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(CNN)   Old and busted: "Guys? Can I come home now?" New Hotness: "Goodnight humanity"   (edition.cnn.com) divider line 51
    More: Sad, soft landing, lunar exploration, Xinhua News Agency  
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2014-01-27 11:03:00 AM  
Oh man. That shouldn't have affected me so.
 
2014-01-27 11:03:03 AM  
Sad? A mechanical failure is sad? If anything else, it's China, so the only thing sad about it is that the engineers and their families will be killed off due to the shame it has brought to their state.
 
2014-01-27 11:05:18 AM  
Will it start singing "Daisy"?
 
2014-01-27 11:06:13 AM  
Soooo.

... I know NASA has rovers on the moon, too. What's their lifespan been? I know we've kept one alive on mars for *ten years*...
 
2014-01-27 11:07:07 AM  
Sure the Chinese stuff is cheaper, but it isn't always a good value compared to things made in the USA:

mars.nasa.gov
 
2014-01-27 11:08:07 AM  
As expected of something made in China.
 
2014-01-27 11:09:04 AM  

Felgraf: Soooo.

... I know NASA has rovers on the moon, too. What's their lifespan been? I know we've kept one alive on mars for *ten years*...


Actually, no. NASA has never had an robotic rover on the moon. The Russian's did. Their first one lasted nearly 10 months, the second one nearly latest four months. Those are the only two rovers to have landed on the moon before Jade Rabbit.
 
2014-01-27 11:11:20 AM  
I think they did a pretty good job for a first attempt.  Remember, the moon is a stern schoolmistress and her lessons are harsh.  It's not a vacuum environment on the moon, it's all dusty and has a large electrical field, plus the temperature changes are pretty extreme.

Good job on this one China.  Better luck next time.
 
2014-01-27 11:12:12 AM  

Felgraf: Soooo.

... I know NASA has rovers on the moon, too. What's their lifespan been? I know we've kept one alive on mars for *ten years*...


AFAIK, the only NASA rover on the moon is the one that was used by some Apollo astronauts

Mars, on the other hand, well guess who's celebrating their 10th year on the red planet?

Hint:
petapixel.com
 
2014-01-27 11:13:14 AM  

bbfreak: Felgraf: Soooo.

... I know NASA has rovers on the moon, too. What's their lifespan been? I know we've kept one alive on mars for *ten years*...

Actually, no. NASA has never had an robotic rover on the moon. The Russian's did. Their first one lasted nearly 10 months, the second one nearly latest four months. Those are the only two rovers to have landed on the moon before Jade Rabbit.


Huh. My mistake, I thought we'd sent a rover to the moon in conjunction with the satellites, but it appears I am incorrect.
 
2014-01-27 11:13:39 AM  

Felgraf: Soooo.

... I know NASA has rovers on the moon, too. What's their lifespan been? I know we've kept one alive on mars for *ten years*...


We never really did rovers for the Moon. We landed the Surveyors prior to the human landings, but we never really followed up with rovers because we put people on the moon so quickly. The Soviets did do some rovers, though:

en.ria.ru

They were actually really good machines. Some of the design elements like the wheel design helped lead to the designs used in the US Mars rovers, and Lunokhod 2 actually still holds the extraterrestrial surface distance record of 42 km, ahead of the various NASA Mars rovers.
 
2014-01-27 11:15:49 AM  

lousyskater: As expected of something made in China.


it's ok it is still under warranty.
just send it back to the factory.
 
2014-01-27 11:19:06 AM  
When the space aliens find it and interject it with AI and giant kill-lasers, it's gonna be pissed at us for not going back and rescuing it.
 
2014-01-27 11:20:15 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Lunokhod 2 actually still holds the extraterrestrial surface distance record of 42 km, ahead of the various NASA Mars rovers.


Not for long! Or at least I hope Opportunity snatches away the distance record from Lunokhod 2 before long.

Lunokhod 2: 26.22 miles (42.2 km)

Opportunity: 24.07 miles (38.73 km)
 
2014-01-27 11:23:26 AM  
If KSP has tought me anything it is landing on the moon and getting science is fairly easy....  I do not know what China's problem is.
 
2014-01-27 11:27:46 AM  
img30.imageshack.us
 
2014-01-27 11:28:14 AM  

Saiga410: If KSP has tought me anything it is landing on the moon and getting science is fairly easy....  I do not know what China's problem is.


They require additional kethane gas
 
2014-01-27 11:28:47 AM  

yulupr.com

 
2014-01-27 11:37:04 AM  
How can we solve this dilemma with rote tasks? Are there some peasant children who can pitch in? Glaring disapprovingly is not working.
 
2014-01-27 11:39:30 AM  
They should have constructed additional pylons.
 
2014-01-27 11:41:13 AM  
The report, authored by China's state-run Xinhua news, was written in the voice of the rover itself.
"Although I should've gone to bed this morning, my masters discovered something abnormal with my mechanical control system," said the Xinhua report, in the voice of the Jade Rabbit. "My masters are staying up all night working for a solution. I heard their eyes are looking more like my red rabbit eyes."


Damn, the chinese are creepy as fark.


In any case, good to see China failing at doing something on the moon that we are getting bored of doing on Mars.
 
2014-01-27 11:42:50 AM  

Johnson: lousyskater: As expected of something made in China.

it's ok it is still under warranty.
just send it back to the factory.


Not worth the hassle. Just by another one. Its cheaper than paying the return shipping.
 
2014-01-27 11:44:17 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img30.imageshack.us image 256x184]


Everyone knows this isn't how the story ended, right?


On the story topic:  man I am laughing AND tearing up too much.  Hilarious and sad.
 
2014-01-27 11:50:32 AM  

BafflerMeal: The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img30.imageshack.us image 256x184]

Everyone knows this isn't how the story ended, right?


On the story topic:  man I am laughing AND tearing up too much.  Hilarious and sad.


Yeah, and Old Yeller lives happily ever after too.
 
2014-01-27 11:52:05 AM  

the_sidewinder: Felgraf: Soooo.

... I know NASA has rovers on the moon, too. What's their lifespan been? I know we've kept one alive on mars for *ten years*...

AFAIK, the only NASA rover on the moon is the one that was used by some Apollo astronauts

Mars, on the other hand, well guess who's celebrating their 10th year on the red planet?

Hint:
[petapixel.com image 620x504]


Opportunity better not be duckfacing the selfie.

/RIP Spirit
 
2014-01-27 11:57:43 AM  
imgs.xkcd.com


/just in case you weren't depressed enough.
 
2014-01-27 12:04:26 PM  

dennysgod: [imgs.xkcd.com image 639x862]


/just in case you weren't depressed enough.


Fark you
 
2014-01-27 12:07:21 PM  
Coming Soon: The Jade Rabbit Opera!
www.slate.com
 
2014-01-27 12:13:24 PM  
Anthropomorphize much?  This from a country that employs thousands of people to cover up or down-play the  actual suffering of their  actual citizens.  Nice.
 
2014-01-27 12:21:12 PM  

sxacho: Oh man. That shouldn't have affected me so.


When China tries to be officially whimsical, it just comes off as creepy with a side order of totalitarian.

Chinese depictions of a happy Tibet:

The reality:
4unews.com
 
2014-01-27 12:25:30 PM  

bbfreak: Felgraf: Soooo.

... I know NASA has rovers on the moon, too. What's their lifespan been? I know we've kept one alive on mars for *ten years*...

Actually, no. NASA has never had an robotic rover on the moon. The Russian's did. Their first one lasted nearly 10 months, the second one nearly latest four months. Those are the only two rovers to have landed on the moon before Jade Rabbit.


I am kind of surprised we haven't though... we got that shiat pretty well worked out that could probably send one up there now and have it start building shiat for us.
 
2014-01-27 12:42:21 PM  

dennysgod: [imgs.xkcd.com image 639x862]


/just in case you weren't depressed enough.


I prefer the sequel:

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-27 12:45:27 PM  
Hey man, sending things to space is really difficult. I'll avoid flinging poop at anybody going through a bunch of trouble to do some science.
 
2014-01-27 12:49:34 PM  
Anyone else read the robot's message in C3PO's voice?
 
2014-01-27 12:52:04 PM  
There's something wrong/Your circuit's dead
Can you hear me Major Tom?
 
2014-01-27 12:52:30 PM  

Valiente: sxacho: Oh man. That shouldn't have affected me so.

When China tries to be officially whimsical, it just comes off as creepy with a side order of totalitarian.

Chinese depictions of a happy Tibet:

The reality:


This. That article was all kinds of creepy.
 
2014-01-27 12:55:13 PM  

lousyskater: As expected of something made in China.


Which we used to say about things bearing the "made in Japan" label, with casual dismissiveness until we woke up in the mid 80's to discover they made MUCH better Cars and electronics than we did
 
2014-01-27 12:58:27 PM  

bbfreak: Felgraf: Soooo.

... I know NASA has rovers on the moon, too. What's their lifespan been? I know we've kept one alive on mars for *ten years*...

Actually, no. NASA has never had an robotic rover on the moon. The Russian's did. Their first one lasted nearly 10 months, the second one nearly latest four months. Those are the only two rovers to have landed on the moon before Jade Rabbit.


one that was more than a crater you mean.
 
2014-01-27 12:58:36 PM  

Kyosuke: Anyone else read the robot's message in C3PO's voice?


img.fark.net

Just you.
 
2014-01-27 01:03:21 PM  
How the hell do the Chinese have a single two syllable word for "Jade Rabbit?"
 
2014-01-27 01:03:52 PM  
China quality.
 
2014-01-27 01:05:02 PM  

KellyX: bbfreak: Felgraf: Soooo.

... I know NASA has rovers on the moon, too. What's their lifespan been? I know we've kept one alive on mars for *ten years*...

Actually, no. NASA has never had an robotic rover on the moon. The Russian's did. Their first one lasted nearly 10 months, the second one nearly latest four months. Those are the only two rovers to have landed on the moon before Jade Rabbit.

I am kind of surprised we haven't though... we got that shiat pretty well worked out that could probably send one up there now and have it start building shiat for us.


Mostly we haven't because there is little scientific reason to do a lunar lander/rover. Especially after the great success of the Apollo program. Not that there isn't anything still to learn, but in general there isn't anything really groundbreaking that we could learn about the moon using landers/rovers.

Then there are the engineering challenges of such a mission. The moon doesn't have an atmosphere, Mars does. Which means Mars has a more consistent environment while the moon's varies wildly. Then you have your moon soil, which is an engineering challenge all its own.

So yeah, it'd be a great engineering achievement. Not a great scientific achievement, because again we've already covered most everything about the moon's surface that is worth finding out.

Finally the political will just hasn't been there until recently to go back. The cancelled Constellation Program may have been a boondongle, but without it there would be no LRO, GRAIL, LCROSS, and most recently LADEE. These missions were suppose to scout the way ahead.

That being said, the US is probably going back to the moon's surface fairly soon. Just not primarily funded by the US government. It'll instead be a private company probably. Moon Express last I checked is the most likely to make it to the moon before the Google X Prize end date. It'll be interesting to see if Moon Express beats Chang'e 4 to the moon (Yes, the Chinese have a backup of the Chang'e 3 mission for 2015-16).
 
2014-01-27 02:23:09 PM  

Magorn: lousyskater: As expected of something made in China.

Which we used to say about things bearing the "made in Japan" label, with casual dismissiveness until we woke up in the mid 80's to discover they made MUCH better Cars and electronics than we did


China aint Japan.
 
2014-01-27 03:31:15 PM  
Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do
I'm half crazy all for the love of you
It won't be a stylish marriage
I can't afford a carriage
But you'll look sweet upon the seat
of a bicycle built for two.
 
2014-01-27 03:32:40 PM  

Iszael: Remember, the moon is a stern schoolmistress and her lessons are harsh.


I'm not sure what a stern schoolmistress looks like.  Would you happen to have a visual representation to clarify this analogy?
 
2014-01-27 03:46:33 PM  
If there's a full English translation available of the Xinhua article anywhere, a link would be nice.

/Water in my eyes, catch in my throat. Must be moon dust.
 
2014-01-27 04:27:10 PM  
The US should go back to the moon if for nothing else than to bring this thing back....
 
2014-01-27 04:47:06 PM  

bbfreak: That being said, the US is probably going back to the moon's surface fairly soon. Just not primarily funded by the US government. It'll instead be a private company probably. Moon Express last I checked is the most likely to make it to the moon before the Google X Prize end date. It'll be interesting to see if Moon Express beats Chang'e 4 to the moon (Yes, the Chinese have a backup of the Chang'e 3 mission for 2015-16).


Somebody will go back to the moon, if we find a use for it. Most likely to mine the sucker for Helium-3, if fusion energy actually works out.
 
2014-01-27 05:21:38 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: bbfreak: That being said, the US is probably going back to the moon's surface fairly soon. Just not primarily funded by the US government. It'll instead be a private company probably. Moon Express last I checked is the most likely to make it to the moon before the Google X Prize end date. It'll be interesting to see if Moon Express beats Chang'e 4 to the moon (Yes, the Chinese have a backup of the Chang'e 3 mission for 2015-16).

Somebody will go back to the moon, if we find a use for it. Most likely to mine the sucker for Helium-3, if fusion energy actually works out.


Yup. Moon Express wants to make a profit eventually. Also, there is this bit of news today.

(Reuters) - Under a new program called Lunar Catalyst, U.S. space agency NASA will provide free technical expertise, equipment, facilities and software to help selected companies develop lunar landers, officials said on Monday.
"The intent of this initiative is to stimulate and help commercialization," Jason Crusan, who oversees NASA's advanced exploration programs, said during a conference call with prospective bidders on Monday.
Development of commercial lunar landers would join a growing list of space transportation services that have attracted interest from U.S. companies, including Boeing Co and Alliant Techsystems Inc.

 
2014-01-27 06:41:10 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: bbfreak: That being said, the US is probably going back to the moon's surface fairly soon. Just not primarily funded by the US government. It'll instead be a private company probably. Moon Express last I checked is the most likely to make it to the moon before the Google X Prize end date. It'll be interesting to see if Moon Express beats Chang'e 4 to the moon (Yes, the Chinese have a backup of the Chang'e 3 mission for 2015-16).

Somebody will go back to the moon, if we find a use for it. Most likely to mine the sucker for Helium-3, if fusion energy actually works out.


You know who else...

iscfc.files.wordpress.com
 
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