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(IndyStar)   When the police, DCS, therapists, and hospital staff all agree that exorcism(s) are your best course of action and are willing to assist-- you might want to just find a new rental house   (indystar.com) divider line 119
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2014-01-25 02:54:07 PM
I read a helluva lot of news, magazine articles, etc.-- and this is without doubt one of the most farked up things i've ever read. I'm not even catholic(Apatheist in fact) and it creeped me the hell out.
 
2014-01-25 03:08:29 PM

dugitman: I read a helluva lot of news, magazine articles, etc.-- and this is without doubt one of the most farked up things i've ever read. I'm not even catholic(Apatheist in fact) and it creeped me the hell out.


Definitely creeped me out too.
 
2014-01-25 03:19:21 PM
Well, that was a big dose of WTF.
 
2014-01-25 03:21:23 PM

xanadian: Well, that was a big dose of WTF.


Yeah, it's not normal that you get official documents talking about a kid "walking" up a wall.
 
2014-01-25 03:27:44 PM
img.fark.net
 
2014-01-25 03:44:51 PM
Ammons and Campbell said the 12-year-old was levitating above the bed, unconscious.

Pics or it didn't happen.
 
2014-01-25 03:49:07 PM

quatchi: Ammons and Campbell said the 12-year-old was levitating above the bed, unconscious.

Pics or it didn't happen.


Yeah none of these officials documents anything with a camera?
 
2014-01-25 03:59:08 PM
there are no such things as ghosts or demons or angels.

gullible people are gullible.

Confabulat: Yeah none of these officials documents anything with a camera?



this.  one load of horseshiat, coming right up.
 
2014-01-25 04:05:42 PM
The first option should have been to move out.  Most people would.
I did not read the whole article since I don't want to think about that stuff today, but I read far enough to know they are trying too hard.
Just leave.  Maybe call a priest to do a space clearing.  Trouble with houses is easier to fix than a possessed person.
 
2014-01-25 04:06:01 PM

quatchi: Ammons and Campbell said the 12-year-old was levitating above the bed, unconscious.

Pics or it didn't happen.


The mother is speaking on the condition that her children aren't named. If there are pictures then making them public would pretty much violate that condition.
 
2014-01-25 04:07:37 PM
Shut the fark up, stop posting this farking bullshiat! I stopped reading at the second line, after I saw:

A 9-year-old boy walking backward up a wall in the presence of a family case manager and hospital nurse.

Shut the fark Up!
 
2014-01-25 04:10:03 PM
Eddie Murphy misled me.

Movie be just like this: [brother's voice] "Wow, baby, this is beautiful. We got chandelier hangin' up here, kids outside playin', it's a beautiful neighborhood, I really love - this is beaut--" [demonic whisper] "Get out!" [brother's voice] "Too bad we can't stay." [instantly spins, starts walking upstage]
 
2014-01-25 04:10:24 PM
Someone will buy the movie rights.
Why are only Catholic priests able to cast out demons? Demons hate Latin?
 
2014-01-25 04:10:45 PM
I really don't believe any of this.  Since everyone has a damn camera phone now, there's no excuse for not having photos.  Hospitals also have camera systems installed everywhere, so where's that video?
 
2014-01-25 04:12:26 PM

Bathia_Mapes: The mother is speaking on the condition that her children aren't named. If there are pictures then making them public would pretty much violate that condition.


[churchlady]

How Convenient.

Stick me in the pile of people who think she's mentally ill and that her delusions made her family perform on cue through some farked up group delusion process.

I liked the batteries dying bit, that was a nice twist.
 
2014-01-25 04:16:58 PM
I only have faith in one thing.  The laws of physics.

You start breaking the laws of physics, like walking backwards up a wall, I'll believe anything you say.
 
2014-01-25 04:19:06 PM
Mom was mentally ill and wound up the kids (or b. they're mentally ill too c. the kids started messing with her or all three). Religious officials/doctors/conmen that Mom shopped for reinforced her delusions. She keeps the kids out of school so they don't have access to outside information & guidance.

Finally, next to racecar drivers, cops are the most superstitious people on Earth, are usually religious, and love adrenalin and telling war stories. If they weren't already all revved up to believe in something they wouldn't have changed the batteries in their flashlights, assuming that's even true.

Muchausen's by proxy except instead of poisoning the kids' food Mom is messing with their minds. And now she gets even more attention/reward for doing it.

Sorry to Scully this one but it's not fun like a haunted house or Bloody Mary. It's real kids and it's pretty messed up.

/that's just like my opinion man
 
2014-01-25 04:19:18 PM

jtown: Eddie Murphy misled me.

Movie be just like this: [brother's voice] "Wow, baby, this is beautiful. We got chandelier hangin' up here, kids outside playin', it's a beautiful neighborhood, I really love - this is beaut--" [demonic whisper] "Get out!" [brother's voice] "Too bad we can't stay." [instantly spins, starts walking upstage]


Now I'm actually curious about the article, but came to post pretty much this.

/Are they white people?  Do they see blood in the toilet and say 'well, this is peculiar'?
 
2014-01-25 04:19:32 PM
Can the kid still do the walk up walls thing?  I've had a frisbee stuck on my roof for years.
 
2014-01-25 04:25:53 PM
It's 2014. Ain't no ghosts, no demons, no bigfoot, no angels, no Santa. So tired of people treating these delusions with any bit of seriousness... Any claim like this should be met with simply, "Bullshiat; show me."
 
2014-01-25 04:29:29 PM
Tap, tap, tap...

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-25 04:30:52 PM
I am however open to the idea that the mom is having a personal encounter with evil, not just the one she thinks she's having. I'm a skeptic, not amoral.

/at least I have my agnosticism to comfort me through the difficult times.
 
2014-01-25 04:32:10 PM
"But moving wasn't an option for the cash-strapped family. "

When the kids are levitating over the beds, YOU DRIVE TO FARKING FLORIDA AND SLEEP ON  BENCH IF  YOU HAVE TO
 
2014-01-25 04:34:55 PM

flucto: "But moving wasn't an option for the cash-strapped family. "

When the kids are levitating over the beds, YOU DRIVE TO FARKING FLORIDA AND SLEEP ON  BENCH IF  YOU HAVE TO


Hi, welcome to Fark.  I invite you to look for stories under the Florida tag.  I would pretty much drive anywhere else.
 
2014-01-25 04:35:11 PM
If you live in Gary, IN period, you'd wanna consider a new town altogether. Even some of the most thug arseholes in Chicago won't set foot there.
 
2014-01-25 04:35:43 PM
Unlike all the other reports of demonic possession that turned out to be hoaxes, this one is 100% true. The first one, in fact.
 
2014-01-25 04:37:14 PM
Mold or airborne disease in the house maybe?
 
2014-01-25 04:39:04 PM

techgeek07: Hi, welcome to Fark.


Well it is my first day here but I did pick Florida for a reason.
 
2014-01-25 04:40:29 PM
Or a new country not populated Ruled by sky fairy worshiping ignoramuses
 
2014-01-25 04:41:52 PM
I've never understood why Satan or whatever would do this. Wouldn't it just drive the victims to Jesus? "The  greatest trick the  Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

/proud atheist
//love a good ghost story
///slashies come in threes
 
2014-01-25 04:50:00 PM

albatros183: Or a new country not populated Ruled by sky fairy worshiping ignoramuses


bye.
 
2014-01-25 04:50:41 PM
If you'd like to have a logical explanation
How I happened on this elegant syncopation,
I will say without a moment of hesitation
There is just one place
That can light my face.
Gary, Indiana
 
2014-01-25 05:01:20 PM
After reading this story do you:
A)  Believe in bad writing.
 
2014-01-25 05:01:36 PM
when's the movie coming out?
 
2014-01-25 05:06:32 PM

Lionel Richie is possessed?


vinylrecords.ch
 
2014-01-25 05:07:27 PM
Funny that these things always seem to happen to religious people, no? You never hear of atheists having these problems.

Or do you?
 
2014-01-25 05:08:24 PM
We laugh at and/or are appalled by the stupidity of those folk in African countries that have faith in the witch doctors who will cut up unfortunate Albinos for the magic value of their body parts. Even though no one is chopping up humans for the prayers and exorcisms that act as the spells in this particular tale, it still doesn't make this story any less ludicrous than tales involving the backwards rituals people employ elsewhere on this planet.

Seems the landlord said there were no problems in the home before or after Ammons and her family lived there. Funny that.

The most amazing thing ever is that people can be so ridiculously stupid and still no die from it.
 
2014-01-25 05:08:26 PM
It is a mental illness but one that every single person here could have. Happens when someone gets sick...and others all start feeling symptoms too. It's happened at schools where children have mysterious ailments that defy diagnosis...but the symptoms are all relatively psychosomatic.

They're not faking it. Certain stimulus can trigger these events (such as witnessing other people becoming sick, you are likely to feel sick or hypersensitive to how you're feeling at that moment as a result).

I read the entire article. I'm an atheist raised Catholic and when I was younger read tons of material on these types of things, because it fascinated me. Anyhoo, here's my unexpert opinion based on that and my studies in psychology/neuroscience. It's a close family who were facing financial hardships. They had moved to a new location, this also causes close families to become closer because they just have each other as they're in a new place. And Mom is very religious. She doesn't strike me as a constantly praying type, but she has very very deep religious beliefs which color all her experiences. There's plenty of people like this.

shiatload of flies show up in December. Weird, but I have no problems believing this happened though I also suspect the memory has become exaggerated as all such do. This event, continuing over the course of days/weeks started this whole thing, because she went to a supernatural explanation.

They became hypersensitive to such, and as a insulated family group...started all this. It's not the first time it's happened, and it fits specific patterns. Such specific patterns in fact, that prior to modern medicine the Catholic church had guidelines for dealing with it. And because the delusion is based in religious fevor, it can be 'cured' by the same.

If your kid really believes there are monsters under the bed, do you rationalize with them on why this cannot be in the middle of the night? Or do you comfort them and play along with their fears (checking closets, under the bed, etc). Unless you're a farking monster, you're going to want to comfort the child and show them it's okay.

I have no problems believing the family in this story was sincere. People affected by these types of delusions are 'playing along' but usually unconsciously. Or they have an awareness of it they are simply not capable of admitting (generally the kids). Kids often exaggerate things, especially when attention is being paid to it. Every kid has limped a little more than they needed to at one point, cried a little harder than they had to, because attention fosters that. Again, it doesn't mean you should smack them or deny them the attention, but it's important to recognize this dynamic.

There's mental health professionals that have said in cases of specific delusion such as this exorcisms are affective not for their supernatural value (of which there is none) but for their clinical value. Monster under the bed.

That's what happened here. And because the family WAS sincere, as were others involved, yes...others got sucked into the delusion as well. The article is smart to mention that the people most deeply affected ALSO held supernatural beliefs (if not in demons, then ghosts and the like).

And because the people involved were sincere, and probably highly honest people who truly believe what they're recounting...this story will circle around for a long time as 'PROOF' and 'EVIDENCE' of this nonsense even though in reality it's nothing of the kind.

In fact, when 'haunted houses' have been found to cause no problems for others, the excuse given is that the FAMILY is haunted, not the house. Had this family been moved as a group after this happened, it would have likely continued elsewhere. The children continued to show symptoms until reunited with Mom who believed the problem was fixed with exorcism.

All that being said, they're not bad people. I'm sure they're actually pretty good people, and she's probably a mother who truly deeply cares for her kids; after all she did everything they told her to get them back. But it was a series of preventable events that started due to religious fervor. This only harmed the family for a short time, but this type of literal insanity can be very very dangerous when directed outward.

Like children accusing others of being witches, etc. We live in modern times, with modern medicine and technology. Show me footage of someone levitating in a bed. No? I don't disbelieve that THEY believe it. I just haven't seen physics violated, and would very much like to see that!

And with all the modern technology, UFO bullshiat is dying out because everyone has a cell phone that can make movies. Setting up cameras in rooms of people who claim frequent abductions isn't difficult with data storage today. And what have we found? Liars, and those who aren't lying have health issues that fooled them into their beliefs.

It's also important to note that these types of delusions aren't purely isolated to woo beliefs (supernatural horseshiat). There are people who believe mold makes their whole family sick (which in some cases, does happen to people) where no mold is found, or no HARMFUL mold has been found and all the symptoms are psychosomatic. People who believe power lines are making them sick. It all centers around a false belief though, that then their hypervigilance reinforces again and again.

Interesting stuff...but not demonic. Not supernatural.

/Of course if you can prove otherwise, James Randi has a million bucks for you.
 
2014-01-25 05:08:54 PM

99.998er: Lionel Richie is possessed?
[vinylrecords.ch image 530x420]


The Shoulders!
 
2014-01-25 05:09:51 PM
But she told police she was scared when it happened and ran out of the room. As for Walker, Washington said, "he ran out of the room with me."

Damn right I did. Ain't nobody got time for that.

/good thing I didn't read that article at night. Creepy as f*ck
 
2014-01-25 05:10:59 PM
Why is it that 99 percent of these demon houses, possessions, poltergeists are all Catholic families?
 
2014-01-25 05:12:15 PM

Psychohazard: After reading this story do you:
A)  Believe in bad writing.


C) believe in the bible
 
2014-01-25 05:13:21 PM
Did anyone else notice how every single person mentioned in TFA that claims to have witnessed paranormal events already believed in ghosts and/or demons beforehand?  Isn't that a happy coincidence.
 
2014-01-25 05:16:01 PM

optikeye: Why is it that 99 percent of these demon houses, possessions, poltergeists are all Catholic families?


I watched the Devils advocate the other day so I know that 100% of demonic instances are tom cruise or Robert de niro.

/Scientology FTW!
 
2014-01-25 05:18:32 PM

albatros183: optikeye: Why is it that 99 percent of these demon houses, possessions, poltergeists are all Catholic families?

I watched the Devils advocate the other day so I know that 100% of demonic instances are tom cruise or Robert de niro.

/Scientology FTW!


If you watched Devil's Advocate with Cruise and De Niro, you may want to see a priest.
 
2014-01-25 05:25:22 PM

hardinparamedic: [img.fark.net image 640x668]


This.   Yeah, if your hospital is telling you to get an exorcism, rent a house in someplace where the doctors and cops don't believe in hoodoo.
 
2014-01-25 05:37:14 PM

simplicimus: !


Keanu; Cruise meh will you correct my spelling now?
 
2014-01-25 05:37:44 PM
Creepy. I don't believe a word of it, but creepy.
 
2014-01-25 05:38:44 PM
 
2014-01-25 05:39:36 PM

albatros183: simplicimus: !

Keanu; Cruise meh will you correct my spelling now?


And Al Pacino, not De Niro
 
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