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(NPR)   If you want to escape the Polar Vortex, there is only one place in the US you can seek refuge from the bitter cold: Alaska   (npr.org) divider line 9
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2014-01-27 11:22:39 AM  
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Of course, if you want to visit Valdez while you're there, you'll need a boat, as the warm weather has triggered avalanches on the Richardson Hwy., and the city will be isolated for at least a week.

/With awesome pic of big avalanche results.

//And flyover video of resulting ice dam
2014-01-27 10:34:38 AM  
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Oh look it's THIS thread again/still.  Let's just assume global warming is for real.  Well, duh.  The earth had been through warming/cooling stages eons before we arrived and it will continue to do so for eons after we're gone.  To think that mankind's, what?  Maybe 150 year-old "Industrial age" could have any significant impact on this planet is ridiculous.  It's the hypocritical left doing the exact same thing they constantly accuse the right of doing.  Fear-mongering.  I'm old enough to remember the 70s.  Back then we were all gonna freeze to death by 2000.  Forty years later we're all gonna burn to death.  And then, as now, we take so-called scientists at their word, even though they can't really predict with any degree of accuracy what the weather will be tomorrow.  I digress.  Back to the original point.  Humans are highly adaptable and pretty-darn smart.  We managed to put men on the moon within a few measly years of getting the first plane off the ground.  So what makes anyone think we won't devise a way of halting climate change in the next 10,000 years should the need arise?
2014-01-27 10:03:32 AM  
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Paleoclimatologists note that the Pacific Northwest was a refuge during past climate change events in which the world warmed. Of course, the geology was quite different in the distant past, but when the Earth warmed, this was one area where the warming was mitigated by the Pacific and thus where many species could survive the heat.

Conversely, it warmed quickly towards the end of the last Ice Age, which may have allowed early humans into North and South America through a coastal or inland corridor of relatively mild weather hospitable to large herds of browsers and sea mammals. (If the path was inland, it would ressemble some of the drier, more snowless areas of Siberia, where ice age herds survive today because the grass is not buried so deeply by snow in the Winter.
2014-01-27 09:48:02 AM  
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Stephen_Falken: Not to burst your bubble subby, but CA is around 60° and holding steady already.


This.  While the vortex keeps pushing colder air down through the central US, the Pacific, Cali, Mexico, etc are all like 10+ degrees warmer, and have been all winter.

My thought is that as soon as the Vortex loses strength and moves back into northern Canada, the US is going to have a heck of a warm spring and summer.
2014-01-27 09:46:39 AM  
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Did Hawaii secede while I was out clearing the driveway?
2014-01-27 09:42:31 AM  
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California ROFLIAO at silly Subby...

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2014-01-27 12:19:29 PM  
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AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: Well, duh. The earth had been through warming/cooling stages eons before we arrived and it will continue to do so for eons after we're gone.


You realize that past climate shifts weren't magical, right? That they happened for actual physical reasons? Volcanism, Milankovich cycles, the formation and break-up of super continents, et cetera?

The Earth didn't just decide to change it's climate the way your mom changes her hairdo.
2014-01-27 12:06:13 PM  
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AllYourFarkAreBelongToMe: Oh look it's THIS thread again/still.  Let's just assume global warming is for real.  Well, duh.  The earth had been through warming/cooling stages eons before we arrived and it will continue to do so for eons after we're gone.  To think that mankind's, what?  Maybe 150 year-old "Industrial age" could have any significant impact on this planet is ridiculous.  It's the hypocritical left doing the exact same thing they constantly accuse the right of doing.  Fear-mongering.  I'm old enough to remember the 70s.  Back then we were all gonna freeze to death by 2000.  Forty years later we're all gonna burn to death.  And then, as now, we take so-called scientists at their word, even though they can't really predict with any degree of accuracy what the weather will be tomorrow.  I digress.  Back to the original point.  Humans are highly adaptable and pretty-darn smart.  We managed to put men on the moon within a few measly years of getting the first plane off the ground.  So what makes anyone think we won't devise a way of halting climate change in the next 10,000 years should the need arise?


The guys who settled Easter Island were pretty adaptable, too. As were the Mayans. But they bred to the point of straining their resources, and in case a) ran out of resources and case b) had a couple years of drought that caused a famine, wars and societal collapse. When we were adapting to stuff prior to 150 years ago? There were fewer than 1 billion of us, and we weren't reliant on petroleum-based industry to eat. We're completely dependent on weather and finite prehistoric resources for food, y'know, from topsoil to aquifer water; we can't just replicate it. All it's gonna take now that we have 7 billion humans is a little climate-based nudge to take us from food surplus to food deficit. Then the whole human population bubble goes pop, taking modern technology down with it.

I'm not saying this is going to happen tomorrow. I'm just saying it's probably going to happen within 100 years. Because it's happened before, over and over, in localized populations that approached the current global resource-to-demand ratio.
2014-01-27 09:46:51 AM  
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PNW here. What polar vortex?


It snowed here for about 15 minutes in December. That was winter, I guess.
 
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