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2014-01-27 03:33:47 PM  
Dammit haters, even the LAWYERS are against you now. You are so screwed.
 
2014-01-27 03:49:49 PM  
What are things coming to when a God fearing Christian can't drag gay men to death behind their pickup truck any more?  It's the end of Freedom.
 
2014-01-27 04:18:19 PM  
I'd love to see them come out and say "Oh yeah, and if you try to just remove the concept of marriage from law as some sort of hissy fit, you're farking over a massive amount of family law waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than any gay marriages or gay marriages getting banned would do."
 
2014-01-27 04:19:29 PM  
News: group of citizens opposes amendment banning gay marriage because it could lead to "years of litigation".

Or people oppose amendment banning gay marriage because they are decent human beings who don't think it is right to deny someone their fundamental rights just because they are gay.

But you know, either one.
 
2014-01-27 04:19:39 PM  

Bloody William: I'd love to see them come out and say "Oh yeah, and if you try to just remove the concept of marriage from law as some sort of hissy fit, you're farking over a massive amount of family law waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than any gay marriages or gay marriages getting banned would do."


Not seeing the downside...
 
2014-01-27 04:21:01 PM  
Glad my bar association finally got its head out of its ass.
 
2014-01-27 04:23:27 PM  
How about "Bar Association oppose Amendment banning Gay Marriage because they are mostly rational, educated human beings who believe that people should be treated equally before the Law, and not mouth-breathing fundies".
 
2014-01-27 04:27:53 PM  
The litigation is going to come with the samer weddings and other non traditional marriages that will soon follow. That is why the lawyers like it. The lawyers are salivating over the alimony potential of polygamous divorces.
 
2014-01-27 04:30:04 PM  
As a resident Fark moderate even I say let em get married!!
 
2014-01-27 04:31:31 PM  
Lawyers opposed to litigation?  Huh.  I didn't know I'd woken up in Bizarro World this morning.
 
2014-01-27 04:33:46 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: The litigation is going to come with the samer weddings and other non traditional marriages that will soon follow. That is why the lawyers like it. The lawyers are salivating over the alimony potential of polygamous divorces.


And here I thought they were just tired of going thru the same motions all over again. The legal work is all copying the same forms filed elsewhere and changing the local details.
 
2014-01-27 04:35:26 PM  

wildcardjack: Noam Chimpsky: The litigation is going to come with the samer weddings and other non traditional marriages that will soon follow. That is why the lawyers like it. The lawyers are salivating over the alimony potential of polygamous divorces.

And here I thought they were just tired of going thru the same motions all over again. The legal work is all copying the same forms filed elsewhere and changing the local details.


...did he say "samer weddings?" Is that going to be a new thing?
 
2014-01-27 04:35:57 PM  
There's no money in arguing gay marriage or any legislation for that matter.  The money is in settlements and financial decisions.  Keep gay marriage legal and sue the pants off of people who refuse to let people parttake in such ceremonies.
 
2014-01-27 04:36:25 PM  
What's more important is how the Indiana House is leaning. And right now, they're right on the border of approving it: of the 76 members who have stated their opinion one way or the other, they are perfectly divided 38-38. If more than half of the people who are undecided or gave no comment vote no, the amendment goes bye-bye.
 
2014-01-27 04:37:16 PM  
The Bar Associations really, really, really want gay marriage.  They tend to lean left, and it expands revenue for their members.  It's a neat alignment of interests.

/Was pro-gay marriage before it was cool.
 
2014-01-27 04:37:25 PM  
Not sure if the Bar is too lazy (too much work involved in all that litigation) too altruistic (save the taxpayers money from all this litigation we will be doing) too stupid (think of all the job security and billable hours that are going to happen with passage) or just plain too homophobic. I mean, interracial marriages were one illegal and I wonder if the Bar of a certain states had these same suppositions.
 
2014-01-27 04:37:27 PM  
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2014-01-27 04:52:23 PM  

Bloody William: ...did he say "samer weddings?" Is that going to be a new thing?

 
2014-01-27 04:55:34 PM  

Bloody William: ...did he say "samer weddings?" Is that going to be a new thing?


I think the same way "breeder" is a thing.

// ...a thing said on the internet only, that may or may not have started as an in-joke, and that is used only to attempt to elicit a response from an "offended" party, thus legitimizing further stigmatization of the group ("they call us names, let's call them names back!")
 
2014-01-27 04:57:22 PM  

Dr Dreidel: I think the same way "breeder" is a thing.


The only people I have EVER heard use the term "breeder" are my DINK friends. My gay friends either want kids someday, or think it's a stupid term.
 
2014-01-27 04:58:46 PM  

what_now: Dr Dreidel: I think the same way "breeder" is a thing.

The only people I have EVER heard use the term "breeder" are my DINK friends. My gay friends either want kids someday, or think it's a stupid term.


DINK?

My gay friends occasionally use the term, but usually only as a joke when they want to sound as comedically flaming as possible.
 
2014-01-27 05:01:36 PM  

Bloody William: what_now: Dr Dreidel: I think the same way "breeder" is a thing.

The only people I have EVER heard use the term "breeder" are my DINK friends. My gay friends either want kids someday, or think it's a stupid term.

DINK?

My gay friends occasionally use the term, but usually only as a joke when they want to sound as comedically flaming as possible.


Only time i've seriously heard that term it was in talking about animal husbandry operations.
 
2014-01-27 05:01:40 PM  

gwowen: How about "Bar Association oppose Amendment banning Gay Marriage because they are mostly rational, educated human beings who believe that people should be treated equally before the Law, and not mouth-breathing fundies".


Eyeballs revolted, read it as "fart breathing fundies", but notice it detracts none by doing so. Carry on.
 
2014-01-27 05:05:31 PM  

Bloody William: DINK?


Double Income No Kids.
 
2014-01-27 05:06:44 PM  
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2014-01-27 05:08:24 PM  

Bloody William: what_now: Dr Dreidel: I think the same way "breeder" is a thing.

The only people I have EVER heard use the term "breeder" are my DINK friends. My gay friends either want kids someday, or think it's a stupid term.

DINK?

My gay friends occasionally use the term, but usually only as a joke when they want to sound as comedically flaming as possible.


Double (or Dual) Income, No Kids

That at least describes both same-sex and different-sex couples where both partners work and they have no kids. "Breeder" (at least to me) implies that the offspring will be biologically related to both halves of the couple, hence why it's a "slur" used by "the gays".

// though not necessarily related to The Breeders
 
2014-01-27 05:13:14 PM  
The BAR is afraid of litigation costs all of a sudden???  You know that's got to be a scam.

No matter which way this thing goes, there will be decades of lawsuits over this "social justice" crap.
 
2014-01-27 05:13:38 PM  

Bloody William: I'd love to see them come out and say "Oh yeah, and if you try to just remove the concept of marriage from law as some sort of hissy fit, you're farking over a massive amount of family law waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than any gay marriages or gay marriages getting banned would do."


I'd rather see the religious aspect of religion gone. Again.
 
2014-01-27 05:18:52 PM  
I am actually surprised by the overwhelming support for this position.

75% for public opposition
5% for public support
20% for no position

I hope this is an indication that the bill will struggle in a vote (though I suspect the educated, wealthier domographic is much more weighted towards gay marriage than the average Indianan)
 
2014-01-27 05:22:32 PM  
Solution to all this: Bible thumping morons, leave other people alone to live their lives in peace, especially consenting adults.
No lawsuits. Done.
/I'll be expecting my Nobel soon
 
2014-01-27 05:23:24 PM  

Mr Perkins: The BAR is afraid of litigation costs all of a sudden???  You know that's got to be a scam.

No matter which way this thing goes, there will be decades of lawsuits over this "social justice" crap.


Virtually all the lawyers in the Indiana bar are taxpayers and would have to help foot the bill for the litigation.

A very small proportion would be involved in defending the amendment in court and making money off it.

Hell, there are probably more that would be profiting from prenups, divorces, etc than litigation over the amendment.

And it is probably easier for the organization to use that justification than "we support the gays"
 
2014-01-27 05:23:27 PM  
All I can say is that Brian Bosma can suck it. You know he secretly likes to, or he wouldn't be so aggressively anti-gay. The lady doth protest too much.
 
2014-01-27 05:39:57 PM  

what_now: Bloody William: DINK?

Double Income No Kids.


 i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-27 05:45:48 PM  
American Honkytonk Bar Association too drunk to voice opinion, offer Drew membership.
 
2014-01-27 05:49:31 PM  

Bloody William: wildcardjack: Noam Chimpsky: The litigation is going to come with the samer weddings and other non traditional marriages that will soon follow. That is why the lawyers like it. The lawyers are salivating over the alimony potential of polygamous divorces.

And here I thought they were just tired of going thru the same motions all over again. The legal work is all copying the same forms filed elsewhere and changing the local details.

...did he say "samer weddings?" Is that going to be a new thing?


I've heard that the "samer wedding" thing is really taking off in certain circles. As it turns out, it's the alternative community that likes it because it's a term that can apply to both of the kinds of homosexual weddings without using the term "homosexual wedding" which they dislike more than "samer wedding".
 
2014-01-27 05:57:32 PM  

Bloody William: wildcardjack: Noam Chimpsky: The litigation is going to come with the samer weddings and other non traditional marriages that will soon follow. That is why the lawyers like it. The lawyers are salivating over the alimony potential of polygamous divorces.

And here I thought they were just tired of going thru the same motions all over again. The legal work is all copying the same forms filed elsewhere and changing the local details.

...did he say "samer weddings?" Is that going to be a new thing?


Check your cis privilege
 
2014-01-27 06:15:18 PM  

FLMountainMan: The Bar Associations really, really, really want gay marriage.  They tend to lean left, and it expands revenue for their members.  It's a neat alignment of interests.

/Was pro-gay marriage before it was cool.


On what planet is the Bar Association leaning LEFT?  These are Law-n-Order types of the first degree.  More ambiguity, more exceptions, more litigation.  Or did you mean it's somehow Liberal to think the Equal Protection clause applies regardless of orientation?
 
2014-01-27 06:27:11 PM  

dionysusaur: FLMountainMan: The Bar Associations really, really, really want gay marriage.  They tend to lean left, and it expands revenue for their members.  It's a neat alignment of interests.

/Was pro-gay marriage before it was cool.

On what planet is the Bar Association leaning LEFT?  These are Law-n-Order types of the first degree.  More ambiguity, more exceptions, more litigation.  Or did you mean it's somehow Liberal to think the Equal Protection clause applies regardless of orientation?


Sorry, my comment was unclear.  Most state Bar associations do lean left.  This one is a notable (and stupid) exception.
 
2014-01-27 06:35:57 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Bloody William: wildcardjack: Noam Chimpsky: The litigation is going to come with the samer weddings and other non traditional marriages that will soon follow. That is why the lawyers like it. The lawyers are salivating over the alimony potential of polygamous divorces.

And here I thought they were just tired of going thru the same motions all over again. The legal work is all copying the same forms filed elsewhere and changing the local details.

...did he say "samer weddings?" Is that going to be a new thing?

I've heard that the "samer wedding" thing is really taking off in certain circles. As it turns out, it's the alternative community that likes it because it's a term that can apply to both of the kinds of homosexual weddings without using the term "homosexual wedding" which they dislike more than "samer wedding".


You seem to know a lot about this. I guess when you are obsessed with other people's sex lives, you do your research.
 
2014-01-27 06:38:31 PM  
 
2014-01-27 06:52:11 PM  

Bloody William: ...did he say "samer weddings?" Is that going to be a new thing?


apartmentdwellerssurvivalguide.com
 
2014-01-27 06:52:37 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: samer weddings


Samer weddings? Anyone care to translate?
 
2014-01-27 06:57:40 PM  
There's no money in suing for gay marriage rights. The big money is in divorces.

\Just cynical enough to think like a lawyer.
 
2014-01-27 07:19:49 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Bloody William: wildcardjack: Noam Chimpsky: The litigation is going to come with the samer weddings and other non traditional marriages that will soon follow. That is why the lawyers like it. The lawyers are salivating over the alimony potential of polygamous divorces.

And here I thought they were just tired of going thru the same motions all over again. The legal work is all copying the same forms filed elsewhere and changing the local details.

...did he say "samer weddings?" Is that going to be a new thing?

I've heard that the "samer wedding" thing is really taking off in certain circles. As it turns out, it's the alternative community that likes it because it's a term that can apply to both of the kinds of homosexual weddings without using the term "homosexual wedding" which they dislike more than "samer wedding".


When did "gay" stop including lesbians?
 
2014-01-27 07:35:58 PM  

brantgoose: There's no money in suing for gay marriage rights. The big money is in divorces.

\Just cynical enough to think like a lawyer.


Ya know I think you're right, I mean after all only a few lawyers get the big profile civil right's cases but all lawyers can make a buck from divorce.
 
2014-01-27 08:22:40 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: Noam Chimpsky: samer weddings

Samer weddings? Anyone care to translate?


Oh wait, I found it:
http://vimeo.com/user24008303
 
2014-01-27 08:46:34 PM  
Divorce Lawyers.
 
2014-01-27 08:52:28 PM  
Did Indiana not get the memo that the Confederacy was crushed 150 years ago? Because seem awfully intent on joining it.
 
2014-01-27 09:16:40 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Double (or Dual) Income, No Kids


Don't forget the subcategory DINKWAD

/With A Dog
//That didn't sound right
 
2014-01-27 09:42:25 PM  
Who farking gives a shiat anymore?  The way I see it, the straights did a shiatty job upholding the "sanctity" of marriage, the most famous examples being the Gabor sisters, Elizabeth Taylor, or most any other celebrity.

The Catholic church didn't help much, either.  If a Kennedy can buy an annulment, how serious is the institution?

If gays want the pain of a 50% divorce rate and the bullshiat monetary entanglements, more power to 'em.
 
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