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2014-01-27 11:45:20 PM
Yeah, they said I hadn't done anything and I could go and live on an island somewhere.

www.thematinee.ca
 
2014-01-27 11:45:41 PM

Anderson's Pooper: According to the article she has an attorney and, from reading between the lines, he was on the case from the first sentencing.  Why the fark didn't she call him on day 3??


In her defense, she *is* blonde.
 
2014-01-27 11:48:26 PM

Russ1642: Sounds like she and her lawyer knew about the mistake and were thinking that if she just stayed in jail she'd have a very good chance of a windfall when she got released. They're probably right.


I can see a situation where she sues for unlawful detainment and the Clark County DA's office sues her lawyer for an ethics violation by not alerting the prison authorities to the mistake.
 
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2014-01-27 11:49:55 PM
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2014-01-27 11:52:41 PM
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2014-01-27 11:54:32 PM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: JeffreyScott: I had client in a private workhouse facility
Well, I guess now I know how to respond when someone says "are there no workhouses?"


Is that like a half-way house?
 
2014-01-27 11:56:37 PM
Judge Jacobi  should spend 4 months, 29 days in jail.
 
2014-01-27 11:58:20 PM
I'd do her, just may slap on a rubber or two tho.
 
2014-01-28 12:06:26 AM
Maybe she found herself a new friend to shower with like in Orange is the New Black
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2014-01-28 12:06:29 AM

acohn: Russ1642: Sounds like she and her lawyer knew about the mistake and were thinking that if she just stayed in jail she'd have a very good chance of a windfall when she got released. They're probably right.

I can see a situation where she sues for unlawful detainment and the Clark County DA's office sues her lawyer for an ethics violation by not alerting the prison authorities to the mistake.


Nope, read the article, the judge tossed her in jail without telling her lawyer, the last the lawyer knew she was free in a drug treatment program, she violated it, judge jailed her and forgot about her, the only way this came to light was that the DA was reviewing old cases, saw that the judge had jailed her without due process, made inquiries and found her ass still sitting in jail.
as for why she didn't notify the guards, maybe she did and when they saw that she was to be held until further notice they shrugged and went on with life, as to why she didn't notify her attorney she may not have known how to contact him (they take your cell phone from ya in jail and I cant remember my own number without speed dial anymore) or she may just not have known she needed to.
 
2014-01-28 12:06:42 AM
Jails  should not be for profit.
 
2014-01-28 12:10:10 AM
Hot?

Didn't she and her pal harass young Luke Skywalker in that bar (and got her ass handed back by Obi Wan)?
 
2014-01-28 12:11:10 AM

grimlock1972: Jails  should not be for profit.


Ok

What does that have to do with this?

This isnt a private prison
 
2014-01-28 12:17:30 AM

netizencain: Dinki: It is unclear why Ms Hoffman did not let prison officials know that she was being held for an undue length of time.


If it was me I'd be sitting in my cell calculating the amount of money I'd be getting from the county for each day I stayed in prison.

3 hots and a cot, plus lawsuit money.  Sounds like win/win.  If it wasn't for prison rape, I may enjoy jail


The 3 hots and a cot era is pretty much over. Think bologna sandwiches, hot dogs, and hardboiled eggs every day, and depending on the pecking order, little more than a bench to sleep on with jails way over-crowded. And that's just in regular county jails, in private prisons it's even worse, stale or moldy, beds with bedbugs, minimal climate control, and so on. Decent in theory, but you'd damn well better do your research and pick the right place to do the crime.
 
2014-01-28 12:20:28 AM
I wonder how much the judge gets paid by the jail to "forget" about release orders.
 
2014-01-28 12:23:23 AM
Ok according to this article she didn't even have a lawyer at the time and she did try to notify the guards, even writing to the judge and clerks office to no avail.


FTA:

"I was no longer her attorney while she was in the drug court program," Masingo said, explaining that pubic defenders withdraw their legal services after offenders enter the drug court program. "However, once her liberty was at stake [incarceration], I should have been reappointed. The judge [Jacobi] should have reappointed the public defender's office to represent her before sending her to jail. That is part of her constitutional rights that were violated. They violated her due process rights and her right to representation by counsel. They did not reappoint me as her attorney like they should have."


"Since her release from incarceration, I was able to speak with her," Masingo said. "She informed that she wrote letters to Judge Jacobi as well as [a member] of the drug court staff, and she never received a response from either."



And apparently she found the only decent prosecuter in the country:

FTA:

Destiny Hoffman, 34, was released from the Michael L. Becher Adult Correctional Complex on Thursday, a day after Clark County Deputy Prosecutor Michaelia Gilbert discovered her status as an inmate while reviewing old case files.

Masingo met with Gilbert and Clark County Chief Deputy Prosecutor Jeremy Mull Monday for a pretrial conference to evaluate Hoffman's case.

It is expected that Gilbert will file a motion Tuesday to dismiss Hoffman's pending charges. The motion will have to be approved by a judge before the dismissal is official. Mull explained that due to the circumstances of Hoffman's case, it was appropriate for the Office of the Clark County Prosecutor to recommend a dismissal of her charges.

"With the long amount of time that she served incarcerated, I felt like it was the fair thing to do to give her the benefit of that agreement that she entered into, since she was not given the opportunity to fulfill the obligations and requirements," Mull said.
 
2014-01-28 12:28:31 AM

Wrencher: I wonder how much the judge gets paid by the jail to "forget" about release orders.


grimlock1972: Jails  should not be for profit.


Saturn5: Ok, it's a private jail.  Is it a private judge too?


FOR THE LAST TIME IT ISN"T A PRIVATE PRISON

It is operated by the county sheriff
/now wipe the chindrool off and find something else to derp about
 
2014-01-28 12:30:33 AM

cman: grimlock1972: Jails  should not be for profit.

Ok

What does that have to do with this?

This isnt a private prison


Yup, the jail (Michael L. Becher Adult Correctional Complex) isn't, but LifeSpring is the company that apparently lost her case file when they were supposed to evaluate and release her. Not quite the same as a private jail, but at least it's someone you can sue. There was a lot of fail to go around here.

Why do we not automatically remove judges who violate the Constitution, supposedly the highest law of the land, whether they meant to or not?
 
2014-01-28 12:34:16 AM

namatad: Dahnkster: Well, color me surprised. It is a private corporately owned jail.

Clark County Jail Holding Corp

Most of Indiana's juvenile detention centers are privately owned as well.

America, locking up more of it's citizens than any other country in the world for profit!
Corporations are buying your legislators and courts and locking up your friends and family.

easy enough
the judge spends 5 months in jail
TADA
problem solved


This
THIS!


Some people have jobs that an "oops" isn't much of an issue.  Others however....
 
2014-01-28 12:39:15 AM

cman: grimlock1972: Jails  should not be for profit.

Ok

What does that have to do with this?

This isnt a private prison


It appears you are correct. Their web site is here for anyone interested.
 
2014-01-28 12:47:46 AM

cman: Tymast: It's disturbing that we have privately run prisons, and these farkers have lobbyists for stricter laws.    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/06/23/251363/cca-geogroup-priso n -industry/  One of the most shameful things we allow to happen here.

What does private prisons have to do with this?


Private jails are notorious for bribing judges to put people in jail. They then bill the taxpayer for the amount of people they have in jail.

Is that simple enough, or can you not comprehend why this would be prone to abuse, because "OMG, FREE MARKET SOLUTIONS!'?
 
2014-01-28 12:52:22 AM

MFAWG: cman: Tymast: It's disturbing that we have privately run prisons, and these farkers have lobbyists for stricter laws.    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/06/23/251363/cca-geogroup-priso n -industry/  One of the most shameful things we allow to happen here.

What does private prisons have to do with this?

Private jails are notorious for bribing judges to put people in jail. They then bill the taxpayer for the amount of people they have in jail.

Is that simple enough, or can you not comprehend why this would be prone to abuse, because "OMG, FREE MARKET SOLUTIONS!'?


except that this ISN'T a private jail, as a dozen people have already pointed out so it has nothing to do with this story
 
2014-01-28 12:54:30 AM

MFAWG: cman: Tymast: It's disturbing that we have privately run prisons, and these farkers have lobbyists for stricter laws.    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/06/23/251363/cca-geogroup-priso n -industry/  One of the most shameful things we allow to happen here.

What does private prisons have to do with this?

Private jails are notorious for bribing judges to put people in jail. They then bill the taxpayer for the amount of people they have in jail.

Is that simple enough, or can you not comprehend why this would be prone to abuse, because "OMG, FREE MARKET SOLUTIONS!'?


Dude

This article is about a woman WITHOUT A LAWYER getting thrown in jail for nearly six months

This is not about for-profit prisons.
 
2014-01-28 12:59:39 AM
FTA

Clark County Deputy Prosecutor Michaelia Gilbert began investigating Hoffman's incarceration last Wednesday while reviewing old case files. She entered a motion seeking an immediate status hearing, writing that Hoffman's civil liberties were violated by the term of her incarceration.

Hmmmmm, so the prosecutor admits in papers filed with the court that Hoffman's civil rights were violated?  She sounds like a rare and decent person for doing the right thing but I do wonder how long she's going to be keeping her job?

Hoffman and her lawyer are going to be getting a very nice payday.
 
2014-01-28 01:02:17 AM
Has anybody started one of those White House petitions to have an amendment to the constitution banning for profit prisons?
 
2014-01-28 01:04:45 AM

mutterfark: Has anybody started one of those White House petitions to have an amendment to the constitution banning for profit prisons?


How would that help the victim here?

Oh, it wont, BECAUSE ITS ABOUT HER BEING THROWN IN JAIL FOR 6 MONTHS WITHOUT A LAWYER

It isnt a for-profit jail. It is ran by the state.
 
2014-01-28 01:19:55 AM

cman: mutterfark: Has anybody started one of those White House petitions to have an amendment to the constitution banning for profit prisons?

How would that help the victim here?
Oh, it wont, BECAUSE ITS ABOUT HER BEING THROWN IN JAIL FOR 6 MONTHS WITHOUT A LAWYER
It isnt a for-profit jail. It is ran by the state.


Yeah, but if it was a for-profit, private prison, you KNOW it would have even been worse because profit means some rich guy is abusing his privileges for the sake of evil.

I mean, isn't that so un-American? Private ownership, and profit? Why, they probably had this woman arrested so they could get her in a private prison, but then the publicly funded prison sorted out all the mess.
 
2014-01-28 01:22:53 AM

Dinki: It is unclear why Ms Hoffman did not let prison officials know that she was being held for an undue length of time.


If it was me I'd be sitting in my cell calculating the amount of money I'd be getting from the county for each day I stayed in prison.


Because it doesn't do any good. Nothing happens quickly in jail(BTW, it's jail, not "prison". They don't send you to prison for 48 hours). Just getting meds that you have Ben prescribed can take a week, maybe even more. And this includes important stuff like insulin. Your lawyer drops by? It's not unheard of for you to never find out. At the very least, it can be an hour or two, even though all they do is call your name, and walk you down the hall. Getting out? That can take hours. 2-3 hours from when a guard will tell you to get ready and another hour or two to process you out. Hell, they won't even get you to another court date. Got a ticket with a big fine coming up(suspended license, no insurance, etc.).? You can tell all of the people you want, you'll probably miss it. The real fun begins when the judge issues a bench warrant because you missed court, and then you go through the hours of rolling up and getting processed out, only to have them run your name, which is the last thing they do, checking for outstanding warrants, discovering this one and re-arresring you. All because you had no way to get to court, and the judge doesn't give a shiny new fark...

5 months is long, but it doesn't surprise me in the least. And keep in mind that these are NOT for profit jails that I'm talking about, this happens in municipal jails all of the time.

She also may have asked and either gotten no response or had some misinformed CO tell her that her sentence had been expanded, it's a safe bet that this woman didn't have a lawyer, or at least wasn't planning on involving him in a case this small.

Boy it's great to be in the USA where you have so many rights, isn't it?
 
2014-01-28 01:25:35 AM

Lucky LaRue: Well, she's a blonde


Nah, when you consider the "mugshot factor", she probably IS pretty good looking.
 
2014-01-28 01:26:27 AM

cman: mutterfark: Has anybody started one of those White House petitions to have an amendment to the constitution banning for profit prisons?

How would that help the victim here?

Oh, it wont, BECAUSE ITS ABOUT HER BEING THROWN IN JAIL FOR 6 MONTHS WITHOUT A LAWYER

It isnt a for-profit jail. It is ran by the state.


Obviously it won't. Since I was mistaken about the jail being run by private interests, I will apologize and express my sympathies with the victim instead.
 
2014-01-28 01:29:33 AM

cman: mutterfark: Has anybody started one of those White House petitions to have an amendment to the constitution banning for profit prisons?

How would that help the victim here?

Oh, it wont, BECAUSE ITS ABOUT HER BEING THROWN IN JAIL FOR 6 MONTHS WITHOUT A LAWYER

It isnt a for-profit jail. It is ran by the state.


Actually, it is run by the County, through the Clark County Jail Holding Corporation( owned by the County). Thus the confusion about it being a for profit jail.
 
2014-01-28 01:31:05 AM

mutterfark: cman: mutterfark: Has anybody started one of those White House petitions to have an amendment to the constitution banning for profit prisons?

How would that help the victim here?

Oh, it wont, BECAUSE ITS ABOUT HER BEING THROWN IN JAIL FOR 6 MONTHS WITHOUT A LAWYER

It isnt a for-profit jail. It is ran by the state.

Obviously it won't. Since I was mistaken about the jail being run by private interests, I will apologize and express my sympathies with the victim instead.


Clearly our government officials feel compelled to jail the shiat out of the populace whether there are private jails lining their pockets or not.
 
2014-01-28 01:32:07 AM

Anderson's Pooper: According to the article she has an attorney and, from reading between the lines, he was on the case from the first sentencing.  Why the fark didn't she call him on day 3??


That's not what it says here: "Hoffman's attorney, Nathan Masingo, said he was not even aware he client had been jailed and may file a lawsuit against county officials alleging she was unlawfully incarcerated."

TFA also states that "she was sent to jail without a hearing or legal counsel".

I actually don't see the lines that reading between would indicate that he was on the case from the first sentencing, I just posted the exact opposite, in fact.
 
2014-01-28 01:36:45 AM
JeffreyScott:
/I had client in a private workhouse facility, with AIDS, who was not provided her AIDS medication. (no suit filed, client decease)
//I had a pregnant client, in a private workhouse facility, loose her unborn child when they didn't transport her to the e-room, until hours later, despite being told to immediately transport her by their own medical staff.  (civil suit pending)
///I have had a client, in a private workhouse facility, placed in solitary confinement when he refused to beat up other inmates. (civil suit settled)


That is outrageous and unacceptable.

"Lose" is spelling with one "o."
 
2014-01-28 01:38:18 AM

Pribar: Wrencher: I wonder how much the judge gets paid by the jail to "forget" about release orders.

grimlock1972: Jails  should not be for profit.

Saturn5: Ok, it's a private jail.  Is it a private judge too?

FOR THE LAST TIME IT ISN"T A PRIVATE PRISON

It is operated by the county sheriff
/now wipe the chindrool off and find something else to derp about


Well, it was incorrectly stated to be a private jail upstream because it is owned by a corporation set up by the County. Please excuse me for commenting before reading the entire farking thread.

/I have a beard to deal with the chindrool through evaporation.
//no wiping required.
 
2014-01-28 01:38:29 AM
I hate myself for Rotskying my own post.

Ahem: "Lose" is spelled with one "o."

Thank you. Continue.
 
2014-01-28 01:44:27 AM

foxyshadis: netizencain: Dinki: It is unclear why Ms Hoffman did not let prison officials know that she was being held for an undue length of time.


If it was me I'd be sitting in my cell calculating the amount of money I'd be getting from the county for each day I stayed in prison.

3 hots and a cot, plus lawsuit money.  Sounds like win/win.  If it wasn't for prison rape, I may enjoy jail

The 3 hots and a cot era is pretty much over. Think bologna sandwiches, hot dogs, and hardboiled eggs every day, and depending on the pecking order, little more than a bench to sleep on with jails way over-crowded. And that's just in regular county jails, in private prisons it's even worse, stale or moldy, beds with bedbugs, minimal climate control, and so on. Decent in theory, but you'd damn well better do your research and pick the right place to do the crime.


A bench? Sometimes... I had to sleep on the floor under a "bed". 6 cells and 2 day rooms, 4 bed to each cellar they'd have 30 or more people in there, some would sleep on the table in the dayroom.

And the only way to get decent food was to get on the kitchen crew as a Trustee and make your own food.
 
2014-01-28 01:50:08 AM

JeffreyScott: Dahnkster: Well, color me surprised. It is a private corporately owned jail.

Clark County Jail Holding Corp

Most of Indiana's juvenile detention centers are privately owned as well.

America, locking up more of it's citizens than any other country in the world for profit!
Corporations are buying your legislators and courts and locking up your friends and family.

As much as I hate private jail/work houses/prisons, (see slashies) this was entirely the judges fault.

First, the judge sent the women to jail without a hearing or the appointment of legal counsel.  That is a clear violation of the her constitutional right to due process and right to counsel.

Then, the judge failed to note when the woman was supposed to be released, or in the alternative set a review date.  The facility had no authority to release the women when she was ordered held 'until further order of the court'.

This judge be removed from the bench.

/I had client in a private workhouse facility, with AIDS, who was not provided her AIDS medication. (no suit filed, client decease)
//I had a pregnant client, in a private workhouse facility, loose her unborn child when they didn't transport her to the e-room, until hours later, despite being told to immediately transport her by their own medical staff.  (civil suit pending)
///I have had a client, in a private workhouse facility, placed in solitary confinement when he refused to beat up other inmates. (civil suit settled)


Sounds like Maricopa County. They don't let Sheriff Joe play with the real prisoners, so he gets small-potatoes people like this. People have left in worse health than when they entered, either due to needed meds not being given, or to getting sick or injured in jail and getting ignored/overlooked for hours, sometimes days.
 
2014-01-28 01:51:17 AM

dr_blasto: Privatizing the prison/corrections shiat should be illegal. She should be able to sue the farkers into bankruptcy in a fair world.

But, since this is the daily fail, I understand the possibility that she was sentenced to five years and only served 7 days.


I was told to go back to infowars in a thread a while back after saying that bribery in the American congress and fatback for politicians is not only legal - but rampant. What else would you call lobbying?
 
2014-01-28 01:59:56 AM

Tymast: It's disturbing that we have privately run prisons, and these farkers have lobbyists for stricter laws.    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/06/23/251363/cca-geogroup-priso n -industry/  One of the most shameful things we allow to happen here.


It's equally disturbing that in states without privately run prisons we have prison guard unions that also have lobbyists pushing for stricter laws...

MFAWG: Private jails are notorious for bribing judges to put people in jail. They then bill the taxpayer for the amount of people they have in jail.


This is actually an argument for the prisons that are essentially 'flat fee', regardless of the number of prisoners.  Interesting thought.  I remember hearing that Minnisota is locked into one of these and due to dropping crime rates are having to scramble to keep it at capacity, much less over that(though OVER capacity would cost them money).

I'd 'love' to own a prison where the state has to pay me to store X prisoners when they can only manage to give me X/2 or so.  Heck, give me zero prisoners, I can turn the lights off...
 
2014-01-28 02:05:51 AM
There is in this thread a disappointing lack of judging this woman's looks and discussion of whether the various members would copulate with her. In addition, no one has complained that they can't fap to her photo.

Also, no one has posted the picture FTA alongside a photo of another individual bearing a resemblance to the subject, especially an uncomplimentary comparison.

Last but not least, no one has announced that they'll be in their bunk, or called for her to be showered and brought to their bedchamber.

Fark, I am disappoint.
 
2014-01-28 02:11:12 AM

MadAzza: JeffreyScott:
/I had client in a private workhouse facility, with AIDS, who was not provided her AIDS medication. (no suit filed, client decease)
//I had a pregnant client, in a private workhouse facility, loose her unborn child when they didn't transport her to the e-room, until hours later, despite being told to immediately transport her by their own medical staff.  (civil suit pending)
///I have had a client, in a private workhouse facility, placed in solitary confinement when he refused to beat up other inmates. (civil suit settled)

That is outrageous and unacceptable.

"Lose" is spelling with one "o."


Yeah, sorry for the typos.  Typing on my phone does that to me.
 
2014-01-28 02:49:58 AM
It requires more than just a judge farking up for this to happen for this length of time.
 
2014-01-28 03:09:22 AM
Subby's a liar.
 
2014-01-28 03:17:01 AM
Mikey1969:

Boy it's great to be in the USA where you have so many rights, isn't it?


They don't really seem like rights to me when they're so easily taken away.
 
2014-01-28 03:29:10 AM
www.cbc.ca
Not amused.

/smokin hotlink
 
2014-01-28 03:31:41 AM
So, she's racked up 77 more dirty piss test credits. What the problem?
 
2014-01-28 04:09:54 AM
Since this is the Daily Fail, I can only assume that the REAL story is that she was jailed for contempt of court for trying to dilute the pee test. AFAIK, a judge can jail pretty much anyone in their courtroom for up to six months for any (or no) reason. Journalists get that shiat now and then for refusing to reveal a source. Maybe she actually told him to go fark himself and he threw her in the greybar hotel until she apologized.

Of course, a lot of judges are a hundred years old and maybe he just forgot to fill out the paperwork thanks to the rampant senility or the fumes from the onion on his belt.
 
2014-01-28 04:43:28 AM

Mikey1969: A bench? Sometimes... I had to sleep on the floor under a "bed". 6 cells and 2 day rooms, 4 bed to each cellar they'd have 30 or more people in there, some would sleep on the table in the dayroom.

And the only way to get decent food was to get on the kitchen crew as a Trustee and make your own food.


I don't doubt it. I've been in one half-decent jail (except the fingerprint scanner didn't work for shiat and took ages), and a couple of really shiatty ones. And I know I haven't come close to experiencing the worst out there.

soundguy: Since this is the Daily Fail, I can only assume that the REAL story is that she was jailed for contempt of court for trying to dilute the pee test. AFAIK, a judge can jail pretty much anyone in their courtroom for up to six months for any (or no) reason.


That's what the article I was reading said: "The sentence came after Hoffman provided a diluted drug screen result, a violation of the drug court program, which Jacobi oversees." More likely a probation violation than contempt, though.

Fortunately, you do see the occasional story of reining in of abuse of contempt, though I'd imagine most people hit with it never appeal the jailing. It's all a giant hassle for normal people with real jobs.

/I try not to read Daily Fail writeups, they give me brain damage.
 
2014-01-28 05:46:37 AM

JeffreyScott: MadAzza: JeffreyScott:
/I had client in a private workhouse facility, with AIDS, who was not provided her AIDS medication. (no suit filed, client decease)
//I had a pregnant client, in a private workhouse facility, loose her unborn child when they didn't transport her to the e-room, until hours later, despite being told to immediately transport her by their own medical staff.  (civil suit pending)
///I have had a client, in a private workhouse facility, placed in solitary confinement when he refused to beat up other inmates. (civil suit settled)

That is outrageous and unacceptable.

"Lose" is spelling with one "o."

Yeah, sorry for the typos.  Typing on my phone does that to me.


I came across as a jerk, but I was trying to be funny, in my own lame way. Sorry for any offense. Obviously you're an educated guy, and your post did reflect that. It's good to hear from someone who has an inside perspective, whatever the subject.
 
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