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2014-01-28 06:40:03 AM
Georg W. Bush blames Saddam.
 
2014-01-28 06:40:41 AM
i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com
My God. Shields. SHIELDS!
 
2014-01-28 06:42:31 AM
came for the shaggy magnets meme.

/leaving sad.
 
2014-01-28 06:50:28 AM
There is a theory that pole reversal may have some effect on evolution, triggering genetic changes.

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4608441?uid=3739936&uid=2129&u id =2&uid=70&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21103309954731

if you are willing to pay the $6 for the article or

http://www.evolutionaryleaps.com/2012/01/magnetic-reversal-could-tri gg er-evolution-says-expert/

for an excerpt.

Of course, most biologists don't subscribe to this theory..
 
2014-01-28 07:00:09 AM

tbeatty: Etchy333: The sun went down below the horizon a few hours ago.  I don't want to alarm anyone, but it may never come back.

Meh.  The sun's magnetic poles flip every eleven years or so.  You never hear about the people on the sun complaining about global warming.


Do you know how much an apartment on the Sun costs?
 
2014-01-28 07:03:25 AM

Twinkles: It's all a conspiracy by the map-printing industry to get us all to buy new maps with Australia in the northern hemisphere!


www.affordablehousinginstitute.org
 
2014-01-28 07:05:35 AM
All the geological evidence we have indicates that while the field becomes more chaotic, the magnetopause still extends out to 3 Earth radii and will continue to protect us. This has happened many,  many times before. There is no evidence that links reversals to any sort of cataclysm on Earth. If there  were a sudden influx of radiation, we'd expect to see mass extinctions- and we don't.

The process also takes 1,000-10,000 years, so... what I'm trying to say here is that this is a non-event.
 
2014-01-28 07:07:43 AM
Just wait until the sun takes it's final form!
~images.wikia.com
 
2014-01-28 07:09:50 AM
Suwe we have to do this 30 times a year!!! Gwobal warming is the cawse of eberyting!!!  I wed on a wiberal site its making the moon bigger!! It affects eberyting, now gwavity!!! I'm gonna whyte a check to Al Bore so he can fix it!!!
 
2014-01-28 07:19:50 AM
It's the tea baggers.
 
2014-01-28 07:19:55 AM
I'll be dead by then. Who cares
 
2014-01-28 07:22:31 AM
I'm scared. If the earth flips upside down, the country will be upside down? I'm a Northerner. I don't want to be a Southerner. Their beer is terrible, they're soft and they talk funny.
 
2014-01-28 07:23:52 AM

hardinparamedic: Given that this is being reported by the Daily Mail, a scientific journal of HIGH REPUTE, I don't see any reason to doubt this. Let the panic begin!

img.fark.net


There also well known for their dislike of the Star Wars prequels.

i.imgur.com

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: I guess it's a slow news day over at Mail Online, since the future pole flip has been known about for quite a few decades now, there wasn't much reason to panic twenty years ago, and there really isn't much to panic about now, either.

There again, judging by the nekkid buttock pics on the sidebar of the TFA,


That's the sidebar of shame, and a major draw for the Fail.

You want another neat trick with the Fail online? Search it for "all grown up".

That's their keyword for teens/young women with big tits in bathing costumes, essentially.

And they try and masquerade as a respectable news organ. Farking hate those twats; trashiest tabloid journalism around.

it's pretty much ALWAYS a slow news day over there.

Well, the sad thing is it's not really about "over there". They have a NY office, and the likes of Fark regularly linking to the FailOnline has, apparently, resulted in them being the #1 online "news" source.

/I make up for it by not clicking on Fark FailOnline links; if I want to see what the stories about, I'll look it up on the Beeb or similar.
 
2014-01-28 07:25:20 AM
I should add, as well, thanks to the b3tard who made the Sith Flick DM headline I linked above.

/They used to lift shoops from b3ta and run them uncredited, so I'd be a bit of a dick if I did the same.
 
2014-01-28 07:29:00 AM
www.fbtb.net
 
2014-01-28 07:46:37 AM

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: I guess it's a slow news day over at Mail Online, since the future pole flip has been known about for quite a few decades now, there wasn't much reason to panic twenty years ago, and there really isn't much to panic about now, either.

There again, judging by the nekkid buttock pics on the sidebar of the TFA, it's pretty much ALWAYS a slow news day over there.


It's important to remember that the editor of the paper during the early years of WWII was a strong supporter of the Nazis, Hitler, Mussolini, Mosley and the brownshirts.

Their editorial policy has drifted to the right since then, while their fact-checking has drifted into non-existence.
 
2014-01-28 07:49:20 AM
Super Powers in 3... 2... 1...
 
2014-01-28 07:51:05 AM

RobSeace: Twinkles: It's all a conspiracy by the map-printing industry to get us all to buy new maps with Australia in the northern hemisphere!

[www.affordablehousinginstitute.org image 600x425]


imagizer.imageshack.us
 
2014-01-28 08:03:54 AM
He can fix it:

farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2014-01-28 08:08:20 AM

Hollie Maea: I've been assured that this already happened 9 years ago.

[thishollowearth.files.wordpress.com image 318x414]


Ummmmm...welcome to 2009 is what you're saying?
 
2014-01-28 08:09:44 AM

Target Builder: As the magnetic shield weakens, the spectacle of an aurora would be visible every night all over the Earth

On the upside, that would be pretty awesome.



Aurora Borealis, shinin' down on Dallas! Can you picture that?
 
2014-01-28 08:11:50 AM
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-01-28 08:16:00 AM

t3knomanser: All the geological evidence we have indicates that while the field becomes more chaotic, the magnetopause still extends out to 3 Earth radii and will continue to protect us. This has happened many,  many times before. There is no evidence that links reversals to any sort of cataclysm on Earth. If there  were a sudden influx of radiation, we'd expect to see mass extinctions- and we don't.

The process also takes 1,000-10,000 years, so... what I'm trying to say here is that this is a non-event.


It is quite of funny when you come across things like  this and laugh at how silly people in the past were. Then you realize with articles like this one that the public/news media today is no better than it was then.
 
2014-01-28 08:19:32 AM

Mean Daddy: Suwe we have to do this 30 times a year!!! Gwobal warming is the cawse of eberyting!!!  I wed on a wiberal site its making the moon bigger!! It affects eberyting, now gwavity!!! I'm gonna whyte a check to Al Bore so he can fix it!!!


suwe
 
2014-01-28 08:25:10 AM
Ha ha I love all the global warming alarmists trying to talk this down because it's not man made.

Clearly the effect of a few decades with virtually no magnetic field to protect our technology is a much bigger deal than a few flooded coastal areas. But there's no "your sins caused this" angle, so they're not interested - in fact they want it to go away because they want all the media "science bandwidth" to be spent promoting their pseudo-scientificreligion.
 
2014-01-28 08:27:06 AM
A magnetic pole flip WILL happen...sometime in the next 1 to 10,000years.

What I've always found interesting is that during this process, a number of magnetic poles will exist simultaneously along the equator. Should make for a fun afternoon!
 
2014-01-28 08:27:24 AM
Is anybody else on mobile suddenly seeing the images people post all stretched?
 
2014-01-28 08:28:15 AM

namatad: do we really have to do this 30 times a year?


...closer to 365 times a year...once for each day Fark GLs a "science" story from the Daily Fail.
 
2014-01-28 08:28:47 AM
It's a conspiracy created by the compass industry that was losing business. Now everyone will have to buy new compassess since the old ones will point the wrong way.
 
2014-01-28 08:34:31 AM
I could care less . The Viking apocalypse will be here in a few weeks so it won't matter anyway .
 
2014-01-28 08:37:12 AM

IlGreven: namatad: do we really have to do this 30 times a year?

...closer to 365 times a year...once for each day Fark GLs a "science" story from the Daily Fail.


Wow - shooting both messengers: Fark and the Daily Mail. You must really want the debate to move back to climate change. I bet you're sick and tired of 30 stories about the meteorite threat too.
 
2014-01-28 08:38:46 AM
FTA: the spectacle of an aurora would be visible every night all over the Earth

Sounds good to me. Let's do it.
 
2014-01-28 08:39:50 AM
The government is doing it with the help of the Jewy Jews.

oh, and 9/11 was an inside job....
 
2014-01-28 08:41:21 AM
Stay indoors as much as possible and you'll be okayish.
 
2014-01-28 08:42:09 AM

Slypork: It's a conspiracy created by the compass industry that was losing business. Now everyone will have to buy new compassess since the old ones will point the wrong way.


It's the map companies like the Rand McNally maps (i.e. Rand=Rand Corporation=Paul Rand which sounds like Ron Paul only flipped).  Get a map that shows True North from Magnetic North and it changes EVERY SINGLE YEAR.  It's a device used by evil corporations to enhance income inequality experienced by poor people living on islands affected by sea level rise and extreme weather trying to escape through illegal immigration.  By making the maps change every year,  Tea Bagger corporations are profiting from people traveling to El Norte  by constantly changing where El Norte is.  It's a classic example of how rich people become rich from poor people.  It's a known fact that if enough poor people are placed next somebody not poor, he will become rich.  It's magnetism.
 
2014-01-28 08:43:34 AM

Notabunny: So my kids' drawings are going to fall off the fridge? 'Cause I got tape. I'm ready.


lol
 
2014-01-28 08:43:37 AM
Yep. Because when I want science news I turn to the Daily Mail.

/ did not read TFA
 
2014-01-28 08:44:15 AM

THE GREAT NAME: Clearly the effect of a few decades with virtually no magnetic field to protect our technology is a much bigger deal


First, this process is not a "few decades" long. It's thousands of years. Second, There is no evidence that the Earth will be without a magnetic field for this period of time- to the contrary, our best evidence indicates that the Earth's magnetosphere remains roughly the same.

This isn't a matter of talking anything "down". There's no evidence that indicates any sort of alarm is necessary or helpful here. Further, unlike climate change,  there is literally nothing we can do. The biggest vulnerability to solar radiation is the power grid, and it is  impossible to harden it sufficiently to operate without the Earth's magnetosphere for protection. Further, since there's no evidence that it will be called upon to do so, it's foolish to seriously consider it  anyway.

What we do know is that the weakened field allows solar radiation to reach the upper atmosphere. We know this because of radioisotopes gathered from 40,000 year old ice cores (the same ice cores that allow us to measure the relative quantity of CO2 in the atmosphere). We know that there's no correlation between mass extinction cycles and geomagnetic reversals, implying that there's no organic danger due to radiation. We know that geomagnetic activity is chaotic and seemingly random (it is emphatically  not periodic, and it's wrong to say we're "overdue" for a reversal). We know that the process is  usually slow, but it can sometimes happen very quickly- the 40,000 year old Laschamp event happened over the course of less that 500 years. The Cretaceous Superchron lasted 10 million years.
 
2014-01-28 08:49:02 AM

heliotrope: I'm scared. If the earth flips upside down, the country will be upside down? I'm a Northerner. I don't want to be a Southerner. Their beer is terrible, they're soft and they talk funny.


Right now the flux lines move in the direction that actually make the South Pole the North Pole. So, you really are a Southerner right now. Other words, you really want the flip.
 
2014-01-28 08:50:45 AM

t3knomanser: THE GREAT NAME: Clearly the effect of a few decades with virtually no magnetic field to protect our technology is a much bigger deal

First, this process is not a "few decades" long. It's thousands of years. Second, There is no evidence that the Earth will be without a magnetic field for this period of time- to the contrary, our best evidence indicates that the Earth's magnetosphere remains roughly the same.

This isn't a matter of talking anything "down". There's no evidence that indicates any sort of alarm is necessary or helpful here. Further, unlike climate change,  there is literally nothing we can do. The biggest vulnerability to solar radiation is the power grid, and it is  impossible to harden it sufficiently to operate without the Earth's magnetosphere for protection. Further, since there's no evidence that it will be called upon to do so, it's foolish to seriously consider it  anyway.

What we do know is that the weakened field allows solar radiation to reach the upper atmosphere. We know this because of radioisotopes gathered from 40,000 year old ice cores (the same ice cores that allow us to measure the relative quantity of CO2 in the atmosphere). We know that there's no correlation between mass extinction cycles and geomagnetic reversals, implying that there's no organic danger due to radiation. We know that geomagnetic activity is chaotic and seemingly random (it is emphatically  not periodic, and it's wrong to say we're "overdue" for a reversal). We know that the process is  usually slow, but it can sometimes happen very quickly- the 40,000 year old Laschamp event happened over the course of less that 500 years. The Cretaceous Superchron lasted 10 million years.


Wow... that tl;dr overreaction speaks volumes, I'd say.
 
2014-01-28 08:53:25 AM

THE GREAT NAME: that tl;dr overreaction speaks volumes, I'd say.


God forbid we discuss SCIENCE. Personally, I think this whole thing is  awesome, and it's exciting to think that I might see the start of a pole reversal in my lifetime. This pants-wetting freak-out garbage is just  sad. This is exciting, and we don't need the Daily Fail raining on our parade!
 
2014-01-28 09:01:36 AM
global EMP and economic technological equalization, interdependent globalization synchronization, pacification, demilitarization high fives,

-from planet magnetica.
 
2014-01-28 09:21:20 AM

neuroflare: Sounds like sensationalist bullshiat


GW or MAGFLIP?
 
2014-01-28 09:31:34 AM
I refuse to live in a godless world where the north pole is now in the south. If such an event occurs I regret to announce I will move out of New York, and will likely move to Texas or Florida where the poles are in their natural state.
 
2014-01-28 09:31:48 AM
All this has happened before. All this will happen again
 
2014-01-28 09:34:20 AM

t3knomanser: THE GREAT NAME: that tl;dr overreaction speaks volumes, I'd say.

God forbid we discuss SCIENCE. Personally, I think this whole thing is  awesome, and it's exciting to think that I might see the start of a pole reversal in my lifetime. This pants-wetting freak-out garbage is just  sad. This is exciting, and we don't need the Daily Fail raining on our parade!


This story is about science, so why are you trying to suppress it by calling it a "non-event"? What's your agenda?

PS you say "Daily Fail" but I bet you believe everything you read in the Guardian without question. Again, what's your agenda here???
 
2014-01-28 09:36:16 AM

THE GREAT NAME: This story is about science


No, it isn't. It's in the Daily Fail. This is a story about science in about the same way the  novel Cum for Bigfoot is a biography.

THE GREAT NAME: the Guardian without question


Oh yes, because I'm going to turn to a  newspaper for discussions on science. You are a sad, poor, little troll.
 
2014-01-28 09:38:02 AM

t3knomanser: THE GREAT NAME: This story is about science

No, it isn't. It's in the Daily Fail. This is a story about science in about the same way the  novel Cum for Bigfoot is a biography.

THE GREAT NAME: the Guardian without question

Oh yes, because I'm going to turn to a  newspaper for discussions on science. You are a sad, poor, little troll.


I see you are unable to answer my question. What should that tell us?
 
2014-01-28 09:38:06 AM

hardinparamedic: Given that this is being reported by the Daily Mail, a scientific journal of HIGH REPUTE, I don't see any reason to doubt this. Let the panic begin!

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 139x200]

Nah, I'm just shiatting you. The Daily Fail rags again!


Actually, they're not making this up.  Well, I don't know if they're exaggerating the potential consequences or not (or the idea that planetary warming is a result of magnetic changes rater than CO2, which I find hard to believe), but the Earth's magnetic poles do flip from time to time, and it looks like we're about to undergo that process soon (geologically speaking).   In fact, it happens, on average, every 450,000 years.  This is from wiki, showing the gradual migration of the north pole:

upload.wikimedia.org

Wandering poles are thought to precede a flip in the magnetic field.  But we don't really know, since humans weren't really around the last time this happened.  On the other hand, the measured decrease in the magnetic field strength may be the result of a temporary geomagnetic excursion, in which case the poles will go back to their usual places, and the magnetic field will return to full strength.
 
2014-01-28 09:40:32 AM
Wonder if it will be fast when it happens or take a while...

/also wonder if it will affect the climate directly.
 
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