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(Orlando Sentinel)   I don't think there are enough Hail Marys in the world to make up for stealing the Pope's blood   (thesent.nl) divider line 66
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2014-01-27 01:33:51 PM  
They're going to clone the Pope!

Pope John Paul II Part II
 
2014-01-27 01:57:42 PM  
Creepy ass religion... why the fark do the need to keep his blood?
 
2014-01-27 01:59:27 PM  
You intended this headline to be a thrown gauntlet for grammar Nazis, didn't you, subby?
 
2014-01-27 02:05:21 PM  
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
 
2014-01-27 02:05:51 PM  
Why is the Pope's blood any more important than yours or mine? I have a real problem with organized religion.


/Not an athiest
 
2014-01-27 02:06:05 PM  
Isn't Maries the plural of Mary? The plural of Hail Mary is definitely Hails Mary.
 
2014-01-27 02:06:08 PM  
so like.. yeah...  worshipping and idolizing someone's blood?  that right there is a paddlin
 
2014-01-27 02:06:26 PM  
On it.

  img2-3.timeinc.net
 
2014-01-27 02:06:50 PM  
REIGN IN BLOOD!
 
2014-01-27 02:07:28 PM  

netizencain: Creepy ass religion... why the fark do the need to keep his blood?


For the next batch of Space Marines chapter, obviously.
 
2014-01-27 02:07:34 PM  
I love that the local law's theory is that a group of Satanists stole it for some sort of ritual.  Meaning either they have a wild imagination or a VERY freaky regular beat
 
2014-01-27 02:08:19 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Why is the Pope's blood any more important than yours or mine? I have a real problem with organized religion.


/Not an athiest


Because vampires.
 
2014-01-27 02:08:28 PM  

kvinesknows: so like.. yeah...  worshipping and idolizing someone's blood?  that right there is a paddlin


Catholics weasel out of that by claiming they're venerating, not worshipping, which is totally different.

Yeah, sure, whatever, and you're also "monotheistic" even though you believe in three gods and absolute PLATOONS of other supernatural beings.
 
2014-01-27 02:09:04 PM  

CygnusDarius: netizencain: Creepy ass religion... why the fark do the need to keep his blood?

For the next batch of Space Marines chapter, obviously.


Sounds like they're running short on Grey Knights
 
2014-01-27 02:09:16 PM  

kvinesknows: Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.


A vial of blood violates no part of that commandment....at least TECHNICALLY
 
2014-01-27 02:09:18 PM  
I think this falls under reasonable exceptions in the usage of an apostrophe before an s. "Hail Marys" looks weird, "Hail Maries" changes the name, so in this case "Hail Mary's" is the most logical choice, unless you were to put it in quotes.

Unfortunately, subby should have said "there are enough" instead of "there's enough" so it fails anyways.
 
2014-01-27 02:09:29 PM  
This is my blood. Come, steal it.
 
2014-01-27 02:10:54 PM  

mbillips: Isn't Maries the plural of Mary? The plural of Hail Mary is definitely Hails Mary.


An Onion Article for every occasion:
William Safire Orders Two Whoppers Junior
 
2014-01-27 02:11:35 PM  
Dozens of police with sniffer dogs scoured the remote area for clues to what the Italian Catholic magazine Famiglia Cristiana called "a sacrilegious theft that was probably commissioned by someone".

Read that as 'consumed". Oh the brain bubbles. What will they let me see next?
 
2014-01-27 02:14:03 PM  

kvinesknows: Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.


You do realize that Catholics don't worship JPII right? Nor do we worship Mary, Joseph, or the multitude of saints that are out there.
 
2014-01-27 02:15:48 PM  
You Catholics and your macabre relics.
 
2014-01-27 02:15:56 PM  
A very common misconception regarding Catholics is that we "worship" saints. We don't. For the following, please suspend whatever disbelief you have. The saints that are canonized can be communicated to for assistance. We don't actually pray to them, but for them to assist us in praying to God. It's a reinforcement of sorts. We bring the prayers to them, they take it to God as extra help. It's the same thing as two people on earth praying together for the same cause. When you send a prayer chain on facebook, etc, you are doing the same thing. You are asking someone else to pray for you. Also, anyone who has passed on to heaven can receive our words and take them to God. The difference between someone who has gone to heaven and a saint is canonization. There is much more to be said but this is the basic idea and I'm in TLDR territory.
 
2014-01-27 02:16:49 PM  
Oddly enough, stealing a relic is not, by itself, a sin. The thinking is that the relic has a spiritual connection to it's progenitor and it would not be possible to steal it without their approval.
 
2014-01-27 02:16:57 PM  
UP for BIDDING! FIVE Stars ONLY! No SCAmmERS

Pope Blood! That;s write we got pope blood. Grow you're own pope with this! Get like gold and silver from churches everywhere! We got other projects, so we got to let this go to the rite peoples.

No RESERVES! NO GAMES! High Bidder must contact me within 24 hours or we'll relist!!!

GOOD LUCK Biiding!
 
2014-01-27 02:18:04 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Why is the Pope's blood any more important than yours or mine? I have a real problem with organized religion.


/Not an athiest


Only the Popes blood can summon Iddris, the Black King of Chills and Whispers.
 
2014-01-27 02:18:43 PM  
Giant scab in a vial. May contain peanuts, holiness, and or wheat. Do not consume. Starting bid $15.
 
2014-01-27 02:18:54 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: CygnusDarius: netizencain: Creepy ass religion... why the fark do the need to keep his blood?

For the next batch of Space Marines chapter, obviously.

Sounds like they're running short on Grey Knights


Well, if it weren't for the Inquisitors we'd get more.
 
2014-01-27 02:21:12 PM  

zumer69: A very common misconception regarding Catholics is that we "worship" saints. We don't. For the following, please suspend whatever disbelief you have. The saints that are canonized can be communicated to for assistance. We don't actually pray to them, but for them to assist us in praying to God. It's a reinforcement of sorts. We bring the prayers to them, they take it to God as extra help. It's the same thing as two people on earth praying together for the same cause. When you send a prayer chain on facebook, etc, you are doing the same thing. You are asking someone else to pray for you. Also, anyone who has passed on to heaven can receive our words and take them to God. The difference between someone who has gone to heaven and a saint is canonization. There is much more to be said but this is the basic idea and I'm in TLDR territory.



This is one of my problems with organized religion. Just as the prests were, I was created in GOD's image. Why do I need a middleman to communicate with HIM?
 
2014-01-27 02:21:58 PM  
They are going to that special hell. Where my parents always said I was going.
 
2014-01-27 02:23:47 PM  

Walker: They're going to clone the Pope!

Pope John Paul II Part II


Full throttle or the return of three finger pete?
 
2014-01-27 02:24:29 PM  
img.fark.net

Seen making a hasty retreat.
 
2014-01-27 02:27:49 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: zumer69: A very common misconception regarding Catholics is that we "worship" saints. We don't. For the following, please suspend whatever disbelief you have. The saints that are canonized can be communicated to for assistance. We don't actually pray to them, but for them to assist us in praying to God. It's a reinforcement of sorts. We bring the prayers to them, they take it to God as extra help. It's the same thing as two people on earth praying together for the same cause. When you send a prayer chain on facebook, etc, you are doing the same thing. You are asking someone else to pray for you. Also, anyone who has passed on to heaven can receive our words and take them to God. The difference between someone who has gone to heaven and a saint is canonization. There is much more to be said but this is the basic idea and I'm in TLDR territory.


This is one of my problems with organized religion. Just as the prests were, I was created in GOD's image. Why do I need a middleman to communicate with HIM?


When you send a prayer chain on facebook, etc, you are doing the same thing. You are asking someone else to pray for you.

I think you missed something.
 
2014-01-27 02:27:56 PM  

digitalrain: kvinesknows: Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

You do realize that Catholics don't worship JPII right? Nor do we worship Mary, Joseph, or the multitude of saints that are out there.


See? I told y'all they have a way of rationalizing their worship as non-worship. If they call it "venerating" and just claim that special dead people have a closer in with God and are just HELPING them worship, then it's not actually worship to call on them in your prayers. This is sophistry of the highest sort, and a major reason why Catholicism became and remains popular. People hate real monotheism; it's bleak and boring. Pantheons are fun.
 
2014-01-27 02:34:45 PM  

Magorn: kvinesknows: Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

A vial of blood violates no part of that commandment....at least TECHNICALLY


when they pray to it? and idolize it?  indeed it does
 
2014-01-27 02:35:55 PM  

digitalrain: kvinesknows: Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

You do realize that Catholics don't worship JPII right? Nor do we worship Mary, Joseph, or the multitude of saints that are out there.


LOL.

you just keep telling yourself that heathen


you dont worship Jesus either right?

yeah.. twist it however you want.  you are going straight to hell.
 
2014-01-27 02:36:19 PM  

zumer69: DROxINxTHExWIND: zumer69: A very common misconception regarding Catholics is that we "worship" saints. We don't. For the following, please suspend whatever disbelief you have. The saints that are canonized can be communicated to for assistance. We don't actually pray to them, but for them to assist us in praying to God. It's a reinforcement of sorts. We bring the prayers to them, they take it to God as extra help. It's the same thing as two people on earth praying together for the same cause. When you send a prayer chain on facebook, etc, you are doing the same thing. You are asking someone else to pray for you. Also, anyone who has passed on to heaven can receive our words and take them to God. The difference between someone who has gone to heaven and a saint is canonization. There is much more to be said but this is the basic idea and I'm in TLDR territory.


This is one of my problems with organized religion. Just as the prests were, I was created in GOD's image. Why do I need a middleman to communicate with HIM?

When you send a prayer chain on facebook, etc, you are doing the same thing. You are asking someone else to pray for you.

I think you missed something.



Are you saying that one preist equals a chain of people when it comes to having your prayers heard by GOD? Why is my silent prayer not enough if it is truly GOD's will that something happens for me? Do you think HE blesses people based on popular vote? I am not trying to over-simplify things but you have to take a look at what you are saying.
 
2014-01-27 02:37:38 PM  

zumer69: I'm in TLDR territory


The Lord of Dem Rings?

yah.. same things.  you can fantasize all you want... attempting to get gods favour by getting a saint... or even a priest for that matter.. to speak up for you?  burn in hell baby
 
2014-01-27 02:38:44 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: zumer69: A very common misconception regarding Catholics is that we "worship" saints. We don't. For the following, please suspend whatever disbelief you have. The saints that are canonized can be communicated to for assistance. We don't actually pray to them, but for them to assist us in praying to God. It's a reinforcement of sorts. We bring the prayers to them, they take it to God as extra help. It's the same thing as two people on earth praying together for the same cause. When you send a prayer chain on facebook, etc, you are doing the same thing. You are asking someone else to pray for you. Also, anyone who has passed on to heaven can receive our words and take them to God. The difference between someone who has gone to heaven and a saint is canonization. There is much more to be said but this is the basic idea and I'm in TLDR territory.


This is one of my problems with organized religion. Just as the prests were, I was created in GOD's image. Why do I need a middleman to communicate with HIM?


You dont only a liar, sinner and tool of Satan would have you believe otherwise.
 
2014-01-27 02:43:09 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: ? Do you think HE blesses people based on popular vote?


well.. FB God works that way.

https://www.facebook.com/TheGoodLordAbove?hc_location=timeline
 
2014-01-27 02:43:24 PM  
Bloody horrible.
 
2014-01-27 02:46:54 PM  
I think its horrible that Benny XVI fast-tracked JPII's canonization to try and distract people from the whole
paedophila scandal.
 
2014-01-27 02:53:54 PM  
kvinesknows:
you dont worship Jesus either right?
yeah.. twist it however you want.  you are going straight to hell.


Look up Trinity.

Atheist but don't like people who purposely misunderstand Catholics. Or in this specific case most Christians as the Trinity is a basic Christian belief.
Oh, and the Old Testament is not Christian law anymore, no matter what some under educated Christians might wish. That's why amongst other thing, Christian do not get circumcised or eat kosher etc...
 
2014-01-27 02:53:55 PM  

zumer69: A very common misconception regarding Catholics is that we "worship" saints. We don't. For the following, please suspend whatever disbelief you have. The saints that are canonized can be communicated to for assistance. We don't actually pray to them, but for them to assist us in praying to God. It's a reinforcement of sorts. We bring the prayers to them, they take it to God as extra help. It's the same thing as two people on earth praying together for the same cause. When you send a prayer chain on facebook, etc, you are doing the same thing. You are asking someone else to pray for you. Also, anyone who has passed on to heaven can receive our words and take them to God. The difference between someone who has gone to heaven and a saint is canonization. There is much more to be said but this is the basic idea and I'm in TLDR territory.


Basically Catholics operate as a polytheistic religion.  "Saints as supernatural agents provide nice proof of religion being man-made. If Catholics are honest with themselves, they'd see all of the saints a minor gods.  You pray to St. Anthony if you lose something and St. Jude if you need something impossible.  St. Clare became the patron saint of television in the 1950-'s due to her particular 'vision'.   Even though the saints do function as minor gods - there is a supernatural power imputed to them - it might be easier to think of them as heavenly lobbyists.  Catholics pray to saints but not to ask them to grant their prayers - only god can do that, they are told.  Catholics are invoking access to god, asking the saints to 'intercede' with god for them.  That distinction, made very clear in Catholicism, cleverly gets around an accusation or appearance of polytheism.  You can have your saints, but still one god."

"The process of designating someone as a saint, a holy person who should serve as positive example, begins with the people who actually knew that person.  The people then present evidence of holiness, usually first to a parish priest.  The evidence for sainthood takes the form of miracles attributed to the saint-in-waiting - which, if you think about it, negates the concept that the prospective saint merely asks god to perform miracles.  The priest passes the information and documentation to a bishop, who sends it up the hierarchical chain to a cardinal and eventually the pope.  Becoming a saint usually requires that at least three medical miracles be attributed to that person, though having died a martyr automatically takes the requirement down to two."

"The sainthood process is a classic example of religion and gods being created by man.  In recent years, there have even been accusations that some popes "rushed" the sainthood process for political expediency.  And, of course, some saints, including the ever-popular St. Christopher, the patron saint of travelers whose images appears on many medals hanging from taxicab review mirrors, has been "de-sainted" by the Vatican, which apparently has the power both to create and negate minor gods."

"This all makes Catholicism essentially the same as Hinduism, which is defined as henotheistic - involving devotion to a single god while accepting the existence of others"
 
2014-01-27 02:55:48 PM  
I'd throw in a couple of Confiteors just to be safe.
 
2014-01-27 03:03:08 PM  
But are there enough Bloody Marys in the world to make up for hailing the Pope's steel?
 
2014-01-27 03:22:13 PM  
"In a sense, a person has been stolen," she said by telephone.


But in a more accurate sense, they haven't.
 
2014-01-27 03:41:57 PM  

talkertopc: kvinesknows:
you dont worship Jesus either right?
yeah.. twist it however you want.  you are going straight to hell.

Look up Trinity.

Atheist but don't like people who purposely misunderstand Catholics. Or in this specific case most Christians as the Trinity is a basic Christian belief.
Oh, and the Old Testament is not Christian law anymore, no matter what some under educated Christians might wish. That's why amongst other thing, Christian do not get circumcised or eat kosher etc...


a basic TWISTED Christian belief


not my fault they twist gods words
 
2014-01-27 03:42:15 PM  
But of course, Pope's blood is the tastiest of them all.
 
2014-01-27 04:00:41 PM  

Walker: They're going to clone the Pope!

Pope John Paul II Part II


6 Million Dollar Pope. Better, Faster, Stronger

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-01-27 04:05:37 PM  
DROxINxTHExWIND: Why is the Pope's blood any more important than yours or mine? I have a real problem with organized religion.

They are going to make him a saint, so it's a first class relic. (from the Maryknoll Catholic dictionary: Relic (L. reliquiae, remains) First class, the corpse of a saint or any part of it. Second class, any object intimately connected with the saint. Third class, anything touched to the body of a saint. Veneration (dulia q.v.) is paid these relics by the Church and the faithful. An excommunication reserved to the ordinary is incurred by anyone who manufactures, knowingly sells or distributes false relics or exposes them for public veneration. It is also forbidden to buy and sell relics. No relic may be publicly honored unless it has proper authentication. Relics are placed in the sepulcher of every altar, and thus the ancient tradition of saying Mass on the tomb of saint is preserved.)

John Paul II was a recent superstar in the Catholic church. He is a money maker for them now that he's dead. When they make him a saint, his clothes and all his household items will become venerable relics. The toenail clippings of John Paul II will be put into altars all over the world in churches named after him. His blood would rate at least a Cathedral in a large city full of Catholics.
 
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