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(Slate)   Thousands of creationist schools take taxpayer money   (slate.com) divider line 221
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2014-01-27 10:52:35 AM
thousand creationist dressing, a thousand creationists in every bottle!
 
2014-01-27 10:55:18 AM
I don't have a problem with religion being discussed in schools in a proper context.  One of my favorite non-major related courses in college was an objective study of the 5 biggest religions in the world, very fascinating and quite important to understanding the geopolitical situation.  But please do not try to pass off creation mythology as science.
 
2014-01-27 11:04:08 AM
Louisiana: The Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008 allows teachers to use "supplemental textbooks and other instructional materials to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner," specifically theories regarding "evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning"-in effect, allowing creationist material inside classroom.

So helping students "understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner" is now defined as "creationism."
 
2014-01-27 11:05:07 AM

Headso: thousand creationist dressing


"It shall beget you some righteous salad"
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-01-27 11:08:11 AM

SkinnyHead: Louisiana: The Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008 allows teachers to use "supplemental textbooks and other instructional materials to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner," specifically theories regarding "evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning"-in effect, allowing creationist material inside classroom.

So helping students "understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner" is now defined as "creationism."


Yes, according to people who try to misrepresent creationism as "helping" students to "understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner".
 
2014-01-27 11:08:56 AM

flucto: Headso: thousand creationist dressing

"It shall beget you some righteous salad"


And lo did the lamb say unto me, "Thou shalt mix thine greens according to the custom of my people. And thine mind shalt be blown by the creamy rich flavor."
 
2014-01-27 11:11:57 AM

unlikely: And lo did the lamb say unto me, "Thou shalt mix thine greens according to the custom of my people. And thine mind shalt be blown by the creamy rich flavor."


"...and thou shalt not have any Green Goddess before me"
 
2014-01-27 11:22:30 AM

flucto: unlikely: And lo did the lamb say unto me, "Thou shalt mix thine greens according to the custom of my people. And thine mind shalt be blown by the creamy rich flavor."

"...and thou shalt not have any Green Goddess before me"


Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's.
 
2014-01-27 11:29:37 AM

SkinnyHead: So helping students "understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner" is now defined as "creationism."


When sufficiently depraved values of "objective" are used, examples may fit within the scope of the definition.
 
2014-01-27 11:29:58 AM
 
2014-01-27 11:39:27 AM

abb3w: SkinnyHead: So helping students "understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner" is now defined as "creationism."

When sufficiently depraved values of "objective" are used, examples may fit within the scope of the definition.


Yep, it's hard to argue with someone whose only argument is "it's true because I believe it's true."
 
2014-01-27 11:54:42 AM
Ah hell.  Just erect a large fence around the perimeter of Tennessee and set fire to the whole state.
 
2014-01-27 12:04:14 PM

show me: Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's.


"...and tossest thou only thine salad and watchest thou wherest go thine cob"
 
2014-01-27 12:31:46 PM

show me: abb3w: SkinnyHead: So helping students "understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner" is now defined as "creationism."

When sufficiently depraved values of "objective" are used, examples may fit within the scope of the definition.

Yep, it's hard to argue with someone whose only argument is "it's true because I believe it's true."


Why do you think it's called totalogy? Because they're totally right.
 
2014-01-27 12:37:25 PM
*Looks at map*

Suddenly everything is so much clearer.
 
2014-01-27 12:40:40 PM

jwa007: Ah hell. Just erect a large fence around the perimeter of Tennessee and set fire to the whole state.


Playing devil's advocate, I don't think the presentation of information on the map accurately portrays the status in Tennessee and Louisiana -- it seems like most of those dots involve school districts where the law gives cover for including creationist materials in the classroom, but not necessarily actual sightings of it. That's rather like saying that there are 4.3 million recreational drug users in Colorado.
 
2014-01-27 12:41:50 PM

PainInTheASP: *Looks at map*

Suddenly everything is so much clearer.


My mind is clearer now. At last all too well I can see where we all soon will be. If you strip away the myth from the man you will see where we all soon will be.
 
2014-01-27 12:42:39 PM
I'd like to see the numbers on how many kids graduating from fundy schools go on to a career in the hard sciences.
 
2014-01-27 12:44:13 PM

flucto: unlikely: And lo did the lamb say unto me, "Thou shalt mix thine greens according to the custom of my people. And thine mind shalt be blown by the creamy rich flavor."

"...and thou shalt not have any Green Goddess before me"


"For lo, I shall lead you into the hidden valley wherein you shall buildest me a ranch."
 
2014-01-27 12:45:30 PM
Map fails.

No law allows creationist instruction.  It is illegal and unconstitutional.  The fundies are using weasel wording in the law to wedge it into the public school curriculum.
 
2014-01-27 12:47:41 PM

toraque: flucto: unlikely: And lo did the lamb say unto me, "Thou shalt mix thine greens according to the custom of my people. And thine mind shalt be blown by the creamy rich flavor."

"...and thou shalt not have any Green Goddess before me"

"For lo, I shall lead you into the hidden valley wherein you shall buildest me a ranch."


"But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out oil and vinegar."
 
2014-01-27 12:48:13 PM

toraque: flucto: unlikely: And lo did the lamb say unto me, "Thou shalt mix thine greens according to the custom of my people. And thine mind shalt be blown by the creamy rich flavor."

"...and thou shalt not have any Green Goddess before me"

"For lo, I shall lead you into the hidden valley wherein you shall buildest me a ranch."


"Baby corn shall not lay with baby corn as it does with mixed greens, for it is an abomination unto the Palette."
 
2014-01-27 12:50:40 PM

Testiclaw: toraque: flucto: unlikely: And lo did the lamb say unto me, "Thou shalt mix thine greens according to the custom of my people. And thine mind shalt be blown by the creamy rich flavor."

"...and thou shalt not have any Green Goddess before me"

"For lo, I shall lead you into the hidden valley wherein you shall buildest me a ranch."

"Baby corn shall not lay with baby corn as it does with mixed greens, for it is an abomination unto the Palette."


An artichoke heart also will I give you, and a new salad will I put before you: and I will take away the heart out of your palm, and I will give you a heart of palm.
 
2014-01-27 12:51:32 PM

DarwiOdrade: Testiclaw: toraque: flucto: unlikely: And lo did the lamb say unto me, "Thou shalt mix thine greens according to the custom of my people. And thine mind shalt be blown by the creamy rich flavor."

"...and thou shalt not have any Green Goddess before me"

"For lo, I shall lead you into the hidden valley wherein you shall buildest me a ranch."

"Baby corn shall not lay with baby corn as it does with mixed greens, for it is an abomination unto the Palette."

An artichoke heart also will I give you, and a new salad will I put before you: and I will take away the heart out of your palm, and I will give you a heart of palm.


That was smooth.
 
2014-01-27 12:52:13 PM
They also need comparable curriculum discussing the Flat Earth Theory.
 
2014-01-27 12:52:18 PM

vpb: SkinnyHead: Louisiana: The Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008 allows teachers to use "supplemental textbooks and other instructional materials to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner," specifically theories regarding "evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning"-in effect, allowing creationist material inside classroom.

So helping students "understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner" is now defined as "creationism."

Yes, according to people who try to misrepresent creationism as "helping" students to "understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner".


Especially since some of the specific books used in some Louisiana charter schools say that not only is the Loch Ness Monster real, but that its very existence disproves evolution.
 
2014-01-27 12:52:19 PM
Christians aren't very trustworthy people.
 
2014-01-27 12:54:58 PM

jwa007: Ah hell.  Just erect a large fence around the perimeter of Tennessee and set fire to the whole state.


for science!
 
2014-01-27 12:59:24 PM

meat0918: Map fails.

No law allows creationist instruction.  It is illegal and unconstitutional.  The fundies are using weasel wording in the law to wedge it into the public school curriculum.


GOP position on science:  "Our fairy tales are just as valid science as your....science?"
 
2014-01-27 01:00:13 PM

DarwiOdrade: Testiclaw: toraque: flucto: unlikely: And lo did the lamb say unto me, "Thou shalt mix thine greens according to the custom of my people. And thine mind shalt be blown by the creamy rich flavor."

"...and thou shalt not have any Green Goddess before me"

"For lo, I shall lead you into the hidden valley wherein you shall buildest me a ranch."

"Baby corn shall not lay with baby corn as it does with mixed greens, for it is an abomination unto the Palette."

An artichoke heart also will I give you, and a new salad will I put before you: and I will take away the heart out of your palm, and I will give you a heart of palm.


I'm loving this. You people are brilliant. :)
 
2014-01-27 01:01:16 PM

unlikely: And lo did the lamb say unto me, "Thou shalt mix thine greens according to the custom of my people. And thine mind shalt be blown by the creamy rich flavor."


Just don't mix your grains or fibers, or God will smite you down from the highest peak.
 
2014-01-27 01:02:15 PM

jwa007: Ah hell.  Just erect a large fence around the perimeter of Tennessee and set fire to the whole state.


-=-
We must save the trees. Couldn't we just set some sort of trap? I mean, we know where they are at on Sundays.
 
2014-01-27 01:03:16 PM

Stoker: jwa007: Ah hell.  Just erect a large fence around the perimeter of Tennessee and set fire to the whole state.

-=-
We must save the trees. Couldn't we just set some sort of trap? I mean, we know where they are at on Sundays.


Country Buffet?
 
2014-01-27 01:04:05 PM
These kids are going to get crushed if/when they attempt higher learning.

The lulz will be epic.
 
2014-01-27 01:04:59 PM
So just like it's always been, but cheaper.

The only way to fix this is clearly to go back to teaching creationism in regular public schools, and not to have proper educational standards.
 
2014-01-27 01:07:14 PM
And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, "Come and see". And I beheld, and lo a black bowl; and he that sat near it had a pair of salad tongs in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of mesclun for a penny, and three measures of spinach for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the vinegar.
 
2014-01-27 01:07:22 PM

Free Radical: These kids are going to get crushed if/when they attempt higher learning.

The lulz will be epic.


species have the ability to adapt.  i'm sure they will be taught that.
 
2014-01-27 01:08:48 PM

Free Radical: These kids are going to get crushed if/when they attempt higher learning.

The lulz will be epic.


I recall someone on Fark years ago complaining that their kid who wanted to be a biologist was being "forced" to go along with evolution.

I always wondered whether the kid was as dumb as the parent, or was embarrassed as hell by their ass backwards family.
 
2014-01-27 01:08:49 PM

SkinnyHead: Louisiana: The Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008 allows teachers to use "supplemental textbooks and other instructional materials to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner," specifically theories regarding "evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning"-in effect, allowing creationist material inside classroom.

So helping students "understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner" is now defined as "creationism."


Oh, shiat! Someone get the popcorn!

We have reached Derpcon 1!
 
2014-01-27 01:09:55 PM
Such Thousand. Much creationism. Many Darwin. Wow.

/got nothin'
 
2014-01-27 01:10:23 PM
Here's the thing I don't understand about teach-the-controversy creationists.

They say that the fact that (according to them) no one has ever experimentally observed evolution and the fact that the fossil record does not contain an unbroken line of begats from the first cell to themselves to be definitive proof that the theory of evolution is wrong.

And yet, their own holy book is quite clear that no human being observed the creation of the universe or even a single species. And their own theory has blank spaces because they don't know the exact identity of the designer.

But somehow, the 'problems' in the theory of evolution which prove it false and the very virtues that prove intelligent design to be true.
 
2014-01-27 01:11:08 PM

Free Radical: These kids are going to get crushed if/when they attempt higher learning.

The lulz will be epic.


If they move on to college, the majority either go to approved Christian Universities where it gets reinforced or pick a regular university and a career path that doesn't really require that knowledge to be challenged but also get their faith reinforced with groups like Campus Crusade for Christ.  Then the grads, the new teachers, lawyers, doctors, and business grads fan out into the world.
 
2014-01-27 01:11:31 PM

Free Radical: These kids are going to get crushed if/when they attempt higher learning.

The lulz will be epic.


Nope...just go get a non-science degree at a religious college.  Their "science" classes can spoonfeed you all the derp you need to pass along to your kids.

A friend of mine went to one such school, got a business degree, and he believes in the literal translation of The Bible and does not believe evolution is real.
 
2014-01-27 01:12:49 PM
humanistsforlabour.typepad.com

/oblig
 
2014-01-27 01:13:22 PM

SkinnyHead: Louisiana: The Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008 allows teachers to use "supplemental textbooks and other instructional materials to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner," specifically theories regarding "evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning"-in effect, allowing creationist material inside classroom.

So helping students "understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner" is now defined as "creationism."


MAXIMUM POTATO!

//those textbooks allow the students to be presented with ideas tantamount to dogsh*t
 
2014-01-27 01:13:42 PM

Fart_Machine: /oblig


*snert* I lolled.
 
2014-01-27 01:14:28 PM
In the interest of fairness.. I think charity donations to churches should be shared with other religious groups. Because alternatives
 
2014-01-27 01:14:34 PM

nekom: I don't have a problem with religion being discussed in schools in a proper context.  One of my favorite non-major related courses in college was an objective study of the 5 biggest religions in the world, very fascinating and quite important to understanding the geopolitical situation.  But please do not try to pass off creation mythology as science.


But in public school you really can't have intelligent discussions like you're talking about.  As soon as you present Christianity™ as anything other than the absolute word of g*d or present any religion (especially Islam *hiss*) on equal footing, fat middle-aged mom's will be in the Principal's office shouting for your head on a platter.
 
2014-01-27 01:17:02 PM
I find this map hard to believe.  Why are there no schools listed in Kentucky when Kentucky permits the teaching of creationism?
 
2014-01-27 01:19:29 PM

theorellior: unlikely: And lo did the lamb say unto me, "Thou shalt mix thine greens according to the custom of my people. And thine mind shalt be blown by the creamy rich flavor."

Just don't mix your grains or fibers, or God will smite you down from the highest peak.


Then he called the bridegroom aside  10and said, "Everyone brings out the choice red wine vinaigrette first and then the cheaper red wine vinaigrette after the guests have had too much; but you have saved the best till now.
 
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