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(NewsMax)   The Catholic League reassures us that just because Pope Francis is concerned about income inequality like noted socialists Barack Obama and Bill de Blasio, only Pope Francis is right about it and the other two are totally wrong   (newsmax.com) divider line 131
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2014-01-27 04:58:36 PM

jigger: And did you not read the part where he said if you're rich it's pretty much impossible to go to heaven, plus if you give up everything you have then you will have treasures in heaven?


That's a really mangled paraphrase you got there. He says "Store up for yourselves treasures in heaven." Telling people that riches are vain and giving solace to the poor is not the same as saying it is good to be poor. See my post where the actual words of Jesus condemn those who neglect or scorn the poor.
 
2014-01-27 05:05:09 PM

jigger: In Christianity, is Jesus not god? Jesus created the world, wrote the 10 commandments, and did all the genocide, etc. of the OT.

And did you not read the part where he said if you're rich it's pretty much impossible to go to heaven, plus if you give up everything you have then you will have treasures in heaven?

It's shiat like this that makes me shake my head when people say, "But Jesus' teachings were all great stuff." No, he taught some truly stupid things too.


You don't seem to be well versed in Christian mythology.

No, "Jesus" and "God" are not interchangeable.
No, the Old Testament does not include any of Jesus' teachings.
No, "It's tough to get into heaven if you're rich" is not equivalent to "Oh, and be poor because that's how you get into heaven", which was your original claim.
Also, who said "Jesus' teachings were all great stuff"?

I'll re-post what Jesus actually said about the poor, how you should treat them, and the penalties for failing in that charge, just in case you missed it earlier.

Matthew 25:31-46

"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'
37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'
40"The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'
41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'
 
2014-01-27 05:05:21 PM

jigger: 200 years ago the richest people in the world shiat in a hole in the ground. Today the poorest americans have indoor plumbing and toilet paper. 200 years from now, people like you will be crowing about "the poor" even though they have everything they'll ever need and more.


Jigger, please.
 
2014-01-27 05:13:24 PM

qorkfiend: No, "Jesus" and "God" are not interchangeable.


Jesus is the son of God. (The whole "forgive them father for they do not know what they do" thing on the cross and all.)  The trinity is Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit.  Moses technically wrote the 10 Commandments, though he believed God himself told them to him. Jesus had nothing to do with that.

Nonetheless, I think we can all agree that Jesus' teachings were generally to love the sinners (and oddly, never really seemed to mention homosexuals or people who are pro-choice as sinners), be kind to the poor, do the right thing. That stuff was big to him. I have no idea how that has been overlooked so incredibly much, other than for some people, it's hard to do those things and easier to just hate those that one personally deems a sinner and use something as powerful as religion to justify this hate..

It's twisted, but that's where the whole "because Jesus" thing came from.  They have no real justification, so they interpret their holy book in weird ways to force a justification.  I mean, the things they pick and choose from Leviticus is one of the most bizarre things, considering it in no way says  "these are the super bad ones" and "these are the ones that are kind of okay, if it's too inconvenient for you to say, not eat shellfish or not wear blended fabrics."
 
2014-01-27 05:18:50 PM

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: jigger: 200 years ago the richest people in the world shiat in a hole in the ground. Today the poorest americans have indoor plumbing and toilet paper. 200 years from now, people like you will be crowing about "the poor" even though they have everything they'll ever need and more.

And 800 years ago the richest people in the world controlled empires that spanned continents, had thousands of slaves, multiple wives, and literally held life or death control over their subjects, so I guess the richest people today are pretty poor, relatively.


You know, in all seriousness it makes me wonder if many rich people see the way nobles treated peasants and feel a bit of envy for what the nobles could get away with.
 
2014-01-27 05:19:24 PM

jigger: My point was that even in a hypothetical post-scarcity society there will be morons who won't stop crying about "the poor" despite how not-poor they are


Dude, there won't be any poor in a post-scarcity society, hence no "morons" crying about it. Your strawman is also a shapeshifter.

But it's actually kind of sad how divorced from reality you are in the present day. Poor people have a few mod cons, so that means they're actually rich.

Keep on carrying that water jigger.
 
2014-01-27 05:22:17 PM

serpent_sky: "Obama and de Blasio exemplify Schoeck's concern. Both of them are consumed with tapping into a debased appetite for envy, driving a wedge between the classes. "


I had to stop reading there. The wedge between the classes is a real thing, driven by the fact that the rich are SO incredibly rich, and seem to delight in torturing the poor, going so far as to act as if a minimum wage increase will cripple companies with record profits... and CEOs that make hundreds of thousands, if not millions.


Let me get this straight -- Obama and De Blasio, both of who are independently wealthy and among the 1%, are driven by envy, while New Pope is driven by justice alone?

wat
 
2014-01-27 05:23:37 PM
With friends like this, who needs enemas.
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2014-01-27 05:24:56 PM

serpent_sky: "Obama and de Blasio exemplify Schoeck's concern. Both of them are consumed with tapping into a debased appetite for envy, driving a wedge between the classes. "


I had to stop reading there. The wedge between the classes is a real thing, driven by the fact that the rich are SO incredibly rich, and seem to delight in torturing the poor, going so far as to act as if a minimum wage increase will cripple companies with record profits... and CEOs that make hundreds of thousands, if not millions.



The envy assertion is always a blatant projection. People that look up to wealth want wealth themselves, so they project that belief onto everyone that complains about wealth inequality.

Most people just want a reasonable work life so they have time off to spend with their friends and families, and to pay their farking bills sans the panic.
 
2014-01-27 05:27:33 PM

ThePastafarian: You know, in all seriousness it makes me wonder if many rich people see the way nobles treated peasants and feel a bit of envy for what the nobles could get away with.


I'd say they get raging, persistent boners that they should seek medical attention for if they think about how the nobles treated the peasants.  They would do anything to have that kind of power - and if you look, a lot of them are trying, down to the asshole in IL running for office based on lowering the minimum wage. In the name of "competitiveness." Because nobody does business in IL, I suppose, with the great burden of having to pay people no less than $8.25 per hour.
 
2014-01-27 05:27:37 PM
MayoSlather:

The envy assertion is always a blatant projection. People that look up to wealth want wealth themselves, so they project that belief onto everyone that complains about wealth inequality.

Central deficit of conservative thinking: Everyone else is as much of a shiatbag as I am.
 
2014-01-27 05:33:34 PM

Dahnkster: With friends like this, who needs enemas.
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Who the hell thinks that is true in the current day? The Inquisition was a long time age.
 
2014-01-27 05:37:02 PM

simplicimus: Dahnkster: With friends like this, who needs enemas.
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Who the hell thinks that is true in the current day? The Inquisition was a long time age.


Yeah - if Catholics couldn't eradicate The People of the Lox back before lox was a thing, there's no way they'll get rid of us now.

// also, religious Jews are, generally and sadly, more than happy to carry the Culture Warriors' water for them
 
2014-01-27 05:48:31 PM

Dr Dreidel: simplicimus: Dahnkster: With friends like this, who needs enemas.
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Who the hell thinks that is true in the current day? The Inquisition was a long time age.

Yeah - if Catholics couldn't eradicate The People of the Lox back before lox was a thing, there's no way they'll get rid of us now.

// also, religious Jews are, generally and sadly, more than happy to carry the Culture Warriors' water for them


http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/pope-francis-breaking-new-groun d- in-jewish-catholic-relations/

"The Pope and Rabbi Skorka made history by sharing meals and praying together during Sukkot and Sabbath at the Vatican - making Pope Francis perhaps the first bishop of Rome to do so, since St. Peter himself."
 
2014-01-27 05:59:20 PM

All2morrowsparTs: DjangoStonereaver: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The Catholic League's farm system is a joke

As is their embrace of the Designated Hitter Hitler

FTFY

/Godwinned I know but damn that was the first thing i saw.


Yoooooou aaaare noooot aloooooone...
 
2014-01-27 06:00:34 PM

simplicimus: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/pope-francis-breaking-new-groun d- in-jewish-catholic-relations/

"The Pope and Rabbi Skorka made history by sharing meals and praying together during Sukkot and Sabbath at the Vatican - making Pope Francis perhaps the first bishop of Rome to do so, since St. Peter himself."


That wasn't to say such a friendship is impossible. Just that the more religious a community is, the more Republicans (or conservatives) one seems to find there.

// and I'm willing to bet it's not hardcore Orthodoxy you'll find in meetings with Pope Frankel
 
2014-01-27 06:01:22 PM
Why can;t you legislate morality?
 
2014-01-27 06:14:34 PM

serpent_sky: I had to stop reading there.


It's Newsmax. You never should have started. Newsmax + The Catholic League = A whirling vortex of derp.
 
2014-01-27 06:45:43 PM

Dr Dreidel: simplicimus: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/pope-francis-breaking-new-groun d- in-jewish-catholic-relations/

"The Pope and Rabbi Skorka made history by sharing meals and praying together during Sukkot and Sabbath at the Vatican - making Pope Francis perhaps the first bishop of Rome to do so, since St. Peter himself."

That wasn't to say such a friendship is impossible. Just that the more religious a community is, the more Republicans (or conservatives) one seems to find there.

// and I'm willing to bet it's not hardcore Orthodoxy you'll find in meetings with Pope Frankel


Well, Catholics aren't really at home in any US political party. There are catholic groups that are extremely conservative, but they get more publicity than they have members.
 
2014-01-27 07:16:17 PM

jigger: ikanreed: jigger: Rapmaster2000: I heard that a lot of these poors have refrigerators.

I guess in the next few centuries people will claim the poor aren't really poor because they have replicators and holodecks. But they're really poor, you see, because they don't have a ships with warp drive.

Keeping food rather than letting it spoil: only for the rich.

If you can afford to do this, how poor are you? It's all relative, which was my point.


It is relative, but relative to the required standard of living. Having a refrigerator is required as a basic need in industrialized countries. In the future maybe having a warp drive on your ship is the minimum requirement to have a job since all the jobs were outsourced to the Andromada system.
 
2014-01-27 07:56:24 PM
"Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed." ~ Herman Melville
 
2014-01-27 08:34:50 PM
I thought that the Catholic League was supportive of low wage earners like waitresses in cocktail bars.
 
2014-01-27 09:16:02 PM

Dahnkster: With friends like this, who needs enemas.
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Wow. He actually did say "Jews had better not make enemies of their Catholic friends since they have so few of them". That's an actual thing he said.

What an evil prick.
 
2014-01-27 09:17:01 PM
One way to "incentivize work" would be to stop taxing earned income at greater rates than unearned income.
 
2014-01-27 10:01:36 PM

Satanic_Hamster: jigger: 200 years ago the richest people in the world shiat in a hole in the ground. Today the poorest americans have indoor plumbing and toilet paper. 200 years from now, people like you will be crowing about "the poor" even though they have everything they'll ever need and more.

Jigger, please.


You have a refrigerator, your argument is invalid.
 
2014-01-27 10:06:57 PM

Infernalist: The old fashioned CC has always supported the 1%.  Rich people donate more, after all.


You should read some of the old papal encyclicals on social justice, starting with Rerum Novarum.
 
2014-01-27 10:21:07 PM

edmo: One way to "incentivize work" would be to stop taxing earned income at greater rates than unearned income.


You ever notice that the people who screech the loudest about how they "earned" their money and the government just wants to take it away and give it to the undeserving poors also tend to be the same people with a inordinate amount of unearned income?
 
2014-01-28 12:01:15 AM
Bill Donohue is a disgusting wretch of a human being. And, he loves defending one of the world's longest running crime syndicates. Because, a guy died for your sins. DFark him and his stupid mythos./he is the Catholic Falwelll//I can't wait until Graham dies///Pat Robertson, too
 
2014-01-28 04:33:43 AM
"But when he speaks about income inequality, he is praised by the likes of President Barack Obama and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio. However, these three men are not speaking from the same page. What is driving Obama and de Blasio is envy; what is driving the Pope is justice."

I do believe this man is typing with one hand.
 
2014-01-28 07:02:26 AM

Fart_Machine: You have a refrigerator, your argument is invalid.


But is it running?
 
2014-01-28 08:49:51 AM

jigger: 200 years ago the richest people in the world shiat in a hole in the ground.


Realy?
www.ladyofthecake.com

in reality, they even had some lackey spend the night in a cabinet with the pot
 
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