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2014-01-26 06:22:11 AM
Go home Allen, you're drunk.
 
2014-01-26 09:11:03 AM
Paul/West 2016.  Do it Republicans! How could they ever lose???
 
2014-01-26 09:41:45 AM
mwuahbahahahahahahahahaha

BWAHAHHAHAHHAHA

/me falls over
 
2014-01-26 09:45:41 AM
Condi Rice is never going to run for president.
 
2014-01-26 09:49:25 AM
Condi always struck me as an incredibly intelligent woman who let her affection for GWB cloud her judgement.
 
2014-01-26 09:58:46 AM
Those potential candidates are FAR too liberal to ever deliver the true conservative message that Americans are waiting for. Damn RINOs
 
2014-01-26 09:59:26 AM

Dinki: Condi always struck me as an incredibly intelligent woman who let her affection for GWB cloud her judgement.


Daddy
 
2014-01-26 10:26:42 AM
Huh. Wonder who the six names are who aren't on the vote page -- there are gaps on 3 different rows with 2 vote buttons missing on each.
 
2014-01-26 10:30:20 AM
I think theocon, jingocon, and xenocon are more catchy than "big government Bible Thumpers", "neoconservatives", and "whack-a-doodles".

Also, it looks like the author left out the "cheap labor conservatives" aka moneycons, or possibly just lumped them in with the jingocons.
 
2014-01-26 10:35:43 AM
That list is pathetically funny, so how did they not include Louie Gohmert?
 
2014-01-26 10:37:08 AM
You do realize that if the Republicans manage to hack up someone with a moderate degree of charisma, we could all very easily be f*cked.
 
2014-01-26 10:38:24 AM
I wonder if Newt is going to be selling a book in 2016.
 
2014-01-26 10:38:30 AM
In an effort to create a Voltron of derp, I voted for Palin, West and Cruz.
 
2014-01-26 10:39:01 AM
I have plenty of unused email accounts to for this poll, so, I chose...

Ted Cruz
Sarah Palin
Rick Santorum

/libbiest lib that ever libbed
 
2014-01-26 10:39:24 AM
I can still see the eraser marks on the web page where the former governor of Virginia was. Something happen?
 
2014-01-26 10:40:14 AM
Please be Palin, Please be Palin,  Please be Palin,  Please be Palin,  *reads article*


AWWWWWWWWwwwwwww.

/for the lolz
 
2014-01-26 10:41:37 AM
I was hoping it would ONLY be Palin is what I was referring to.

/because we're all so scared of a strong, indepen....hahahahhahahahhahahha. I couldn't finish it.
 
2014-01-26 10:43:15 AM
Hey.. to the new crop of trolls...

DId you know if you say Guillible really slowly it rhymes with orange?  Check it out.
 
2014-01-26 10:45:15 AM
Condi?  What would the tea party ever do?
 
2014-01-26 10:45:34 AM

suebhoney: I have plenty of unused email accounts to for this poll, so, I chose...

Ted Cruz
Sarah Palin
Rick Santorum

/libbiest lib that ever libbed


Democrats vote for the worst possible republicans in the primaries, republicans vote for the worst possible democrats, and we're left to choose from the worst possible candidates.  Yay!
 
2014-01-26 10:55:52 AM
FTFA: U.S. Sen. Kelly Ayotte (New Hampshire), former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, former pizza mogul and 2012 presidential candidate Herman Cain, neurosurgeon and author Ben Carson, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas), former Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, U.S. Rep. Peter King (New York), New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, U.S. Sen. Rand Paul (Kentucky), former U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, U.S. Sen. Rob Portman (Ohio), former Secretary of State Condi Rice, U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio (Florida), Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, U.S. Sen. Tim Scott (S.C.), U.S. Sen. John Thune (S.D.), Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and former U.S. Rep. Allen West (Florida).

Shiat...they're all the same person.
 
m00
2014-01-26 10:57:44 AM

markfara: You do realize that if the Republicans manage to hack up someone with a moderate degree of charisma, we could all very easily be f*cked.


Solution: don't run Hillary
 
2014-01-26 10:59:25 AM

utharda: Hey.. to the new crop of trolls...

DId you know if you say Guillible really slowly it rhymes with orange?  Check it out.


I wasn't going to try it because I was suspicious that you were playing a trick, but I did it and it worked. Thanks and sorry that I doubted you.
 
2014-01-26 11:01:27 AM

m00: markfara: You do realize that if the Republicans manage to hack up someone with a moderate degree of charisma, we could all very easily be f*cked.

Solution: don't run Hillary


Like republicans are ever going to win a national election again no matter who the dems run. Not enough old white people left.

After all the antibrown folk derp and pro-rape antihomogay of the last decade they are boned outside the rural hardcore derp areas. And their jerrymandering doesn't help during a presidential election
 
2014-01-26 11:01:27 AM

Manhigh: suebhoney: I have plenty of unused email accounts to for this poll, so, I chose...

Ted Cruz
Sarah Palin
Rick Santorum

/libbiest lib that ever libbed

Democrats vote for the worst possible republicans in the primaries, republicans vote for the worst possible democrats, and we're left to choose from the worst possible candidates.  Yay!


Except nobody really gives a shait about straw polls.
 
2014-01-26 11:03:21 AM

Manhigh: suebhoney: I have plenty of unused email accounts to for this poll, so, I chose...

Ted Cruz
Sarah Palin
Rick Santorum

/libbiest lib that ever libbed

Democrats vote for the worst possible republicans in the primaries, republicans vote for the worst possible democrats, and we're left to choose from the worst possible candidates.  Yay!


Open primaries are one of those ideas that sound great on paper, but don't work in real life.
 
2014-01-26 11:07:17 AM
I thought RON PAUL said that he wasn't going to run again if he didn't get the nomination in 2012.

Oh, that's right I forgot. Republicans are f'ing liars who never keep their promises.
 
2014-01-26 11:07:52 AM
Can we at least wait until after the midterms before the politics tab starts filling up with 2016 shiat?
 
2014-01-26 11:11:46 AM

clancifer: Paul/West 2016.  Do it Republicans! How could they ever lose???


One vote for that ticket is one too many.
 
2014-01-26 11:12:19 AM
Allen West is a pathetic clown - but do I believe we need someone with the discipline and leadership skills brought by military service, so I voted for Gen. Eric Republican.
 
2014-01-26 11:12:48 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Can we at least wait until after the midterms before the politics tab starts filling up with 2016 shiat?


You're lucky we're not talking about 2020.
 
2014-01-26 11:14:15 AM
Condi Rice is pro choice,which I think makes her a devil worshiping slut in Republicanland.
 
2014-01-26 11:15:42 AM
I voted for Sarah because with just a bit of encouragement she'll start making policy statements that sound like a playmate profile.  I want to be a vegetarian because I like children
 
2014-01-26 11:19:41 AM
whoever made that list must have just used a fox guest list. john bolton? allen west? they aren't in the running for dog catcher. sure west would like to be taken seriously but he couldn't even hang on to a house seat.
 
2014-01-26 11:24:23 AM

markfara: You do realize that if the Republicans manage to hack up someone with a moderate degree of charisma, we could all very easily be f*cked.


Maybe, but unlikely for several reasons. For one, a Republican with a moderate degree of charisma is a relative term. They'll still have odious beliefs that they don't realize how horrible they sound outside of the echo chamber. Think Mitt Romney's 47% comment or Huckabee's recent shiatty comments about women.

Then even assuming they somehow dredge up a candidate from the murky depths who is smart enough to parrot their amoral agenda without word-vomiting all over their own campaign you still have ALL THE OTHER REPUBLICANS. Someone is going to start talking about rape, or that minorities are lazy, or that poor people are all just irresponsible and deserve to be poor - you know, core GOP beliefs - and they'll ruin it for them anyway.

Not to say that I think everyone should just rest on their laurels and expect to win against them by doing nothing, au contraire. But with the demographic deathtrap the GOP has cornered themselves in to combined with their ever shiattier looking platform, high population of racists and vitriolic pundit industry they're going to have an extremely steep uphill battle for the foreseeable future. When farking TEXAS is slowly but surely turning purple you know they have a problem.
 
2014-01-26 11:31:15 AM
They couldn't vote for a Mormon so yeah, they'll naturally vote for brown person.
 
2014-01-26 11:31:29 AM

namatad: Dinki: Condi always struck me as an incredibly intelligent woman who let her affection for GWB cloud her judgement.

Daddy


Husband.
 
2014-01-26 11:33:05 AM

markfara: You do realize that if the Republicans manage to hack up someone with a moderate degree of charisma, we could all very easily be f*cked.


We survived Reagan. We'll, technically we're still surviving Reagan, sort of.
 
2014-01-26 11:41:49 AM

edmo: markfara: You do realize that if the Republicans manage to hack up someone with a moderate degree of charisma, we could all very easily be f*cked.

We survived Reagan. We'll, technically we're still surviving Reagan, sort of.


Well put.
 
2014-01-26 11:58:07 AM
Chris Christie / Rand Paul 2016
 
2014-01-26 12:00:11 PM
I guess we now know what happens when you scrape the bottom of the barrel so often that you make a hole in it.
 
2014-01-26 12:20:22 PM
Where are Jon Hunstman and Gary Johnson?
 
2014-01-26 12:20:58 PM

suebhoney: I have plenty of unused email accounts to for this poll, so, I chose...

Ted Cruz
Sarah Palin
Rick Santorum

/libbiest lib that ever libbed



That's exactly the three nutjobs I picked too.
 
2014-01-26 12:30:33 PM

Dinki: Condi always struck me as an incredibly intelligent woman who let her affection for GWB cloud her judgement.


Also, FFS - one of these things is not at all like the others. While Condi isn't my first choice for anything, she could be put in charge of something important without my waking up in a cold sweat thinking about it.
She is, at least, a vaguely responsible human being of at least slightly above average intelligence.
And those two things alone put her in a different dimension than those other two assholes.
 
2014-01-26 12:30:54 PM
2 out of three of those are black. Clearly, the GOP isn't racist.
 
x23
2014-01-26 12:33:59 PM
The RNC presidential straw poll is here,featuring the fresh, new voices and rising stars of the Republican party such as: Condi Rice, noted war criminal Allen West, and of course, RON PAUL

fixed. you forgot a key always-needed phrase in there.
 
2014-01-26 12:34:17 PM

jso2897: Dinki: Condi always struck me as an incredibly intelligent woman who let her affection for GWB cloud her judgement.

Also, FFS - one of these things is not at all like the others. While Condi isn't my first choice for anything, she could be put in charge of something important without my waking up in a cold sweat thinking about it.
She is, at least, a vaguely responsible human being of at least slightly above average intelligence.
And those two things alone put her in a different dimension than those other two assholes.


Her "mushroom cloud" statement will disqualify Rice from ever holding elected office.
 
2014-01-26 12:37:42 PM

utharda: Hey to the new crop of trolls...did you know if you say guillible really slowly it rhymes with orange? Check it out.


That's a trick because nothing troll-y rhymes with orange.  Except potato.

/studied it out
 
2014-01-26 12:38:08 PM

Notabunny: jso2897: Dinki: Condi always struck me as an incredibly intelligent woman who let her affection for GWB cloud her judgement.

Also, FFS - one of these things is not at all like the others. While Condi isn't my first choice for anything, she could be put in charge of something important without my waking up in a cold sweat thinking about it.
She is, at least, a vaguely responsible human being of at least slightly above average intelligence.
And those two things alone put her in a different dimension than those other two assholes.

Her "mushroom cloud" statement will disqualify Rice from ever holding elected office.


I'd never vote for Ahnold again either - but I wouldn't toss him in the same bucket as those two losers.
I'm just saying, is all.
 
x23
2014-01-26 12:38:19 PM

shastacola: Condi Rice is pro choice,which I think makes her a devil worshiping slut in Republicanland.


preeeeetty sure she is a "confirmed bachelorette" if you know what i'm saying. you know... like "has a roommate".
 
2014-01-26 12:46:01 PM

x23: shastacola: Condi Rice is pro choice,which I think makes her a devil worshiping slut in Republicanland.

preeeeetty sure she is a "confirmed bachelorette" if you know what i'm saying. you know... like "has a roommate".


She has the taint of Bush about her, that's for sure.
 
2014-01-26 12:59:04 PM

Doktor_Zhivago: Like republicans are ever going to win a national election again no matter who the dems run. Not enough old white people left.


mongbiohazard: Maybe, but unlikely for several reasons. For one, a Republican with a moderate degree of charisma is a relative term. They'll still have odious beliefs that they don't realize how horrible they sound outside of the echo chamber. Think Mitt Romney's 47% comment or Huckabee's recent shiatty comments about women.


Spoken like folks who don't remember the Brown/Coakley fiasco.

Remember that these days, a statistically significant number of voters are not merely stupid, but blindly, willfully, and incandescently so. Furthermore, while both sides are willing and able to capitalize on the mistakes of the other side, we have one side in particular that's demonstrated a willingness and some small talent at  manufacturing gaffes and pinning them on their opposition. The targets lose points in the polls for doing dumb things they should have known better than doing, even if they did know better and didn't do them.

Yes, it amounts to winning through cheating, but in certain peoples' books, all's fair in love and war. And it's a  kind of winning, and that's all that matters.
 
2014-01-26 01:01:07 PM
Condi is too close to Bush. I don't know if Republicans will be able to mention his name by 2016. Bush Sr. needs to pass away, so people can remember "good"  Bush.
 
2014-01-26 01:18:31 PM

Devo: Condi is too close to Bush. I don't know if Republicans will be able to mention his name by 2016. Bush Sr. needs to pass away, so people can remember "good"  Bush.


It was supposed to have been Jeb's turn. It's not too late.
 
2014-01-26 01:22:14 PM

x23: The RNC presidential straw poll is here,featuring the fresh, new voices and rising stars of the Republican party such as: Condi Rice, noted war criminal Allen West, and of course, RON PAUL

fixed. you forgot a key always-needed phrase in there.


Rice is a war criminal as well - among other things, she was in charge of setting  up the official government torture program.  Seriously.
 
2014-01-26 01:24:03 PM

x23: shastacola: Condi Rice is pro choice,which I think makes her a devil worshiping slut in Republicanland.

preeeeetty sure she is a "confirmed bachelorette" if you know what i'm saying. you know... like "has a roommate".


I wonder if she likes some white on rice.

/Got nuthin'
 
2014-01-26 01:26:07 PM

Devo: Condi is too close to Bush. I don't know if Republicans will be able to mention his name by 2016. Bush Sr. needs to pass away, so people can remember "good"  Bush.


The lesbian rumors will kill her chances in the Bible Belt primaries.
 
2014-01-26 01:28:37 PM
I heard on NPR this morning that Senator McCain had been branded as a liberal by the Arizona GOP.  It reminded of shooting a hole in the bottom of a boat while trying to kill a "snake."  Which turns out to be a fuel line...
 
2014-01-26 01:28:38 PM
Wow. The Republicans are splintering like the Whigs or the Democrats after the Civil War. Well, hopefully.
I think we should create a joke candidate that's the most insanely right wing person conceivable and field him as a candidate. Got any ideas for a platform?
 
2014-01-26 01:29:44 PM

TV's Vinnie: I thought RON PAUL said that he wasn't going to run again if he didn't get the nomination in 2012.

Oh, that's right I forgot. Republicans are f'ing liars who never keep their promises.


That's not a list of people who've said they're running, right?
 
2014-01-26 01:29:55 PM

Dinki: Condi always struck me as an incredibly intelligent woman who let her affection for GWB cloud her judgement.



While Bush had the character to convincingly sell the idea of "knowing nuthin'" about the impending 9/11 attack, Condi was given every urgent memo relating to the plans of al Quaida, with specifics like "training at flight schools" "teams now in the country" and "airliner hijackings for suicide missions" along with mentions of the WTC as a target.

She knows she farked up and is just smart enough to know that she should leave it be.
 
2014-01-26 01:36:39 PM

Richard C Stanford: Wow. The Republicans are splintering like the Whigs or the Democrats after the Civil War. Well, hopefully.
I think we should create a joke candidate that's the most insanely right wing person conceivable and field him as a candidate. Got any ideas for a platform?


The Republicans beat you to it.  Ted Cruz is already running.
 
2014-01-26 01:37:30 PM
So, a former National Security Adviser who had the greatest national security failure since Pearl Harbor on her watch, and who has never held elected office.

A guy who was thrown out of the Army in disgrace, held one term in Congress and lost his re-election bid, and was fired from his most recent civilian job for making anti-Semitic slurs to a Jewish co-worker.

...and RON PAUL.
 
2014-01-26 01:38:59 PM
Condi has publicly supported gay marriage. Add that to the rumors surrounding her own sexuality and you can see she will never, ever make it past the fundies
 
2014-01-26 01:40:24 PM

Richard C Stanford: Wow. The Republicans are splintering like the Whigs or the Democrats after the Civil War. Well, hopefully.
I think we should create a joke candidate that's the most insanely right wing person conceivable and field him as a candidate. Got any ideas for a platform?


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2014-01-26 01:43:04 PM
I don't really see a chance in hell of Condoleezza Rice ever running for office. She hates answering questions, best I can recollect from any of her committee appearances before Congress. She gets flustered and aggravated in those situations. She's a wonk but without very many of the glad handing skills or inclinations of a Bill Clinton,* say.

*I mean that strictly in the political, non-innuendo sense, okay?
 
2014-01-26 01:50:46 PM

Richard C Stanford: Wow. The Republicans are splintering like the Whigs or the Democrats after the Civil War. Well, hopefully.
I think we should create a joke candidate that's the most insanely right wing person conceivable and field him as a candidate. Got any ideas for a platform?


CSB:  I saw a guy wearing a "Ted Nugent for President, 2016" shirt last summer.  It was the same colors and theme as the "Hope" shirt sold by Obama during the 2008 election cycle.  Of course, this guy was at the country music stage at Taste of Madison, drunk as sh*t, and it wasn't even 2PM yet.

Nugent would be a hoot.
 
2014-01-26 01:58:24 PM
 Don't forget the Canadian who wants to turn the U.S. into a christian theocracy.
 
2014-01-26 02:21:25 PM

jso2897: Dinki: Condi always struck me as an incredibly intelligent woman who let her affection for GWB cloud her judgement.

Also, FFS - one of these things is not at all like the others. While Condi isn't my first choice for anything, she could be put in charge of something important without my waking up in a cold sweat thinking about it.
She is, at least, a vaguely responsible human being of at least slightly above average intelligence.
And those two things alone put her in a different dimension than those other two assholes.


That "I'll only talk with you for one hour and basically filibuster the whole time" crap she pulled during the 911 hearings basically put her off of my list.
 
2014-01-26 02:23:38 PM
I suspect this is just a mass solicitation for email addresses, because those candidates are a farking joke.

I'm tempted to create a couple throwaways, just to vote for Sarah Palin and Herman Cain, lol.
 
2014-01-26 02:28:19 PM

Manhigh: suebhoney: I have plenty of unused email accounts to for this poll, so, I chose...

Ted Cruz
Sarah Palin
Rick Santorum

/libbiest lib that ever libbed

Democrats vote for the worst possible republicans in the primaries, republicans vote for the worst possible democrats, and we're left to choose from the worst possible candidates.  Yay!


I've never seen a straw poll from the Democrats.  How would you have any idea?

Awwww, my lulz offended your butthurt and the idea of BSABSVR.
 
2014-01-26 02:50:34 PM

jake_lex: Manhigh: suebhoney: I have plenty of unused email accounts to for this poll, so, I chose...

Ted Cruz
Sarah Palin
Rick Santorum

/libbiest lib that ever libbed

Democrats vote for the worst possible republicans in the primaries, republicans vote for the worst possible democrats, and we're left to choose from the worst possible candidates.  Yay!

Open primaries are one of those ideas that sound great on paper, but don't work in real life.


Red state lib here, and I object. I have to vote in Republican primaries if I want a say in local and state representatives.

I vote for the lesser of the evils because anyone who deliberately votes for the worst possible candidate is part of the problem.
 
2014-01-26 02:56:00 PM
Speaking of fresh, new voices, I caught a glimpse of some talking-head show this morning and I couldn't believe someone paid Rick Santorum to appear as the voice of the Republican Party. Of course, he was up against Van Jones as the representative Democrat, so it was like a cavalcade of stupid, but Rick Santorum? Really?
 
2014-01-26 02:58:13 PM
The RNC presidential straw poll is here,featuring the fresh, new voices and rising stars of the Republican party such as: Condi Rice, Allen West, and of course, RON PAUL

i759.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-26 02:59:16 PM
I will not have the achievements of Allen West disparaged in this way. Please give him his proper title: Allen West, war criminal. He earned it.
 
2014-01-26 03:01:26 PM

Sgt Otter: So, a former National Security Adviser who had the greatest national security failure since Pearl Harbor on her watch, and who has never held elected office.

A guy who was thrown out of the Army in disgrace, held one term in Congress and lost his re-election bid, and was fired from his most recent civilian job for making anti-Semitic slurs to a Jewish co-worker.

...and RON PAUL.


You have to admit...it's a winning combination.
 
2014-01-26 03:05:57 PM
Finally, we have the so-called "whack-a-doodles" - fiscally conservative, pro-free market, pro-liberty voters who for the most part have aligned themselves with the Tea Party movement,

That word ... I don't think they mean ...

No wait, let me edit.

Finally, we have the so-called "whack-a-doodles" - fiscally conservative, pro-free market, pro-liberty voters who for the most part have aligned themselves with the Tea Party movement,

Those words ...
 
2014-01-26 03:29:28 PM

Manhigh: suebhoney: I have plenty of unused email accounts to for this poll, so, I chose...

Ted Cruz
Sarah Palin
Rick Santorum

/libbiest lib that ever libbed

Democrats vote for the worst possible republicans in the primaries, republicans vote for the worst possible democrats, and we're left to choose from the worst possible candidates.  Yay!


Because both parties are dominated by crossover voters in the primaries.  Oh wait, I meant the opposite of that.
 
2014-01-26 03:29:42 PM

theorellior: Speaking of fresh, new voices, I caught a glimpse of some talking-head show this morning and I couldn't believe someone paid Rick Santorum to appear as the voice of the Republican Party. Of course, he was up against Van Jones as the representative Democrat, so it was like a cavalcade of stupid, but Rick Santorum? Really?


Did you really expect better than this?  Talking-heads shows served only to entertain and what is more entertaining than the nonsensical ravings of Rick Santorum and Van Jones?  There is nothing substantive on these shows anymore.  It's the journalistic equivalent of WWF.
 
2014-01-26 03:29:44 PM
Dr. Rice is the obvious choice for 2016, especially if the Democrats run Hillary. They desperately need a candidate who is intelligent, charismatic, moderate, knowledgeable in foreign policy, well-known, highly respected, and can take both California and the South. She's a Presbyterian minister's daughter, came from Alabama and is a professor at Stanford. Any rumors about her private life will make little difference. Her "pro-choice" stand is carefully modulated. Even liberals will trust her not to do something stupid.

Let's face it, Condi's the best choice they have, and they know it. She's not a xenophobe, she's not a Christian zealot, she's not an imperialist. When Bush said he was going to attack Iran--yes, Iran--she threatened to resign unless he got Congress's approval. She stopped him from sending troops into Africa. She can split the women's vote and at least some of the black vote. I take it the African-American community is not swooning over Hillary. The single hardest thing the GOP has in this regard is talking her into running. At this point, they should be prepared to beg her. Frankly, she is so far above the others, it is difficult for me to decide who is worthy of being her VP candidate for the ticket.
 
2014-01-26 03:30:09 PM
the Tea Party ... cropped up in 2009 in response to the initial overreaches of the administration of Barack Obama.

What? No. Fox News cropped it up in response to a black Democrat getting elected president.

Initial overreaches. Like what, exactly? Giving morons equal time is not the same as being unbiased.
 
2014-01-26 03:30:40 PM

dericwater: x23: shastacola: Condi Rice is pro choice,which I think makes her a devil worshiping slut in Republicanland.

preeeeetty sure she is a "confirmed bachelorette" if you know what i'm saying. you know... like "has a roommate".

I wonder if she likes some white on rice.

/Got nuthin'


You know who ELSE . . .


mrsgrapevine.com
 
2014-01-26 03:35:16 PM

Close2TheEdge: Did you really expect better than this? Talking-heads shows served only to entertain and what is more entertaining than the nonsensical ravings of Rick Santorum and Van Jones? There is nothing substantive on these shows anymore. It's the journalistic equivalent of WWF.


I know, I know. I'm nothing but an idealistic fool.
 
2014-01-26 03:43:42 PM
Condi?

She's:

A) Black.
B) A black woman.
C) A moderate that isn't a member of the tea party. (RINO!)
D) Affiliated with the Bush Administration

Snowballs chance in hell.
 
2014-01-26 03:48:26 PM

GentlemanJ: Dr. Rice is the obvious choice for 2016, especially if the Democrats run Hillary. They desperately need a candidate who is intelligent, charismatic, moderate, knowledgeable in foreign policy, well-known, highly respected, and can take both California and the South. She's a Presbyterian minister's daughter, came from Alabama and is a professor at Stanford. Any rumors about her private life will make little difference. Her "pro-choice" stand is carefully modulated. Even liberals will trust her not to do something stupid.

Let's face it, Condi's the best choice they have, and they know it. She's not a xenophobe, she's not a Christian zealot, she's not an imperialist. When Bush said he was going to attack Iran--yes, Iran--she threatened to resign unless he got Congress's approval. She stopped him from sending troops into Africa. She can split the women's vote and at least some of the black vote. I take it the African-American community is not swooning over Hillary. The single hardest thing the GOP has in this regard is talking her into running. At this point, they should be prepared to beg her. Frankly, she is so far above the others, it is difficult for me to decide who is worthy of being her VP candidate for the ticket.


If she runs, Hillary, with her intimate knowledge of what went down in the State Department, will take down Condi so fast that outcome will be determined after the first 15 minutes of the first debate.
 
2014-01-26 03:50:27 PM

dericwater: GentlemanJ: Dr. Rice is the obvious choice for 2016, especially if the Democrats run Hillary. They desperately need a candidate who is intelligent, charismatic, moderate, knowledgeable in foreign policy, well-known, highly respected, and can take both California and the South. She's a Presbyterian minister's daughter, came from Alabama and is a professor at Stanford. Any rumors about her private life will make little difference. Her "pro-choice" stand is carefully modulated. Even liberals will trust her not to do something stupid.

Let's face it, Condi's the best choice they have, and they know it. She's not a xenophobe, she's not a Christian zealot, she's not an imperialist. When Bush said he was going to attack Iran--yes, Iran--she threatened to resign unless he got Congress's approval. She stopped him from sending troops into Africa. She can split the women's vote and at least some of the black vote. I take it the African-American community is not swooning over Hillary. The single hardest thing the GOP has in this regard is talking her into running. At this point, they should be prepared to beg her. Frankly, she is so far above the others, it is difficult for me to decide who is worthy of being her VP candidate for the ticket.

If she runs, Hillary, with her intimate knowledge of what went down in the State Department, will take down Condi so fast that outcome will be determined after the first 15 minutes of the first debate.


All Hillary has to say is, "I came into the State Department following Ms Rice's tenure. I know exactly what occurred there and it took me all of four years to repair..."
 
2014-01-26 03:50:57 PM

GentlemanJ: Dr. Rice is the obvious choice for 2016, especially if the Democrats run Hillary. They desperately need a candidate who is intelligent, charismatic, moderate, knowledgeable in foreign policy, well-known, highly respected, and can take both California and the South. She's a Presbyterian minister's daughter, came from Alabama and is a professor at Stanford. Any rumors about her private life will make little difference. Her "pro-choice" stand is carefully modulated. Even liberals will trust her not to do something stupid.

Let's face it, Condi's the best choice they have, and they know it. She's not a xenophobe, she's not a Christian zealot, she's not an imperialist. When Bush said he was going to attack Iran--yes, Iran--she threatened to resign unless he got Congress's approval. She stopped him from sending troops into Africa. She can split the women's vote and at least some of the black vote. I take it the African-American community is not swooning over Hillary. The single hardest thing the GOP has in this regard is talking her into running. At this point, they should be prepared to beg her. Frankly, she is so far above the others, it is difficult for me to decide who is worthy of being her VP candidate for the ticket.


All the intellect in the world could never wipe the taint of the Bush administration and Iraq off her record. She could have resigned, but she chose to go along with it.

Condi is dead in the water.
 
2014-01-26 03:53:15 PM
Until the far-right derpster crowd are marginalized and pulled from the positions of power within the GOP, they'll never win another election for the WH.

Whoever gets the DNC nod for the nomination will be the next President, I'm calling it now.

That's assuming the GOP doesn't get the derp crowd under control before 2016.
 
2014-01-26 04:04:42 PM
I'd sooner vote for Jesse Ventura.
 
2014-01-26 04:08:01 PM

Crabs_Can_Polevault: Spoken like folks who don't remember the Brown/Coakley fiasco.


Did you even read my post? I do remember it, it's just that the odds against it are greater every year. Sure, there's going to be an outlier here and there, but on the whole the GOP is facing an uphill battle and they're increasingly digging in and ensuring that they do not shift the odds in their favor. That doesn't mean that everyone else should rest on their laurels, on the contrary it means that NOW is the time when you put in maximum effort as now - and going forward - is when you can bury them for good.

Make their losses more devastating, and make them even more increasingly desperate... They'll make even more mistakes and dig their own graves even faster.
 
2014-01-26 04:22:03 PM
As a lifelong independent, there is nothing the Republicans can do to convince me that they have America's best interest at heart and as a consequence no way to earn my vote.

My votes will go for the Democratic party candidates. While definitely a flawed party, at least they're trying to do some good and not just trying to fark everyone over who isn't a Democrat. Also is not a 3rd party that has a better chance to keep the Republicans out of office than the Democrats so none of my national/state level votes will go toward 3rd party candidates either. 3rd party candidates might earn votes for me on a local level. Republicans still have no chance to earn my vote even on the local level.
 
2014-01-26 04:26:11 PM

JohnnyC: As a lifelong independent, there is nothing the Republicans can do to convince me that they have America's best interest at heart and as a consequence no way to earn my vote.

My votes will go for the Democratic party candidates. While definitely a flawed party, at least they're trying to do some good and not just trying to fark everyone over who isn't a Democrat. Also is not a 3rd party that has a better chance to keep the Republicans out of office than the Democrats so none of my national/state level votes will go toward 3rd party candidates either. 3rd party candidates might earn votes for me on a local level. Republicans still have no chance to earn my vote even on the local level.



Pretty much sums up my attitude too, and I was a registered republican for 20+ years. I finally registered as an independent in late 2012, and I won't be voting for a republican for a long, long, long goddamn time.
 
2014-01-26 04:34:18 PM

GentlemanJ: Dr. Rice is the obvious choice for 2016, especially if the Democrats run Hillary. They desperately need a candidate who is intelligent, charismatic, moderate, knowledgeable in foreign policy, well-known, highly respected, and can take both California and the South. She's a Presbyterian minister's daughter, came from Alabama and is a professor at Stanford. Any rumors about her private life will make little difference. Her "pro-choice" stand is carefully modulated. Even liberals will trust her not to do something stupid.

Let's face it, Condi's the best choice they have, and they know it. She's not a xenophobe, she's not a Christian zealot, she's not an imperialist. When Bush said he was going to attack Iran--yes, Iran--she threatened to resign unless he got Congress's approval. She stopped him from sending troops into Africa. She can split the women's vote and at least some of the black vote. I take it the African-American community is not swooning over Hillary. The single hardest thing the GOP has in this regard is talking her into running. At this point, they should be prepared to beg her. Frankly, she is so far above the others, it is difficult for me to decide who is worthy of being her VP candidate for the ticket.


California? Maybe in the primary.
 
2014-01-26 04:37:16 PM
The 3 candidates I selected were:

Rick Perry

Sarah Palin

What's the third one there? Let's see...   I would go with Perry, Palin, and, let's see. I can't. The third one, I can't. Sorry. Oops.
 
2014-01-26 04:42:53 PM

hardinparamedic: Condi?

She's:

A) Black.
B) A black woman.
C) A moderate that isn't a member of the tea party. (RINO!)
D) Affiliated with the Bush Administration

Snowballs chance in hell.


E) An unmarried Republican woman with a female "roommate."

A few push-polls and whisper campaigns in the primaries, and she's toast among social conservatives.
 
2014-01-26 04:45:37 PM
Wow, look at all the 'black friends' they have! I'm surprised they're not also running Alan Keyes.
 
2014-01-26 04:52:34 PM

Pauly Math: x23: shastacola: Condi Rice is pro choice,which I think makes her a devil worshiping slut in Republicanland.

preeeeetty sure she is a "confirmed bachelorette" if you know what i'm saying. you know... like "has a roommate".

She has the taint of Bush about her, that's for sure.


You are awesome.
 
2014-01-26 04:54:48 PM

Notabunny: Richard C Stanford: Wow. The Republicans are splintering like the Whigs or the Democrats after the Civil War. Well, hopefully.
I think we should create a joke candidate that's the most insanely right wing person conceivable and field him as a candidate. Got any ideas for a platform?

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Seven jokes out of eight ain't bad.
 
2014-01-26 05:19:41 PM
I want them to run Walker. Mainly so that we will be rid of him here in Wisconsin, but also for the lols, he has so many skeletons in the closet it would provide almost unlimited amusement. Plus he is so photogenic. Did you know that they forbit cameras at angles that might catch his bald spot?
 
2014-01-26 07:00:18 PM

KarmicDisaster: I want them to run Walker. Mainly so that we will be rid of him here in Wisconsin, but also for the lols, he has so many skeletons in the closet it would provide almost unlimited amusement. Plus he is so photogenic. Did you know that they forbit cameras at angles that might catch his bald spot?


They do allow them to a certain angle, but they must be far below him so you can't see his bald spot.  It's kinda pathetic.  A significant percentage of men his age have less hair than him, with far less stressful job histories, and most show some amount of hair loss/thinning, yet he's worried someone will see his bald spot.
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2014-01-26 07:12:26 PM

mongbiohazard: Crabs_Can_Polevault: Spoken like folks who don't remember the Brown/Coakley fiasco.

Did you even read my post? I do remember it, it's just that the odds against it are greater every year. Sure, there's going to be an outlier here and there, but on the whole the GOP is facing an uphill battle and they're increasingly digging in and ensuring that they do not shift the odds in their favor. That doesn't mean that everyone else should rest on their laurels, on the contrary it means that NOW is the time when you put in maximum effort as now - and going forward - is when you can bury them for good.

Make their losses more devastating, and make them even more increasingly desperate... They'll make even more mistakes and dig their own graves even faster.


I did read it. But I have  that little faith in humanity at this point. It's never a question of "when will they finally admit defeat?" It's a question of "what will they do to avoid that defeat this time?"
 
2014-01-26 07:39:15 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: They do allow them to a certain angle, but they must be far below him so you can't see his bald spot. It's kinda pathetic. A significant percentage of men his age have less hair than him, with far less stressful job histories, and most show some amount of hair loss/thinning, yet he's worried someone will see his bald spot.


It's like the inverse Myspace angle.
 
2014-01-26 07:47:38 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: the Tea Party ... cropped up in 2009 in response to the initial overreaches of the administration of Barack Obama.

What? No. Fox News cropped it up in response to a black Democrat getting elected president.

Initial overreaches. Like what, exactly? Giving morons equal time is not the same as being unbiased.


Yeah, actually the Tea Party did organize under Bush and was legitimately about too-much-taxation issues.  Then a month or two later B-Rock started making headway as the Dem frontrunner and they lost their damn minds.  But at the very, very, very beginning; they were legit.
 
2014-01-26 08:34:52 PM

GentlemanJ: Dr. Rice is the obvious choice for 2016, especially if the Democrats run Hillary. They desperately need a candidate who is intelligent, charismatic, moderate, knowledgeable in foreign policy, well-known, highly respected, and can take both California and the South. She's a Presbyterian minister's daughter, came from Alabama and is a professor at Stanford. Any rumors about her private life will make little difference. Her "pro-choice" stand is carefully modulated. Even liberals will trust her not to do something stupid.

Let's face it, Condi's the best choice they have, and they know it. She's not a xenophobe, she's not a Christian zealot, she's not an imperialist. When Bush said he was going to attack Iran--yes, Iran--she threatened to resign unless he got Congress's approval. She stopped him from sending troops into Africa. She can split the women's vote and at least some of the black vote. I take it the African-American community is not swooning over Hillary. The single hardest thing the GOP has in this regard is talking her into running. At this point, they should be prepared to beg her. Frankly, she is so far above the others, it is difficult for me to decide who is worthy of being her VP candidate for the ticket.


Which is why she won't be run. Because the conservatives are blaming the 2012 loss on "not appealing to their base", and won't field a political moderate, but a batshiat crazy wack-a-doodle who will "fire up the base" and alienate everyone else. The smart republicans probably realize this...
 
2014-01-26 09:10:57 PM

Dinki: Condi always struck me as an incredibly intelligent woman who let her affection for GWB cloud her judgement.


A lot of people in the W's administration were smart, the problem is that they all ranged from "has his own agenda" to actually being outright political enemies, and W had neither the skill nor the force of personality to keep them in line.

That's actually a large portion of why both his terms were such a clusterfark, had his administration been filled with people on the same level he was he'd probably have made an ineffective symbolic gesture regarding terrorism like everyone else before had (plus some more specific revenge on OBL like an assassination) and then gone back to making education his primary purpose, instead of giving us one point five superfluous wars and a new defense department entirely dedicated to kabuki theater.
 
2014-01-26 09:22:39 PM

Jim_Callahan: Dinki: Condi always struck me as an incredibly intelligent woman who let her affection for GWB cloud her judgement.

A lot of people in the W's administration were smart, the problem is that they all ranged from "has his own agenda" to actually being outright political enemies, and W had neither the skill nor the force of personality to keep them in line.

That's actually a large portion of why both his terms were such a clusterfark, had his administration been filled with people on the same level he was he'd probably have made an ineffective symbolic gesture regarding terrorism like everyone else before had (plus some more specific revenge on OBL like an assassination) and then gone back to making education his primary purpose, instead of giving us one point five superfluous wars and a new defense department entirely dedicated to kabuki theater.


Why do you imagine that alone of all W's cabinet. Condi was invited to speak at the 2012 Convention? Did you see the response she got? And she will be addressing the fundraiser in California this March. They're giving her a test drive, and I imagine that they will like what they see. She's extremely popular among the GOP, and while I see that few people in this thread like her (but when have many Farkers liked Republican candidates?), I believe that she's a winning choice against Hillary. Surely you don't imagine that Hillary is some sort of a goddess, do you?
 
2014-01-26 09:30:00 PM
Ron Paul has been winning straw polls since '08 and the establishment still hates him.

Rand Paul maybe, but not Ron.
 
2014-01-26 09:59:00 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: KarmicDisaster: I want them to run Walker. Mainly so that we will be rid of him here in Wisconsin, but also for the lols, he has so many skeletons in the closet it would provide almost unlimited amusement. Plus he is so photogenic. Did you know that they forbit cameras at angles that might catch his bald spot?

They do allow them to a certain angle, but they must be far below him so you can't see his bald spot.  It's kinda pathetic.  A significant percentage of men his age have less hair than him, with far less stressful job histories, and most show some amount of hair loss/thinning, yet he's worried someone will see his bald spot.
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And of course by "forbit" I  meant "forbid"

turns out that Walker's bald spot has it's own FB pages, for example see https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=2011095289214
 
2014-01-26 11:01:36 PM

Dinki: Condi always struck me as an incredibly intelligent woman who let her affection for GWB cloud her judgement.


Plus, she MIGHT be a lesbian - at least according to several rumors. That would pretty much eliminate her from the GOP field.
 
2014-01-26 11:08:18 PM
Condi is the bleck.

After eight years of the bleck, there's no way the Gop rank and file vote for the bleck.  That would be the worst thing ever.
 
2014-01-27 12:05:25 AM
*clicks on article and reads list*

So... they got nothing? Again?

Good luck with that.

GentlemanJim: Dr. Rice is the obvious choice for 2016, especially if the Democrats run Hillary.

[hahaohwow]

Condi was at best ineffectual at her job in the Bush WH at worst she was blatantly incompetent and arguably a war criminal.

She's also a woman. One who's black and is rumored to be a closeted lesbian.

She doesn't want to run, doesn't have the political chops to survive a national campaign and in no way shape or form would she be able to woo the GOP fundie base during the herp-a-derpfest that is the GOP nomination process.

The GOP are floating her name now but it will come to naught when campaigning begins in earnest.

It will come down to RAND PAUL, Ted Cruz and Santorum in the end and no matter who gets the nod they will lose in the general to Hillary or whoever.

Should I have prefaced all that with a *spoiler alert*?
 
2014-01-27 12:40:02 AM
Cruz and Santorum are clowns. Christie is done. My money is on Rubio or Ryan. Of the two, Rubio scares me less. He doesn't strike me as a completely clueless self-absorbed jackass.

I'm not saying that there's a single thing I agree with Rubio on (apart from possibly immigration) but at least I haven't heard him tell me how you can help the unemployed find a job by starving them. So, perhaps he isn't a selfish psychopath, maybe?
 
2014-01-27 01:33:24 AM

KarmicDisaster: turns out that Walker's bald spot has it's own FB pages, for example see I am Gov. Walker's shiny bald spot

OK now, that is funny right there.
 
2014-01-27 12:18:20 PM
I'm starting to think Kelly Ayotte will be the token female candidate.

Also, Ron Paul isn't running again. He's retired. They probably just included his name to avoid a bunch of biatching about excluding him. Dude will be 81 years old on Inauguration Day.

/Gary Johnson, on the other hand, almost certainly will be the Libertarian candidate again
 
2014-01-27 10:30:36 PM

Churchill2004: I'm starting to think Kelly Ayotte will be the token female candidate.

Also, Ron Paul isn't running again. He's retired. They probably just included his name to avoid a bunch of biatching about excluding him. Dude will be 81 years old on Inauguration Day.

/Gary Johnson, on the other hand, almost certainly will be the Libertarian candidate again


I wonder if he'll debate a comedian dressed up as Hillary Clinton on the Fox Business Channel . . .
 
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