Generation_D: The deep roots of the disputes of this are really kind of ridiculous. Million dollar property owners painting themselves as poor oppressed sports fans, as well as a team painting itself as needing signage when it is sitting on top of MLB megabuck TV deal money ... both sides can go suck sh*t as far as I'm concerned.The Cubs keep sucking is the only fact in this that remains true to an outsider.
"I say we take off and nuke the 'Friendly Confines' from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
cnocnanrionnag: $150 per person for beer, food and a view of the game. That's the cheapest I could find....Direct quote from the Wrigleyrooftops website:"RooftopRooftop Ticket includes access to the Rooftop and Stadium Club Levels, food and drinks (including alcohol) and a one hour pre game party. Alcohol is cut off at the end of the 7th inning.$150.00"I'm pretty sure a fan could get excellent seats (home-first or third, first 30 rows) and have a brat and a couple of beers for much less....
FriarReb98: grimlock1972: Meh i knew this was going to end up in court, Seriously if you do not like them their buy them out, yes it will not be cheap but its the easiest way to deal with it, perhaps not the most expensive after all lawyers are expensive.Somewhere in that grammatical nightmare I'm sure there's a this. Whether they like it or not, the character of Wrigley revolves around the houses on Sheffield (and for whatever reason, a lesser extent on Waveland). Owning them not only controls the revenue from them, it also controls the environment.But then again, this is Cubs management we're talking about. They don't have the first idea what I'm talking about.
Sin_City_Superhero: Even if you ignore the "historical landmark" aspect, the Cubs really can't replace Wrigley. The Cubs suck. The Cubs have sucked for a very long time. People don't go to Cubs games to watch the Cubs. People go to Cubs games because Wrigley Field is a destination. If the Cubs played in a brand new stadium, they might get big crowds for a few years, but once the new-car-smell wore off, they would either have to put a more competitive product on the field, or they'd lose all of their fans. As it is right now, the Cubs don't even have to try to win, and they sell out.
Gosling: Either way, without Wrigley, the Cubs are like Gregory Helms post-Hurricane. With Wrigley, they're at least somewhat entertaining. They have at least some semblance of a positive identity. With another stadium which no matter how nice it is will never replace Wrigley in many fans' minds, they're just... some guys. Who suck.
Wellon Dowd: Subby is weak in geometry or reading comprehension, or both.
SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Wellon Dowd: Subby is weak in geometry or reading comprehension, or both.Probably written by a south sider. They're an infamously dumb breed.
Delawheredad: Once upon a time The Philadelphia A's had the same problem. Houses just outside of Shibe Park erected stands on the roof, pissing off Connie Mack. Mack's response was to erect a 60 foot tall "spite fence." The fence in turn ticked off the locals and property values around the stadium began to crater. By the 1930's the neighborhood was falling apart. By the 40's it was a slum which killed attendance in general. Ultimately the A's left town and The Philles had to threaten to leave town to get a new ball park. I HATE the Cubs so I WOULD LOVE to see this scenario repeat itself. The Montreal Cubs has a nice ring to it.
interstellar_tedium: Years ago my wife was friends with (or friends of a friend of) someone in one of those buildings, and a rooftop game was just that - standing on a rooftop of someones apartment building drinking a beer and generally ignoring the horrible baseball being played before your eyes.Quite frankly I have zero sympathy for anyone in this story, the Cubs will continue to suck and the rooftop owners will continue to be whiners who leach off someone else.That said I lived in Chicago for almost 20 years and paid for a Cubs game exactly once (to take my nephews to see the other team), and that was still one time too many. Saw them more than that, but the tickets were always ones that a friend had and didn't want to use and couldn't resell (ah, the days before Stub Hub).
Scottybobotty: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Wellon Dowd: Subby is weak in geometry or reading comprehension, or both.Probably written by a south sider. They're an infamously dumb breed.And Northsiders don't have idiot fans either?
macdaddy357: Wrigley Field is a dinosaur that needs to be replaced as badly as Tiger Stadium did. It is going to fall down with people in it if the Windy City doesn't get over their silly nostalgia. I'll bet Boston is glossing over safety concerns for Fenway Park, too.
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