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(Talking Points Memo)   What's the matter with Jersey? (Use both sides of paper if necessary)   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 78
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2014-01-27 08:49:17 AM  
It's had to wingman for New York for so long that it started falling in love with the repulsive humanoids it had to f*ck.
 
2014-01-27 08:51:07 AM  
It looked up to Illinois as a role model to corruption?
 
2014-01-27 09:29:01 AM  
I'm not sure if this author just can't get to the point, is paid by the word, or I no longer have any attention span... I pretty much lost all interest after some odd thing about paying for parking when it could have been free, or holding multiple elected offices, and what that had the fark to do with ...I ...
 
2014-01-27 09:30:12 AM  
You can't pump your own gas there.  What the hell is that all about?
 
2014-01-27 09:45:16 AM  
It's the nation's armpit?
 
2014-01-27 09:49:18 AM  
They're lame like New York, New Hampshire, and New Mexico? Come up with something original, you dorks.
 
2014-01-27 09:49:26 AM  
What's the matter with Jersey?

Easy. A bunch of liberals, for reasons I can't comprehend, bought into the "I'm a bi-partisan moderate!" bullshiat our dough ball of a governor was spewing.
 
2014-01-27 09:52:15 AM  
abcnews.go.com
www.eonline.com
 
2014-01-27 09:58:20 AM  
In an image....

www.lonelyplanet.com
 
2014-01-27 09:59:15 AM  
Lived in Jersey for ten years, 2001-2011.

Things wrong with NJ:
Can't pump your own gas
The Shore (it's a farking BEACH); included in that the number of private beaches
Phili
NYC
Camden
Jersey City/Newark

Things right with NJ:
Chick parm, meat ball parm, prosciutto + fresh mozzarella subs
Pizza
Delis
Boylan Sodas
Stewarts Sodas (yes, I know these come from New York)
Portuguese bbq
 
2014-01-27 10:03:13 AM  
Statistically New Jersey does not suffer from an unusual amount of corruption. Sure, we put big numbers on the board, but we're nothing like Louisiana or Illinois or parts of the old Confederacy.


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2014-01-27 10:05:26 AM  
Well, my first guess would be "a lot"...
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// Jersey-born, and proud
 
2014-01-27 10:05:47 AM  
I never thought of Jersey as a corrupt state with their high median income and all.

When I think of corruption I think of Detroit, Illinois, and the deep South.
 
2014-01-27 10:07:23 AM  
It has the only potential presidential candidate that the DNC is actually, to quote from any article about Wendy Davis, "SO AFRAID OF!!!1"?
 
2014-01-27 10:07:55 AM  

Sybarite: Statistically New Jersey does not suffer from an unusual amount of corruption. Sure, we put big numbers on the board, but we're nothing like Louisiana or Illinois or parts of the old Confederacy.


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Wow, Texas and California are surprisingly clean.
 
2014-01-27 10:10:21 AM  
Decaying infrastructure
Endemic political corruption
Pollution (one of the highest asthma rates in the country)
Highest property taxes in the country (this is bound to get worse as the rest of the country opens up gambling operations and AC revenue tanks)
Nearly 9 percent of adults in the state have diabetes and 61.5 percent are either overweight or obese
 
2014-01-27 10:11:53 AM  

s2s2s2: It has the only potential presidential candidate that the DNC is actually, to quote from any article about Wendy Davis, "SO AFRAID OF!!!1"?


I just don't think the Snooki/Jwow ticket is viable in 2016. We're not ready for a chunky guido as our leader.
 
2014-01-27 10:14:53 AM  

Obama's Reptiloid Master: I just don't think the Snooki/Jwow ticket is viable in 2016. We're not ready for a chunky guido as our leader.


Mentions two fairly thin girls, while Governor FAT-FATTY-FAT-FAT reigns.
 
2014-01-27 10:15:50 AM  
Norcross is the answer to a lot of this.

Do you really think its coincidence that Christie's agenda is based around "reforming" New Jersey's public schools, some of the best in the country, and Norcross happens to own huge stakes in a charter school company?

/bi-partisan corruption
 
2014-01-27 10:17:36 AM  

nekom: You can't pump your own gas there.  What the hell is that all about?


Insurance. For a gas station it's cheaper to hire someone, probably trained in HazMat, than pay the extra insurance for your neighbor's Ford Exploder to spark an item on the news when he drops his cigarette trying to dial with one hand and hold the pump with the other.

Why NJ gas and diesel is so cheap, like South Texas cheap, is the real mystery..
 
2014-01-27 10:18:51 AM  

s2s2s2: Obama's Reptiloid Master: I just don't think the Snooki/Jwow ticket is viable in 2016. We're not ready for a chunky guido as our leader.

Mentions two fairly thin girls, while Governor FAT-FATTY-FAT-FAT reigns.


I bet you're a real riot at parties.

"You see, the reason ORM's joke is funny is that it portrays the average-sized yet large for television stars Snooki and Jwow as the rotund Italian Americans, when in fact Chris Christie is the large one ORM is snidely saying is unfit to be President. For a follow up, I suggest he make a Taft 2.0 joke to really drive the point home!"

"Hey, where's everyone going? I was just about to analyze why Community is the funniest show on television!"
 
2014-01-27 10:20:45 AM  

super_grass: Sybarite: Statistically New Jersey does not suffer from an unusual amount of corruption. Sure, we put big numbers on the board, but we're nothing like Louisiana or Illinois or parts of the old Confederacy.


[static6.businessinsider.com image 813x961]

Wow, Texas and California are surprisingly clean.


Unless those other states are so corrupt they can't get a conviction. Just a thought.
 
2014-01-27 10:21:58 AM  

super_grass: Wow, Texas and California are surprisingly clean.


For Texas, there's a service you can hire to keep the published number low.
 
2014-01-27 10:23:51 AM  

nekom: You can't pump your own gas there.  What the hell is that all about?


It's freaking awesome when it's 5 degrees outside.

Not only do they pump it for you while you stay toasty warm inside your car, but it's $.30/gallon cheaper than in New York.
 
2014-01-27 10:32:11 AM  

AliceBToklasLives: [www.eonline.com image 300x484]


False.

Snooki was born and raised, and still lives in, NY.

s2s2s2: It has the only potential presidential candidate that the DNC is actually, to quote from any article about Wendy Davis, "SO AFRAID OF!!!1"?


I'm hoping that's sarcasm, because we've been over why the DNC should not fear him.

organizmx: Norcross is the answer to a lot of this.


Ah yes, the more local version of "SOROS!!!!!!"


BitwiseShift: Why NJ gas and diesel is so cheap, like South Texas cheap, is the real mystery..


You know that smell that people complain about in NJ? That comes from two things. Trash incinerators and oil refineries, both of which we have tons of. We also have one of the largest, if not the largest, port on the East Coast. It's no real mystery if you have any idea about the state's infrastructure and such.
 
2014-01-27 10:34:42 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: nekom: You can't pump your own gas there.  What the hell is that all about?

It's freaking awesome when it's 5 degrees outside.

Not only do they pump it for you while you stay toasty warm inside your car, but it's $.30/gallon cheaper than in New York.


For a 15-gallon tank, that's $4.50/fill-up in savings (less if you tip the pump jockey, which - does anyone do that anymore?). Not nothing, but when a fill up in NJ takes twice as long (or longer) than a fill up in DE or NY or PA, I'd rather just spot Sunoco the fin and be on my merry instead.
 
2014-01-27 10:40:48 AM  

grumpfuff: I'm hoping that's sarcasm, because we've been over why the DNC should not fear him.


I'm glad to say your hope is not in vain.

That said, I wonder what the next Christie scandal that goes nowhere will be. If they don't make a connection on one of these attempts, they will have to fear him.
 
2014-01-27 10:41:38 AM  

BitwiseShift: super_grass: Wow, Texas and California are surprisingly clean.

For Texas, there's a service you can hire to keep the published number low.


What service would that be?
 
2014-01-27 10:42:15 AM  

neversubmit: BitwiseShift: super_grass: Wow, Texas and California are surprisingly clean.

For Texas, there's a service you can hire to keep the published number low.

What service would that be?


Hire me.
 
2014-01-27 10:47:24 AM  
It's shaped like an infected appendix (whereas Maryland is shaped like a healthy appendix).
 
2014-01-27 10:48:11 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: It looked up to Illinois as a role model to corruption?


Illinois is about average in corruption, and, unlike other states, Illinois's corruption is about equally balanced between Cook County Democrat corruption and Downstate Republican corruption. This keeps things from getting too out of hand.

Frankly, whenever someone yells "Illinois corruption" or "Chicago Machine corruption," it's a sure sign that person is behind the times and not well-informed.
 
2014-01-27 10:53:25 AM  

BitwiseShift: For a gas station it's cheaper to hire someone, probably trained in HazMat, than pay the extra insurance for your neighbor's Ford Exploder to spark an item on the news when he drops his cigarette trying to dial with one hand and hold the pump with the other.


If this were true, gas stations in other states would require full service. The fact that they do not is pretty solid proof that it is false.
 
2014-01-27 10:59:48 AM  

thurstonxhowell: BitwiseShift: For a gas station it's cheaper to hire someone, probably trained in HazMat, than pay the extra insurance for your neighbor's Ford Exploder to spark an item on the news when he drops his cigarette trying to dial with one hand and hold the pump with the other.

If this were true, gas stations in other states would require full service. The fact that they do not is pretty solid proof that it is false.



You know, I don't mind a guy being wrong. Happens to the best of us. But I can't stand it when Farkers, in particular, just make shiat up and try to pass it off as fact. Come on, man.
 
2014-01-27 11:09:56 AM  

BitwiseShift: Why NJ gas and diesel is so cheap, like South Texas cheap, is the real mystery..


No mystery. Gasoline taxes in NJ are some of the lowest in the nation ($.14.5/gal). Gas taxes in neighboring NY and CT are some of the higest ($.50/gal).

http://taxfoundation.org/article/state-gasoline-tax-rates-2009-2013
 
2014-01-27 11:10:17 AM  
I was always fond of the Hunter Thomson explanation for Louisiana. Just a dumping ground for criminals in the early days.
 
2014-01-27 11:10:44 AM  
 

BitwiseShift: Why NJ gas and diesel is so cheap, like South Texas cheap, is the real mystery..


The NJ Turnpike and the Garden State Parkway.  NJ has a relatively low excise tax on gas because it makes it up in tolls.  It's the same reason it only costs 50 bucks to register your car each year and you don't have to pay extra for a smog check every 2 years.
 
2014-01-27 11:10:57 AM  

s2s2s2: It has the only potential presidential candidate that the DNC is was actually, to quote from any article about Wendy Davis, "SO AFRAID OF!!!1"?


FTFY
 
2014-01-27 11:11:47 AM  

thurstonxhowell: BitwiseShift: For a gas station it's cheaper to hire someone, probably trained in HazMat, than pay the extra insurance for your neighbor's Ford Exploder to spark an item on the news when he drops his cigarette trying to dial with one hand and hold the pump with the other.

If this were true, gas stations in other states would require full service. The fact that they do not is pretty solid proof that it is false.


Fact: It's because the powerful NJ Gas Jockey Union has a stranglehold on Trenton.
 
2014-01-27 11:12:33 AM  

s2s2s2: grumpfuff: I'm hoping that's sarcasm, because we've been over why the DNC should not fear him.

I'm glad to say your hope is not in vain.

That said, I wonder what the next Christie scandal that goes nowhere will be. If they don't make a connection on one of these attempts, they will have to fear him.


Whatever it is, it will be the first.  Unless you are considering how the GOP flipped it's sh*t when he hugged the black guy back in late 2012.
 
2014-01-27 11:16:11 AM  

s2s2s2: It has the only potential presidential candidate that the DNC is actually, to quote from any article about Wendy Davis, "SO AFRAID OF!!!1"?


As a young gay woman, I am terrified of any viable republican candidate--their public statements and policy actions make it pretty clear that, as a party, they are out to get me.
As a married gay person, many of the federal rights and recognitions I currently enjoy are at the whim and discretion of the executive branch.  Until gays are made fully equal before the law, all us queers have good, concrete reasons to fear any kind of republican leadership.
So I, personally, am very glad that Christie's presidential ambitions have taken a hit.  Remember that he vetoed marriage equality and thought it should have been put to majority vote.  That's a dangerous and farked up way to think, and I rejoice at his misfortune.
 
2014-01-27 11:17:00 AM  
It is in England?
Now, New Jersey on the other hand...
 
2014-01-27 11:17:07 AM  

coeyagi: Whatever it is, it will be the first.


LOL

Yeah, they've really taken him down a peg in the eyes of the GOP faithful.
Which one of the scandals have they nailed him on, again?

A: 0
 
2014-01-27 11:17:28 AM  

gizmo22: BitwiseShift: Why NJ gas and diesel is so cheap, like South Texas cheap, is the real mystery..

The NJ Turnpike and the Garden State Parkway.  NJ has a relatively low excise tax on gas because it makes it up in tolls.  It's the same reason it only costs 50 bucks to register your car each year and you don't have to pay extra for a smog check every 2 years.


So they have a financial incentive to keep people from stopping in their state
 
2014-01-27 11:19:46 AM  

s2s2s2: coeyagi: Whatever it is, it will be the first.

LOL

Yeah, they've really taken him down a peg in the eyes of the GOP faithful.
Which one of the scandals have they nailed him on, again?

A: 0


So, you're saying Bridgegate hasn't gone anywhere?  Those subpoenas are just figments of the media's imagination?

C'mon, dude, you're f*cking ignoring current events, not trying to do revisionist history on something that happened decades ago.
 
2014-01-27 11:27:03 AM  

ckccfa: As a young gay woman, I am terrified of any viable republican candidate


You really shouldn't be. Equality is winning. It's an unfortunately hard road, but the destination is in view. Long overdue.

ckccfa: As a married gay person, many of the federal rights and recognitions I currently enjoy are at the whim and discretion of the executive branch.


We definitely need to shrink the government's role in how we live our personal lives.

ckccfa: So I, personally, am very glad that Christie's presidential ambitions have taken a hit.


...among people that wouldn't have voted for him in the first place. This is making him look better, to the GOP. It's a dangerous game.

ckccfa: Remember that he vetoed marriage equality and thought it should have been put to majority vote.


He also backed down. Isn't equal marriage is legal in NJ, now?

I am having internet issues with my provider, right now, so I cant get a link, but last I heard, his second biggest error in the eyes of the GOP was backing down on the marriage ban.
 
2014-01-27 11:28:52 AM  

coeyagi: s2s2s2: coeyagi: Whatever it is, it will be the first.

LOL

Yeah, they've really taken him down a peg in the eyes of the GOP faithful.
Which one of the scandals have they nailed him on, again?

A: 0

So, you're saying Bridgegate hasn't gone anywhere?  Those subpoenas are just figments of the media's imagination?

C'mon, dude, you're f*cking ignoring current events, not trying to do revisionist history on something that happened decades ago.


It's amusing. The Federal and State investigations haven't finished yet, therefore it means "HAHA YOU GOT NOTHING!"
 
2014-01-27 11:30:25 AM  

s2s2s2: He also backed down. Isn't equal marriage is legal in NJ, now?


Yea, he did. Because people in the state were calling for his head for wasting tax dollars. He looked around, went "Oops, I have to continue pretending to be bi-partisan," and backed down.

If it wasn't for Christie, NJ would have had marriage equality years ago.
 
2014-01-27 11:30:30 AM  

grumpfuff: coeyagi: s2s2s2: coeyagi: Whatever it is, it will be the first.

LOL

Yeah, they've really taken him down a peg in the eyes of the GOP faithful.
Which one of the scandals have they nailed him on, again?

A: 0

So, you're saying Bridgegate hasn't gone anywhere?  Those subpoenas are just figments of the media's imagination?

C'mon, dude, you're f*cking ignoring current events, not trying to do revisionist history on something that happened decades ago.

It's amusing. The Federal and State investigations haven't finished yet, therefore it means "HAHA YOU GOT NOTHING!"


Come on guys. Denial is the first stage of grief, help him work though it.
:)
 
2014-01-27 11:30:47 AM  

coeyagi: So, you're saying Bridgegate hasn't gone anywhere?


So they found the smoking gun?

coeyagi: Those subpoenas are just figments of the media's imagination?


ZOMG! Subpeonas? Anything come of those, yet?

coeyagi: C'mon, dude, you're f*cking ignoring current events


How is knowing that the spaghetti isn't sticking to the wall "ignoring current events"?
 
2014-01-27 11:32:57 AM  

grumpfuff: coeyagi: s2s2s2: coeyagi: Whatever it is, it will be the first.

LOL

Yeah, they've really taken him down a peg in the eyes of the GOP faithful.
Which one of the scandals have they nailed him on, again?

A: 0

So, you're saying Bridgegate hasn't gone anywhere?  Those subpoenas are just figments of the media's imagination?

C'mon, dude, you're f*cking ignoring current events, not trying to do revisionist history on something that happened decades ago.

It's amusing. The Federal and State investigations haven't finished yet, therefore it means "HAHA YOU GOT NOTHING!"


It just means you can't say it has "gone nowhere".  Nowhere would mean NOTHING IS GOING ON.  I haven't said that this is the scandal that will sink him or ruin his presidential candidacy, I am just saying it is going far from nowhere.

Jesus, do you ever stop and reread your bullsh*t?
 
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