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(BBC)   It's called "good cholesterol" because it can solidify into fat-clogs and instantly kill you. Wait, what?   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 48
    More: Scary, HDL cholesterol, Nature Medicine, HDL, British Heart Foundation, chemical processes, coronary artery disease, arteries, Cleveland Clinic  
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2014-01-26 09:03:19 PM
This just in: Sometimes good things are not good at all!
 
2014-01-26 09:03:45 PM
Depends whose arteries it happens to.
 
2014-01-26 09:04:14 PM
I'm starting to suspect I may not, in fact, be immortal.
 
2014-01-26 09:05:18 PM
Im eating bacon right now.
 
2014-01-26 09:05:30 PM
...and this surprises whom? It's still cholesterol - the "good" and "bad" tags were easy handles, to get folks to understand that "cholesterol" isn't just one "thing", but, as usual, they turned into marketing terms as everyone started chugging olive oil and eating fish instead of chugging butter and eating beef. At the end of the day, too much of anything is a problem, and we're bouncing from dietary fad to dietary fad, heedless of this simple truism. Hell, Steve Jobs decided that he could cure his cancer by tweaking his diet into a single-food fetish, and look how that delusion turned out.
 
2014-01-26 09:07:51 PM

furiousxgeorge: I'm starting to suspect I may not, in fact, be immortal.


But I haven't aged at all since I turned 17!  Surely everything will continue like this with no change whatsoever!

/it's thinking like this what drives the penis pill industry
 
2014-01-26 09:08:31 PM
Hdl being helpful was arguably debunked a year ago. No comment about the new cholesterol guidelines released recently .
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-01-26 09:09:30 PM
Bad cholesterol would make me suffer instead of killing me instantly.
 
2014-01-26 09:13:37 PM
grumpycatpics.com
 
2014-01-26 09:15:26 PM
No ad for a wonder drug that will monitor it for you?
Eat healthy, take care of yourself people; it's simple.

/until drug is recalled
 
2014-01-26 09:15:32 PM
www.customfitonline.com
 
2014-01-26 09:18:50 PM
Fried egg, bacon, cheese, pate, lobster sandwiches with hollandaise for everybody.
 
2014-01-26 09:24:38 PM
ingat.info
 
2014-01-26 09:26:02 PM
They're not "good" and "bad."

They're "awful" and "even worse."
 
2014-01-26 09:27:18 PM
I SAID GOOD CHOLESTEROL MIGHT NOT BE AS BENIGN AS WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT.

/sure is getting old around here
 
2014-01-26 09:29:40 PM

Ehcks: They're not "good" and "bad."

They're "awful" and "even worse."


Better stop exercising then since that raises HDL.

/not serious
 
pla
2014-01-26 09:35:42 PM
FTA: Dr Hazen added: "This data does not change the message of eat healthily."

...He didn't, however, then go on to admit that he has no farking clue what "eat healthy" actually means.

"Yeah, um, eat a lot of *cough*cough*cough*, and avoid too much *hrrrm*ahem*mumble*"
 
2014-01-26 09:40:59 PM
Cholesterol itself isn't the problem... Cholesterol buildup is a sign of an underlying cardiovascular issue.
 
2014-01-26 09:44:17 PM
Cholesterol is like a pit bull.

How it turns out depends on the owners behavior.
 
2014-01-26 09:44:17 PM

pla: FTA: Dr Hazen added: "This data does not change the message of eat healthily."

...He didn't, however, then go on to admit that he has no farking clue what "eat healthy" actually means.

"Yeah, um, eat a lot of *cough*cough*cough*, and avoid too much *hrrrm*ahem*mumble*"


Right, because healthy eating is such a baffling mystery...

Let's see... A kiwi fruit or a bucket of KFC? Which is better for me...
 
2014-01-26 09:45:14 PM

baconbeard: Let's see... A kiwi fruit or a bucket of KFC? Which is better for me...


Better eat both, just to be sure.
 
2014-01-26 09:48:47 PM
Good, bad, I want it all. I WANT ALL THE CHOLESTEROL!
 
2014-01-26 09:52:03 PM

flucto: baconbeard: Let's see... A kiwi fruit or a bucket of KFC? Which is better for me...

Better eat both, just to be sure.


Hey! That's my diet!

/Yes, very very fat, yet also somewhat healthy.  I have good HD....oh.
 
2014-01-26 09:54:59 PM
It is starting to look possible that human biology is really complicated, and that pop health might not always be an accurate indicator.
 
2014-01-26 10:26:55 PM
I'm going to stick with eating whatever hasn't killed me yet. By the time they change their mind again toluene will be part of this balanced breakfast.
 
2014-01-26 10:27:55 PM

baconbeard: pla: FTA: Dr Hazen added: "This data does not change the message of eat healthily."

...He didn't, however, then go on to admit that he has no farking clue what "eat healthy" actually means.

"Yeah, um, eat a lot of *cough*cough*cough*, and avoid too much *hrrrm*ahem*mumble*"

Right, because healthy eating is such a baffling mystery...

Let's see... A kiwi fruit or a bucket of KFC? Which is better for me...


What if the kiwi was in the bucket too?
 
2014-01-26 10:33:49 PM

Shazam999: baconbeard: pla: FTA: Dr Hazen added: "This data does not change the message of eat healthily."

...He didn't, however, then go on to admit that he has no farking clue what "eat healthy" actually means.

"Yeah, um, eat a lot of *cough*cough*cough*, and avoid too much *hrrrm*ahem*mumble*"

Right, because healthy eating is such a baffling mystery...

Let's see... A kiwi fruit or a bucket of KFC? Which is better for me...

What if the kiwi was in the bucket too?


How about some Kentucky Fried Kiwi?

theora.com
 
2014-01-26 10:38:45 PM
If you eat enough lentils, you'll eventually poop yourself healthy.

At least that's what it said on my bag of lentils.

I don't think I'm going to buy that brand anymore.
 
2014-01-26 10:43:07 PM
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You better act now.
 
2014-01-26 11:55:36 PM
Article: Researchers have figured out how to differentiate abnormal "good cholesterol" which is harmful for your health, and are investigating potential ways to reduce it.

Fark: Doctors don't know anything about your health, go back to eating as much bacon and butter as you like.
 
2014-01-26 11:57:59 PM

wantingout: Cholesterol itself isn't the problem... Cholesterol buildup is a sign of an underlying cardiovascular issue.


Details please? Sounds interesting!
 
2014-01-27 12:25:39 AM
Was this cited research really only published in the journal "Nature Medicine"? I, like, buy the idea that things like cholesterol might not be all good or all bad...but do they really have to sell that idea in a journal called "Nature Medicine"?
 
2014-01-27 12:47:49 AM

pla: FTA: Dr Hazen added: "This data does not change the message of eat healthily."

...He didn't, however, then go on to admit that he has no farking clue what "eat healthy" actually means.

"Yeah, um, eat a lot of *cough*cough*cough*, and avoid too much *hrrrm*ahem*mumble*"


Must be related this guy:
i41.tinypic.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xAGIqVzu6k
 
2014-01-27 12:47:59 AM
tl;dr : take low dose aspirin
 
2014-01-27 12:55:33 AM
This has been known for years. JAMA published an article a while back tracing the "good" and "bad" levels. It went back to the pharmaceutical industry and statins. When they started developing statins they could only break cholesterol down so far. By the time they were ready for market new instruments had allowed researchers to study components of ldl and hdl and found a "good" and "bad" component in each. The hdl and ldl level of differentiation were worthless for health purposes. But it costs a billion dollars to bring a drug to market so the researchers largely kept quiet-- their labs get a lot of funding from industry. They still don't have a way to target the next level properly.

The thing is, we are surrounded by bad choices all the time. And our human brains are not good at making good long term decisions. For example, put salad on a menu and consumption of bad stuff goes up. People vicariously participate in good nutritional choices in close proximity to junk food unless they are alert to that tendency. They literally see the salad on the menu and rationalize upsizing fries because it is listed right next to the side salad and fruit slices. The brain equates reading about nutrition with experiencing actual benefits of good nutrition.

So even if we change the equation and saturate our consumer environment with healthy choices, many of us will be motivated to make the same or worse changes through this vicarious participation in consumption.

So we go to the doctor and get our pills because of ldls but controlling Ldls was obsolete practice before the pills were available. But if doctors know that patients aren't going to lose weight all they can do is try that magic pill in hopes of buying those patients some time in which they might be persuaded to exercise and fix their diets. It's a game.
 
2014-01-27 12:57:01 AM

flucto: Fried egg, bacon, cheese, pate, lobster sandwiches with hollandaise for everybody.


On a really crusty baguette, that would be awesome.
 
2014-01-27 01:10:17 AM

Fair_Poopsmith: flucto: Fried egg, bacon, cheese, pate, lobster sandwiches with hollandaise for everybody.

On a really crusty baguette, that would be awesome.


If you pan toasted it with european butter, of course.
 
2014-01-27 01:12:58 AM
Considering you'd die without cholesterol, there's no such thing as "bad cholesterol".  Pound the eggs and bacon cause low cholesterol is associated with a lot more disease and health issues than "high" cholesterol.

mmm bacon, the real health food.
 
2014-01-27 01:33:13 AM

lewismarktwo: Fair_Poopsmith: flucto: Fried egg, bacon, cheese, pate, lobster sandwiches with hollandaise for everybody.

On a really crusty baguette, that would be awesome.

If you pan toasted it with european butter, of course.


HUNNNNNNNGH
 
2014-01-27 03:01:40 AM

enemy of the state: wantingout: Cholesterol itself isn't the problem... Cholesterol buildup is a sign of an underlying cardiovascular issue.

Details please? Sounds interesting!


Cholesterol is a symptom of a problem. It's basically your body's duct tape for your arteries.

To really mix metaphors... When people are treating cholesterol directly, they're unscrewing the bulb of the check engine light rather than figuring out why it's coming on in the first place.
 
2014-01-27 03:02:33 AM
Translation: nutrition science is not actual science.
 
2014-01-27 03:12:00 AM

The_Time_Master: Translation: nutrition science is not actual science.


That's mostly because humans are terrible subjects for controlled experiments involving lifestyle choices.

Lots of observation data from humans "in the wild", but no ethical way to force a study group to eat nothing but kale and potato skins for a decade to see what happens.
 
2014-01-27 03:34:16 AM
Mix the right amount of ldl & hdl fats to get the best balance. Calories from junk food are just that, junk. The mix of high amounts of sugar and fats without exercise is guaranteed to damage your body.
 
2014-01-27 04:27:58 AM

Caeldan: enemy of the state: wantingout: Cholesterol itself isn't the problem... Cholesterol buildup is a sign of an underlying cardiovascular issue.

Details please? Sounds interesting!

Cholesterol is a symptom of a problem. It's basically your body's duct tape for your arteries.

To really mix metaphors... When people are treating cholesterol directly, they're unscrewing the bulb of the check engine light rather than figuring out why it's coming on in the first place.


That ^^^ exactly. Also dietary cholesterol intake almost always has no bearing on serum cholesterol levels.

/ ketogenic
// farking healthier than ever
 
2014-01-27 07:24:47 AM
Something bad, then good, is now bad again? Make up your mind.
 
2014-01-27 08:48:24 AM

The_Time_Master: Translation: nutrition science is not actual science.


An alien studying human culture would classify nutrition as a religion: it's a mix of cult fanaticism (vegans), politics (usda, food pyramid), and greed (big pharma, big agra).
 
2014-01-27 09:18:22 AM
The deal is - something will damage the insides of your arteries eg high blood pressure, high iron, and other things which cause inflammation.  LDL (generally) gloms on to the damaged area - and thats where much of the problem starts.  Now if you have  low cholesterol there is not much LDL to cover the damaged area.  If you have moderate or high cholesterol there is lots of LDL available to clog the arteries.  HDL traditionally is believed to be responsible for moving fats/cholesterol around the body. Of course the body needs LDL sometimes (for duct tape purposes) and if you have to much HDL it is perhaps moving LDL from where it is needed.
 
2014-01-27 08:58:33 PM
Just the GMO crowd trying to get good food out of diets in favor of corn , rice and soy processed food garbage.
 
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