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(Bloomberg)   Scientific consensus is that January will be the coldest month in the US this century. And we all know you can't argue with scientific consensus   (bloomberg.com) divider line 223
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2014-01-25 08:52:33 PM
Ah, another thread to sift out the idiots who don't know the difference between climate and weather.

 
2014-01-25 08:59:01 PM
70 here today

/but this is California
//not the US
 
2014-01-25 09:01:58 PM

pueblonative: Ah, another thread to sift out the idiots who don't know the difference between climate and weather.


They're cute, aren't they? I mean if they weren't so destructive and weren't  actively ruining the only place in the universe that we can safely inhabit.  Cute in that way.
 
2014-01-25 09:03:08 PM
How do they know that it will be the coldest month in the US this century when we've 86 years to go?
 
2014-01-25 09:12:29 PM

ArcadianRefugee: How do they know that it will be the coldest month in the US this century when we've 86 years to go?


"Science!"
 
2014-01-25 09:22:05 PM

ArcadianRefugee: How do they know that it will be the coldest month in the US this century when we've 86 years to go?


Because subby is retarded.  "Century so far" is not 100 years.  It's the 14 years of the 21st Century.
 
2014-01-25 09:27:29 PM

gnosis301: ArcadianRefugee: How do they know that it will be the coldest month in the US this century when we've 86 years to go?

Because subby is retarded.  "Century so far" is not 100 years.  It's the 14 years of the 21st Century.


To be fair, it could be subb
 
2014-01-25 09:28:04 PM
bbys age as well.
 
2014-01-25 09:29:20 PM
/Damn dialup.
 
2014-01-25 09:29:37 PM

gnosis301: ArcadianRefugee: How do they know that it will be the coldest month in the US this century when we've 86 years to go?

Because subby is retarded.  "Century so far" is not 100 years.  It's the 14 years of the 21st Century.


13th.
 
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2014-01-25 09:34:36 PM

pueblonative: Ah, another thread to sift out the idiots who don't know the difference between climate and weather. believe anyone can actually predict weather to within a couple degrees, 50 to 100 years in the future.

 
2014-01-25 09:35:42 PM
Can a brother get some global warming up in here?
 
2014-01-25 09:37:36 PM

pueblonative: Ah, another thread to sift out the idiots who don't know the difference between climate and weather.


I'm wondering if this persistent cold is going to skew the averages at the end of the year.  2013 was the 4th hottest on record.  I wonder if there's going to be a blip because of the cold this year.
 
2014-01-25 09:38:26 PM

cameroncrazy1984: gnosis301: ArcadianRefugee: How do they know that it will be the coldest month in the US this century when we've 86 years to go?

Because subby is retarded.  "Century so far" is not 100 years.  It's the 14 years of the 21st Century.

13th.


Thanks, dad.
 
2014-01-25 09:41:02 PM

gameshowhost: pueblonative: Ah, another thread to sift out the idiots who don't know the difference between climate and weather.

They're cute, aren't they? I mean if they weren't so destructive and weren't  actively ruining the only place in the universe that we can safely inhabit.  Cute in that way.


Earth isn't the only place in the universe.  The deniers think none of this matter because heaven.  Earth is only temporary.

Plus baby jesus is going to come back any day now.
 
2014-01-25 09:41:50 PM
This is a big blow to the theory of "US Warming".
 
2014-01-25 09:44:16 PM
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2014-01-25 09:44:22 PM

Lsherm: I wonder if there's going to be a blip because of the cold this year.


You do recognize that there is more to the Earth than Murika, right?
 
2014-01-25 09:58:25 PM
Not sure if this is [Obvious] or [Amusing]....
 
2014-01-25 09:59:39 PM

Hollie Maea: This is a big blow to the theory of "US Warming".


It's why Imma go out and buy a Hummer tomorrow and run it all the time and crank my heat and AC at the same time.
 
2014-01-25 10:00:45 PM

cameroncrazy1984: gnosis301: ArcadianRefugee: How do they know that it will be the coldest month in the US this century when we've 86 years to go?

Because subby is retarded.  "Century so far" is not 100 years.  It's the 14 years of the 21st Century.

13th.


It's 2014. Keep up.
 
2014-01-25 10:01:08 PM
Hey 1 in 10 doctors thinks smoking is good for you.
 
2014-01-25 10:02:27 PM
rationalists.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-25 10:04:09 PM
You'd think they'd warn us sooner. It's only 6 more days in the month.
 
2014-01-25 10:05:12 PM

cwolf20: You'd think they'd warn us sooner. It's only 6 more days in the month.


I agree. Not much time to prepare.
 
2014-01-25 10:05:37 PM
Thanks Obama!

/blames el Negro
 
2014-01-25 10:06:06 PM

Lsherm: I'm wondering if this persistent cold is going to skew the averages at the end of the year. 2013 was the 4th hottest on record. I wonder if there's going to be a blip because of the cold this year.


Australia would like a word with you about the "cold" this year.

The globe as a whole isn't any colder this year, the cold part has just shifted location to a place where we happened to personally notice it.  That's why we had an article about parts of Alaska being warmer than parts of Florida a few days ago.
 
2014-01-25 10:08:48 PM

Nefarious: [imgs.xkcd.com image 537x543]


The problem with that is that it suggests that while global warming is happening, it's improving the climate for a lot of people. Which has long been one of the claims of right wingers/libertarians who don't want to do anything.
 
2014-01-25 10:10:16 PM
Well it is only 14/100 years so there may be a colder month in the next 86 years.
 
2014-01-25 10:10:18 PM

eiger: cameroncrazy1984: gnosis301: ArcadianRefugee: How do they know that it will be the coldest month in the US this century when we've 86 years to go?

Because subby is retarded.  "Century so far" is not 100 years.  It's the 14 years of the 21st Century.

13th.

It's 2014. Keep up.


Which makes it the 14th year of the century, most of which has yet to come; we've only completed 13 years.
 
2014-01-25 10:10:18 PM
Before this recent polar vortex thing, it was 17 years since the last time the average US temperature was below 18F. The average time between such low temperatures was four years.

Globally, 2013 was the fourth hottest year on record.

Sometimes local weather just wants to be different.
 
2014-01-25 10:10:53 PM
"The cold coming for the end of January is sufficient to make this the coldest month of the century so far and the coldest the Lower 48 has felt in at least 20 years."

In other words, let's just ignore Alaska's huge land mass and all the record high temperatures there this month.

When ski lodges in Alaska have to close down in late January, there's a problem.
 
2014-01-25 10:11:01 PM
I hope Al is right.  Upstate NY get Florida weather and Europe goes under a glacier when the Atlantic conveyor shuts down.  I cant think of a better world for me.
 
2014-01-25 10:11:48 PM
How Alaska doing?
 
2014-01-25 10:11:49 PM
I'm in Dallas and I laughed last spring when I saw snow shovels on clearance at Target.

Early December I bought one at Goodwill, complete with tge clearance tag, after a week of ice.

I sorta hope to need it in the next few weeks.
 
2014-01-25 10:11:51 PM

ArcadianRefugee: eiger: cameroncrazy1984: gnosis301: ArcadianRefugee: How do they know that it will be the coldest month in the US this century when we've 86 years to go?

Because subby is retarded.  "Century so far" is not 100 years.  It's the 14 years of the 21st Century.

13th.

It's 2014. Keep up.

Which makes it the 14th year of the century, most of which has yet to come; we've only completed 13 years.


That depends on whether you want to consider a "year 0" or let years 1 and -1 be consecutive.
 
2014-01-25 10:12:01 PM

Ehcks: Sometimes local weather just wants to be different.


You just don't understand it!

images.macworld.com
 
2014-01-25 10:15:03 PM

Ehcks: Before this recent polar vortex thing, it was 17 years since the last time the average US temperature was below 18F. The average time between such low temperatures was four years.

Globally, 2013 was the fourth hottest year on record.

Sometimes local weather just wants to be different.


Uh...were those other 3 years 2010, 2011, & 2012? Just curious.
 
2014-01-25 10:15:17 PM
They don't have the January numbers out yet, but this graph illustrates how cold US weather means exactly jack shiat.  Won't keep Fox News from scoffing though.

www.metoffice.gov.uk
 
2014-01-25 10:16:54 PM

TyrantII: How Alaska doing?


It did well in the preliminaries. But the Malamutes handed it it's ass.. wait, we're not on sports. And I don't think I named a real team, did I?
 
2014-01-25 10:17:58 PM

Hollie Maea: They don't have the January numbers out yet, but this graph illustrates how cold US weather means exactly jack shiat.  Won't keep Fox News from scoffing though.

[www.metoffice.gov.uk image 534x380]


Could you please post a chart showing a time frame relevant to the issue.  Like 5,000 years not 29 years.  Thank you Hollie maeCherry picker.
 
2014-01-25 10:18:42 PM

justinsmith354: Ehcks: Before this recent polar vortex thing, it was 17 years since the last time the average US temperature was below 18F. The average time between such low temperatures was four years.

Globally, 2013 was the fourth hottest year on record.

Sometimes local weather just wants to be different.

Uh...were those other 3 years 2010, 2011, & 2012? Just curious.


Would be hilarious, in a simultaneously depressing sort of way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record#Warmest _y ears
2010, 2005, and 1998.
All ten hottest years except 1998 are 2000+
 
2014-01-25 10:19:07 PM

ArcadianRefugee: How do they know that it will be the coldest month in the US this century when we've 86 years to go?


Q.E.D. motherfarkers!
 
2014-01-25 10:20:17 PM

Ehcks: ArcadianRefugee: eiger: cameroncrazy1984: gnosis301: ArcadianRefugee: How do they know that it will be the coldest month in the US this century when we've 86 years to go?

Because subby is retarded.  "Century so far" is not 100 years.  It's the 14 years of the 21st Century.

13th.

It's 2014. Keep up.

Which makes it the 14th year of the century, most of which has yet to come; we've only completed 13 years.

That depends on whether you want to consider a "year 0" or let years 1 and -1 be consecutive.


It matters more about how many more January's are scheduled to occur this year. If the answer is 'none'... then that makes year 14, as far as 'January' is concerned.
 
2014-01-25 10:20:21 PM

Fast Moon: Lsherm: I'm wondering if this persistent cold is going to skew the averages at the end of the year. 2013 was the 4th hottest on record. I wonder if there's going to be a blip because of the cold this year.

Australia would like a word with you about the "cold" this year.

The globe as a whole isn't any colder this year, the cold part has just shifted location to a place where we happened to personally notice it.  That's why we had an article about parts of Alaska being warmer than parts of Florida a few days ago.


Plus considering the fact that this cold weather is being caused by a fragment of the polar vortex means that warm air is getting pushed closer to the poles.  From what I can tell Alaska is actually seeing unusally warm weather, Anchorage for example on average has highs in the low 20's during the month of January, but as it stands the city has rain forecasted for when the midwest will be 10 below zero.
 
2014-01-25 10:20:40 PM

Hollie Maea: They don't have the January numbers out yet, but this graph illustrates how cold US weather means exactly jack shiat.  Won't keep Fox News from scoffing though.

[www.metoffice.gov.uk image 534x380]


And another, a single day snapshot from a few days ago.

icons.wxug.com
 
2014-01-25 10:21:18 PM
Jan. 2014 Average High                Historical Average High
New York:         38 F (3.3 C)          36 F (2.2 C)
Los Angeles:     76 F (24.4 C)        68 F (20 C)
Chicago:            27 F (-2.7 C)          32 F (0 C)
Houston:          64 F (17.8 C)          63 F (17.2 C)
Philadelphia:   40 F (4.4 C)           41 F (5 C)
Phoenix:           73 F (22. 8 C)         67 F (19.4 C)
San Antonio:   66 F (18.9 C)           63 F (17.2 C)
San Diego:        72 F (22.2 C)          65 F (18.3 C)
Dallas:               58 F (14.4 C)           57 F (13.9 C)
San Jose:          66 F (18.9 C)           58 F (14.4 C)
 
2014-01-25 10:22:13 PM

NFA: pueblonative: Ah, another thread to sift out the idiots who don't know the difference between climate and weather. believe anyone can actually predict weather to within a couple degrees, 50 to 100 years in the future.


Who is trying to predict the weather? (Think real hard here.)
 
2014-01-25 10:28:44 PM

12349876: Hollie Maea: They don't have the January numbers out yet, but this graph illustrates how cold US weather means exactly jack shiat.  Won't keep Fox News from scoffing though.

[www.metoffice.gov.uk image 534x380]

And another, a single day snapshot from a few days ago.

[icons.wxug.com image 640x694]


How many years were counted in this average temperature you speak of.  As I recall during the ice age the temp was lower.  Did you include that in your average?  When the dinosaurs roamed the temp was much hotter.  Is that in your average?  Global things happen on scales of thousands of years.  You have at best 400 years of semi reliable data.  Junk science is junk nice graphs included.
 
2014-01-25 10:31:02 PM

bigsteve3OOO: Hollie Maea: They don't have the January numbers out yet, but this graph illustrates how cold US weather means exactly jack shiat.  Won't keep Fox News from scoffing though.

[www.metoffice.gov.uk image 534x380]

Could you please post a chart showing a time frame relevant to the issue.  Like 5,000 years not 29 years.  Thank you Hollie maeCherry picker.


5000 years is not a relevant time frame.  The Industrial Revolution changed human society so drastically there's no need to go back farther than that at most.  Unless you think going back to the society of early Mesopotamia and killing all the people that can't be maintained with their technological restraints is acceptable.
 
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