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(Huffington Post)   I don't know which is worse, that this letter was written or that some editor at the Wall Street Journal decided to run it. (Link is indirect because of the WSJ's paywall.)   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 233
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2014-01-27 05:01:37 AM  
Well at least we know who the real victims are. It's the poor little rich boys that are complaining about the taxes on their mansion instead of being in jail for killing someone.

Anyone organizing this guy's telethon yet?
 
2014-01-27 05:09:35 AM  

FnkyTwn: I don't know which is worse, that this letter was written or that some editor at the Wall Street Journal decided to run it.

The answer is: The WSJ printing it is worse.

There are tons of crackpots out there, and just because somebody is a rich old coont, it doesn't make their crackpottery print-worthy.


No. The WSJ printed it not because they agree with it, they printed it because it was such a train wreck of an opinion by someone who is very influential. The editors felt everyone should be aware that he's a lunatic, in his own words, and it would be a disservice to bury it.
 
2014-01-27 05:15:55 AM  

rosebud_the_sled: Boloxor the Insipid: The lesson of Nazi Germany is not that crazy people get into office and do bad things, it is that an entire population can group think its way to concentration camps.

The jews of germany and the 1% in America are the same thing: they are scapegoats.

Really, and how many were sent - justifiably - to the gas chambers for destroying the US economy?


I don't think we had the gas chamber in 1929. And I believe it was ruled cruel & unusual before 2008. I think the only punishment was bankruptcy protection and bonuses. We hurt them pretty good.
 
2014-01-27 05:18:23 AM  

Warlordtrooper: I'm ok with this, lets put the 1% into concentration camps.


I'd just as soon tax their pants off!
 
2014-01-27 05:51:07 AM  
i527.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-27 06:08:08 AM  

The Name: coeyagi: Boloxor the Insipid: The lesson of Nazi Germany is not that crazy people get into office and do bad things, it is that an entire population can group think its way to concentration camps.

The jews of germany and the 1% in America are the same thing: they are scapegoats.

Well, I guess we'd all better stockpile pepper spray so we can protect ourselves against the Occupy Hippie Horde.

And how are the hippies going to exterminate the 1%ers? Make them eat Applebee's until they die?

Also, before they kill them with "Eatin' Good in the Neighborhood", what are the 1%ers going to do for pieces of flair? Grey Poupon-laced $1000 bills stapled to their foreheads?

And are Hollywood 1%er Jews getting an exemption from extermination? It would seem a bit hash, doing it twice in 100 years.

You are a very poor substitute for Mr. Coffee Nerves.


You are a very poor substitute for colon_pow.

Hey look, I can play "name drop non sequitur price is right" too!
 
2014-01-27 06:08:55 AM  

techgeek07: Has anyone started a white house petition to punch this guy in the nuts, yet?


Sorry, the White House can't be your Mafia any more than it can be your legislative branch.

I wouldn't mind watching if you find someone to do it, though.
There is no doubt that some of the very wealthy aren't giving enough back. Income disparity is an inevitable consequence of rising middle class labor pools around the world, the politics of the very top notwithstanding.
 
2014-01-27 06:17:16 AM  

MikeyFuccon: FnkyTwn: I don't know which is worse, that this letter was written or that some editor at the Wall Street Journal decided to run it.

The answer is: The WSJ printing it is worse.

There are tons of crackpots out there, and just because somebody is a rich old coont, it doesn't make their crackpottery print-worthy.

Thank God for the Financial Times, I say.


Fark that, bogleheads rule!
 
2014-01-27 06:20:01 AM  

Animatronik: techgeek07: Has anyone started a white house petition to punch this guy in the nuts, yet?

Sorry, the White House can't be your Mafia any more than it can be your legislative branch.

I wouldn't mind watching if you find someone to do it, though.
There is no doubt that some of the very wealthy aren't giving enough back. Income disparity is an inevitable consequence of rising middle class labor pools around the world, the politics of the very top notwithstanding.


In what way?
 
2014-01-27 06:40:38 AM  
Yeah.
You know what gave the Nazis their foothold in German society?
(Pay attention, Senator Teddy Cruz)

Economic decline.
Sound familiar, serfs?
 
2014-01-27 07:33:41 AM  

Warlordtrooper: I'm ok with this, lets put the 1% into concentration camps.


I'm sure that Tom Perkins has enough money to build his own concentration camp and hire "nazi guards" so he can enact his persecution fantasies.  Do us poors have to do everything for him?
 
2014-01-27 08:08:33 AM  

Graffito: Warlordtrooper: I'm ok with this, lets put the 1% into concentration camps.

I'm sure that Tom Perkins has enough money to build his own concentration camp and hire "nazi guards" so he can enact his persecution fantasies.  Do us poors have to do everything for him?


Amazing. Would funny again.
 
2014-01-27 08:49:01 AM  
i114.photobucket.com

WWLD?

/ Bite down on the son of a biatch
// Play some Rack and Roll
/// Not give a damn about you
//// All of the above
 
2014-01-27 08:55:55 AM  

VonEvilstein: [i114.photobucket.com image 398x599]

WWLD?

/ Bite down on the son of a biatch
// Play some Rack and Roll
/// Not give a damn about you
//// All of the above


Duh.

/oblig now that you mentioned it
//also, just a really good song
///Lemy is god
 
2014-01-27 09:11:58 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Isn't that sad? Gee, that's sad. If only there were some way for me to express my sadness.

[buelahman.files.wordpress.com image 355x367]



Gee, I wonder where he got the idea that violence was being threatened.
 
2014-01-27 09:43:20 AM  

Jim_Callahan: "Progressive" refers to a specific economic policy where the proportional costs of government are increased progressively as income increases, thus the term.


Holy shat you're an idiot.

The "progressive" income tax has nothing to do with "progressivism." It's named that because the tax rate progresses higher as income is higher.
 
2014-01-27 09:43:27 AM  

peasandcarrots: Cletus C.: peasandcarrots: Ignore me if this isn't a new observation, but something just clicked for me... These tools are genuinely a little bit scared, aren't they?

I mean, we make jokes about the French Revolution and show pictures of the guillotine, mostly out of frustration that these people don't seem to realize that they're living in a different world and don't understand that true victimization isn't a 1% capital gains tax increase. But I'm starting to think that some of them are getting a little nervous that the riff-raff might actually start coming after them. If this tool can compare the harassment of the Jews in Germany with civil unrest among the 99%, there's some part of his brain that really actually honestly genuinely does feel a little bit threatened.

And the thing about the 1% getting scared is that they honestly don't know how to defuse the situation they've created. They can't increase the moribund wages of their employees or ensure better access to the privileges of employment, nor can they pay more in progressive taxes to prevent the collapse of our social system, because everything they've heard and read for the last thirty years has told them that that's Wrong. So they're wracking their brains trying to come up with something else. A lot of them, like this idiot here, have decided to tell us how put-upon and victimized they feel. Don't you feel sorry for him now? Don't you feel bad that you hurt his feelings? Poor little thing. ...Why are you looking at him that way?

That was as twisted and nonsensical as Mein Kampf.

Compared to Hitler by a Fark Independent. I can cross another thing off my Bucket List.


"Stop being a humorless twit" remains, however.
 
2014-01-27 09:44:03 AM  

Phinn: Gyrfalcon: Isn't that sad? Gee, that's sad. If only there were some way for me to express my sadness.

[buelahman.files.wordpress.com image 355x367]

Gee, I wonder where he got the idea that violence systemic oppression and genocide was being threatened.


When comparing something to Nazi Germany, you don't get to play it off as "violence" like it was just a couple Hitler's Youth beating up an old Jew in an alley.  If you're going to make the comparison, and don't want to look like an utter tool, you should be comparing it to something that actually involves a few million deaths at least.  This guy is almost reaching Roger "There are Liberal hit squads out to get me" Ailes levels of delusional paranoia and people posting guillotine pics on the Internet doesn't make it any less delusional.

Perkins' analogy is bad, and you should feel bad for defending it.
 
2014-01-27 10:00:22 AM  

I created this alt just for this thread: When comparing something to Nazi Germany, you don't get to play it off as "violence" like it was just a couple Hitler's Youth beating up an old Jew in an alley.



The Reign of Terror, as depicted in the image from Gyrfalcon that I was responding to, was not isolated, but systemic.

From Wikipedia: "The death toll ranged in the tens of thousands, with 16,594 executed by guillotine, and another 25,000 in summary executions across France."

So, the position from a number of FarkProg posters here is not so much that Perkins is cray-cray to think there's a nascent threat of mass murder, but that it's justified, which is a substantially different argument.
 
2014-01-27 10:08:04 AM  

Phinn: I created this alt just for this thread: When comparing something to Nazi Germany, you don't get to play it off as "violence" like it was just a couple Hitler's Youth beating up an old Jew in an alley.

The Reign of Terror, as depicted in the image from Gyrfalcon that I was responding to, was not isolated, but systemic.

From Wikipedia: "The death toll ranged in the tens of thousands, with 16,594 executed by guillotine, and another 25,000 in summary executions across France."

So, the position from a number of FarkProg posters here is not so much that Perkins is cray-cray to think there's a nascent threat of mass murder, but that it's justified, which is a substantially different argument.


I wouldn't participate, but I wouldn't interfere either.

farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2014-01-27 10:18:03 AM  

Phinn: I created this alt just for this thread: When comparing something to Nazi Germany, you don't get to play it off as "violence" like it was just a couple Hitler's Youth beating up an old Jew in an alley.

The Reign of Terror, as depicted in the image from Gyrfalcon that I was responding to, was not isolated, but systemic.

From Wikipedia: "The death toll ranged in the tens of thousands, with 16,594 executed by guillotine, and another 25,000 in summary executions across France."

So, the position from a number of FarkProg posters here is not so much that Perkins is cray-cray to think there's a nascent threat of mass murder, but that it's justified, which is a substantially different argument.


We have a system that has been manipulated over the course of decades to keep people like Perkins as rich as humanly possible at the expense of just about everyone else in the country.  Given that the people who have the power to change that are either actively supporting the status quo, or doing nothing to enact positive change, what solutions would you offer?  It may be distasteful, it may mean that we're barbarians for suggesting it, but when the only legal weapon you have against someone is the very weapon they're using to fark you over, maybe it's necessary to use a different kind of weapon that will solve the issue permanently.
 
2014-01-27 10:22:39 AM  

Flaumig: Phinn: I created this alt just for this thread: When comparing something to Nazi Germany, you don't get to play it off as "violence" like it was just a couple Hitler's Youth beating up an old Jew in an alley.

The Reign of Terror, as depicted in the image from Gyrfalcon that I was responding to, was not isolated, but systemic.

From Wikipedia: "The death toll ranged in the tens of thousands, with 16,594 executed by guillotine, and another 25,000 in summary executions across France."

So, the position from a number of FarkProg posters here is not so much that Perkins is cray-cray to think there's a nascent threat of mass murder, but that it's justified, which is a substantially different argument.

We have a system that has been manipulated over the course of decades to keep people like Perkins as rich as humanly possible at the expense of just about everyone else in the country.  Given that the people who have the power to change that are either actively supporting the status quo, or doing nothing to enact positive change, what solutions would you offer?  It may be distasteful, it may mean that we're barbarians for suggesting it, but when the only legal weapon you have against someone is the very weapon they're using to fark you over, maybe it's necessary to use a different kind of weapon that will solve the issue permanently.


So, you're advocating mass murder of the rich. You and Mr. Turtleneck are on the same page. Yikes. How does it feel?
 
2014-01-27 10:39:22 AM  

Flaumig: We have a system that has been manipulated over the course of decades to keep people like Perkins as rich as humanly possible at the expense of just about everyone else in the country.



Amen!  Sing it, sister!  I'm right there with you.


Flaumig: Given that the people who have the power to change that are either actively supporting the status quo, or doing nothing to enact positive change, what solutions would you offer?



Eliminating the massive financial rip-off that is our ass-farked monetary system.

I like to give one recent example -- even more recent than the time that the financial industry snapped its fingers and got a $700 billion gift by overnight delivery.  It's this:

www.creditwritedowns.com

What happened in August 2009, you might ask?  The Federal Reserve is the bankers' bank.  All banks are members of this cartel, and they all have bank accounts there.  They are required to keep a certain amount on deposit, and required to keep their own fund of reserves, which is the liquid assets they must have, as opposed to all of the other investments they make in loans and such.  Everything more than the mandatory minimum is "excess." Banks hate excess.  That's money that isn't out on the street, earning interest.  They are effectively obligated to lend out the excess.

In 2009, following the Bank of England's lead, the Fed gave banks a pass on lending money, because the economy sucked.  All investments were looking like potential losses.  They wanted to keep their money to themselves, but they can't.  They have to find something.  The Fed started offering a 0.25% return on all Excess Reserve deposits that the banks deposited back at the Fed.  That 0.25% looked a LOT better than investing it in mortgages, for example.  where they were looking at a -20% return.

The problem is that the Fed is the black hole of money.  It does no business with anyone except banks and the government.  You can't get a business loan from the Fed.  Money that goes there no longer exists.  It's retired from circulation.

So, this tiny interest rate on Excess Reserve deposits, is a place to park money.  It's a time-out from banks having to get in the game.  In other words, this Fed policy sucked $1.2 trillion out of the US economy, all on its own, almost overnight.


Flaumig: It may be distasteful, it may mean that we're barbarians for suggesting it, but when the only legal weapon you have against someone is the very weapon they're using to fark you over, maybe it's necessary to use a different kind of weapon that will solve the issue permanently.



Attending the guillotining festival isn't really my style.  It will (or won't) happen whether I cheer-lead for it or denounce it.

But I was merely commenting on the fact that Mr. Perkins isn't exactly wrong when he says that mass violence is about good match-strike away.  He can't both be wrong about that assessment, and the object of murderous threats at the same time.
 
2014-01-27 10:47:51 AM  
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2014-01-27 10:49:47 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: [pbs.twimg.com image 600x450]



"Asked to pay more tax"

Asked?
 
2014-01-27 10:51:59 AM  

Phinn: "Asked to pay more tax"

Asked?


Sure, the gentlemen can always move his money and his person elsewhere if he doesn't like the question. But you can imagine it says told if that makes you feel better.
 
2014-01-27 10:56:26 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Phinn: "Asked to pay more tax"

Asked?

Sure, the gentlemen can always move his money and his person elsewhere if he doesn't like the question. But you can imagine it says told if that makes you feel better.



Things like truth, accuracy and reality always make me feel better.  Thanks!
 
2014-01-27 11:04:29 AM  

Phinn: Dusk-You-n-Me: [pbs.twimg.com image 600x450]

"Asked to pay more tax"

Asked?


Corporations don't pay taxes. Consumers do. Corporations just collect them for the government.
 
2014-01-27 11:46:48 AM  
He does not appear to be a very good yacht captain. Here is a picture of a completely different accident he caused (not the one in which he killed the French doctor)

yachtpals.com
 
2014-01-27 12:24:28 PM  

This Face Left Blank: fusillade762: 2wolves: [www.theartblog.org image 247x388][img.fark.net image 570x238]

Closer match.

He's also got kind of a Christopher Plummer thing going on. Which ties things back to Nazis quite nicely.

I was thinking of Robert Loggia, but I like that yours brings it back to the Nazis.


img.fark.net
Rober Loooooggia
 
2014-01-27 12:32:47 PM  

Phinn: Dusk-You-n-Me: [pbs.twimg.com image 600x450]

"Asked to pay more tax"

Asked?


Well, considering that the GOP will merrily shutdown the government, trash our credit rating, and refuse to raise the debt ceiling all to avoid increasing taxes for the top 2%, yeah it's "asked."
 
2014-01-27 01:46:53 PM  
We've reached the point where their obscene wealth is making them actually, literally insane.
 
2014-01-27 04:07:21 PM  
Crazy rich guy doubled down. Still only TF but will go green soon.
 
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