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(EuroNews)   Not content with killing off his pimp of an uncle, Kim Jong-Un kills off the rest of his family too   (euronews.com) divider line 160
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2014-01-27 11:00:40 AM
This is what happens when you raise someone to believe that he is literally a living God.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-01-27 11:08:58 AM
Isn't it supposed to be everyone in the family for five generations?
 
2014-01-27 11:13:45 AM
Good. He should kill everyone even remotely related to his uncle.
 
2014-01-27 11:28:52 AM
Unfortunately, Kim Jong-Un probably isn't going to commit suicide.
 
2014-01-27 11:55:17 AM
Kim Jong-un commented on his uncle's death saying that the ruling party was stronger after being purged of "factional filth".

"Factional filth" is going to be my alt name. I can't play an instrument.

/But seriously, it's just not that funny. Somebody help me out here.
 
2014-01-27 11:57:13 AM
That family reunion just keeps getting smaller and smaller.
 
2014-01-27 12:04:14 PM

show me: Good. He should kill everyone even remotely related to his uncle.


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This one is smart.  Put him on the list too.
 
2014-01-27 12:14:03 PM
It's going to be a pretty small crowd at Thanksgiving.
 
2014-01-27 12:16:00 PM
There can be only Un.
 
2014-01-27 12:18:37 PM
That's a good little despot, doing your despotty things. And, hey! Killing is fun! Whodathunkit?

/ nice country you have there
 
2014-01-27 12:19:35 PM
photos.wikimapia.org
 
2014-01-27 12:19:38 PM
Misread article headline as:

"Kim Jong un-executes uncle"

Wondered how you go about unexecuting someone.
 
2014-01-27 12:19:53 PM
With dogs?
 
2014-01-27 12:20:12 PM
I think the reason that we are so offended by this is that the equivalent act here in the U.S. would be killing off some Congressmen or CEOs along with their families and we know that only the poor grunts who we ship overseas are supposed to die. Which is why we only get national brouhaha when the school shootings happen at schools afflicted with affluenza.


/class war is the most fun war
 
2014-01-27 12:20:17 PM
Approves:

spc.fotolog.com
 
2014-01-27 12:20:26 PM

www.tvworthwatching.com


They weren't being very nice.

 
2014-01-27 12:22:43 PM
anongallery.org
 
2014-01-27 12:22:44 PM
www.americanthinker.comstatic2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-01-27 12:22:46 PM

InterruptingQuirk: I think the reason that we are so offended by this is that the equivalent act here in the U.S. would be killing off some Congressmen or CEOs along with their families and we know that only the poor grunts who we ship overseas are supposed to die. Which is why we only get national brouhaha when the school shootings happen at schools afflicted with affluenza.


/class war is the most fun war


As for the rutabagas and dental floss, they'll save up airfare if they're in bed before 8:00 but not too hot.
 
2014-01-27 12:22:58 PM
Maybe.  The article notes that the source has been wrong in the past.
 
2014-01-27 12:23:10 PM

CleanAndPure: Misread article headline as:

"Kim Jong un-executes uncle"

Wondered how you go about unexecuting someone.


Combination of taxidermy and animatronics.
 
2014-01-27 12:24:03 PM
In the days following Thaek's execution there were rumors that his body had been fed to a pack of 120 dogs, although this story is now believed to have originated from a satirical post on a Chinese social network.

They have satire in China?

I heard they had him stand in the middle of a bombing range.  Vaporized.
 
2014-01-27 12:24:27 PM

show me: Good. He should kill everyone even remotely related to his uncle.


I know what you're going for, but he's not blood related to his uncle.
 
2014-01-27 12:24:41 PM

InterruptingQuirk: I think the reason that we are so offended by this is that the equivalent act here in the U.S. would be killing off some Congressmen or CEOs along with their families and we know that only the poor grunts who we ship overseas are supposed to die. Which is why we only get national brouhaha when the school shootings happen at schools afflicted with affluenza.


/class war is the most fun war


Your a moron.
You do know that most of those "poor grunts" turn out to be very successful people and some even ceo's or congresspersons.
 
2014-01-27 12:24:45 PM

tommyl66: InterruptingQuirk: I think the reason that we are so offended by this is that the equivalent act here in the U.S. would be killing off some Congressmen or CEOs along with their families and we know that only the poor grunts who we ship overseas are supposed to die. Which is why we only get national brouhaha when the school shootings happen at schools afflicted with affluenza.


/class war is the most fun war

As for the rutabagas and dental floss, they'll save up airfare if they're in bed before 8:00 but not too hot.


This is really high-quality nonsense.  Refreshing.
 
2014-01-27 12:25:32 PM

show me: Good. He should kill everyone even remotely related to his uncle.


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*Shudders*
 
2014-01-27 12:25:34 PM
FTA: "Among those allegedly executed from Thaek's family are his brother-in-law and the country's ambassador to Cuba Jon Yong-jin and Thaek's nephew and ambassador to Malaysia Jang Yong-chol. The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month. "

You know, if I had learned that a high-ranking family member had been executed recently, I might just not go home and disappear permanently. Just sayin'
 
2014-01-27 12:25:47 PM

wichitaleaf: You're a moron.


FTFY, but otherwise you're quite right.
 
2014-01-27 12:26:25 PM

EJ25T: You know, if I had learned that a high-ranking family member had been executed recently, I might just not go home and disappear permanently. Just sayin'


The thought had occurred.  Maybe he was too dumb to live.
 
2014-01-27 12:26:34 PM
FTA: Among those allegedly executed from Thaek's family are his brother-in-law and the country's ambassador to Cuba Jon Yong-jin and Thaek's nephew and ambassador to Malaysia Jang Yong-chol. The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month.

So...if you were related to Thaek and were actually NOT in North Korea, why go back when "recalled" when you pretty much know how the play ends?
 
2014-01-27 12:28:07 PM
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Heck of a spell, hunh?
 
2014-01-27 12:28:30 PM
"The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month."

I think I would have stayed where I was.
 
2014-01-27 12:30:13 PM
The worst human currently on the planet? Probably.
 
2014-01-27 12:30:39 PM

EJ25T: You know, if I had learned that a high-ranking family member had been executed recently, I might just not go home and disappear permanently. Just sayin'


Presumable that would end badly for your own immediate family.
 
2014-01-27 12:32:51 PM

vpb: Isn't it supposed to be everyone in the family for five generations?


Three. Come on, the Norks are THAT unreasonable.  ;-)
 
2014-01-27 12:32:55 PM

Mell of a Hess: In the days following Thaek's execution there were rumors that his body had been fed to a pack of 120 dogs, although this story is now believed to have originated from a satirical post on a Chinese social network.

They have satire in China?

I heard they had him stand in the middle of a bombing range.  Vaporized.


You're getting your executions confused. I think one of the generals was executed by bombing range late last year. They wanted no trace left of him. Hasn't been verified from what I know, but it hasn't been debunked either.
 
2014-01-27 12:33:00 PM

Galloping Galoshes: wichitaleaf: You're a moron.

FTFY, but otherwise you're quite right.


Yours are my kryptonite.
 
2014-01-27 12:33:03 PM
We lob missels into Somalia, but we can't take this guy out real quick?
It would be like the Winkie soldiers in Wiz of Oz after the witch melts.
"All hail USA!"
 
2014-01-27 12:33:19 PM

wichitaleaf: InterruptingQuirk: I think the reason that we are so offended by this is that the equivalent act here in the U.S. would be killing off some Congressmen or CEOs along with their families and we know that only the poor grunts who we ship overseas are supposed to die. Which is why we only get national brouhaha when the school shootings happen at schools afflicted with affluenza.


/class war is the most fun war

Your a moron.
You do know that most of those "poor grunts" turn out to be very successful people and some even ceo's or congresspersons.


You mistake me sir, I am not disparaging those 'poor grunts'. They have to make it back alive to become all that they can be.
 
2014-01-27 12:33:21 PM

EJ25T: FTA: "Among those allegedly executed from Thaek's family are his brother-in-law and the country's ambassador to Cuba Jon Yong-jin and Thaek's nephew and ambassador to Malaysia Jang Yong-chol. The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month. "

You know, if I had learned that a high-ranking family member had been executed recently, I might just not go home and disappear permanently. Just sayin'


That was my thought. They were recalled and they WENT??

Although Un was probably holding their wives and children hostage inside NK. Evil bastard.
 
2014-01-27 12:33:31 PM

generallyso: EJ25T: You know, if I had learned that a high-ranking family member had been executed recently, I might just not go home and disappear permanently. Just sayin'

Presumable that would end badly for your own immediate family.


Apparently it did either way.
At this point I'd be expecting defections among the foreign service staff still abroad.
 
2014-01-27 12:34:09 PM

wichitaleaf: Galloping Galoshes: wichitaleaf: You're a moron.

FTFY, but otherwise you're quite right.

Yours are my kryptonite.



Sorry, couldn't resist.
 
2014-01-27 12:34:18 PM

Nick Nostril: That's a good little despot, doing your despotty things. And, hey! Killing is fun! Whodathunkit?

/ nice country you have there


Probably not going to happen...but I wonder when this reaches a breaking point and someone decides to kill him and anyone aligned with him?
 
2014-01-27 12:34:59 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: There can be only Un.


Heh.
 
2014-01-27 12:35:58 PM

Rwa2play: Nick Nostril: That's a good little despot, doing your despotty things. And, hey! Killing is fun! Whodathunkit?

/ nice country you have there

Probably not going to happen...but I wonder when this reaches a breaking point and someone decides to kill him and anyone aligned with him?


He did set the precedent...
 
2014-01-27 12:36:28 PM

Lando Lincoln: It's going to be a pretty small crowd at Thanksgiving.



That just means more turkey for him!

And not those puny capitalist birds, either, but massive 5-kilogram behemoths!
 
2014-01-27 12:37:08 PM

namegoeshere: EJ25T: FTA: "Among those allegedly executed from Thaek's family are his brother-in-law and the country's ambassador to Cuba Jon Yong-jin and Thaek's nephew and ambassador to Malaysia Jang Yong-chol. The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month. "

You know, if I had learned that a high-ranking family member had been executed recently, I might just not go home and disappear permanently. Just sayin'

That was my thought. They were recalled and they WENT??

Although Un was probably holding their wives and children hostage inside NK. Evil bastard.


Good point, but they're probably doomed anyway.
 
2014-01-27 12:37:16 PM

JohnCarter: FTA: Among those allegedly executed from Thaek's family are his brother-in-law and the country's ambassador to Cuba Jon Yong-jin and Thaek's nephew and ambassador to Malaysia Jang Yong-chol. The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month.

So...if you were related to Thaek and were actually NOT in North Korea, why go back when "recalled" when you pretty much know how the play ends?


Do they have internet in Cuba?
 
2014-01-27 12:37:44 PM

JohnCarter: FTA: Among those allegedly executed from Thaek's family are his brother-in-law and the country's ambassador to Cuba Jon Yong-jin and Thaek's nephew and ambassador to Malaysia Jang Yong-chol. The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month.

So...if you were related to Thaek and were actually NOT in North Korea, why go back when "recalled" when you pretty much know how the play ends?


Probably because they didn't receive the message directly.

The embassy's political officer (or whatever the NK equivalent is) probably got it, then took them into custody and bundled them on a plane.
 
2014-01-27 12:37:57 PM

dryknife: "The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month."

I think I would have stayed where I was.


Yea no shiat.  I think if word came in for me to fly back to korea I would have made a sudden improv of Moscow on the Hudson, I would be over at Gitmo in 30 minutes crawling up to some marine going 'I wish to defect, please".
 
2014-01-27 12:38:09 PM
Probably was the type of uncle that would give lil' Un socks for Christmas.

If he keeps killing everyone related to him, there will be nobody left to hand the country over to when he dies.
 
2014-01-27 12:38:44 PM
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2014-01-27 12:38:51 PM

Satanic_Hamster: show me: Good. He should kill everyone even remotely related to his uncle.

I know what you're going for, but he's not blood related to his uncle.


FTA: "Among those allegedly executed from Thaek's family are his brother-in-law... and Thaek's nephew"

The people he allegedly executed aren't blood-related to his uncle, either.  So hopefully his name is still in the hat.
 
2014-01-27 12:39:39 PM
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2014-01-27 12:40:20 PM

dryknife: "The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month."

I think I would have stayed where I was.


You and me both.

And what did people think he was going to do? He has to protect himself from his family coming for revenge. He had to end he blood line. That is evil dictator 101.
 
2014-01-27 12:40:59 PM
I would like to care, but i just dont. In the end all governments are democratic, enough people need to rise up and wipe this turd out. it is their proplem we have our own aand need to stop being the world police/911
 
2014-01-27 12:41:39 PM
I sometimes wonder if the military actually runs the government and IL is their puppet. And they are weeding out his family for a coup (no one to take a seat at the throne). One day his most trusted Military Chief will walk up and put a bullet in his head and the country will be ruled by a group of dictators.

Just a thought.
 
2014-01-27 12:44:38 PM

namegoeshere: EJ25T: FTA: "Among those allegedly executed from Thaek's family are his brother-in-law and the country's ambassador to Cuba Jon Yong-jin and Thaek's nephew and ambassador to Malaysia Jang Yong-chol. The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month. "

You know, if I had learned that a high-ranking family member had been executed recently, I might just not go home and disappear permanently. Just sayin'

That was my thought. They were recalled and they WENT??

Although Un was probably holding their wives and children hostage inside NK. Evil bastard.


Yeah pretty much the only way out would be to stage a fatal car crash or something on your way to the airport.  But if I were in Kim Jong Un;s family I think the first thing I'd do when leaving the country is buy a few cadavers to keep inmy freezer and a jalopy with bad brakes for the embassy motor pool
 
2014-01-27 12:45:43 PM

Stoker: I sometimes wonder if the military actually runs the government and IL is their puppet. And they are weeding out his family for a coup (no one to take a seat at the throne). One day his most trusted Military Chief will walk up and put a bullet in his head and the country will be ruled by a group of dictators.

Just a thought.


nah, Un already realized this and is weeding out the military leaders that hold any clout within the government and offing them now before a coup can materialize.
 
2014-01-27 12:46:03 PM

Saborlas: This is what happens when you raise someone to believe that he is literally a living God.


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Yep. No good can come of it.
 
2014-01-27 12:46:10 PM
he must have gotten the complete works of Shakespeare I sent him.
 
2014-01-27 12:46:27 PM

Saborlas: This is what happens when you raise someone to believe that he is literally a living God.


Wasn't he educated in Switzerland (and/or elsewhere in Europe)? He knows damn well he isn't God; he just knows enough people in his own country think he's a deity and he can pretend to act like one.

As others have mentioned, it wouldn't surprise me if the military is pulling many of the strings right now, either.
 
2014-01-27 12:47:26 PM
To be fair, shouldn't all countries have the right to rule themselves as they see fit?
 
2014-01-27 12:48:19 PM

Pinner: We lob missels into Somalia, but we can't take this guy out real quick?
It would be like the Winkie soldiers in Wiz of Oz after the witch melts.
"All hail USA!"


China would have a problem with this. And not just the obvious military action so close the their border. They would also end up with a whole lotta NK refugees.
 
2014-01-27 12:48:53 PM

InterruptingQuirk: wichitaleaf: InterruptingQuirk: I think the reason that we are so offended by this is that the equivalent act here in the U.S. would be killing off some Congressmen or CEOs along with their families and we know that only the poor grunts who we ship overseas are supposed to die. Which is why we only get national brouhaha when the school shootings happen at schools afflicted with affluenza.


/class war is the most fun war

Your a moron.
You do know that most of those "poor grunts" turn out to be very successful people and some even ceo's or congresspersons.

You mistake me sir, I am not disparaging those 'poor grunts'. They have to make it back alive to become all that they can be.


Ok sorry.
Defending our country is the right thing to do and quite courageous though.
 
2014-01-27 12:49:03 PM
Congrats on being a better sociopath than your dad... Sheesh...
 
2014-01-27 12:50:37 PM
Kim Jong-un commented on his uncle's death saying...

"I want him DEAD! I want his family DEAD! I want his house burned to the GROUND! I wanna go there in the middle of the night and I wanna PISS ON HIS ASHES! "
 
2014-01-27 12:52:52 PM
Does anyone know how Dennis Rodman feels about this? Because that's important.

No it isn't, not in the slightest. Although hearing him try to justify the execution of innocent children by his BFF Un might be lulzy.
 
2014-01-27 12:53:30 PM
wichitaleaf:
You do know that most of those "poor grunts" turn out to be very successful people and some even ceo's or congresspersons.

Most become very successful people? Citation needed.

Others become dead, crippled, psychologically traumatized, long term unemployed, etc. It doesn't mean they're bad people. War does horrible things to people.

/support the troops by not sending them into unnecessary wars in the first place
 
2014-01-27 12:56:27 PM
I thought he was Best Korean Cartman but he is turning out to be Best Korean Joffery.
 
2014-01-27 12:57:08 PM
So ronery.
 
2014-01-27 12:58:42 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: China would have a problem with this. And not just the obvious military action so close the their border. They would also end up with a whole lotta NK refugees.


Yeah, unless the U.S also wants to take the unquestioned lead and financial burden of re-stabilizing a country of 20+ million people, we have no right to do dick to NK, as much as you'd otherwise want to obliterate such an awful regime.

And, China's feelings I'm not as concerned about...SK on the other hand I'd defer to 100 times out of a 100 on this issue.
 
2014-01-27 01:02:14 PM

Mell of a Hess: show me: Good. He should kill everyone even remotely related to his uncle.

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*Shudders*



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2014-01-27 01:02:29 PM
Sounds like a dynasitc Asian Warlord to me.
 
2014-01-27 01:08:56 PM

wxboy: Probably was the type of uncle that would give lil' Un socks for Christmas.

If he keeps killing everyone related to him, there will be nobody left to hand the country over to when he dies.


There's your problem; all of the "Dear Leader"s (or whatever the current THUG calls himself) will "Live Forever" because of "I'm-God-On-Earth" reasons.
 
2014-01-27 01:09:40 PM
namegoeshere: Does anyone know how Dennis Rodman feels about this? Because that's important.
No it isn't, not in the slightest. Although hearing him try to justify the execution of innocent children by his BFF Un might be lulzy.


That would be an interesting interview if the reporter lived through it.
Reporter: Dennis Rodman, you are just getting over a serious case of DT's. Can you tell us your feelings about your good buddy in Best Korea killing off the families of his uncle?
Although he could say "I was drunk" or "I got my money upfront" and the media would probably let him slide.
 
2014-01-27 01:10:46 PM

Killer Cars: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: China would have a problem with this. And not just the obvious military action so close the their border. They would also end up with a whole lotta NK refugees.

Yeah, unless the U.S also wants to take the unquestioned lead and financial burden of re-stabilizing a country of 20+ million people, we have no right to do dick to NK, as much as you'd otherwise want to obliterate such an awful regime.

And, China's feelings I'm not as concerned about...SK on the other hand I'd defer to 100 times out of a 100 on this issue.


Exactly. Galaxy S 5 is coming out soon.
 
2014-01-27 01:11:57 PM
In the days following Thaek's execution there were rumors that his body had been fed to a pack of 120 dogs

Throw him the sword!

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2014-01-27 01:13:14 PM

dryknife: "The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month."

I think I would have stayed where I was.


Or defect. Owner-operate, Holiday Inn!
 
2014-01-27 01:16:44 PM

Stoker: I sometimes wonder if the military actually runs the government and IL is their puppet. And they are weeding out his family for a coup (no one to take a seat at the throne). One day his most trusted Military Chief will walk up and put a bullet in his head and the country will be ruled by a group of dictators.

Just a thought.


Yes and No  I think Un and the military are engaged in a real life "Game of Thrones".  Un has the titular imperial power, and must appear to be in charge as Korean and Chinese emperors always must, even if they are in reality puppets of the palace staff.   The generals who ARE very powerful, do not trust each other enough to simply oust Un in a unified Coup to put one of their own on the throne, and so Un, who realizes this, is slowly eliminating anyone else who could serve as a creditable alternative power base for a significant faction to rally around.  He offed his Uncle, I believe in a large part because he had his eyes opened to just how powerful the uncle had become.

Recently he ordered a ministry controlled by his Uncle (a trade one that generated hard currency through exports IIRC) to give up a valuable fishing ground to the Army which had complained to un that without it , their soldiers would starve.

Wires must have gotten crossed about who exactly gave the order because when the Army arrived to take possession of the Port, forces loyal to Un's Uncle resisted-violently.  Worse yet, they basically completely routed the Army forces until massive reinforcements where brought up for a combined sea-air-land assault.  Un was a little shook to realize he didn't control the best trained soldiers in his own country and execution-a-palooza ensued
 
2014-01-27 01:17:37 PM

Saborlas: This is what happens when you raise someone to believe that he is literally a living God.


Not necessarily.  It happens just about anytime someone is handed near absolute authority.  There is a good reason that the US Constitution bans Bills of Attainder.  While the English Crown mostly used it to execute people and seize their property without much of a trial, it's basically that when someone is found guilty of a serious crime, they and their entire family can be declared tainted by the crime, and the family is punished too by having their property seized.  It's not that far of a logical leap from declaring an entire family tainted by a crime worthy enough to execute one of them to considering them all for execution.
 
2014-01-27 01:19:09 PM

LrdPhoenix: Saborlas: This is what happens when you raise someone to believe that he is literally a living God.

Not necessarily.  It happens just about anytime someone is handed near absolute authority.  There is a good reason that the US Constitution bans Bills of Attainder.  While the English Crown mostly used it to execute people and seize their property without much of a trial, it's basically that when someone is found guilty of a serious crime, they and their entire family can be declared tainted by the crime, and the family is punished too by having their property seized.  It's not that far of a logical leap from declaring an entire family tainted by a crime worthy enough to execute one of them to considering them all for execution.



Acquired Situational Narcissism.

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m00
2014-01-27 01:23:40 PM

InterruptingQuirk: I think the reason that we are so offended by this is that the equivalent act here in the U.S. would be killing off some Congressmen or CEOs along with their families and we know that only the poor grunts who we ship overseas are supposed to die. Which is why we only get national brouhaha when the school shootings happen at schools afflicted with affluenza.


/class war is the most fun war


You have made my favorites list :)
 
2014-01-27 01:25:18 PM

Warlordtrooper: To be fair, shouldn't all countries have the right to rule themselves as they see fit?


Not a popular sentiment these days.
 
2014-01-27 01:25:39 PM

toraque: show me: Good. He should kill everyone even remotely related to his uncle.

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This one is smart.  Put him on the list too.


*Like* :)
 
2014-01-27 01:28:05 PM
That magnificent bastard read Stalin's book.  That's how the pro's do it.
 
2014-01-27 01:30:53 PM

zimbomba63: That magnificent bastard read Stalin's book.  That's how the pro's do it.



Did he read it in the original Klingon?
 
2014-01-27 01:32:47 PM

patrick767: wichitaleaf:
You do know that most of those "poor grunts" turn out to be very successful people and some even ceo's or congresspersons.

Most become very successful people? Citation needed.

Others become dead, crippled, psychologically traumatized, long term unemployed, etc. It doesn't mean they're bad people. War does horrible things to people.

/support the troops by not sending them into unnecessary wars in the first place


THIS. Thank you. I was trying to formulate a similar response but you did it better.

I'm so sick of this jingoism that we feel so good about because it elevates "the troops" but in reality that is all just to mask our awareness of the truth. We send working class people at working class wages (some of whose families require foodstamps and other aid) to kill and be killed for the agendas of wealthy, connected swine.

I have many relatives and friends who have served and who are proud of their service and I am proud of them but just when was the last time an American soldier or sailor really died defending our country or our way of life or our "freedom" rather than for some other reason?
 
m00
2014-01-27 01:33:50 PM
I'm kind of with Kim Jong Un on this one.

Before KJU took power, the entire government and upper echelons of society was filled with bloodthirsty power-hungry assholes. What he probably wanted to do when he took over was liquidate everyone in the military higher than the rank of captain, the head of every ministry and their deputies and their families. There is no path to reform in NK unless this happens. It is that screwed up.

But ofc, you can't do this all at once. You have to play a dangerous game of slowly purging the government -- slow enough that those next in line don't see it coming, or are happy to jump on the bandwagon because a rival is removed. But fast enough that corruption is removed quicker than it's replaced by those who need to go.
 
2014-01-27 01:35:45 PM
Executing the entire family of a political rival? How... Pombaline...

/there are other examples, that's just the first that came to mind
 
2014-01-27 01:37:10 PM
Less N. Koreans to worry about?  I'm ok with that.
 
2014-01-27 01:37:17 PM

generallyso: EJ25T: You know, if I had learned that a high-ranking family member had been executed recently, I might just not go home and disappear permanently. Just sayin'

Presumable that would end badly for your own immediate family.


But they're dead anyway!

Meh.  He's probably better off than living in Cuba.
 
2014-01-27 01:37:36 PM

Two16: wxboy: Probably was the type of uncle that would give lil' Un socks for Christmas.

If he keeps killing everyone related to him, there will be nobody left to hand the country over to when he dies.

There's your problem; all of the "Dear Leader"s (or whatever the current THUG calls himself) will "Live Forever" because of "I'm-God-On-Earth" reasons.


I highly doubt he thinks of himself as an immortal. It's not even likely that the Roman emperors ever believed that of themselves despite it being part of their styling. More likely, he simply doesn't care what happens to NK after his own death. That is a common dictator trait. Or, he may have a sense that the party is almost over and he is just trying to hang on as long as he can.
 
2014-01-27 01:38:11 PM
You think they will let you hunt people in Best Korea? Just like in Hard Target.
 
2014-01-27 01:39:42 PM

Stoker: I sometimes wonder if the military actually runs the government and IL is their puppet. And they are weeding out his family for a coup (no one to take a seat at the throne). One day his most trusted Military Chief will walk up and put a bullet in his head and the country will be ruled by a group of dictators.

Just a thought.


I doubt they have their sidearms, in his presence.  As the war went on, German officers had to surrender their sidearms, when meeting with Hitler.
 
2014-01-27 01:40:36 PM
They weren't being very nice.

one of the best TZ episodes evar
 
2014-01-27 01:44:56 PM
The Peter Principle, writ large
 
2014-01-27 01:48:57 PM

Parthenogenetic: generallyso: EJ25T: You know, if I had learned that a high-ranking family member had been executed recently, I might just not go home and disappear permanently. Just sayin'

Presumable that would end badly for your own immediate family.

But they're dead anyway!

Meh.  He's probably better off than living in Cuba.


Could be the leverage they use to get them back to NK.  When Rommel died, they promised him that his family and staff would not be sent to the concentration camp, which was the typical fate for the families and the personal staff of traitors, if he willingly committed suicide.  He complied, and they were not touched.  They may have offered the same deal to these guys, whether they kept their end of the deal is another story.
 
2014-01-27 01:51:05 PM

Duke_leto_Atredes: I would like to care, but i just dont. In the end all governments are democratic, enough people need to rise up and wipe this turd out. it is their proplem we have our own aand need to stop being the world police/911


Democratic? hmm. You get caught conspiring against NK and they kill you and everyone you know. The NK people are poor, hungry, and powerless to fight back against a ruthless army. There is literally nothing they won't do to the people if there was an uprising. They also currently have the world's largest forced labor camp, it's a giant melange of human rights violations.

I mean don't care if you don't want to, but it's hard not to have empathy for a people that are suffering that kind of oppression.
 
2014-01-27 01:55:38 PM

groppet: You think they will let you hunt people in Best Korea? Just like in Hard Target.


The most dangerous game of all. MAN, man.
 
2014-01-27 01:55:38 PM

MayoSlather: Duke_leto_Atredes: I would like to care, but i just dont. In the end all governments are democratic, enough people need to rise up and wipe this turd out. it is their proplem we have our own aand need to stop being the world police/911

Democratic? hmm. You get caught conspiring against NK and they kill you and everyone you know. The NK people are poor, hungry, and powerless to fight back against a ruthless army. There is literally nothing they won't do to the people if there was an uprising. They also currently have the world's largest forced labor camp, it's a giant melange of human rights violations.

I mean don't care if you don't want to, but it's hard not to have empathy for a people that are suffering that kind of oppression.


Bears repeating.
 
2014-01-27 01:56:12 PM

MayoSlather: Democratic? hmm. You get caught conspiring against NK and they kill you and everyone you know. The NK people are poor, hungry, and powerless to fight back against a ruthless army. There is literally nothing they won't do to the people if there was an uprising. They also currently have the world's largest forced labor camp, it's a giant melange of human rights violations.

I mean don't care if you don't want to, but it's hard not to have empathy for a people that are suffering that kind of oppression.


I'm still waiting for Rodman to say the wrong thing, or have the wrong reaction or even just be in the wrong place at the wrong time on one of his diplomatic excursions.  It's got to be like hanging out with one of Joe Pesci's characters.
 
2014-01-27 01:58:58 PM
Un needs killing.
 
2014-01-27 02:01:16 PM

EJ25T: FTA: "Among those allegedly executed from Thaek's family are his brother-in-law and the country's ambassador to Cuba Jon Yong-jin and Thaek's nephew and ambassador to Malaysia Jang Yong-chol. The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month. "

You know, if I had learned that a high-ranking family member had been executed recently, I might just not go home and disappear permanently. Just sayin'


I remember when that thread about them being recalled came up I commented about how they'd probably end up being executed... but I wonder how many future diplomats will bother with recall orders in the future after this.
 
2014-01-27 02:03:03 PM
www.wearysloth.com
 
2014-01-27 02:04:59 PM

mbillips: Approves


Just watched 1 and 2 yesterday with the ladyfriend who hadn't seen them. Those were some cold-blooded mofos.
 
2014-01-27 02:06:11 PM

CleanAndPure: Misread article headline as:

"Kim Jong un-executes uncle"

Wondered how you go about unexecuting someone.


Glad I'm not alone in my confusion
 
2014-01-27 02:07:39 PM

dryknife: "The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month."

I think I would have stayed where I was.


Recalled could have meant dragged out of your bed at night, thrown in box and shipped back.
 
2014-01-27 02:10:53 PM
Asian Bobby Hill doesn't fark around.
 
2014-01-27 02:11:57 PM
Remember: America just as bad, according to people who swing a bit too wide in their opposition to blind patriotism.
 
2014-01-27 02:14:10 PM

show me: Good. He should kill everyone even remotely related to his uncle.


Remember the study that found that almost everyone in the US was separated from each other by less than 5 or so degrees of separation? I think to be safe, the Norks need to execute the entire country.
 
2014-01-27 02:17:46 PM

gshepnyc: Two16: wxboy: Probably was the type of uncle that would give lil' Un socks for Christmas.

If he keeps killing everyone related to him, there will be nobody left to hand the country over to when he dies.

There's your problem; all of the "Dear Leader"s (or whatever the current THUG calls himself) will "Live Forever" because of "I'm-God-On-Earth" reasons.

I highly doubt he thinks of himself as an immortal. It's not even likely that the Roman emperors ever believed that of themselves despite it being part of their styling. More likely, he simply doesn't care what happens to NK after his own death. That is a common dictator trait. Or, he may have a sense that the party is almost over and he is just trying to hang on as long as he can.


Oh, I know *HE* knows that; the rest of his population... not so much, or too scared to want to know. :(
 
2014-01-27 02:20:35 PM

MayoSlather: I mean don't care if you don't want to, but it's hard not to have empathy for a people that are suffering that kind of oppression.


Loadmaster: Un needs killing.


Granted, but sad as it is that's not our job. They're going to have to work this out. Sure, having the Chinese and Russians would ease the process along, but I am dead-set again the USA stepping in to effect "regime change" in Best Korea.
 
2014-01-27 02:21:52 PM

Pinner: We lob missels into Somalia, but we can't take this guy out real quick?
It would be like the Winkie soldiers in Wiz of Oz after the witch melts.
"All hail USA!"


They'll greet us like liberators?  Now where have I heard that one before...

If we miss or even if we get him, his lieutenants will open fire with all that artillery permanently pointing south and within minutes 5 million South Koreans in and around Seoul will die.  Korea is the worlds longest hostage situation.
 
2014-01-27 02:28:18 PM

Persnickety: Pinner: We lob missels into Somalia, but we can't take this guy out real quick?
It would be like the Winkie soldiers in Wiz of Oz after the witch melts.
"All hail USA!"

They'll greet us like liberators?  Now where have I heard that one before...

If we miss or even if we get him, his lieutenants will open fire with all that artillery permanently pointing south and within minutes 5 million South Koreans in and around Seoul will die.  Korea is the worlds longest hostage situation.


Perhaps they should MOVE to where the FOOD IS.

/err...
 
2014-01-27 02:30:03 PM

Magorn: Wires must have gotten crossed about who exactly gave the order because when the Army arrived to take possession of the Port, forces loyal to Un's Uncle resisted-violently. Worse yet, they basically completely routed the Army forces until massive reinforcements where brought up for a combined sea-air-land assault. Un was a little shook to realize he didn't control the best trained soldiers in his own country and execution-a-palooza ensued


Well, that and they likely weren't expecting any sort of fight/riot/resistance.
 
2014-01-27 02:30:13 PM
For historical perspective, there was a similar incident in China during the Civil War.

Although the Japanese had invaded China and occupied a large area, Mao and Chiang Kai-shek were fighting each other.  Temporarily headquartered in Xian,  Chiang Kai-shek's generals wanted to establish a truce with the communists and join forces to fight the foreign invader, but their opinion was overruled.  The generals then basically held hostage Chiang and forced him to agree to a truce.

However, at least according to the tour guide, Chiang had at least some of the conspiring generals assassinated after the war along with their families.
 
2014-01-27 02:31:04 PM

Saborlas: This is what happens when you raise someone to believe that he is literally a living God.


www.salamandersociety.com
 
2014-01-27 02:31:29 PM
If this actually does turn out to be true, the people around him will be so on edge until one of them snaps and shoots him point blank.

Then the remaining military has the choice of celebrating this or (more likely, unfortunately) continue the farce.
 
2014-01-27 02:32:06 PM
Anyone see this?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/secret-state-of-north-korea/

Keep sending movies.
/Big Macs too
//and fries
///Diet Coke
 
2014-01-27 02:32:14 PM

m00: InterruptingQuirk: I think the reason that we are so offended by this is that the equivalent act here in the U.S. would be killing off some Congressmen or CEOs along with their families and we know that only the poor grunts who we ship overseas are supposed to die. Which is why we only get national brouhaha when the school shootings happen at schools afflicted with affluenza.


/class war is the most fun war

You have made my favorites list :)


Well, that's a first . . . I hope you know what you're doing.

/BFF
 
2014-01-27 02:40:04 PM

Stone Meadow: MayoSlather: I mean don't care if you don't want to, but it's hard not to have empathy for a people that are suffering that kind of oppression.

Loadmaster: Un needs killing.

Granted, but sad as it is that's not our job. They're going to have to work this out. Sure, having the Chinese and Russians would ease the process along, but I am dead-set again the USA stepping in to effect "regime change" in Best Korea.


I agree the US has been too intrusive in the past, and we need to get out the way. However there is a level of abuse where it seems necessary to step in, and I think NK is right about there. We should use every diplomatic channel first though, but real pressure needs to be applied to get China to step in, who seems to have the most clout in the situation.
 
2014-01-27 02:40:42 PM

Pinner: We lob missels into Somalia, but we can't take this guy out real quick?
It would be like the Winkie soldiers in Wiz of Oz after the witch melts.
"All hail USA!"


Bahahahaha that's funny.

/No, the entire nation would go from 'organized hell' to 'Lord of the Flies'
//And it would be brutal as fark
 
2014-01-27 02:44:38 PM
Saborlas: This is what happens when you raise raze someone

you got to do it right
 
2014-01-27 02:49:35 PM
it's like he's living in his own video game.
 
2014-01-27 02:52:18 PM

colon_pow: it's like he's living in his own video game.


Judging by the state of the nation's finances, he's living in his own beat up version of risk.

/And all the dice are missing
 
2014-01-27 02:58:15 PM
What if one lone child survived? A great revenge story?
 
2014-01-27 03:00:17 PM
There's a good old fashioned power struggle going on. I wonder how long Un lasts. He's no Uncle Joe, that's for sure.
 
2014-01-27 03:00:19 PM

Haoie: What if one lone child survived? A great revenge story?


static2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-01-27 03:00:21 PM

Haoie: What if one lone child survived? A great revenge story?


You don't say...

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com

/Yes, I know we have a couple of other Starks, still.
 
2014-01-27 03:04:23 PM
He's just following Songbun. Wouldn't expect anything different.

FTL:

A bad family background is called "tainted blood", and that by law this "tainted blood" lasts for three generations.
 
2014-01-27 03:06:17 PM
They're not dead.  This little guy's just trying to get attention in a new way.

He simply retired them to the Bahamas; Uncle had to go first to set the living arrangements up.  The entire family is probably laughing their asses off at the entire world thinking what a "bad ass" his little nephew is.  Heh.  Good show, old chap!  Good show!
 
2014-01-27 03:14:47 PM

namegoeshere: EJ25T: FTA: "Among those allegedly executed from Thaek's family are his brother-in-law and the country's ambassador to Cuba Jon Yong-jin and Thaek's nephew and ambassador to Malaysia Jang Yong-chol. The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month. "

You know, if I had learned that a high-ranking family member had been executed recently, I might just not go home and disappear permanently. Just sayin'

That was my thought. They were recalled and they WENT??

Although Un was probably holding their wives and children hostage inside NK. Evil bastard.


IIRC, I thought some diplomatic staff were allowed to bring their family (spouse, children) along with them. At least, that is my understanding in US diplomatic service.

But, you would think that in the back of their minds, they had to know that being related to a guy that close to the top has/had its perks and drawbacks. (Not condoning what happened, just making observation.)

Either way, this shiat is farked up.
 
2014-01-27 03:15:00 PM

Loadmaster: Un needs killing.


So, you're saying he needs to become an unperson?
 
2014-01-27 03:30:22 PM

WhoGAS: They're not dead.  This little guy's just trying to get attention in a new way.

He simply retired them to the Bahamas; Uncle had to go first to set the living arrangements up.  The entire family is probably laughing their asses off at the entire world thinking what a "bad ass" his little nephew is.  Heh.  Good show, old chap!  Good show!


no. evil really does exist.
 
2014-01-27 03:30:49 PM

MayoSlather: Stone Meadow: MayoSlather: I mean don't care if you don't want to, but it's hard not to have empathy for a people that are suffering that kind of oppression.

Loadmaster: Un needs killing.

Granted, but sad as it is that's not our job. They're going to have to work this out. Sure, having the Chinese and Russians would ease the process along, but I am dead-set again the USA stepping in to effect "regime change" in Best Korea.

I agree the US has been too intrusive in the past, and we need to get out the way. However there is a level of abuse where it seems necessary to step in, and I think NK is right about there. We should use every diplomatic channel first though, but real pressure needs to be applied to get China to step in, who seems to have the most clout in the situation.


The ideal scenario for China is for someone to nuclear carpetbomb NK border to border and leave nothing in its wake.  The logistical and economic fallout of a post-regime NK is something no one, not even China, wants to entertain.
 
2014-01-27 03:34:35 PM

zimbomba63: That magnificent bastard read Stalin's book.  That's how the pro's do it.


Stalin was a hero - he killed more Communists than anyone.
 
2014-01-27 03:41:37 PM

colon_pow: WhoGAS: They're not dead.  This little guy's just trying to get attention in a new way.

He simply retired them to the Bahamas; Uncle had to go first to set the living arrangements up.  The entire family is probably laughing their asses off at the entire world thinking what a "bad ass" his little nephew is.  Heh.  Good show, old chap!  Good show!

no. evil really does exist.


What's funny is that we(as in you and I)can't prove it didn't happen just like that.
 
2014-01-27 03:44:08 PM

namegoeshere: EJ25T: FTA: "Among those allegedly executed from Thaek's family are his brother-in-law and the country's ambassador to Cuba Jon Yong-jin and Thaek's nephew and ambassador to Malaysia Jang Yong-chol. The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month. "

You know, if I had learned that a high-ranking family member had been executed recently, I might just not go home and disappear permanently. Just sayin'

That was my thought. They were recalled and they WENT??

Although Un was probably holding their wives and children hostage inside NK. Evil bastard.


Yeah, but wives and children can be replaced

// Never liked the little bastiges anyway
 
2014-01-27 03:51:54 PM

CujoQuarrel: namegoeshere: EJ25T: FTA: "Among those allegedly executed from Thaek's family are his brother-in-law and the country's ambassador to Cuba Jon Yong-jin and Thaek's nephew and ambassador to Malaysia Jang Yong-chol. The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month. "

You know, if I had learned that a high-ranking family member had been executed recently, I might just not go home and disappear permanently. Just sayin'

That was my thought. They were recalled and they WENT??

Although Un was probably holding their wives and children hostage inside NK. Evil bastard.

Yeah, but wives and children can be replaced



True, but they always charge a restocking fee.
 
2014-01-27 04:02:42 PM

InterruptingQuirk: I think the reason that we are so offended by this is that the equivalent act here in the U.S. would be killing off some Congressmen or CEOs along with their families and we know that only the poor grunts who we ship overseas are supposed to die. Which is why we only get national brouhaha when the school shootings happen at schools afflicted with affluenza.


/class war is the most fun war


3/10, you did get a bite and apparently got favorited, despite raving lunacy.  Next time space your key buzzwords out more to develop the lure.
 
2014-01-27 04:08:03 PM

InterruptingQuirk: m00: InterruptingQuirk: I think the reason that we are so offended by this is that the equivalent act here in the U.S. would be killing off some Congressmen or CEOs along with their families and we know that only the poor grunts who we ship overseas are supposed to die. Which is why we only get national brouhaha when the school shootings happen at schools afflicted with affluenza.


/class war is the most fun war

You have made my favorites list :)

Well, that's a first . . . I hope you know what you're doing.

/BFF


Pretty funny when someone all but announces he's a troll and gets favorited.  Kudos, I guess.
 
2014-01-27 04:08:51 PM
As a Dune fan, I wish Un would get a suspensor belt.  North Korea has become a real world version of Geidi Prime with the Kim family as the Harkonnens.
 
2014-01-27 04:11:08 PM
htopia.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-27 04:17:52 PM
Margaret Cho looking motherfarker,
 
2014-01-27 04:22:21 PM

SirEattonHogg: As a Dune fan, I wish Un would get a suspensor belt.  North Korea has become a real world version of Geidi Prime with the Kim family as the Harkonnens.


Hah! I just watched the DVD of Dune (2000 edition) the other night. Maybe one day the peasants will corner Un the way they did Rabban...off with his head!
 
2014-01-27 04:50:48 PM
www.wearysloth.com

Amateurs.
 
2014-01-27 05:08:38 PM

Seraphym: 3/10, you did get a bite and apparently got favorited, despite raving lunacy.  Next time space your key buzzwords out more to develop the lure.


keypusher:Pretty funny when someone all but announces he's a troll and gets favorited.  Kudos, I guess.

What the H E double hockey sticks are you two on about?

The whole 'call somebody a troll' trolling is really frickin stupid.
 
2014-01-27 05:24:57 PM
www.tjsl.edu
Approves.
 
2014-01-27 05:40:22 PM
Evil Overlord List item 38:

"If an enemy I have just killed has a younger sibling or offspring anywhere, I will find them and have them killed immediately, instead of waiting for them to grow up harboring feelings of vengeance towards me in my old age."
 
2014-01-27 06:34:56 PM

Rwa2play: MayoSlather: Stone Meadow: MayoSlather: I mean don't care if you don't want to, but it's hard not to have empathy for a people that are suffering that kind of oppression.

Loadmaster: Un needs killing.

Granted, but sad as it is that's not our job. They're going to have to work this out. Sure, having the Chinese and Russians would ease the process along, but I am dead-set again the USA stepping in to effect "regime change" in Best Korea.

I agree the US has been too intrusive in the past, and we need to get out the way. However there is a level of abuse where it seems necessary to step in, and I think NK is right about there. We should use every diplomatic channel first though, but real pressure needs to be applied to get China to step in, who seems to have the most clout in the situation.

The ideal scenario for China is for someone to nuclear carpetbomb NK border to border and leave nothing in its wake.  The logistical and economic fallout of a post-regime NK is something no one, not even China, wants to entertain.


Somehow, even from China's perspective, your suggestion sounds less than ideal to me.  Should I assume you've checked out likely prevailing wind currents etc regarding the actual fallout from such an "ideal scenario"? Or are you arguing that any "logistical and economic fallout" would be much worse for them than the  real thing?

Also, wasn't there a thread just a day or two ago regarding all the rare mineral resources to be found in North Korea? Maybe I'm completely mistaken here, but I'm led to believe that nuclear carpet-bombing would make for some difficult considerations regarding the exploitation of those resources.
 
2014-01-27 06:52:42 PM

DrBenway: Rwa2play: MayoSlather: Stone Meadow: MayoSlather: I mean don't care if you don't want to, but it's hard not to have empathy for a people that are suffering that kind of oppression.

Loadmaster: Un needs killing.

Granted, but sad as it is that's not our job. They're going to have to work this out. Sure, having the Chinese and Russians would ease the process along, but I am dead-set again the USA stepping in to effect "regime change" in Best Korea.

I agree the US has been too intrusive in the past, and we need to get out the way. However there is a level of abuse where it seems necessary to step in, and I think NK is right about there. We should use every diplomatic channel first though, but real pressure needs to be applied to get China to step in, who seems to have the most clout in the situation.

The ideal scenario for China is for someone to nuclear carpetbomb NK border to border and leave nothing in its wake.  The logistical and economic fallout of a post-regime NK is something no one, not even China, wants to entertain.

Somehow, even from China's perspective, your suggestion sounds less than ideal to me.  Should I assume you've checked out likely prevailing wind currents etc regarding the actual fallout from such an "ideal scenario"? Or are you arguing that any "logistical and economic fallout" would be much worse for them than the  real thing?

Also, wasn't there a thread just a day or two ago regarding all the rare mineral resources to be found in North Korea? Maybe I'm completely mistaken here, but I'm led to believe that nuclear carpet-bombing would make for some difficult considerations regarding the exploitation of those resources.


With China's increased influence in the world, they're not going to endanger that by nuclear carpetbombing their neighbor, even if their neighbor is a certified loony bin.  If things get too far out of hand, the Chinese Army would crush the Norks and they would re-establish some semblance of order.
 
2014-01-27 07:15:42 PM

wichitaleaf: InterruptingQuirk: I think the reason that we are so offended by this is that the equivalent act here in the U.S. would be killing off some Congressmen or CEOs along with their families and we know that only the poor grunts who we ship overseas are supposed to die. Which is why we only get national brouhaha when the school shootings happen at schools afflicted with affluenza.


/class war is the most fun war

Your a moron.
You do know that most of those "poor grunts" turn out to be very successful people and some even ceo's or congresspersons.


There are dead people serving as CEOs and congresspersons?

The people in the military, including the infantry grunts who make up most of the casualties, come from all economic classes. The thing they tend to have in common is that they come from military families; nobody else tends to join. They won't let you in if you have a criminal record, if you're uneducated or if you're not in good physical health/condition. That lets out most poor kids; they're either too fat/asthmatic, they're high school dropouts, or they have a record. 75 percent of today's young people (18-25) are ineligible for military service for these reasons.

My understanding is that only career military people get a real economic boost from serving. Short-term veterans suffer from higher unemployment rates than non-vets.

/33 years active and reserve and counting
 
2014-01-27 07:37:47 PM

mbillips: wichitaleaf: InterruptingQuirk: I think the reason that we are so offended by this is that the equivalent act here in the U.S. would be killing off some Congressmen or CEOs along with their families and we know that only the poor grunts who we ship overseas are supposed to die. Which is why we only get national brouhaha when the school shootings happen at schools afflicted with affluenza.


/class war is the most fun war

Your a moron.
You do know that most of those "poor grunts" turn out to be very successful people and some even ceo's or congresspersons.

There are dead people serving as CEOs and congresspersons?

The people in the military, including the infantry grunts who make up most of the casualties, come from all economic classes. The thing they tend to have in common is that they come from military families; nobody else tends to join. They won't let you in if you have a criminal record, if you're uneducated or if you're not in good physical health/condition. That lets out most poor kids; they're either too fat/asthmatic, they're high school dropouts, or they have a record. 75 percent of today's young people (18-25) are ineligible for military service for these reasons.

My understanding is that only career military people get a real economic boost from serving. Short-term veterans suffer from higher unemployment rates than non-vets.

/33 years active and reserve and counting



Would you say that the vast majority do not come from upper income homes, excepting the my dad's friend is a Congressman which is how I got my recommendation to one of the military academies so easy group, but rather the vast majority come from lower income homes?

I seem to remember in the last decade the pre-reqs for enlisting were considerably expanded to include certain non-violent offenders, possibility of getting your GED after/during boot, and the Army at least pushed the age limit all the way to 42 for a time.


/thanx for your service
 
2014-01-27 07:57:19 PM

on the road: For historical perspective, there was a similar incident in China during the Civil War.

Although the Japanese had invaded China and occupied a large area, Mao and Chiang Kai-shek were fighting each other.  Temporarily headquartered in Xian,  Chiang Kai-shek's generals wanted to establish a truce with the communists and join forces to fight the foreign invader, but their opinion was overruled.  The generals then basically held hostage Chiang and forced him to agree to a truce.

However, at least according to the tour guide, Chiang had at least some of the conspiring generals assassinated after the war along with their families.


And for even moar historical perspective (and probably more likely a source of inspiration for Kim Joffrey Un): the Nine Familial Exterminations, a very common way of pretty much executing not only the offender but every single motherfarker who might have any sort of connection to them when the offender managed to piss off the emperor personally.  Quite common historically not only in imperial China (which is where Chiang Kai-shek got the idea) but in Joseon-era imperial Korea (which is where it's likely Kim Joffrey Un got the idea, seeing as his whole family has had a serious hard-on for claiming to be the de factor successors to the House of Yi in all but name for the past three generations or so).
 
2014-01-27 08:35:38 PM

Great Porn Dragon: Kim Joffrey Un


Nice...
 
2014-01-27 10:14:00 PM

JohnCarter: FTA: Among those allegedly executed from Thaek's family are his brother-in-law and the country's ambassador to Cuba Jon Yong-jin and Thaek's nephew and ambassador to Malaysia Jang Yong-chol. The two diplomats were both recalled from their positions back to North Korea earlier this month.

So...if you were related to Thaek and were actually NOT in North Korea, why go back when "recalled" when you pretty much know how the play ends?


Because you have family and loved ones still living there?

Coercion.  It's a mutha-farker
 
2014-01-28 02:31:41 PM

namegoeshere: Does anyone know how Dennis Rodman feels about this? Because that's important.

No it isn't, not in the slightest. Although hearing him try to justify the execution of innocent children by his BFF Un might be lulzy.


He needed an excuse to avoid returning the next time Un summons him. Better rehab than taking a chance with his crazy-boy being bloodthirsty.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/18/us/dennis-rodman-rehab/
 
2014-01-28 03:43:51 PM

MayoSlather: The worst human currently on the planet? Probably.


Yeah, Un is like Justin Bieber if he had his own country.
 
2014-01-28 10:50:38 PM

Pangea: namegoeshere: Does anyone know how Dennis Rodman feels about this? Because that's important.

No it isn't, not in the slightest. Although hearing him try to justify the execution of innocent children by his BFF Un might be lulzy.

He needed an excuse to avoid returning the next time Un summons him. Better rehab than taking a chance with his crazy-boy being bloodthirsty.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/18/us/dennis-rodman-rehab/


He was drinking because of the "pressure to be a superhuman political figure"?  I would think most people would like him to start acting like a plain old human first, and then work his way up the ladder to the superhuman shiat.
 
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