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(Chicago Sun-Times)   Chicago Cubs apply for permit to erect a 650-foot sign in right field that will spare people on the rooftops from running the risk of seeing a Cubs game   (suntimes.com) divider line 67
    More: Fail, Cubs, Tom Ricketts, legal standing, right fielders, Wrigley Field  
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2014-01-28 02:08:55 PM
Also, the reason those rooftop seats are so popular is the view...they are far enough from, the field that you can't really tell what's going on...and at a Cubs game, that is what you want.
 
2014-01-28 02:17:35 PM
Not sure what the difference between the rooftops and TV is.  Sure technically I buy stuff at Home Depot, and they pay the network, and the network pays the club ...  But I can just as easily stop at Lowes on my way home.
 
2014-01-28 02:23:46 PM

Generation_D: The deep roots of the disputes of this are really kind of ridiculous. Million dollar property owners painting themselves as poor oppressed sports fans, as well as a team painting itself as needing signage when it is sitting on top of MLB megabuck TV deal money ... both sides can go suck sh*t as far as I'm concerned.

The Cubs keep sucking is the only fact in this that remains true to an outsider.


So much THIS!


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"I say we take off and nuke the 'Friendly Confines' from orbit.  It's the only way to be sure."

 
2014-01-28 02:54:18 PM

cnocnanrionnag: $150 per person for beer, food and a view of the game.  That's the cheapest I could find....

Direct quote from the Wrigleyrooftops website:

"Rooftop
Rooftop Ticket includes access to the Rooftop and Stadium Club Levels, food and drinks (including alcohol) and a one hour pre game party. Alcohol is cut off at the end of the 7th inning.$150.00"

I'm pretty sure a fan could get excellent seats (home-first or third, first 30 rows) and have a brat and a couple of beers for much less....


That $150 is way higher than I've ever paid, although I'm a White Sox fan and only go when one of my friends offers me a free or cheap one. That said, you can almost always get these for $60-90 through Groupon type deals.

I'd say some people easily spend $150 at a game (after accounting for the ticket which gets cheaper as the year goes on and the Cubs inevitably disappoint), and that's on shiatty beer and sub-par food. As far as I remember the rooftops I've been on had a much better drink and food selection. I know not everyone drinks 10+ beers at a ballgame, but the rooftops in my opinion have always been geared towards the revelers.
 
2014-01-28 02:58:53 PM

FriarReb98: grimlock1972: Meh i knew this was going to end up in court,   Seriously if you do not like them their buy them out,   yes it will not be cheap but its the easiest way to deal with it, perhaps not the most expensive after all lawyers are expensive.

Somewhere in that grammatical nightmare I'm sure there's a this.  Whether they like it or not, the character of Wrigley revolves around the houses on Sheffield (and for whatever reason, a lesser extent on Waveland).  Owning them not only controls the revenue from them, it also controls the environment.

But then again, this is Cubs management we're talking about.  They don't have the first idea what I'm talking about.


I agree with you and I apologize for my poor grammar.   When i type fast it goes all to hell.
 
2014-01-28 04:03:27 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: Even if you ignore the "historical landmark" aspect, the Cubs really can't replace Wrigley. The Cubs suck. The Cubs have sucked for a very long time. People don't go to Cubs games to watch the Cubs. People go to Cubs games because Wrigley Field is a destination. If the Cubs played in a brand new stadium, they might get big crowds for a few years, but once the new-car-smell wore off, they would either have to put a more competitive product on the field, or they'd lose all of their fans. As it is right now, the Cubs don't even have to try to win, and they sell out.


you have a few good points - but attendance is noticeably down.  I think it's the lowest it's been in 10+ years.

There are 2 types of fans that go to Wrigley - Cubs fans and Wrigley Fans.  Wrigley Fans are the ones that go to the games and get smashed and don't realize that there is a baseball game going on.  They go to the ballpark and treat it as a giant open air bar with, to them, a long slow game taking place in front of them.  Cubs Fans usually know who's pitching that day even if he's making his major league debut.  Cubs fans are the people with cubs scarfs, gloves, and hats (cause you need them in those early April games) that are scoring the ballgame because they love their team.  Cubs fans know that you would pitch down and away to Alfonso Soriano if you wanted him to strike out.  Wrigley Fans boo him when he strikes out with 2 men on and 2 out down a run.  Cubs fans would prefer a foul ball off of Darwin Barney's bat.  Wrigley Fans would prefer the hot girls phone number from a section over.

The difference between them is clear as day (or night 35 times a year this year) and it's the Wrigley Fans that give the Cubs Fans a bad name.  So when you see a drunk 22 year old get hit in the head with a foul ball because he was trying to get a girls phone number and you see a 40 year old who gets the ball and is the happiest guy in the world because it's his first foul ball he's ever gotten at Wrigley...you'll know which is which.
 
2014-01-28 04:10:17 PM
Either way, without Wrigley, the Cubs are like Gregory Helms post-Hurricane. With Wrigley, they're at least somewhat entertaining. They have at least some semblance of a positive identity. With another stadium which no matter how nice it is will never replace Wrigley in many fans' minds, they're just... some guys. Who suck.
 
2014-01-28 04:35:50 PM

Gosling: Either way, without Wrigley, the Cubs are like Gregory Helms post-Hurricane. With Wrigley, they're at least somewhat entertaining. They have at least some semblance of a positive identity. With another stadium which no matter how nice it is will never replace Wrigley in many fans' minds, they're just... some guys. Who suck.


And that's why no one believes they'll move and any threats to move to the suburbs will just be laughed at by the rooftop owners.  The Ricketts family has already bought enough real estate around Wrigley that they'd be eating a big loss on if they moved the team, plus the Cubs would be giving away their big differentiating factor over the White Sox.  Moving to the burbs wouldn't be cutting off their nose to spite their face, it'd be cutting the whole damn head off.  They MIGHT be able to get away with it if the team weren't so terrible, but yeah, it's terrible right now.
 
2014-01-28 04:48:17 PM
I cant wait until the rooftop buildings get painted bright pink in retaliation.
 
2014-01-28 06:02:58 PM

Wellon Dowd: Subby is weak in geometry or reading comprehension, or both.


Probably written by a south sider. They're an infamously dumb breed.
 
2014-01-28 06:10:40 PM
Once upon a  time The Philadelphia A's had the same problem. Houses just outside of Shibe Park erected stands on the roof, pissing off Connie Mack. Mack's response was to erect a 60 foot tall "spite fence." The fence in turn ticked off the locals and property values around the stadium began to crater. By the 1930's the neighborhood was falling apart. By the 40's it was a slum which killed attendance in general. Ultimately the A's left town and  The Philles had to threaten to leave town to get a new ball park.

  I HATE the Cubs so I WOULD LOVE to see this scenario repeat itself. The Montreal  Cubs has a nice ring to it.
 
2014-01-28 07:59:31 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Wellon Dowd: Subby is weak in geometry or reading comprehension, or both.

Probably written by a south sider. They're an infamously dumb breed.


hmmm. I wonder what you mean by that? Seriously, clarify so that we all know what you're saying. since you're such a bad ass, it shouldn't be a problem.
 
2014-01-28 08:36:32 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Wellon Dowd: Subby is weak in geometry or reading comprehension, or both.

Probably written by a south sider. They're an infamously dumb breed.


And Northsiders don't have idiot fans either?
 
2014-01-28 08:40:26 PM

Delawheredad: Once upon a  time The Philadelphia A's had the same problem. Houses just outside of Shibe Park erected stands on the roof, pissing off Connie Mack. Mack's response was to erect a 60 foot tall "spite fence." The fence in turn ticked off the locals and property values around the stadium began to crater. By the 1930's the neighborhood was falling apart. By the 40's it was a slum which killed attendance in general. Ultimately the A's left town and  The Philles had to threaten to leave town to get a new ball park.

  I HATE the Cubs so I WOULD LOVE to see this scenario repeat itself. The Montreal  Cubs has a nice ring to it.


The area around Wrigley was a slum in the 70's.
 
2014-01-29 12:45:08 AM

interstellar_tedium: Years ago my wife was friends with (or friends of a friend of) someone in one of those buildings, and a rooftop game was just that - standing on a rooftop of someones apartment building drinking a beer and generally ignoring the horrible baseball being played before your eyes.

Quite frankly I have zero sympathy for anyone in this story, the Cubs will continue to suck and the rooftop owners will continue to be whiners who leach off someone else.

That said I lived in Chicago for almost 20 years and paid for a Cubs game exactly once (to take my nephews to see the other team), and that was still one time too many.  Saw them more than that, but the tickets were always ones that a friend had and didn't want to use and couldn't resell (ah, the days before Stub Hub).



So much this. If a building can advertise itself as a corporate boardroom with "the best seats in the house," and it isn't even the team making the money, fark them and the horse they rode in on.

I too recall those 70s rooftops, though I was never lucky enough to make it up there, it was just a buncha guys and their friends standing around drinking in the sun and ignoring the game unless a home run got hit.

The team and the property owners all can just go fark themselves now as far as I'm concerned. The team is incompetently run, and these leeching neighbors are yuppie scum as we used to say.
 
2014-01-29 10:51:35 AM

Scottybobotty: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Wellon Dowd: Subby is weak in geometry or reading comprehension, or both.

Probably written by a south sider. They're an infamously dumb breed.

And Northsiders don't have idiot fans either?


He seems to be one of the idiot fans. Probably afraid to venture south of Division or West of Ashland.
 
2014-01-29 01:17:01 PM

macdaddy357: Wrigley Field is a dinosaur that needs to be replaced as badly as Tiger Stadium did. It is going to fall down with people in it if the Windy City doesn't get over their silly nostalgia. I'll bet Boston is glossing over safety concerns for Fenway Park, too.


Unfortunately, Comerica Park is a terrible place to watch a baseball game. It's great if your kids want to ride a Ferris wheel or ride a carousel or visit the food court. But not so good when it comes to watching the game.
 
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