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2014-01-25 08:39:59 PM
Nah...George Lucas would just add CGI beaks coming out of every woman's vagina.
 
2014-01-25 08:44:21 PM
The technology still needs work

/looks a little prixelated
 
2014-01-25 08:54:54 PM
Han spooged first?
 
2014-01-25 09:03:39 PM
do the actors have to register dick shots for verisimillitude?
 
2014-01-25 09:08:14 PM
Wouldnt this be super easy if they just planned ahead and used a green or blue condom?
 
2014-01-25 09:08:19 PM
Just don't flash a UV light on the green screen...
 
2014-01-25 09:08:19 PM
...or they could just shoot in a jurisdiction that doesn't require condoms to be used.
 
2014-01-25 09:08:25 PM
If they can get JJ Abrams, he can just add tons of lens flare and you won't be able to see condoms....or anything really.
 
2014-01-25 09:08:41 PM
Just have every porno be science fiction.  "Here I am putting on my space age 'Inviso-condom'.  Now that that's taken care of..."
 
2014-01-25 09:09:04 PM

JasonOfOrillia: Han spooged first?


That's no moons?
 
2014-01-25 09:10:19 PM

MattyBlast: Nah...George Lucas would just add CGI beaks coming out of every woman's vagina.


No he would use the actors for positioning Jar Jar
 
2014-01-25 09:13:32 PM
With that title there's a "Han Shot First" joke somewhere in there, but I can't think of a good one. Maybe one of you can help there.
 
2014-01-25 09:15:58 PM
Why don't they just hire actors with foreskins still attached, then simply pull the foreskin forward and use a twist tie or something to temporarily seal it off.  That way nothing gets in, nothing gets out, and you don't have to use a condom.  For the money shot one of the performers just has to yank on the twist tie, pull one off if you will, and there you have it.
 
2014-01-25 09:16:53 PM
Man, the porn industry is a sad relic.
 
2014-01-25 09:20:43 PM
Stephen Spielberg would replace all the penises with walkie talkies.

George Lucas would leave the condoms but replace all the broads with ghosts of racially insensitive caricatures.

Michael Bay would figure out a way to make the story and dialogue in the porn even worse but he would make great looking explosions.
 
2014-01-25 09:21:16 PM
meesa liking no condoms!!!

/I hope you rot in hell jar jar
 
2014-01-25 09:22:08 PM

LewDux: JasonOfOrillia: Han spooged first?

That's no moons mons?


FTFY
 
2014-01-25 09:22:39 PM

MattyBlast: Nah...George Lucas would just add CGI beaks coming out of every woman's vagina.


www.wearysloth.com
 
2014-01-25 09:22:51 PM
So in Lucas' porn version, Luke would have actually slept with Leia.
 
2014-01-25 09:26:56 PM

skinink: So in Lucas' porn version, Luke would have actually slept with Hans  Leia.

 
2014-01-25 09:32:22 PM
As long as they can CGI away the legally-mandated goggles I'm cool with it.
(Yes, that could be the next Thing)
 
2014-01-25 09:36:19 PM
Do condoms really bother porn viewers? REALLY? Because I'm not looking at the condom-wrapped member at all. And when it's IN the girl, you can't see it most of the time anyway, so it's not like the condoms are obstruction your view of manly meat if that's your cuppa.

So really, this HAS to be a non-issue. I can't believe this is something that drives away porn viewers.
 
2014-01-25 09:37:13 PM
Great, now we get to see badly edited angle shots of vagina's shooting their wad first.
 
2014-01-25 09:37:40 PM
I didn't read TFA but I think that you would have go frame by frame with rotoscoping or some shiat. The world needs interns too.
 
2014-01-25 09:38:10 PM
So...
I dunno about Star Wars, but there's some Star Trek porn out there that's worth a look just to see Spock splooging green stuff.
Ruins its value, you know, as porn, but worth a look.
 
2014-01-25 09:39:08 PM
Watch this high-paying jimmy removal move offshore.
 
2014-01-25 09:41:05 PM

Rozinante: So...
I dunno about Star Wars, but there's some Star Trek porn out there that's worth a look just to see Spock splooging green stuff.
Ruins its value, you know, as porn, but worth a look.


Sasha Grey as a Vulcan was worth a look, too.
 
2014-01-25 09:41:30 PM

ZeroCorpse: Do condoms really bother porn viewers? REALLY? Because I'm not looking at the condom-wrapped member at all. And when it's IN the girl, you can't see it most of the time anyway, so it's not like the condoms are obstruction your view of manly meat if that's your cuppa.

So really, this HAS to be a non-issue. I can't believe this is something that drives away porn viewers.


Yes.  Why?  Because I
media.tumblr.com

Who wants watered down porn with no money shots?  And do you really think banning condoms from porn is going to do ANYTHING to the STD/pregnancy rate?

/straight
 
2014-01-25 09:41:42 PM

Bareefer Obonghit: Stephen Spielberg would replace all the penises with walkie talkies.

George Lucas would leave the condoms but replace all the broads with ghosts of racially insensitive caricatures.

Michael Bay would figure out a way to make the story and dialogue in the porn even worse but he would make great looking explosions.


www.homepagedaily.com
 
2014-01-25 09:47:55 PM

ZeroCorpse: Do condoms really bother porn viewers? REALLY? Because I'm not looking at the condom-wrapped member at all. And when it's IN the girl, you can't see it most of the time anyway, so it's not like the condoms are obstruction your view of manly meat if that's your cuppa.

So really, this HAS to be a non-issue. I can't believe this is something that drives away porn viewers.


You'd think that, but it's been devastating to the industry.

Think of all the poor, unemployed Brazilian creampie midget amputees. Can you really look them in the eye and tell them their dreams are over? Can you?
 
2014-01-25 09:47:58 PM
"Bareback sex represents hypermasculinity, risk, and sexual freedom and constitutes a unique sexual identity. If a performer or viewer knows a scene or video has been shot while performers were wearing condoms, the thrill, danger, and very meaning of bareback sex have been blunted."

Uh, yeah. Sure. Psychoanalyze it all you want, some of us just don't like the way it looks.
 
2014-01-25 09:48:17 PM

MattyBlast: Nah...George Lucas would just add CGI beaks coming out of every woman's vagina.


img.fark.net
 
2014-01-25 09:49:38 PM

ZeroCorpse: Do condoms really bother porn viewers? REALLY? Because I'm not looking at the condom-wrapped member at all. And when it's IN the girl, you can't see it most of the time anyway, so it's not like the condoms are obstruction your view of manly meat if that's your cuppa.

So really, this HAS to be a non-issue. I can't believe this is something that drives away porn viewers.


Maybe not so much in straight porn, but definitely in gay porn.

/it's a stupid law.
//just meant to get rid of the porn industry, they really couldn't care less about the safety of the models.
 
2014-01-25 09:51:06 PM
It'd be interesting seeing Herner Werzog work on a porno, come to think of it. Or hell, why not just cut to the chase and hire John Waters?
 
2014-01-25 09:51:34 PM

ZeroCorpse: Do condoms really bother porn viewers? REALLY? Because I'm not looking at the condom-wrapped member at all. And when it's IN the girl, you can't see it most of the time anyway, so it's not like the condoms are obstruction your view of manly meat if that's your cuppa.

So really, this HAS to be a non-issue. I can't believe this is something that drives away porn viewers.


I'm NOT speaking as a sex worker in this response, because this isn't my area of biz so I have no first hand knowledge. I suspect though that they don't lose any money by *not* having condoms (IE no one is seeking elsewhere b/c they're turned off by it). But they would lose some by the inclusion. And it could be the additional wedge point between US based porn and Euro/Slavic. If making the digital changes to maintain the standard they know they make money by costs less than what they'd risk losing...it's worth doing it.

I agree with you, in that it doesn't bother me to see condoms in porn. But the main issue of the fight as I understand it from the outside is monetary and future losses as a result. Pure biz. Plus of course the arguments about wanting the govt to keep it's nose out, etc. Unreasonable limitations in an industry that has acceptable risks like many professions, and takes major safeguards. NASCAR drivers take risks too, but I'm sure people who watch that shiat wouldn't want to see the govt impose speed limits on the race. /shrug
 
2014-01-25 09:54:04 PM

fusillade762: "Bareback sex represents hypermasculinity, risk, and sexual freedom and constitutes a unique sexual identity. If a performer or viewer knows a scene or video has been shot while performers were wearing condoms, the thrill, danger, and very meaning of bareback sex have been blunted."

Uh, yeah. Sure. Psychoanalyze it all you want, some of us just don't like the way it looks.


pictures.funny16.com
 
2014-01-25 10:00:53 PM

Taima: ZeroCorpse: Do condoms really bother porn viewers? REALLY? Because I'm not looking at the condom-wrapped member at all. And when it's IN the girl, you can't see it most of the time anyway, so it's not like the condoms are obstruction your view of manly meat if that's your cuppa.

So really, this HAS to be a non-issue. I can't believe this is something that drives away porn viewers.

Maybe not so much in straight porn, but definitely in gay porn.

/it's a stupid law.
//just meant to get rid of the porn industry, they really couldn't care less about the safety of the models.


Yes and no. These whack jobs (sorry) honestly, truly believe in their heart of hearts that people who watch condom porn are going to use condoms in real life. The fact that they're utterly and completely wrong seems to elude them. But yes, it does really seem to be a weird end around (sorry again) to basically ban porn.

Personally, the few condom scenes I've watched, the condom seems a little tight and a little painful. Bareback just looks better; better movement, deeper penetration, and moister pubis. It's not a deal breaker, but I prefer bareback.
 
2014-01-25 10:03:21 PM
I only watch lesbian porn so I didn't even know the condom thing was an issue.
 
2014-01-25 10:04:02 PM

skinink: So in Lucas' porn version, Luke would have actually slept with Leia.


You're my sister, You're my sister
 
2014-01-25 10:05:27 PM
If they don't want to see condoms in porn, then the porn companies really should push to get this approved asap in the US. It wouldn't prevent all std's but it has the possibility of going bareback while also preventing the spread of HIV.

http://techcitement.com/culture/the-best-birth-control-in-the-world- is -for-men/#.UuR50xDn-M_
 
2014-01-25 10:07:35 PM

ZeroCorpse: Do condoms really bother porn viewers? REALLY? Because I'm not looking at the condom-wrapped member at all. And when it's IN the girl, you can't see it most of the time anyway, so it's not like the condoms are obstruction your view of manly meat if that's your cuppa.

So really, this HAS to be a non-issue. I can't believe this is something that drives away porn viewers.


Not all heterosexual men find male genitalia icky to look at.

/cue Seth Rogen and Paul Rudd
 
2014-01-25 10:12:00 PM

Taleri: If they don't want to see condoms in porn, then the porn companies really should push to get this approved asap in the US. It wouldn't prevent all std's but it has the possibility of going bareback while also preventing the spread of HIV.

http://techcitement.com/culture/the-best-birth-control-in-the-world- is -for-men/#.UuR50xDn-M_


They should call it cock caulk.
 
2014-01-25 10:14:07 PM

Mugato: I only watch lesbian porn so I didn't even know the condom thing was an issue.


Don't give them ideas or dental dams and gloves will be required before ya know it.
/sponsored by sapphicerotica.com
 
2014-01-25 10:20:54 PM

ZeroCorpse: Do condoms really bother porn viewers? REALLY? Because I'm not looking at the condom-wrapped member at all. And when it's IN the girl, you can't see it most of the time anyway, so it's not like the condoms are obstruction your view of manly meat if that's your cuppa.

So really, this HAS to be a non-issue. I can't believe this is something that drives away porn viewers.


I'm pretty sure that part of the problem is the interruption of a sexual fantasy.  I think for a while in the 90s some companies voluntarily put on condoms to see how it would affect sales and they noticed a decline.
 
2014-01-25 10:32:13 PM

MattyBlast: Nah...George Lucas would just add CGI beaks coming out of every woman's vagina.


Falcon makes gay porn.
 
2014-01-25 10:34:34 PM
And maybe the decline in sales has more to do with the widespread, freely available porn on the Internet? Why would people continue buying videos when they're posted on 4tube, youporn, etc. for free?
 
2014-01-25 10:38:00 PM

ZeroCorpse: And maybe the decline in sales has more to do with the widespread, freely available porn on the Internet? Why would people continue buying videos when they're posted on 4tube, youporn, etc. for free?


I'll assume that was directed at me.  The question as I interpreted it was "why would they hesitate to put condoms on performers?" rather than "what possible causes in the current time frame might cause a decline in porn profits?"

Which question are you asking?  Or as you asking another one entirely?
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2014-01-25 10:43:36 PM

Wolf892: Go without the condoms and just pixalate the naughty bits. Everyone loves that!


You're Japanese aren't you?
 
2014-01-25 10:44:02 PM
>>The condom, he says, is there, "but it's not giant and distracting."

heh.   hah.  hahah.
 
2014-01-25 10:48:40 PM
Why are you paying so much attention to the dicks in your porn?
 
2014-01-25 10:54:02 PM
The industry is moving to Vegas, along with every other thing the bugs California.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-01-25 10:55:57 PM

Nuclear Monk: Just don't flash a UV light on the green screen...


It would look like a farking Jackson Pollock painting.
 
2014-01-25 10:56:23 PM
Its kinda silly to be worried about the dude wearing a rubber during the relatively brief penetration when he is going to end up splooging in the chicks mouth, nose, etc..
 
2014-01-25 11:02:51 PM

ZeroCorpse: And maybe the decline in sales has more to do with the widespread, freely available porn on the Internet? Why would people continue buying videos when they're posted on 4tube, youporn, etc. for free?


Ah, yes.
Give it time and that too will be banned because those clips promote unsafe sexual practices.
 
2014-01-25 11:04:59 PM

Mugato: I only watch lesbian porn so I didn't even know the condom thing was an issue.


You missed the air quotes around the word "lesbian".
 
2014-01-25 11:06:05 PM
Hey guys.... just imagine, there are people in this world who get paid to stare at closeups of another man's raging erection, all day, every day.
 
2014-01-25 11:07:32 PM
Silly subby! George Lucas deals with abortions, not condoms!
 
2014-01-25 11:10:10 PM

ZeroCorpse: And maybe the decline in sales has more to do with the widespread, freely available porn on the Internet? Why would people continue buying videos when they're posted on 4tube, youporn, etc. for free?


But the freely available porn on the net has typically been condom free until now. The stuff from Vivid in the early to mid 90s was almost all condom unless the performers were an item. Once anybody with a website could start filming "You shat on my daughter, now shiat on me 12" condoms had to go away. Which was largely fine until 2013 turned into the year of "hey look at the performer with the AIDS".
 
2014-01-25 11:12:21 PM

Chariset: Hey guys.... just imagine, there are people in this world who get paid to stare at closeups of another man's raging erection, all day, every day.


I've heard from the guys who get paid to stare at closeups of women's snatches all day, every day, that it starts to pall after a while.
 
2014-01-25 11:31:39 PM

elguerodiablo: MattyBlast: Nah...George Lucas would just add CGI beaks coming out of every woman's vagina.

[img.fark.net image 648x596]


Is that real? I haven't bothered with Star Wars in twenty years. It looks stupid.
 
2014-01-25 11:58:30 PM

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: elguerodiablo: MattyBlast: Nah...George Lucas would just add CGI beaks coming out of every woman's vagina.

[img.fark.net image 648x596]

Is that real? I haven't bothered with Star Wars in twenty years. It looks stupid.


Yep, and it's not the only sin Lucas committed - he basically filled the movie with CGI additions, replacements, and so on. Pissed all over it.
 
2014-01-26 12:16:55 AM

elguerodiablo: MattyBlast: Nah...George Lucas would just add CGI beaks coming out of every woman's vagina.

[img.fark.net image 648x596]


2.bp.blogspot.com

Bwahahahahaha!  Story time:  Back in 7th or 8th grade, one of the kids got an explicit (not Playboy) nudie mag and brought it to school.  One of the pictorials had an "I think you can see her kidneys" shot.  When one of the special ed kids saw it, he said, "It looks like the Sarlacc Pit."
 
2014-01-26 12:18:10 AM

berylman: Mugato: I only watch lesbian porn so I didn't even know the condom thing was an issue.

Don't give them ideas or dental dams and gloves will be required before ya know it.
/sponsored by sapphicerotica.com



OMG, it's an orgy!
sln.fi.edu
/Not Safe For Space
 
2014-01-26 12:19:45 AM

Wolf892: Go without the condoms and just pixalate the naughty bits. Everyone loves that!



Can't they just use tentacles?
 
2014-01-26 12:21:53 AM

Chariset: Hey guys.... just imagine, there are people in this world who get paid to stare at closeups of another man's raging erection, all day, every day.



Some of us are too old to be altar boys.
 
2014-01-26 12:26:54 AM
Now if they could make the 30yd old high school students look real. Another reason I watch Anime.
 
2014-01-26 12:29:01 AM

FormlessOne: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: elguerodiablo: MattyBlast: Nah...George Lucas would just add CGI beaks coming out of every woman's vagina.

[img.fark.net image 648x596]

Is that real? I haven't bothered with Star Wars in twenty years. It looks stupid.

Yep, and it's not the only sin Lucas committed - he basically filled the movie with CGI additions, replacements, and so on. Pissed all over it.


Yeah, and they renamed Star Wars "Episode IV" for some reason.
 
2014-01-26 12:42:05 AM

dababler: MattyBlast: Nah...George Lucas would just add CGI beaks coming out of every woman's vagina.

Falcon makes gay porn.



You came in that thing? Your braver than I thought.
 
2014-01-26 01:23:56 AM

Snarfangel: Chariset: Hey guys.... just imagine, there are people in this world who get paid to stare at closeups of another man's raging erection, all day, every day.


Some of us are too old to be altar boys.


I literally LMFAO'd.

/L'dMFAO?
 
2014-01-26 01:55:36 AM
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/no comment
 
2014-01-26 02:19:13 AM
So here really people out there "demanding" condom free porn? A subset I suppose of the people that still pay for porn, who are, well who exactly?
 
2014-01-26 02:27:42 AM
Industrial Light and Magic Mike?
 
2014-01-26 02:59:58 AM
"they could get George Lucas to help..."

Or Peter Jackson.

i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
 
2014-01-26 03:05:00 AM

dforkus: So here really people out there "demanding" condom free porn? A subset I suppose of the people that still pay for porn, who are, well who exactly?


On a few occasions I've purchased DVDs to bring home and watch with the wife. It's easier to know what you're getting into rather than watching random videos online that could turn pretty weird and kill the mood.
 
2014-01-26 03:10:28 AM
The reason people don't want to see a condom is because they've worn them shiats and no matter what some people say it does NOT feel as good as 'bareback'*.

*which is farking stupid farking term
 
2014-01-26 03:15:21 AM

lewismarktwo: The reason people don't want to see a condom is because they've worn them shiats and no matter what some people say it does NOT feel as good as 'bareback'*.

*which is farking stupid farking term


True. Condoms suck and I don't want to see them in a fantasy. It's really that simple. The great thing about porn/erotica is that you can vicariously experience all the crazy sex you'll never get to have yourself. Ooh, condoms. How exotic.
 
2014-01-26 03:21:44 AM

Gyrfalcon: Why are you paying so much attention to the dicks in your porn?


Because I'm gay?  ;-)
 
2014-01-26 03:30:19 AM

elguerodiablo: MattyBlast: Nah...George Lucas would just add CGI beaks coming out of every woman's vagina.

[img.fark.net image 648x596]


I can't watch that scene in the redone "Return of the Jedi" now because all I see is Audrey II from "Little Shop of Horrors".  Great job there, George.
 
2014-01-26 05:13:23 AM

humanshrapnel: ZeroCorpse: Do condoms really bother porn viewers? REALLY? Because I'm not looking at the condom-wrapped member at all. And when it's IN the girl, you can't see it most of the time anyway, so it's not like the condoms are obstruction your view of manly meat if that's your cuppa.

So really, this HAS to be a non-issue. I can't believe this is something that drives away porn viewers.

Yes.  Why?  Because I


Who wants watered down porn with no money shots?  And do you really think banning condoms from porn is going to do ANYTHING to the STD/pregnancy rate?

/straight


ha, first time seeing that gif\commercial...is that the guy from Breaking Bad chowing down?
 
2014-01-26 05:32:01 AM
well post production is an important part of any porno
 
2014-01-26 05:35:11 AM

Ima4nic8or: Its kinda silly to be worried about the dude wearing a rubber during the relatively brief penetration when he is going to end up splooging in the chicks mouth, nose, etc..


This. In every porn scene I've seen where a condom was worn, it was removed for the money shot. Often on screen.
 
2014-01-26 07:13:30 AM

Birnone: Why don't they just hire actors with foreskins still attached, then simply pull the foreskin forward and use a twist tie or something to temporarily seal it off.  That way nothing gets in, nothing gets out, and you don't have to use a condom.  For the money shot one of the performers just has to yank on the twist tie, pull one off if you will, and there you have it.




I want you to know that this was the funniest farking thing I've heard in a month.
 
2014-01-26 07:15:28 AM
Birnone
2014-01-25 09:15:58 PM

Why don't they just hire actors with foreskins still attached, then simply pull the foreskin forward and use a twist tie or something to temporarily seal it off. That way nothing gets in, nothing gets out, and you don't have to use a condom. For the money shot one of the performers just has to yank on the twist tie, pull one off if you will, and there you have it.

It's a bit odd to fark with ones foreskin still un-rolled. You don't feel much, but it's kind of exciting in itself.

/ Happened to me once or twice.
 
2014-01-26 08:11:13 AM

JasonOfOrillia: Han spooged first?


I think the real question is whether or not the Millennium Falcon do the Kessel run in in less than 12 pornsex.
 
2014-01-26 08:12:55 AM

Snarfangel: Chariset: Hey guys.... just imagine, there are people in this world who get paid to stare at closeups of another man's raging erection, all day, every day.

Some of us are too old to be altar boys.


Wait, I was supposed to be  paid for that?
 
2014-01-26 08:13:21 AM

skinink: So in Lucas' porn version, Luke would have actually slept with Leia.


That actually happened in the porn parody NSFW
 
2014-01-26 08:13:32 AM
Masturbation maniac 5 starring Hand Solo
 
2014-01-26 08:43:02 AM
Tentacle porn, here we cum.

/muricca
 
2014-01-26 09:23:28 AM
I'm glad that somebody finally noted that the proponents of condom use in porn really do not give a damn about the actors, but are intensely interested in "raising public awareness" (a phrase used almost exclusively by scoundrels), to encourage condom use.

A useful note there.  If someone ever uses the phrase "raising public awareness" to you, no matter the subject, you now know that they are a scoundrel, and want control over others.
 
2014-01-26 09:55:59 AM

swahnhennessy: Man, the porn industry is a sad relic.


Between Republicans, CGI, and Japanese cartoons involving tentacles, why is there even a "live-action" porn industry anymore?
 
2014-01-26 10:23:37 AM
Uh, interesting? More like obvious.  This was discussed when the law first came out, and seems like a no-brainer with the technology available.
 
2014-01-26 11:07:40 AM

Bareefer Obonghit: Stephen Spielberg would replace all the penises with walkie talkies.

George Lucas would leave the condoms but replace all the broads with ghosts of racially insensitive caricatures.

Michael Bay would figure out a way to make the story and dialogue in the porn even worse but he would make great looking explosions.


Woody Allen would add underaged Asian relatives to the mix.

Tim Burton would make it a living cartoon starring his wife and Johnny Depp
 
2014-01-26 12:54:59 PM

My breasts! Meegasa squeeze them!

 
2014-01-26 06:21:09 PM

Chariset: Hey guys.... just imagine, there are people in this world who get paid to stare at closeups of another man's raging erection, all day, every day.


A friend of mine worked at the film classification board for the province of Saskatchewan in the '90s. He had to view every film or video that was to become commercially available in the province. He said after a morning of viewing horrible pornography with his co-workers, male and female, he would often get drunk and high on his lunchbreak and skip the afternoon. He was never penalized for missing work.
 
2014-01-26 08:03:09 PM

alltim: horrible pornography with his co-workers, male and female, he would often get drunk and high on his lunchbreak and skip the afternoon.


I'm not sure what horrible pornography entails but perhaps it is best not to dwell on it.
 
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