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(Spaceflight Now)   Happy Birthday to the Opportunity rover. It was designed to work for 90 days on the surface of Mars, and just hit the 10 year mark, still sending back valuable science data   (spaceflightnow.com) divider line 53
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2014-01-25 09:45:12 PM
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2014-01-25 09:46:08 PM
Give that robot a doughnut!
 
2014-01-25 09:47:57 PM
Science data?
 
2014-01-25 09:56:59 PM
And some people said NASA were suckers for buying that extended warranty thing.
 
2014-01-25 10:04:44 PM
In other news, the end may be near for China's moon rover the Jade Rabbit. Which has been on the moon a whole 42 days.
 
2014-01-25 10:09:17 PM
Send me back a jelly donut.
 
2014-01-25 10:10:18 PM
that's great and all but come on when i was a kid I figured we atleast have a big space station and a colony on the moon and maybe mars that you could go to... we got a remote controlled car instead.
 
2014-01-25 10:11:23 PM
Do why is it that we can build a robot that can run around a planet 56 million kilometers away for a decade but we can't build a car worth a fark or really anything that wasn't made with Chinese slave labor?
 
2014-01-25 10:32:53 PM

crypticsatellite: Science data?


It's different than the religious data.
 
2014-01-25 10:44:07 PM
I GIS "Opportunity rover funny" and ... got some strange pictures hating on Islam.

The hell?
 
2014-01-25 10:52:16 PM
And I can't get a computer to last more than 5?!?
 
2014-01-25 10:54:26 PM

Headso: that's great and all but come on when i was a kid I figured we atleast have a big space station and a colony on the moon and maybe mars that you could go to... we got a remote controlled car instead.


Well, we would of but the American public got bored of landing on the moon by Apollo 15. We sure love war though, yay war! Fark yeah!

6 trillion dollars spent on 8 to 11 years of war. Result: Iraq & Afghanistan aren't likely to be stable countries like ever. Moonbase? Too expensive, etc.
 
2014-01-25 11:32:38 PM
For mankind, 6 months to get there, 18 months for the planets to realign, 6 months back.

http://www.esquire.com/features/americans-2012/elon-musk-interview-1 21 2
 
2014-01-25 11:42:24 PM
I wonder what its wheels look like, Curiosity's are already looking rough.

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2014-01-25 11:49:01 PM

Mugato: Do why is it that we can build a robot that can run around a planet 56 million kilometers away for a decade but we can't build a car worth a fark or really anything that wasn't made with Chinese slave labor?


If you want to pay half a billion for a car that runs on nuclear power and goes about 1 mile an hour, I'm sure it can be arranged.
 
2014-01-26 02:58:02 AM

thisisyourbrainonFark: For mankind, 6 months to get there, 18 months for the planets to realign, 6 months back.

http://www.esquire.com/features/americans-2012/elon-musk-interview-1 21 2


Its a death trap, it's a suicide rap
 
2014-01-26 04:55:42 AM
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2014-01-26 05:13:48 AM

Headso: that's great and all but come on when i was a kid I figured we atleast have a big space station and a colony on the moon and maybe mars that you could go to... we got a remote controlled car instead.


You watched Space 1999 one too many times.
 
2014-01-26 05:27:20 AM

Harry_Seldon: [imgs.xkcd.com image 639x862]

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I've always enjoyed the crude update someone made the night Curiosity landed:

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2014-01-26 05:28:53 AM
Good boy, rover...good boy.

Let's put you to stud...you've shown good genes.
 
2014-01-26 05:41:35 AM
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SCIENCE!
/Can't even be bothered to GIS
 
2014-01-26 06:53:39 AM
Scientamalogical data information can only enhance our understanding of the, scientifical knowedge of the whole thing.     Yah.    Good work there, science-type guys, with all that scientificky stuff.
 
2014-01-26 07:04:30 AM

Hector Remarkable: Scientamalogical data information can only enhance our understanding of the, scientifical knowedge of the whole thing.     Yah.    Good work there, science-type guys, with all that scientificky stuff.


Sounds like the Sarah Palin keynote speech at MIT.
 
2014-01-26 07:50:52 AM

crypticsatellite: Science data?


You ever done some science, son? Well there's data, and lots of it.
 
2014-01-26 08:06:59 AM
It was not designed to last 90 days. It was designed to last years. The 90 days thing was a rare occurrence of NASA effectively managing expectations.

Having said that, I doubt even NASA optimists expected it to last ten years.

And man, does time fly when you get old.
 
2014-01-26 08:29:57 AM
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2014-01-26 08:30:01 AM
oi44.tinypic.com

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2014-01-26 08:32:50 AM

lifeboat: [oi39.tinypic.com image 639x1077]


(and, yeah - I know it was Spirit that got stuck)
 
2014-01-26 08:47:53 AM
It's a Marsnukkah miracle!

/the festival of flights
 
2014-01-26 08:57:44 AM
Yet another Bush era expedition with no withdrawl strategy.
 
2014-01-26 09:49:28 AM

Kibbler: It was not designed to last 90 days. It was designed to last years. The 90 days thing was a rare occurrence of NASA effectively managing expectations.

Having said that, I doubt even NASA optimists expected it to last ten years.

And man, does time fly when you get old.



I doubt they specifically built it to last years, more like they built it to be robust against the harsh environment that is Mars. It is true that the 90 days or so has nothing to do with the expected health of the vehicle.

It was simply a goal by which the mission could be measured towards success and a very doable one at that. Well, assuming you land on the planet safely.

After all if you're a planetary scientist you know budgets aren't unlimited, and that the possibly of a mission like Curiosity wont even be considered if you aren't by some measure successful.

Which brings me to the stupid "why didn't they put something on it to clear off the dust?" question. Well, if you have approval for a limited mission time frame on Mars. You design around that time frame so that you meet all your goals. Anything beyond that is extra.
 
2014-01-26 09:54:34 AM

crypticsatellite: Science data?


media.pcgamer.com


What science data may look like.
 
2014-01-26 10:11:12 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: And I can't get a computer to last more than 5?!?


The engineering mindset of building a laptop or building a mars rover are completely different. The first you are designing around the desire to profit in terms of money, which means technically speaking you want it to be replaceable. The more robust a computer you build, the more expensive its going to be to make and the less profit you're going to make in people buying new computers to replace the old computers. It'd be a terrible business model.

Designing a mars rover meanwhile, you hope to profit in terms of knowledge and thus aren't that concerned about money in comparison. Plus, you're only building one or two instead of millions. So whatever budget you have can be more concentrated on one or two rovers.

Or simply put, one is designed to last and the other is not. .
 
2014-01-26 11:20:40 AM

bbfreak: In other news, the end may be near for China's moon rover the Jade Rabbit. Which has been on the moon a whole 42 days.


It would be easy to insert the HAHA guy and make a joke about Chinese quality, but space exploration is hard.  Really, really hard.  Look up the Ranger program some time to see just how bad we were at it when we started.  Hopefully they'll figure out a fix and they can keep rolling.
 
2014-01-26 11:46:19 AM

wildcardjack: Yet another Bush era expedition with no withdrawl strategy.


Isn't it totally like NASA to use outdated technology way beyond it's end of life date?
 
2014-01-26 12:05:12 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: bbfreak: In other news, the end may be near for China's moon rover the Jade Rabbit. Which has been on the moon a whole 42 days.

It would be easy to insert the HAHA guy and make a joke about Chinese quality, but space exploration is hard.  Really, really hard.  Look up the Ranger program some time to see just how bad we were at it when we started.  Hopefully they'll figure out a fix and they can keep rolling.


Exactly... they're playing catch up, but they're catching up fast. That's hopefully a good thing, maybe the threat of China making inroads will convince the US to move some funding from the military over to NASA.
 
2014-01-26 12:07:05 PM

legion_of_doo: wildcardjack: Yet another Bush era expedition with no withdrawl strategy.

Isn't it totally like NASA to use outdated technology way beyond it's end of life date?


Sort of, sort of not. Space applications need hardware that can deal with the radiation without either scrambling or frying their circuits. Producing these parts takes a long time, and older, larger, simpler chips are easier to protect.
 
2014-01-26 12:09:17 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: bbfreak: In other news, the end may be near for China's moon rover the Jade Rabbit. Which has been on the moon a whole 42 days.

It would be easy to insert the HAHA guy and make a joke about Chinese quality, but space exploration is hard.  Really, really hard.  Look up the Ranger program some time to see just how bad we were at it when we started.  Hopefully they'll figure out a fix and they can keep rolling.


Nah its still made in China.  Every thing I've ever bought that said Made in China broke before the first year.   Sure we have failed in the past with our space program but the example you gave was from the 1960s.  You'd figure they would have learned from our mistake and also used 21st century technology to at least get 90 days out of it.  China a super power haha never.  They are just the worlds factory workers now.  Last thing they invented that the whole world uses is gun powered.  That was a long ass time ago too.
 
2014-01-26 12:26:12 PM

HooskerDoo: Hector Remarkable: Scientamalogical data information can only enhance our understanding of the, scientifical knowedge of the whole thing.     Yah.    Good work there, science-type guys, with all that scientificky stuff.

Sounds like the Sarah Palin keynote speech at MIT.


She dislikes science and education.

She would lecture them on why they should be plumbers, repairmen, or perform manual labor.
 
2014-01-26 01:23:48 PM

Harry_Seldon: [imgs.xkcd.com image 639x862]

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Already taken care of in the bewbs.
 
2014-01-26 03:13:23 PM

bbfreak: In other news, the end may be near for China's moon rover the Jade Rabbit. Which has been on the moon a whole 42 days.


Rovers on the Moon and on Mars are whole worlds apart (not intended). Moon dust interferes with the electronics and robotics of rovers, while the dust on Mars is mostly benign.

/I think, though I remember getting this fact from Fark.
 
2014-01-26 03:26:04 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: bbfreak: In other news, the end may be near for China's moon rover the Jade Rabbit. Which has been on the moon a whole 42 days.

It would be easy to insert the HAHA guy and make a joke about Chinese quality, but space exploration is hard.  Really, really hard.  Look up the Ranger program some time to see just how bad we were at it when we started.  Hopefully they'll figure out a fix and they can keep rolling.


My Dad worked on Ranger, Lunar Orbiter and Apollo (and a few other things he couldn't talk about) and you have to remember these things were "rocket science", it is easy to laugh at the failures but you have to realize they were trying things no one had attempted before.  Putting stuff into space is hard, and we just laugh at NASA for the failures but never remember the tremendous successes.  Even when a mission outlives its expectations when it "dies" it becomes another failure in too many peoples minds.
 
2014-01-26 03:38:04 PM

New Farkin User Name: bbfreak: In other news, the end may be near for China's moon rover the Jade Rabbit. Which has been on the moon a whole 42 days.

Rovers on the Moon and on Mars are whole worlds apart (not intended). Moon dust interferes with the electronics and robotics of rovers, while the dust on Mars is mostly benign.

/I think, though I remember getting this fact from Fark.


That's true, in many ways the environment on the moon is more extreme than what a rover would face on Mars. If only because on Mars there is a more consistent environment overall. Meanwhile on the moon you have extreme temperature swings, and yes the moon dust is a problem too. So yes, I'm not sure how possible a moon rover lasting up to 10 years would be. Probably not very at all.

Plus, there is always a chance your rover gets fried by a solar flare. Fun times.

A year is certainly doable though. the Russian's first lunar rover Lunokhod 1 lasted almost 10 month's. Lunokhod 2 lasted almost 4 months.

Glockenspiel Hero: bbfreak: In other news, the end may be near for China's moon rover the Jade Rabbit. Which has been on the moon a whole 42 days.

It would be easy to insert the HAHA guy and make a joke about Chinese quality, but space exploration is hard.  Really, really hard.  Look up the Ranger program some time to see just how bad we were at it when we started.  Hopefully they'll figure out a fix and they can keep rolling.


To be fair though, the Ranger Program failed because we like the Russians were just figuring out how to do this space stuff in the first place. The Chinese meanwhile have been able build its space program based on everything the Russians and American learned.
 
2014-01-26 03:43:00 PM
Great. Now somebody tell Spirit to get off it's lazy ass.
 
2014-01-26 04:39:05 PM

Harry_Seldon: [imgs.xkcd.com image 639x862]

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"Will I dream?"
 
2014-01-26 07:34:44 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: Harry_Seldon: [imgs.xkcd.com image 639x862]

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Already taken care of in the bewbs.


that was a saggy bewb
 
2014-01-26 08:18:05 PM

Harry_Seldon: PC LOAD LETTER: Harry_Seldon: [imgs.xkcd.com image 639x862]

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Already taken care of in the bewbs.

that was a saggy bewb


That's 'cause the bewb in question was designed to be viewed under martian gravity.
\Also, in triplex.
\\Needs extra slashies for proper support under 1 G
 
2014-01-27 01:34:50 AM

miscreant: Glockenspiel Hero: bbfreak: In other news, the end may be near for China's moon rover the Jade Rabbit. Which has been on the moon a whole 42 days.

It would be easy to insert the HAHA guy and make a joke about Chinese quality, but space exploration is hard.  Really, really hard.  Look up the Ranger program some time to see just how bad we were at it when we started.  Hopefully they'll figure out a fix and they can keep rolling.

Exactly... they're playing catch up, but they're catching up fast. That's hopefully a good thing, maybe the threat of China making inroads will convince the US to move some funding from the military over to NASA.


Its probably cheaper to drop a few megatons of Freedom (tm) on China. You get Long the victory with none of the book-learnin'.
 
2014-01-27 04:19:08 AM
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2014-01-27 05:39:52 AM
Let this be a lesson to always underpromise and overdeliver.
 
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