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(Boston Herald)   Boston bicycles will soon be armed with laser beams   (bostonherald.com) divider line 47
    More: PSA, Amir Farjadian, Kelsey Rennebohm, stationary bicycle  
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2014-01-27 12:46:36 PM  
This can only end with sharks.
 
2014-01-27 12:50:04 PM  
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2014-01-27 12:50:45 PM  
Interesting tech for their stationary bicycles.
 
2014-01-27 12:50:57 PM  
"Lasers are used to help cyclists avoid collisions."

Well, I guess that would be easier than, say...actually steering the bike.

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2014-01-27 12:53:49 PM  
Shouldn't Boston bicycles be armed with laser  beans?
 
2014-01-27 12:55:04 PM  
Can't imagine reacting correctly when that loud horn goes off... probably steer right into the path of the oncoming car even better. I mean, if you're about to get hit by a car anyway, why do they want to scare the crap out of me just before I die?
 
2014-01-27 12:57:04 PM  
Got to give them credit for trying, but the primary problem is inattentive, reckless, and speeding car drivers, which this does not do much other than place more responsibility in the bike rider for things that can never be in their control.

Pre-emptive response to the "I saw a cyclist run a red light" : an act of some individuals does not excuse your irresponsible behavior behind the wheel.
 
2014-01-27 12:59:27 PM  
Per the article, 2 cyclists are killed and 130 injured every day.  I would have thought it would have been more than that.  C'mon people, we're need to up our game!
 
2014-01-27 01:00:04 PM  
...and no use of the word "frickin" in the headline.  I guess the world has finally moved on...

\I feel old.
 
2014-01-27 01:00:54 PM  
Here we go....
 
2014-01-27 01:04:56 PM  
Ya know, If you followed the rule of the road like you're supposed too, you wouldn't get killed. Just sayin
 
2014-01-27 01:06:15 PM  
Who wants popcorn.

In these threads all I learn is that all drivers are Mr. Wheeler:

i4.photobucket.com

... And all bicyclists are:

i.imgur.com

I see we've already stared.
 
2014-01-27 01:06:50 PM  
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I picked up this Take A Look cycling mirror last year for road use. It was about $12.99 on Amazon when I got it. I can see everything coming up behind me... Including the service truck that was hugging the curb in an attempt to run me over after I pointed my headlight at them. Stop signs apparently mean "roll through", even if a bike or a car is going to be in your way by the time you try pulling out. That laser system wouldn't do anything to alert me to a truck trying to bulldoze me off the road. The mirror let me see him at a distance with enough time to quickly stop and launch myself on the sidewalk from the bike lane.

Get a mirror. It's much safer and is guaranteed to save your life.
 
2014-01-27 01:08:47 PM  
A friend of mine got hit in a bike lane in Boston last year.  He broke his leg and was in a cast for about 6 weeks.  Settled out of court for about $100,000.  You can keep your lasers.  I'll take my lottery ticket.
 
2014-01-27 01:09:20 PM  

special20: Can't imagine reacting correctly when that loud horn goes off... probably steer right into the path of the oncoming car even better. I mean, if you're about to get hit by a car anyway, why do they want to scare the crap out of me just before I die?


It's funnier if your pants are full of fear shiat when the meat wagon comes to scrape you off of the pavement.
 
2014-01-27 01:09:30 PM  
I heard that if there is a bike lane and a bicyclist is riding outside of it you are allowed to bump their rear tire slightly with your bumper to remind them.  Is that true?
 
2014-01-27 01:10:18 PM  

abhorrent1: Ya know, If you followed the rule of the road like you're supposed too, you wouldn't get killed. Just sayin


I stop at all red lights and at all stop signs. I keep to he the right of the rightmost lane unless preparing to make a left turn. I signal all turns. At night I use multiple lights and reflectors to remain visible.

I have nearly been struck several times by drivers who ignored stop signs or who failed to watch for oncoming traffic when pulling out of a driveway. On one occasion i wad nearly run off of the road by an inattentave motorist who attempted to initiate a sudden right turn while passing me on the left.
 
2014-01-27 01:14:12 PM  

Dimensio: abhorrent1: Ya know, If you followed the rule of the road like you're supposed too, you wouldn't get killed. Just sayin

I stop at all red lights and at all stop signs. I keep to he the right of the rightmost lane unless preparing to make a left turn. I signal all turns. At night I use multiple lights and reflectors to remain visible.

I have nearly been struck several times by drivers who ignored stop signs or who failed to watch for oncoming traffic when pulling out of a driveway. On one occasion i wad nearly run off of the road by an inattentave motorist who attempted to initiate a sudden right turn while passing me on the left.


You need something that grabs their attention. I use a Klarus XT-11 600 lumen flashlight on tactical strobe mode at night. It points directly in front of me at eye level for most cars. If you can't see it, you're blind and I'm probably going to get hit by your car or I'll have to pull some evasive maneuvers to avoid you.
 
2014-01-27 01:14:41 PM  

aircraftkiller: [encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 240x194]

Get a mirror. It's much safer and is guaranteed to save your life.


I got plenty, but I can only see members of The Who in them.
www.billboard.com
/out of my brain
 
2014-01-27 01:15:32 PM  
"Consoles attached to the front and back of the bicycle project lasers onto the road, creating a virtual bike lane that blinks if a car intrudes."

So, you'll know you're about to do die about a fifth second before the car hits you.
 
2014-01-27 01:15:34 PM  
"HORN BLAST"
bike yells "WARNING"
display reads "collision in .01 seconds"
then  "good bye"
 
2014-01-27 01:17:06 PM  
The laser beam bike lanes have been around for a bit and seem like a neat idea.  This one has a light up skull that makes it cooler though,  http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/1782/?srp=6.

The rest of it seems pretty pointless and a distraction.

Bicycles already have turn signals at the end of your arms.  I even put one of these onto my pointer finger so I can turn it on and be seen signaling at night,  http://www.knog.com.au/gear-blinder-lights/blinder-1-skull.phps.

If you are about to hit something having your bike honk for you will just add insult to injury.  Put a bell on the handle bar and and ring it well before you are about to run into someone or start yelling "WATCH IT ASSHOLE."

Roads around here are pretty crappy, so I already have the vibrating handlebar thing down.  If someone is going to run a light or a stop sign it isn't because they didn't notice it.

Improved bike lanes and improved education (for both bikers and motorists) are a better way to deal with this.
 
2014-01-27 01:18:30 PM  

EdgeRunner: Shouldn't Boston bicycles be armed with laser  beans?


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/ I lol'd
 
2014-01-27 01:23:45 PM  
How are the sharks going to pedal the bicycles?
 
2014-01-27 01:36:34 PM  
People who ride bicycles are okay. People who identify as cyclists but live in a metropolitan area are scum.
 
2014-01-27 01:37:43 PM  

StopLurkListen: Pre-emptive response to the "I saw a cyclist run a red light" : an act of some individuals does not excuse your irresponsible behavior behind the wheel.


Maybe the beam of light across an intersection will alert a cop so he's watching when an idiot runs a red light.
 
2014-01-27 02:00:58 PM  

mod3072: special20: Can't imagine reacting correctly when that loud horn goes off... probably steer right into the path of the oncoming car even better. I mean, if you're about to get hit by a car anyway, why do they want to scare the crap out of me just before I die?

It's funnier if your pants are full of fear shiat when the meat wagon comes to scrape you off of the pavement.


I'm okay with this now.
 
2014-01-27 02:02:26 PM  
Got a mirror for my bike's left handlebar. 19 dollars and the best thing I've put in my bike. Makes it safer to ride with traffic.
 
2014-01-27 02:05:36 PM  

Weidbrewer: ...and no use of the word "frickin" in the headline.  I guess the world has finally moved on...

\I feel old.


And your slashy is pointing the wrong way.

/Maybe it's your way of protesting. The
 
2014-01-27 02:30:25 PM  
Is this what they look like? Please say yes.

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2014-01-27 02:31:23 PM  
Or we could just do what every other first world country in the world did and give cyclists their own facilities physically seperate from motor vehicles. The problem is we've got a self-destructive and violently reactionary "vehicular cyclist" culture based off of John Forester's discredited lunacy.

/probably won't though. Would be soshalism.
 
2014-01-27 02:38:05 PM  

aircraftkiller: You need something that grabs their attention. I use a Klarus XT-11 600 lumen flashlight on tactical strobe mode at night. It points directly in front of me at eye level for most cars. If you can't see it, you're blind and I'm probably going to get hit by your car or I'll have to pull some evasive maneuvers to avoid you.


I'm on board with the brightness, but your more likely to be hit by somebody having an epileptic seizure caused by the strobe. I've seen people use a strobe, but always figured it would give me a headache.

I've thrown away four bike lights last summer alone (Cateye, 2 Bontragers, & Planet Bike), so I am very much on board with the Klarus XT-11 plan. Recommend a good bike mount?

In case anyone is curious: The Cateye stopped working out of the blue; one of the Bontragers committed suicide by leaping out of it's mount while I was in the middle of trail bridge across a river and was still shining up from the bottom a half hour later; the other two would blink out regularly if the terrain was not as smooth as glass.
 
2014-01-27 02:40:01 PM  

skinink: Got a mirror for my bike's left handlebar. 19 dollars and the best thing I've put in my bike. Makes it safer to ride with traffic.


Handlebar mirrors are really shiatty due to vibration and being fixed they only point behind the direction the handlebars are pointed - my experiences led me to helmet mirrors. You can turn your head slightly side to side and scan a wide area behind you - a luxury you can't easily do with handlebar mirror.

Also if you switch bikes, transferring handlebar mirrors is a right pain in the ass.

I have tried at least a half dozen, and so far, this one remains my fave:  http://www.safezonemirror.com/gallery/
 
2014-01-27 02:56:33 PM  

Elzar: skinink: Got a mirror for my bike's left handlebar. 19 dollars and the best thing I've put in my bike. Makes it safer to ride with traffic.

Handlebar mirrors are really shiatty due to vibration and being fixed they only point behind the direction the handlebars are pointed - my experiences led me to helmet mirrors. You can turn your head slightly side to side and scan a wide area behind you - a luxury you can't easily do with handlebar mirror.

Also if you switch bikes, transferring handlebar mirrors is a right pain in the ass.

I have tried at least a half dozen, and so far, this one remains my fave:  http://www.safezonemirror.com/gallery/



Maybe I just crash too much and this probably sounds similar to anti seat belt people, but I just really don't like the idea of mirrors on a bicycle or a helmet.  In a crash it is just another thing to be bouncing around and into me.  If they are glass and could break then I'll have shards of glass flying into my face.

If the concern is knowing if cars are behind me, I haven't had any issues hearing them as they approach.  If I am going to be making a left turn and crossing traffic I'll look over my left shoulder which also gives a signal that I'm probably about to do something stupid that cars should be aware of.

I am primarily a cyclist in a metropolitan area, so maybe mirrors help more on roads with faster moving cars.
 
2014-01-27 03:15:03 PM  

ChimpMitten: Maybe I just crash too much and this probably sounds similar to anti seat belt people, but I just really don't like the idea of mirrors on a bicycle or a helmet. In a crash it is just another thing to be bouncing around and into me. If they are glass and could break then I'll have shards of glass flying into my face.


I can see that. I tried the handlebar mirror and just couldn't get used to it; it was just as easy to look over my shoulder as it was to look past my left forarm at a bouncing image.

I also tried the little square mirror above thread and didn't like the mounting. Lots of good reviews on Amazon (and a happy customer up thread), but I ended up spending the dough and getting the Safezone Mirror Elzar linked to. Super easy to adjust, tough, and lots of mounting options. I don't know how I got by without it.

As for the lazers, I like them more for the fact it gives a visible keep-out zone to cars. I'd disable the buzzer and call it good.
 
2014-01-27 03:23:19 PM  
"Ghost bike"... is that anything like a ghost gun?
 
2014-01-27 03:28:03 PM  

SewerSquirrels: aircraftkiller: You need something that grabs their attention. I use a Klarus XT-11 600 lumen flashlight on tactical strobe mode at night. It points directly in front of me at eye level for most cars. If you can't see it, you're blind and I'm probably going to get hit by your car or I'll have to pull some evasive maneuvers to avoid you.

I'm on board with the brightness, but your more likely to be hit by somebody having an epileptic seizure caused by the strobe. I've seen people use a strobe, but always figured it would give me a headache.

I've thrown away four bike lights last summer alone (Cateye, 2 Bontragers, & Planet Bike), so I am very much on board with the Klarus XT-11 plan. Recommend a good bike mount?

In case anyone is curious: The Cateye stopped working out of the blue; one of the Bontragers committed suicide by leaping out of it's mount while I was in the middle of trail bridge across a river and was still shining up from the bottom a half hour later; the other two would blink out regularly if the terrain was not as smooth as glass.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004ZHE7LW/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i 00 ?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That's what I use. It's cheap and works great two years after I bought it. The XT-11 never bumps around on it. Pull it tight and it's rock solid. As far as strobes go, I find that the strobe combined with my Serfas USL-TL60 makes me a gigantic pool of light and nearly impossible to miss at night. It's been much more enjoyable commuting with that kind of protection.
 
2014-01-27 03:51:23 PM  

JonnyBGoode: "Ghost bike"... is that anything like a ghost gun?


It's an old junker bike painted white and chained to a pole where someone riding a bike died.
 
2014-01-27 03:57:15 PM  

ChimpMitten: Elzar: skinink: Got a mirror for my bike's left handlebar. 19 dollars and the best thing I've put in my bike. Makes it safer to ride with traffic.

Handlebar mirrors are really shiatty due to vibration and being fixed they only point behind the direction the handlebars are pointed - my experiences led me to helmet mirrors. You can turn your head slightly side to side and scan a wide area behind you - a luxury you can't easily do with handlebar mirror.

Also if you switch bikes, transferring handlebar mirrors is a right pain in the ass.

I have tried at least a half dozen, and so far, this one remains my fave:  http://www.safezonemirror.com/gallery/


Maybe I just crash too much and this probably sounds similar to anti seat belt people, but I just really don't like the idea of mirrors on a bicycle or a helmet.  In a crash it is just another thing to be bouncing around and into me.  If they are glass and could break then I'll have shards of glass flying into my face.

If the concern is knowing if cars are behind me, I haven't had any issues hearing them as they approach.  If I am going to be making a left turn and crossing traffic I'll look over my left shoulder which also gives a signal that I'm probably about to do something stupid that cars should be aware of.

I am primarily a cyclist in a metropolitan area, so maybe mirrors help more on roads with faster moving cars.


Rode all last summer with the handlebar mirrors, which are all plastic. The roads where I live are not the greatest but the vibration issue wasn't that bad. And I didn't look at the mirror constantly, just during the times where the space was tight and I needed to know if traffic was behind me or if I could safely move with traffic.

And I didn't feel limited by the fixed position of the mirror. Most of the times I looked at the mirror it gave me a good view of what was happening behind me. Frankly I pay so much attention to things in front of me I just need a quick look at my mirror. If I needed to see a little more from my mirror then slightly moving the handlebar was enough.
 
2014-01-27 04:32:25 PM  

skinink: Got a mirror for my bike's left handlebar. 19 dollars and the best thing I've put in my bike. Makes it safer to ride with traffic.


I use a helmet mounted mirror, which requires less focus away from the road to utilize.
 
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2014-01-27 04:53:11 PM  

Dimensio: skinink: Got a mirror for my bike's left handlebar. 19 dollars and the best thing I've put in my bike. Makes it safer to ride with traffic.

I use a helmet mounted mirror, which requires less focus away from the road to utilize.


www.tintoyarcade.com
Cheap, cool looking, functional.
 
2014-01-27 04:57:35 PM  

WelldeadLink: Interesting tech for their stationary bicycles.


Glad I wasn't the only one... I had to read the intro to that article like three times before I wasn't saying to myself, "How the fark do you get hit by a bus riding a stationary bicycle?"
 
2014-01-27 05:40:18 PM  
did anyone notice this sentence?

FTA: "If the cyclist is approaching an intersection without slowing down, Kong said, the bike's handlebars vibrate."

/Time to start riding handlebars again.
 
2014-01-28 12:17:41 AM  
 
2014-01-28 03:10:16 AM  

moike: WelldeadLink: Interesting tech for their stationary bicycles.

Glad I wasn't the only one... I had to read the intro to that article like three times before I wasn't saying to myself, "How the fark do you get hit by a bus riding a stationary bicycle?"


Maybe Drew was driving it.

Bicycles, like motorcycles, guns, chainsaws, acetylene torches and parachutes should be dangerous. And I mean SCARY FARKING DANGEROUS to the point that even a complete idiot is afraid to touch them without learning how to use them properly. Making anything idiot proof just encourages idiots to use it and idiots can show some amazing ingenuity when it comes to screwing up. People get killed playing with "unloaded guns", it takes a real fool to play with one that is "loaded, cocked and Dangerous" and the sooner such individual earns a Darwin Award the better for the gene pool.
 
2014-01-28 12:31:04 PM  
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2014-01-28 09:48:17 PM  
How about, if you can't go the speed limit, you don't get to go on the road? If I were to drive my car at bicycle speeds I'd get a ticket, yet bikes are, but also are not, cars? Fark metro area bicycles. Get a frickin' scooter that can keep up with traffic, morans.
 
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