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2014-01-26 12:46:01 PM

x23: shastacola: Condi Rice is pro choice,which I think makes her a devil worshiping slut in Republicanland.

preeeeetty sure she is a "confirmed bachelorette" if you know what i'm saying. you know... like "has a roommate".


She has the taint of Bush about her, that's for sure.
 
2014-01-26 12:59:04 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Like republicans are ever going to win a national election again no matter who the dems run. Not enough old white people left.


mongbiohazard: Maybe, but unlikely for several reasons. For one, a Republican with a moderate degree of charisma is a relative term. They'll still have odious beliefs that they don't realize how horrible they sound outside of the echo chamber. Think Mitt Romney's 47% comment or Huckabee's recent shiatty comments about women.


Spoken like folks who don't remember the Brown/Coakley fiasco.

Remember that these days, a statistically significant number of voters are not merely stupid, but blindly, willfully, and incandescently so. Furthermore, while both sides are willing and able to capitalize on the mistakes of the other side, we have one side in particular that's demonstrated a willingness and some small talent at  manufacturing gaffes and pinning them on their opposition. The targets lose points in the polls for doing dumb things they should have known better than doing, even if they did know better and didn't do them.

Yes, it amounts to winning through cheating, but in certain peoples' books, all's fair in love and war. And it's a  kind of winning, and that's all that matters.
 
2014-01-26 01:01:07 PM
Condi is too close to Bush. I don't know if Republicans will be able to mention his name by 2016. Bush Sr. needs to pass away, so people can remember "good"  Bush.
 
2014-01-26 01:18:31 PM

Devo: Condi is too close to Bush. I don't know if Republicans will be able to mention his name by 2016. Bush Sr. needs to pass away, so people can remember "good"  Bush.


It was supposed to have been Jeb's turn. It's not too late.
 
2014-01-26 01:22:14 PM

x23: The RNC presidential straw poll is here,featuring the fresh, new voices and rising stars of the Republican party such as: Condi Rice, noted war criminal Allen West, and of course, RON PAUL

fixed. you forgot a key always-needed phrase in there.


Rice is a war criminal as well - among other things, she was in charge of setting  up the official government torture program.  Seriously.
 
2014-01-26 01:24:03 PM

x23: shastacola: Condi Rice is pro choice,which I think makes her a devil worshiping slut in Republicanland.

preeeeetty sure she is a "confirmed bachelorette" if you know what i'm saying. you know... like "has a roommate".


I wonder if she likes some white on rice.

/Got nuthin'
 
2014-01-26 01:28:37 PM
I heard on NPR this morning that Senator McCain had been branded as a liberal by the Arizona GOP.  It reminded of shooting a hole in the bottom of a boat while trying to kill a "snake."  Which turns out to be a fuel line...
 
2014-01-26 01:28:38 PM
Wow. The Republicans are splintering like the Whigs or the Democrats after the Civil War. Well, hopefully.
I think we should create a joke candidate that's the most insanely right wing person conceivable and field him as a candidate. Got any ideas for a platform?
 
2014-01-26 01:29:44 PM

TV's Vinnie: I thought RON PAUL said that he wasn't going to run again if he didn't get the nomination in 2012.

Oh, that's right I forgot. Republicans are f'ing liars who never keep their promises.


That's not a list of people who've said they're running, right?
 
2014-01-26 01:29:55 PM

Dinki: Condi always struck me as an incredibly intelligent woman who let her affection for GWB cloud her judgement.



While Bush had the character to convincingly sell the idea of "knowing nuthin'" about the impending 9/11 attack, Condi was given every urgent memo relating to the plans of al Quaida, with specifics like "training at flight schools" "teams now in the country" and "airliner hijackings for suicide missions" along with mentions of the WTC as a target.

She knows she farked up and is just smart enough to know that she should leave it be.
 
2014-01-26 01:36:39 PM

Richard C Stanford: Wow. The Republicans are splintering like the Whigs or the Democrats after the Civil War. Well, hopefully.
I think we should create a joke candidate that's the most insanely right wing person conceivable and field him as a candidate. Got any ideas for a platform?


The Republicans beat you to it.  Ted Cruz is already running.
 
2014-01-26 01:37:30 PM
So, a former National Security Adviser who had the greatest national security failure since Pearl Harbor on her watch, and who has never held elected office.

A guy who was thrown out of the Army in disgrace, held one term in Congress and lost his re-election bid, and was fired from his most recent civilian job for making anti-Semitic slurs to a Jewish co-worker.

...and RON PAUL.
 
2014-01-26 01:38:59 PM
Condi has publicly supported gay marriage. Add that to the rumors surrounding her own sexuality and you can see she will never, ever make it past the fundies
 
2014-01-26 01:40:24 PM

Richard C Stanford: Wow. The Republicans are splintering like the Whigs or the Democrats after the Civil War. Well, hopefully.
I think we should create a joke candidate that's the most insanely right wing person conceivable and field him as a candidate. Got any ideas for a platform?


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2014-01-26 01:43:04 PM
I don't really see a chance in hell of Condoleezza Rice ever running for office. She hates answering questions, best I can recollect from any of her committee appearances before Congress. She gets flustered and aggravated in those situations. She's a wonk but without very many of the glad handing skills or inclinations of a Bill Clinton,* say.

*I mean that strictly in the political, non-innuendo sense, okay?
 
2014-01-26 01:50:46 PM

Richard C Stanford: Wow. The Republicans are splintering like the Whigs or the Democrats after the Civil War. Well, hopefully.
I think we should create a joke candidate that's the most insanely right wing person conceivable and field him as a candidate. Got any ideas for a platform?


CSB:  I saw a guy wearing a "Ted Nugent for President, 2016" shirt last summer.  It was the same colors and theme as the "Hope" shirt sold by Obama during the 2008 election cycle.  Of course, this guy was at the country music stage at Taste of Madison, drunk as sh*t, and it wasn't even 2PM yet.

Nugent would be a hoot.
 
2014-01-26 01:58:24 PM
 Don't forget the Canadian who wants to turn the U.S. into a christian theocracy.
 
2014-01-26 02:21:25 PM

jso2897: Dinki: Condi always struck me as an incredibly intelligent woman who let her affection for GWB cloud her judgement.

Also, FFS - one of these things is not at all like the others. While Condi isn't my first choice for anything, she could be put in charge of something important without my waking up in a cold sweat thinking about it.
She is, at least, a vaguely responsible human being of at least slightly above average intelligence.
And those two things alone put her in a different dimension than those other two assholes.


That "I'll only talk with you for one hour and basically filibuster the whole time" crap she pulled during the 911 hearings basically put her off of my list.
 
2014-01-26 02:23:38 PM
I suspect this is just a mass solicitation for email addresses, because those candidates are a farking joke.

I'm tempted to create a couple throwaways, just to vote for Sarah Palin and Herman Cain, lol.
 
2014-01-26 02:28:19 PM

Manhigh: suebhoney: I have plenty of unused email accounts to for this poll, so, I chose...

Ted Cruz
Sarah Palin
Rick Santorum

/libbiest lib that ever libbed

Democrats vote for the worst possible republicans in the primaries, republicans vote for the worst possible democrats, and we're left to choose from the worst possible candidates.  Yay!


I've never seen a straw poll from the Democrats.  How would you have any idea?

Awwww, my lulz offended your butthurt and the idea of BSABSVR.
 
2014-01-26 02:50:34 PM

jake_lex: Manhigh: suebhoney: I have plenty of unused email accounts to for this poll, so, I chose...

Ted Cruz
Sarah Palin
Rick Santorum

/libbiest lib that ever libbed

Democrats vote for the worst possible republicans in the primaries, republicans vote for the worst possible democrats, and we're left to choose from the worst possible candidates.  Yay!

Open primaries are one of those ideas that sound great on paper, but don't work in real life.


Red state lib here, and I object. I have to vote in Republican primaries if I want a say in local and state representatives.

I vote for the lesser of the evils because anyone who deliberately votes for the worst possible candidate is part of the problem.
 
2014-01-26 02:56:00 PM
Speaking of fresh, new voices, I caught a glimpse of some talking-head show this morning and I couldn't believe someone paid Rick Santorum to appear as the voice of the Republican Party. Of course, he was up against Van Jones as the representative Democrat, so it was like a cavalcade of stupid, but Rick Santorum? Really?
 
2014-01-26 02:58:13 PM
The RNC presidential straw poll is here,featuring the fresh, new voices and rising stars of the Republican party such as: Condi Rice, Allen West, and of course, RON PAUL

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2014-01-26 02:59:16 PM
I will not have the achievements of Allen West disparaged in this way. Please give him his proper title: Allen West, war criminal. He earned it.
 
2014-01-26 03:01:26 PM

Sgt Otter: So, a former National Security Adviser who had the greatest national security failure since Pearl Harbor on her watch, and who has never held elected office.

A guy who was thrown out of the Army in disgrace, held one term in Congress and lost his re-election bid, and was fired from his most recent civilian job for making anti-Semitic slurs to a Jewish co-worker.

...and RON PAUL.


You have to admit...it's a winning combination.
 
2014-01-26 03:05:57 PM
Finally, we have the so-called "whack-a-doodles" - fiscally conservative, pro-free market, pro-liberty voters who for the most part have aligned themselves with the Tea Party movement,

That word ... I don't think they mean ...

No wait, let me edit.

Finally, we have the so-called "whack-a-doodles" - fiscally conservative, pro-free market, pro-liberty voters who for the most part have aligned themselves with the Tea Party movement,

Those words ...
 
2014-01-26 03:29:28 PM

Manhigh: suebhoney: I have plenty of unused email accounts to for this poll, so, I chose...

Ted Cruz
Sarah Palin
Rick Santorum

/libbiest lib that ever libbed

Democrats vote for the worst possible republicans in the primaries, republicans vote for the worst possible democrats, and we're left to choose from the worst possible candidates.  Yay!


Because both parties are dominated by crossover voters in the primaries.  Oh wait, I meant the opposite of that.
 
2014-01-26 03:29:42 PM

theorellior: Speaking of fresh, new voices, I caught a glimpse of some talking-head show this morning and I couldn't believe someone paid Rick Santorum to appear as the voice of the Republican Party. Of course, he was up against Van Jones as the representative Democrat, so it was like a cavalcade of stupid, but Rick Santorum? Really?


Did you really expect better than this?  Talking-heads shows served only to entertain and what is more entertaining than the nonsensical ravings of Rick Santorum and Van Jones?  There is nothing substantive on these shows anymore.  It's the journalistic equivalent of WWF.
 
2014-01-26 03:29:44 PM
Dr. Rice is the obvious choice for 2016, especially if the Democrats run Hillary. They desperately need a candidate who is intelligent, charismatic, moderate, knowledgeable in foreign policy, well-known, highly respected, and can take both California and the South. She's a Presbyterian minister's daughter, came from Alabama and is a professor at Stanford. Any rumors about her private life will make little difference. Her "pro-choice" stand is carefully modulated. Even liberals will trust her not to do something stupid.

Let's face it, Condi's the best choice they have, and they know it. She's not a xenophobe, she's not a Christian zealot, she's not an imperialist. When Bush said he was going to attack Iran--yes, Iran--she threatened to resign unless he got Congress's approval. She stopped him from sending troops into Africa. She can split the women's vote and at least some of the black vote. I take it the African-American community is not swooning over Hillary. The single hardest thing the GOP has in this regard is talking her into running. At this point, they should be prepared to beg her. Frankly, she is so far above the others, it is difficult for me to decide who is worthy of being her VP candidate for the ticket.
 
2014-01-26 03:30:09 PM
the Tea Party ... cropped up in 2009 in response to the initial overreaches of the administration of Barack Obama.

What? No. Fox News cropped it up in response to a black Democrat getting elected president.

Initial overreaches. Like what, exactly? Giving morons equal time is not the same as being unbiased.
 
2014-01-26 03:30:40 PM

dericwater: x23: shastacola: Condi Rice is pro choice,which I think makes her a devil worshiping slut in Republicanland.

preeeeetty sure she is a "confirmed bachelorette" if you know what i'm saying. you know... like "has a roommate".

I wonder if she likes some white on rice.

/Got nuthin'


You know who ELSE . . .


mrsgrapevine.com
 
2014-01-26 03:35:16 PM

Close2TheEdge: Did you really expect better than this? Talking-heads shows served only to entertain and what is more entertaining than the nonsensical ravings of Rick Santorum and Van Jones? There is nothing substantive on these shows anymore. It's the journalistic equivalent of WWF.


I know, I know. I'm nothing but an idealistic fool.
 
2014-01-26 03:43:42 PM
Condi?

She's:

A) Black.
B) A black woman.
C) A moderate that isn't a member of the tea party. (RINO!)
D) Affiliated with the Bush Administration

Snowballs chance in hell.
 
2014-01-26 03:48:26 PM

GentlemanJ: Dr. Rice is the obvious choice for 2016, especially if the Democrats run Hillary. They desperately need a candidate who is intelligent, charismatic, moderate, knowledgeable in foreign policy, well-known, highly respected, and can take both California and the South. She's a Presbyterian minister's daughter, came from Alabama and is a professor at Stanford. Any rumors about her private life will make little difference. Her "pro-choice" stand is carefully modulated. Even liberals will trust her not to do something stupid.

Let's face it, Condi's the best choice they have, and they know it. She's not a xenophobe, she's not a Christian zealot, she's not an imperialist. When Bush said he was going to attack Iran--yes, Iran--she threatened to resign unless he got Congress's approval. She stopped him from sending troops into Africa. She can split the women's vote and at least some of the black vote. I take it the African-American community is not swooning over Hillary. The single hardest thing the GOP has in this regard is talking her into running. At this point, they should be prepared to beg her. Frankly, she is so far above the others, it is difficult for me to decide who is worthy of being her VP candidate for the ticket.


If she runs, Hillary, with her intimate knowledge of what went down in the State Department, will take down Condi so fast that outcome will be determined after the first 15 minutes of the first debate.
 
2014-01-26 03:50:27 PM

dericwater: GentlemanJ: Dr. Rice is the obvious choice for 2016, especially if the Democrats run Hillary. They desperately need a candidate who is intelligent, charismatic, moderate, knowledgeable in foreign policy, well-known, highly respected, and can take both California and the South. She's a Presbyterian minister's daughter, came from Alabama and is a professor at Stanford. Any rumors about her private life will make little difference. Her "pro-choice" stand is carefully modulated. Even liberals will trust her not to do something stupid.

Let's face it, Condi's the best choice they have, and they know it. She's not a xenophobe, she's not a Christian zealot, she's not an imperialist. When Bush said he was going to attack Iran--yes, Iran--she threatened to resign unless he got Congress's approval. She stopped him from sending troops into Africa. She can split the women's vote and at least some of the black vote. I take it the African-American community is not swooning over Hillary. The single hardest thing the GOP has in this regard is talking her into running. At this point, they should be prepared to beg her. Frankly, she is so far above the others, it is difficult for me to decide who is worthy of being her VP candidate for the ticket.

If she runs, Hillary, with her intimate knowledge of what went down in the State Department, will take down Condi so fast that outcome will be determined after the first 15 minutes of the first debate.


All Hillary has to say is, "I came into the State Department following Ms Rice's tenure. I know exactly what occurred there and it took me all of four years to repair..."
 
2014-01-26 03:50:57 PM

GentlemanJ: Dr. Rice is the obvious choice for 2016, especially if the Democrats run Hillary. They desperately need a candidate who is intelligent, charismatic, moderate, knowledgeable in foreign policy, well-known, highly respected, and can take both California and the South. She's a Presbyterian minister's daughter, came from Alabama and is a professor at Stanford. Any rumors about her private life will make little difference. Her "pro-choice" stand is carefully modulated. Even liberals will trust her not to do something stupid.

Let's face it, Condi's the best choice they have, and they know it. She's not a xenophobe, she's not a Christian zealot, she's not an imperialist. When Bush said he was going to attack Iran--yes, Iran--she threatened to resign unless he got Congress's approval. She stopped him from sending troops into Africa. She can split the women's vote and at least some of the black vote. I take it the African-American community is not swooning over Hillary. The single hardest thing the GOP has in this regard is talking her into running. At this point, they should be prepared to beg her. Frankly, she is so far above the others, it is difficult for me to decide who is worthy of being her VP candidate for the ticket.


All the intellect in the world could never wipe the taint of the Bush administration and Iraq off her record. She could have resigned, but she chose to go along with it.

Condi is dead in the water.
 
2014-01-26 03:53:15 PM
Until the far-right derpster crowd are marginalized and pulled from the positions of power within the GOP, they'll never win another election for the WH.

Whoever gets the DNC nod for the nomination will be the next President, I'm calling it now.

That's assuming the GOP doesn't get the derp crowd under control before 2016.
 
2014-01-26 04:04:42 PM
I'd sooner vote for Jesse Ventura.
 
2014-01-26 04:08:01 PM

Crabs_Can_Polevault: Spoken like folks who don't remember the Brown/Coakley fiasco.


Did you even read my post? I do remember it, it's just that the odds against it are greater every year. Sure, there's going to be an outlier here and there, but on the whole the GOP is facing an uphill battle and they're increasingly digging in and ensuring that they do not shift the odds in their favor. That doesn't mean that everyone else should rest on their laurels, on the contrary it means that NOW is the time when you put in maximum effort as now - and going forward - is when you can bury them for good.

Make their losses more devastating, and make them even more increasingly desperate... They'll make even more mistakes and dig their own graves even faster.
 
2014-01-26 04:22:03 PM
As a lifelong independent, there is nothing the Republicans can do to convince me that they have America's best interest at heart and as a consequence no way to earn my vote.

My votes will go for the Democratic party candidates. While definitely a flawed party, at least they're trying to do some good and not just trying to fark everyone over who isn't a Democrat. Also is not a 3rd party that has a better chance to keep the Republicans out of office than the Democrats so none of my national/state level votes will go toward 3rd party candidates either. 3rd party candidates might earn votes for me on a local level. Republicans still have no chance to earn my vote even on the local level.
 
2014-01-26 04:26:11 PM

JohnnyC: As a lifelong independent, there is nothing the Republicans can do to convince me that they have America's best interest at heart and as a consequence no way to earn my vote.

My votes will go for the Democratic party candidates. While definitely a flawed party, at least they're trying to do some good and not just trying to fark everyone over who isn't a Democrat. Also is not a 3rd party that has a better chance to keep the Republicans out of office than the Democrats so none of my national/state level votes will go toward 3rd party candidates either. 3rd party candidates might earn votes for me on a local level. Republicans still have no chance to earn my vote even on the local level.



Pretty much sums up my attitude too, and I was a registered republican for 20+ years. I finally registered as an independent in late 2012, and I won't be voting for a republican for a long, long, long goddamn time.
 
2014-01-26 04:34:18 PM

GentlemanJ: Dr. Rice is the obvious choice for 2016, especially if the Democrats run Hillary. They desperately need a candidate who is intelligent, charismatic, moderate, knowledgeable in foreign policy, well-known, highly respected, and can take both California and the South. She's a Presbyterian minister's daughter, came from Alabama and is a professor at Stanford. Any rumors about her private life will make little difference. Her "pro-choice" stand is carefully modulated. Even liberals will trust her not to do something stupid.

Let's face it, Condi's the best choice they have, and they know it. She's not a xenophobe, she's not a Christian zealot, she's not an imperialist. When Bush said he was going to attack Iran--yes, Iran--she threatened to resign unless he got Congress's approval. She stopped him from sending troops into Africa. She can split the women's vote and at least some of the black vote. I take it the African-American community is not swooning over Hillary. The single hardest thing the GOP has in this regard is talking her into running. At this point, they should be prepared to beg her. Frankly, she is so far above the others, it is difficult for me to decide who is worthy of being her VP candidate for the ticket.


California? Maybe in the primary.
 
2014-01-26 04:37:16 PM
The 3 candidates I selected were:

Rick Perry

Sarah Palin

What's the third one there? Let's see...   I would go with Perry, Palin, and, let's see. I can't. The third one, I can't. Sorry. Oops.
 
2014-01-26 04:42:53 PM

hardinparamedic: Condi?

She's:

A) Black.
B) A black woman.
C) A moderate that isn't a member of the tea party. (RINO!)
D) Affiliated with the Bush Administration

Snowballs chance in hell.


E) An unmarried Republican woman with a female "roommate."

A few push-polls and whisper campaigns in the primaries, and she's toast among social conservatives.
 
2014-01-26 04:45:37 PM
Wow, look at all the 'black friends' they have! I'm surprised they're not also running Alan Keyes.
 
2014-01-26 04:52:34 PM

Pauly Math: x23: shastacola: Condi Rice is pro choice,which I think makes her a devil worshiping slut in Republicanland.

preeeeetty sure she is a "confirmed bachelorette" if you know what i'm saying. you know... like "has a roommate".

She has the taint of Bush about her, that's for sure.


You are awesome.
 
2014-01-26 04:54:48 PM

Notabunny: Richard C Stanford: Wow. The Republicans are splintering like the Whigs or the Democrats after the Civil War. Well, hopefully.
I think we should create a joke candidate that's the most insanely right wing person conceivable and field him as a candidate. Got any ideas for a platform?

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Seven jokes out of eight ain't bad.
 
2014-01-26 05:19:41 PM
I want them to run Walker. Mainly so that we will be rid of him here in Wisconsin, but also for the lols, he has so many skeletons in the closet it would provide almost unlimited amusement. Plus he is so photogenic. Did you know that they forbit cameras at angles that might catch his bald spot?
 
2014-01-26 07:00:18 PM

KarmicDisaster: I want them to run Walker. Mainly so that we will be rid of him here in Wisconsin, but also for the lols, he has so many skeletons in the closet it would provide almost unlimited amusement. Plus he is so photogenic. Did you know that they forbit cameras at angles that might catch his bald spot?


They do allow them to a certain angle, but they must be far below him so you can't see his bald spot.  It's kinda pathetic.  A significant percentage of men his age have less hair than him, with far less stressful job histories, and most show some amount of hair loss/thinning, yet he's worried someone will see his bald spot.
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2014-01-26 07:12:26 PM

mongbiohazard: Crabs_Can_Polevault: Spoken like folks who don't remember the Brown/Coakley fiasco.

Did you even read my post? I do remember it, it's just that the odds against it are greater every year. Sure, there's going to be an outlier here and there, but on the whole the GOP is facing an uphill battle and they're increasingly digging in and ensuring that they do not shift the odds in their favor. That doesn't mean that everyone else should rest on their laurels, on the contrary it means that NOW is the time when you put in maximum effort as now - and going forward - is when you can bury them for good.

Make their losses more devastating, and make them even more increasingly desperate... They'll make even more mistakes and dig their own graves even faster.


I did read it. But I have  that little faith in humanity at this point. It's never a question of "when will they finally admit defeat?" It's a question of "what will they do to avoid that defeat this time?"
 
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