-01-28 05:14:05 PM  
As political as he was, this should be in the political tab, but then someone would just trash him.

He truly is a legend.
 
2014-01-28 05:15:17 PM  

www.retroplayers.com.br



RIP SIEGER

/victoly
 
2014-01-28 05:32:00 PM  

caddisfly: someonelse: WanPhat: Pete Seeger was still alive?  Wow, I would have guessed he was gone along time ago.  He's cool, no disrespect, but he seemed old 40 years ago.  I learned about Pete Seeger as a historical figure when I was in grade school and I'm old.

[img.fark.net image 320x247]

No biggie, the 2009 inauguration wasn't that big of a media spectacle.

Can't fathom he was 89 years old and performing in Washington in January.


I think he was still hiking and chopping his own firewood well into his 80s. He clearly was doing it right.
 
2014-01-28 05:34:10 PM  

gfid: phrawgh: [userserve-ak.last.fm image 358x388]RIP BoB Seger
/used to smoke five packs of cigarettes a day

I caught Al Jazeera farking up early this morning.  The voice over said Pete Seeger ad they were showing images of him, but for a moment the screen said "Bob Seeger" (with all 3 'e's).

They fixed it fairly quickly.


I remember when Bill Clinton was elected oe of the pundits slipped and called him George Clinton. Of course being a pre-internet world it's lost to time
 
2014-01-28 05:40:16 PM  
img.fark.net

RIP Doug Fieger

/seriously
 
2014-01-28 06:37:32 PM  

ObeliskToucher: [i260.photobucket.com image 339x400]

Welcome, tovarisch!


You (and many others in this thread) are confusing him with his father, Charles Seeger, who went to his grave in his 90s an unrepentant Stalinist.  Charles was also the one who tried to stop Dylan's performance at Newport in 1964 with an ax.

Pete was one of the first American Communists to believe the stories coming out of the USSR during WWII, stories which the popular press didn't even accept or print (because the Soviets were our allies) until well after the war.

It was a very fluid time politically, and people seem to forget that political leaders from Huey Long to Stalin to Castro didn't start out the dictators they became.
 
2014-01-28 07:33:29 PM  

Europos: Thanks for making me cry, I guess.

/never fail to get weepy with that song
//RIP


This the song that has had me crying today:

http://myspace.com/peteseeger/music/song/well-may-the-world-go-45385 05 2-48502595
 
2014-01-28 08:17:44 PM  

cptjeff: gaslight: I've been trying to track down a Pete Seeger song I heard on As It Happens once. I believe it was in the late 80s at the Democratic national convention. It was a humorous song about politicians called 'They Lie'. Anyone know it?

Are you perhaps thinking of this?

The Ross Perot Guide to Answering Embarrassing Questions.



That's it. You should submit this link.
 
2014-01-28 08:23:01 PM  
. "I apologize for once believing Stalin was just a hard driver, not a supremely cruel dictator. I ask people to broaden their definition of socialism. Our ancestors were all socialists: You killed a deer and maybe you got the best cut, but you wouldn't let it rot, you shared it. Similarly, I tell socialists, every society has a post office and none of them is efficient. No post office anywhere invented Federal Express."
 
2014-01-28 08:48:11 PM  

Magorn: No post office anywhere invented Federal Express."


Not strictly true, having dealt with the Swiss and Japanese Post Offices.

/
 
2014-01-28 08:52:01 PM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE4H0k8TDgw


He may be a damn commie but that will make you say,"America, fark Yeah!"
 
2014-01-28 11:42:49 PM  
Charles was also the one who tried to stop Dylan's performance at Newport in 1964 with an ax.

i think you're wrong about that. doesn't Joe Boyd's book mention Pete doing that?
 
2014-01-29 02:42:07 AM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: Charles was also the one who tried to stop Dylan's performance at Newport in 1964 with an ax.

i think you're wrong about that. doesn't Joe Boyd's book mention Pete doing that?


I've heard about six different versions. The most recent one is in No Direction Home, where someone says Pete was trying to get the music turned down because it was too loud, which made it badly distorted and that it was bothering Charles because of that.

I don't know if I believe any of them, but I have a hard time imagining Pete or any performer who's worked with a PA system, going after an electric cable with an ax; that's just suicidal.

What I do know for certain, as multiple sources in the audience have confirmed it, is that Dylan got booed not for playing electric, but because his set was only three songs.  He quickly realized the problem, borrowed an acoustic and ran out to play a full set.
 
2014-01-29 07:26:23 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: ObeliskToucher: [i260.photobucket.com image 339x400]

Welcome, tovarisch!

You (and many others in this thread) are confusing him with his father, Charles Seeger, who went to his grave in his 90s an unrepentant Stalinist.  Charles was also the one who tried to stop Dylan's performance at Newport in 1964 with an ax.

Pete was one of the first American Communists to believe the stories coming out of the USSR during WWII, stories which the popular press didn't even accept or print (because the Soviets were our allies) until well after the war.

It was a very fluid time politically, and people seem to forget that political leaders from Huey Long to Stalin to Castro didn't start out the dictators they became.


No confusion here... Seeger only "repented" his fervent support of Stalin 70-some years too late, and long long LONG after it might have made any difference.

And don't be silly - Stalin started out EXACTLY as the "dictator he became". The only thing that changed was moving from wholesale (mass, forced starvation in the 30s) to retail (gulags & Beria in the 40s and 50s).

Nice tunes, but not worth whitewashing the rest of his life...
 
2014-01-29 10:03:06 AM  
Goodnight you old communist.
 
2014-01-29 01:23:28 PM  
Godspeed and R.I.P. Music Man ...... But you were no Joe South
 
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