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(Belfast Telegraph)   Four years after having declared the Internet "completely over", Prince sues the last two fans he has left   (belfasttelegraph.co.uk) divider line 77
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2014-01-27 04:35:30 PM  
What a douche...
 
2014-01-27 04:36:47 PM  
What a dick.
 
2014-01-27 04:38:04 PM  
Nut job. Genius, talented. But a nut job.
 
2014-01-27 04:38:08 PM  
What a maroon
 
2014-01-27 04:39:47 PM  
I remember, not all that long ago, maybe like 10 years ago, you'd get thrown out of a sporting event, and probably banned from the arena, if you attempted to record any of the game.   These days, you have 20,000 people taking video and pictures with their phone, and i think it just became a hopeless exercise in futility to try and moderate it.

This is an interesting case if Prince succeeds... I wouldn't mind if they upheld the charges.
 
2014-01-27 04:45:25 PM  

T.rex: I remember, not all that long ago, maybe like 10 years ago, you'd get thrown out of a sporting event, and probably banned from the arena, if you attempted to record any of the game.   These days, you have 20,000 people taking video and pictures with their phone, and i think it just became a hopeless exercise in futility to try and moderate it.

This is an interesting case if Prince succeeds... I wouldn't mind if they upheld the charges.


Wouldn't the charges be more appropriately addressed to the individuals that recorded the event and uploaded the recordings? $1 Million dollars seems excessive for forwarding a link. The individuals posting links might be the same ones uploading, but the lawsuit (excerpts) do not state that.
 
2014-01-27 04:48:08 PM  

LindenFark: T.rex: I remember, not all that long ago, maybe like 10 years ago, you'd get thrown out of a sporting event, and probably banned from the arena, if you attempted to record any of the game.   These days, you have 20,000 people taking video and pictures with their phone, and i think it just became a hopeless exercise in futility to try and moderate it.

This is an interesting case if Prince succeeds... I wouldn't mind if they upheld the charges.

Wouldn't the charges be more appropriately addressed to the individuals that recorded the event and uploaded the recordings? $1 Million dollars seems excessive for forwarding a link. The individuals posting links might be the same ones uploading, but the lawsuit (excerpts) do not state that.


By all means, i consider the defendants no more guilty than anyone else on the planet. I don't wish them harm... Maybe the judge can make a ruling, saying, "starting now, this is the new rule. public, be warned".
 
2014-01-27 04:52:01 PM  

T.rex: LindenFark: T.rex: I remember, not all that long ago, maybe like 10 years ago, you'd get thrown out of a sporting event, and probably banned from the arena, if you attempted to record any of the game.   These days, you have 20,000 people taking video and pictures with their phone, and i think it just became a hopeless exercise in futility to try and moderate it.

This is an interesting case if Prince succeeds... I wouldn't mind if they upheld the charges.

Wouldn't the charges be more appropriately addressed to the individuals that recorded the event and uploaded the recordings? $1 Million dollars seems excessive for forwarding a link. The individuals posting links might be the same ones uploading, but the lawsuit (excerpts) do not state that.

By all means, i consider the defendants no more guilty than anyone else on the planet. I don't wish them harm... Maybe the judge can make a ruling, saying, "starting now, this is the new rule. public, be warned".


Nah, the genie won't go back in the bottle. If you want to sue someone, try HTC, Apple, and Nokia for putting cameras in everyone's hands.
 
2014-01-27 04:52:19 PM  

LindenFark: T.rex: I remember, not all that long ago, maybe like 10 years ago, you'd get thrown out of a sporting event, and probably banned from the arena, if you attempted to record any of the game.   These days, you have 20,000 people taking video and pictures with their phone, and i think it just became a hopeless exercise in futility to try and moderate it.

This is an interesting case if Prince succeeds... I wouldn't mind if they upheld the charges.

Wouldn't the charges be more appropriately addressed to the individuals that recorded the event and uploaded the recordings? $1 Million dollars seems excessive for forwarding a link. The individuals posting links might be the same ones uploading, but the lawsuit (excerpts) do not state that.


Prince has every right to protect his material and decide how, when, and where it is distributed.    The law allows those damages for people that violate that right, so that is what he is asking for.

The only people wrong here are his "two remaining last fans" that aren't fan enough to respect the artist's right to control his own work.
 
2014-01-27 05:02:44 PM  

Rent Party: Prince has every right to protect his material and decide how, when, and where it is distributed.


Good luck with that.
 
2014-01-27 05:04:01 PM  

Rent Party: LindenFark: T.rex: I remember, not all that long ago, maybe like 10 years ago, you'd get thrown out of a sporting event, and probably banned from the arena, if you attempted to record any of the game.   These days, you have 20,000 people taking video and pictures with their phone, and i think it just became a hopeless exercise in futility to try and moderate it.

This is an interesting case if Prince succeeds... I wouldn't mind if they upheld the charges.

Wouldn't the charges be more appropriately addressed to the individuals that recorded the event and uploaded the recordings? $1 Million dollars seems excessive for forwarding a link. The individuals posting links might be the same ones uploading, but the lawsuit (excerpts) do not state that.

Prince has every right to protect his material and decide how, when, and where it is distributed.    The law allows those damages for people that violate that right, so that is what he is asking for.

The only people wrong here are his "two remaining last fans" that aren't fan enough to respect the artist's right to control his own work.


Yes he does... but it's not like they were sharing copies of his albums for sale.  These were live concerts that Prince wasn't going to sell or distribute anyway... Sure, it's his right to throw a little hissy fit and say "Stop it!!"  but it's just a dickish thing to do... what exactly is he losing?  Unless his live shows suck monkey balls, the exposure could only create new fans and boost his record sales.  But, he is saying no, so I guess his live shows suck monkey balls.
 
2014-01-27 05:05:08 PM  

someonelse: Rent Party: Prince has every right to protect his material and decide how, when, and where it is distributed.

Good luck with that.


He seems to be doing a pretty good job of it, much to the outrage of the internet "everything is free" crowd.

There is a reason those damages are high.
 
2014-01-27 05:11:37 PM  

Rent Party: someonelse: Rent Party: Prince has every right to protect his material and decide how, when, and where it is distributed.

Good luck with that.

He seems to be doing a pretty good job of it, much to the outrage of the internet "everything is free" crowd.

There is a reason those damages are high.


Sure you can come up for a reason for anything.  Now just because there is a reason doesn't mean its a sane reason or based on any sort of realistic damage amount. But hey its a reason none the less.
 
2014-01-27 05:13:48 PM  

stonicus: Rent Party: LindenFark: T.rex: I remember, not all that long ago, maybe like 10 years ago, you'd get thrown out of a sporting event, and probably banned from the arena, if you attempted to record any of the game.   These days, you have 20,000 people taking video and pictures with their phone, and i think it just became a hopeless exercise in futility to try and moderate it.

This is an interesting case if Prince succeeds... I wouldn't mind if they upheld the charges.

Wouldn't the charges be more appropriately addressed to the individuals that recorded the event and uploaded the recordings? $1 Million dollars seems excessive for forwarding a link. The individuals posting links might be the same ones uploading, but the lawsuit (excerpts) do not state that.

Prince has every right to protect his material and decide how, when, and where it is distributed.    The law allows those damages for people that violate that right, so that is what he is asking for.

The only people wrong here are his "two remaining last fans" that aren't fan enough to respect the artist's right to control his own work.

Yes he does... but it's not like they were sharing copies of his albums for sale.  These were live concerts that Prince wasn't going to sell or distribute anyway...


Well, there ya go.   No oneother than Prince has the right to make that decision.  If you take it upon yourself to make that decision for him, you're the dick.  Not Prince.

 Sure, it's his right to throw a little hissy fit and say "Stop it!!"  but it's just a dickish thing to do... what exactly is he losing?

He is losing his right to control his material.   He's not making the dickish move, the dumb assholes deciding that for him are.

Unless his live shows suck monkey balls, the exposure could only create new fans and boost his record sales.  But, he is saying no, so I guess his live shows suck monkey balls.

Horse shiat.  Prince is one of the biggest artists on Earth.  He doesn't need some poor internet thief to help promote himself.
 
2014-01-27 05:15:27 PM  

Warlordtrooper: Rent Party: someonelse: Rent Party: Prince has every right to protect his material and decide how, when, and where it is distributed.

Good luck with that.

He seems to be doing a pretty good job of it, much to the outrage of the internet "everything is free" crowd.

There is a reason those damages are high.

Sure you can come up for a reason for anything.  Now just because there is a reason doesn't mean its a sane reason or based on any sort of realistic damage amount. But hey its a reason none the less.


"I own and control the material I produce" is a pretty damn good reason.

"I think I should control the material someone else produces" is a pretty farked up reason.
 
2014-01-27 05:19:01 PM  
An honest question:
If he has it posted at the venues "No cameras or video recording devices", obviously it's not ok to record.  But what if it isn't posted?  Does it still fall under copyright or trademark infringement or whatever given that the fans must have paid for the ticket to get in (or won it or whatever)?

While I respect artists' rights, I don't respect those artists who go about protecting their intellectual property in a douche nozzle manner.
 
2014-01-27 05:20:03 PM  
What are his views on Fire Bad?
 
2014-01-27 05:23:42 PM  
You would think thet Prince's "biggest fans" would know how he feels about his work appearing online and respect that.
 
2014-01-27 05:24:12 PM  

LisaNeedsBraces: An honest question:
If he has it posted at the venues "No cameras or video recording devices", obviously it's not ok to record.  But what if it isn't posted?  Does it still fall under copyright or trademark infringement or whatever given that the fans must have paid for the ticket to get in (or won it or whatever)?


Yes.  That copyright exists regardless of any sign or notification.    Most venues post "no recording signs" as a courtesy to the artists, not the patrons.

While I respect artists' rights, I don't respect those artists who go about protecting their intellectual property in a douche nozzle manner.

The courts are the method by which copyright violation is remedied.    The only "douche nozzle" activity here is the people uploading.
 
2014-01-27 05:25:33 PM  

Rent Party: Warlordtrooper: Rent Party: someonelse: Rent Party: Prince has every right to protect his material and decide how, when, and where it is distributed.

Good luck with that.

He seems to be doing a pretty good job of it, much to the outrage of the internet "everything is free" crowd.

There is a reason those damages are high.

Sure you can come up for a reason for anything.  Now just because there is a reason doesn't mean its a sane reason or based on any sort of realistic damage amount. But hey its a reason none the less.

"I own and control the material I produce" is a pretty damn good reason.

"I think I should control the material someone else produces" is a pretty farked up reason.


Nothing you said would justify 1 million dollars in damages.  I have yet to hear anyone specifically list exactly why damages should be that high.   There is no logic behind the amount being asked for.
 
2014-01-27 05:28:14 PM  
Warlordtrooper:

"I own and control the material I produce" is a pretty damn good reason.

"I think I should control the material someone else produces" is a pretty farked up reason.

Nothing you said would justify 1 million dollars in damages.  I have yet to hear anyone specifically list exactly why damages should be that high.   There is no logic behind the amount being asked for.


It is a great deterrent for other douche nozzles that think it's OK thing to do.   That hammer may not fall frequently, but when it does, people will remember the splat it made.

The law allows those damages.  If you don't like it, you should call your congressman.
 
2014-01-27 05:31:32 PM  

JNowe: What are his views on Fire Bad?



www.codeodor.com

T-shirts good.
 
2014-01-27 05:33:58 PM  
Rent Party:
Horse shiat.  Prince is one of the biggest artists on Earth.

cdn2.hellogiggles.com
 
2014-01-27 05:36:20 PM  

Rent Party: LisaNeedsBraces: An honest question:
If he has it posted at the venues "No cameras or video recording devices", obviously it's not ok to record.  But what if it isn't posted?  Does it still fall under copyright or trademark infringement or whatever given that the fans must have paid for the ticket to get in (or won it or whatever)?

Yes.  That copyright exists regardless of any sign or notification.    Most venues post "no recording signs" as a courtesy to the artists, not the patrons.

While I respect artists' rights, I don't respect those artists who go about protecting their intellectual property in a douche nozzle manner.

The courts are the method by which copyright violation is remedied.    The only "douche nozzle" activity here is the people uploading.


Thanks for the info!  It's amazing the stuff you can learn on Fark :)
I should clarify, though: When I mentioned "douche nozzle", I mean the kind of artist who goes straight into lawsuit overdrive instead of politely (but sternly) demanding the offending material be removed.  If Prince did this & they still wouldn't remove the vids, then yeah - get the lawyers.
 
2014-01-27 05:36:24 PM  
Then he served them pancakes.
 
2014-01-27 05:41:14 PM  

perigee: Rent Party:
Horse shiat.  Prince is one of the biggest artists on Earth.

[cdn2.hellogiggles.com image 350x289]


Yeah, decades of global touring playing such low rent arenas like Madison Square Garden, seven Grammys, 100 million albums sold, and dozens of certified gold and platinum records and singles...

The dude is a chump.

/ Or you're a moron.
// Going with moron.
 
2014-01-27 05:47:22 PM  

Rent Party: perigee: Rent Party:
Horse shiat.  Prince is one of the biggest artists on Earth.

[cdn2.hellogiggles.com image 350x289]

Yeah, decades of global touring playing such low rent arenas like Madison Square Garden, seven Grammys, 100 million albums sold, and dozens of certified gold and platinum records and singles...

The dude is a chump.

/ Or you're a moron.
// Going with moron.


Dude is 5'2". Not "Biggest." "Smallest."

And Elvis beats him, since we're talking about ANCIENT HISTORY.

Get a sense of humor - he won't fark you, I swear. But, if you need something to jack to:

static.popdash.com

Get on with your bad self...
 
2014-01-27 05:47:43 PM  
Game... Blouses.
 
2014-01-27 05:55:24 PM  

perigee: Rent Party: perigee: Rent Party:
Horse shiat.  Prince is one of the biggest artists on Earth.

[cdn2.hellogiggles.com image 350x289]

Yeah, decades of global touring playing such low rent arenas like Madison Square Garden, seven Grammys, 100 million albums sold, and dozens of certified gold and platinum records and singles...

The dude is a chump.

/ Or you're a moron.
// Going with moron.

Dude is 5'2". Not "Biggest." "Smallest."

And Elvis beats him, since we're talking about ANCIENT HISTORY.

Get a sense of humor - he won't fark you, I swear. But, if you need something to jack to:

[static.popdash.com image 400x389]

Get on with your bad self...


I apologize for not getting your joke.   But it was poorly delivered.
 
2014-01-27 05:59:03 PM  
Mister Prince will have to prove and justify every dollar of those damages, correct?
 
2014-01-27 06:00:53 PM  

Rent Party: stonicus: Rent Party: LindenFark: T.rex: I remember, not all that long ago, maybe like 10 years ago, you'd get thrown out of a sporting event, and probably banned from the arena, if you attempted to record any of the game.   These days, you have 20,000 people taking video and pictures with their phone, and i think it just became a hopeless exercise in futility to try and moderate it.

This is an interesting case if Prince succeeds... I wouldn't mind if they upheld the charges.

Wouldn't the charges be more appropriately addressed to the individuals that recorded the event and uploaded the recordings? $1 Million dollars seems excessive for forwarding a link. The individuals posting links might be the same ones uploading, but the lawsuit (excerpts) do not state that.

Prince has every right to protect his material and decide how, when, and where it is distributed.    The law allows those damages for people that violate that right, so that is what he is asking for.

The only people wrong here are his "two remaining last fans" that aren't fan enough to respect the artist's right to control his own work.

Yes he does... but it's not like they were sharing copies of his albums for sale.  These were live concerts that Prince wasn't going to sell or distribute anyway...

Well, there ya go.   No oneother than Prince has the right to make that decision.  If you take it upon yourself to make that decision for him, you're the dick.  Not Prince.

 Sure, it's his right to throw a little hissy fit and say "Stop it!!"  but it's just a dickish thing to do... what exactly is he losing?

He is losing his right to control his material.   He's not making the dickish move, the dumb assholes deciding that for him are.

Unless his live shows suck monkey balls, the exposure could only create new fans and boost his record sales.  But, he is saying no, so I guess his live shows suck monkey balls.

Horse shiat.  Prince is one of the biggest artists has-beens on Earth.(there, fixed it for you)  He doesn't need some poor internet ...

 
2014-01-27 06:04:46 PM  

Death Whisper: has-beens



LOL I don't think so
 
2014-01-27 06:08:40 PM  
Prince is the new guitarist for Metallica?
 
2014-01-27 06:22:36 PM  
You can't bust someone for posting A LINK to material on another website.unless it starts a direct DL of that material. Otherwise you're simply giving directions to a place that may or may not have what the link indicates. It's up to the reader to click the link and discover what's really there.

Ever been Rick-rolled?

Posting a link doesn't mean shiat.
 
2014-01-27 06:30:45 PM  

Rent Party: Horse shiat. Prince is one of the biggest artists on Earth. He doesn't need some poor internet thief to help promote himself.


ummm, what's the last song that Prince released that made it into the top 40?

1999, way back in 1998.

When I go online and see that ticket to see Prince live are well over $100, I kind of want to know WTF I'm going to be seeing. Is the majority of stuff he's going to be playing from his newer albums, or no? And at this point is Prince just milking it, or is the show actually lively? And heck, what do those songs even sound like live, it's not like they're on spotify or being played on the radio.

Sure it's his right to do whatever crazy thing he wants, and people will still want to see him because he's Prince. But by being so overprotective of his material he's not going to be picking up new fans, and fans of his older stuff might keep the money they would have shelled out and go to the strip club instead.
 
2014-01-27 06:36:00 PM  

pedobearapproved: Rent Party: Horse shiat. Prince is one of the biggest artists on Earth. He doesn't need some poor internet thief to help promote himself.

ummm, what's the last song that Prince released that made it into the top 40?

1999, way back in 1998.


Grammy in 2008.   last year.   Platium album in 2006.  Gold album in 2009.   Sold out multiple shows at MSG and Oracle arena... last year.

The dude is huge and packs great big stadiums full of people.

He is one of the biggest artists on Earth.

You'll just have to deal with that fact.
 
2014-01-27 06:38:53 PM  

Warlordtrooper: Rent Party: Warlordtrooper: Rent Party: someonelse: Rent Party: Prince has every right to protect his material and decide how, when, and where it is distributed.

Good luck with that.

He seems to be doing a pretty good job of it, much to the outrage of the internet "everything is free" crowd.

There is a reason those damages are high.

Sure you can come up for a reason for anything.  Now just because there is a reason doesn't mean its a sane reason or based on any sort of realistic damage amount. But hey its a reason none the less.

"I own and control the material I produce" is a pretty damn good reason.

"I think I should control the material someone else produces" is a pretty farked up reason.

Nothing you said would justify 1 million dollars in damages.  I have yet to hear anyone specifically list exactly why damages should be that high.   There is no logic behind the amount being asked for.


Can somebody help Warlordtrooper find the word 'punitive' in the dictionary?

Kthxbye
 
2014-01-27 06:43:29 PM  
Don't worry, Douche Formerly Known As Washed-Up Has-Been, people will stop sharing links, or anything else about you, soon enough
 
2014-01-27 06:55:20 PM  

Rent Party: Warlordtrooper:

"I own and control the material I produce" is a pretty damn good reason.

"I think I should control the material someone else produces" is a pretty farked up reason.

Nothing you said would justify 1 million dollars in damages.  I have yet to hear anyone specifically list exactly why damages should be that high.   There is no logic behind the amount being asked for.

It is a great deterrent for other douche nozzles that think it's OK thing to do.   That hammer may not fall frequently, but when it does, people will remember the splat it made.

The law allows those damages.  If you don't like it, you should call your congressman.


But those aren't the actual damages.  Bsides the law was written to create a reason for corporations not to do that.  A million dollar fine is not excessive when applied to a corporation, when applied to a human being it is.
 
2014-01-27 06:58:06 PM  
This is exactly why I like bands like Yonder Mountain String Band. They don't care if you record their shows. In fact, they have a free MP3 download of the entire live show on their website few days after the performance. Plus, they play for about three kick ass hours.
 
2014-01-27 06:59:10 PM  

Rent Party: pedobearapproved: Rent Party: Horse shiat. Prince is one of the biggest artists on Earth. He doesn't need some poor internet thief to help promote himself.

ummm, what's the last song that Prince released that made it into the top 40?

1999, way back in 1998.

Grammy in 2008.   last year.   Platium album in 2006.  Gold album in 2009.   Sold out multiple shows at MSG and Oracle arena... last year.



*eyeroll*

Care to sing a line of "Baby Mama Drama" or whatever song he won the Grammy for without looking it up? Yeah, you never heard the song. You in fact haven't heard the song so hard, you can't even tell me the correct song title without looking it up. Huge mega hit. And let me remind you Mili Vanilli won a Grammy too.

and Prince manipulates album sales so he'd get those gold and platinum albums. For instance he had the Mail distribute a free copy of the album with their paper subscription and those all counted as sales. In the 80s and 90s he would have never had to do that, because, you know, he had hit songs.

when you hide your music away I think the majority of people are going to think there is a reason, and the reason is that's not that good any more.
 
2014-01-27 07:00:07 PM  
And yes, Prince sells a lot of arena seats. Old people go to them mostly. The Eagles and Stones take old people's money in the same way.
 
2014-01-27 07:02:10 PM  
Prince, can I ask you something?

You say that they link to an "unlawful" copy of the live song from that concert.

That means there's a LAWFUL way to buy a cd of that performance, right?   Right?
 
2014-01-27 07:25:34 PM  
Satanic_Hamster:
That means there's a LAWFUL way to buy a cd of that performance, right?   Right?

You are not entitled to anything to do with a live performance other than what your ticket gets you:   A seat in the audience.

If Prince doesn't want to publish live copies of his shows, your options are tough shiat.
 
2014-01-27 07:26:17 PM  

pedobearapproved: Rent Party: pedobearapproved: Rent Party: Horse shiat. Prince is one of the biggest artists on Earth. He doesn't need some poor internet thief to help promote himself.

ummm, what's the last song that Prince released that made it into the top 40?

1999, way back in 1998.

Grammy in 2008.   last year.   Platium album in 2006.  Gold album in 2009.   Sold out multiple shows at MSG and Oracle arena... last year.


*eyeroll*

Care to sing a line of "Baby Mama Drama" or whatever song he won the Grammy for without looking it up? Yeah, you never heard the song. You in fact haven't heard the song so hard, you can't even tell me the correct song title without looking it up. Huge mega hit. And let me remind you Mili Vanilli won a Grammy too.

and Prince manipulates album sales so he'd get those gold and platinum albums. For instance he had the Mail distribute a free copy of the album with their paper subscription and those all counted as sales. In the 80s and 90s he would have never had to do that, because, you know, he had hit songs.


Ohhhh.... So it's a conspiracy!

*eyes roll*
 
2014-01-27 07:50:02 PM  
Most artists have learned having your material on the internet actually keeps your name out there and sells your concert tickets and albums as more people are exposed to you.

Prince is a dinosaur in this industry and the shiat he has pulled like this in the last decade is hurting him more than helping. With his policies against youtube i doubt many younger folks have a clue who he is which means less new fans to keep the money rolling.
 
2014-01-27 07:58:07 PM  

Rent Party: Satanic_Hamster:
That means there's a LAWFUL way to buy a cd of that performance, right?   Right?

You are not entitled to anything to do with a live performance other than what your ticket gets you:   A seat in the audience.

If Prince doesn't want to publish live copies of his shows, your options are tough shiat.


What if I'm wearing a Google Glass?  I've heard I have an unalienable right to wear those and look at anything or anyone I damn well please any time for any length of time.  What they see while I'm wearing them is MY property, no one else's, and I choose to publish what I SEE with a Google Glass that is My Right.
 
2014-01-27 08:07:28 PM  

BumpInTheNight: What if I'm wearing a Google Glass?  I've heard I have an unalienable right to wear those and look at anything or anyone I damn well please any time for any length of time.  What they see while I'm wearing them is MY property, no one else's, and I choose to publish what I SEE with a Google Glass that is My Right.


Apparently you CAN do that but if you let a single other person see the recording you're scum.
 
2014-01-27 08:14:08 PM  
I love his work, but he has always been a control freak, he has always been a flake, and he has gotten worse since his conversion to JW and the loss of his child.

Back in the glory days, he was responsible for so many projects, too. The Time, Sheila E., Apollonia 6, Vanity 6, The Family, Jill Jones... All were his music, his producing, his lyrics (with a few exceptions), and he even recorded a lot of their songs with his vocals and then had the band's vocalist lay down new lead vocals using his vocals as a guide for HOW they were to sing.

St. Paul quit The Family because he was annoyed by how much control Prince insisted on having. Not just the songs and music, but the vocal style HAD to be the way Prince told them it should be.

And if you listen to his best work, you'll find that a lot of the greatness had to do with Susannah Melvoin, Jill Jones, Wendy Melvoin, and Lisa Coleman all contributing their own amazing talents to his work. Sure, he's a genius, but his best stuff was his best stuff because he had those people as resources and to serve as a buffer between himself and the listening audience. The songs weren't "all Prince all the time." He wisely placed Jill or Susannah's vocals next to his (and he actually let Jill sing her way most of the time, because he was so impressed with her skills). He was smart enough back then to realize that Wendy & Lisa had some good ideas and co-wrote with them.

When the Revolution split up, and he formed the NPG, it was a shift in how he did things. He went from a control-oriented collaboration to a total control situation. He wanted to be like James Brown, who was notorious for being in control of every little aspect of every piece of music he performed, and being a major ass-bite if his band didn't do it his way.

And if we're honest-- If we're REALLY honest-- Prince's formula during the Revolution years was to take James Brown's style, beats, and moves, and let Wendy & Lisa add some of their more ethereal sounds. When he switched to NPG, it was straight-up James Brown with some modern R&B and gospel dashed in.

So... yeah, he's a genius, but he's also notoriously nutty and a bit of a jerkbag. if you want some fun reading, check out Kevin Smith's story of working for Prince. It's insightful.

/And you thought I was going to post Prince is Dead again, didn't you?
//Not this time motherfarker. Not this time.
 
2014-01-27 08:14:12 PM  
Yes, Prince is technically right.

But he takes a bigger PR hit to behave in a fashion that many consider douche-nozzley.

He will not win new fans and will alienate the old. Such as myself.

I will not purchase anything he offers in the future.

Not because he is protecting his rights, because of the way he is protecting his rights.
 
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