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(SeattlePI)   Defying all medical reason and a judge's order, Fort Worth hospital considers appeal because they 'have a duty to protect the fetus'   (seattlepi.com) divider line 37
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2014-01-25 03:06:15 PM
5 votes:
They only want to keep the fetus alive in the hopes that it will grow up to vote Republican.
2014-01-25 11:20:42 PM
4 votes:

Gyrfalcon: hardinparamedic: Truther: Almost as vile as abortion doctors and those who kill their unborn children.

Awww, how cute.

And whose little alt is this? And so late in the day, come to support a story that has no supportability at ALL.


You, personally, may find the position of the hospital to be entirely unsupportable, but you are not considering the situation from the point of view of a person who is completely insane.
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-01-25 02:41:49 PM
4 votes:
I'm guessing that they aren't volunteering to pick up the tab for the hospital stay.

And what do they plan to do with it anyway?   If they can keep a dead body from decomposing by keeping the organs going how long are they going to keep it?  I guess they could transplant in some new organs when the original ones give out.  The way medical science keeps progressing they could keep it going for thousands of years.

Sort of like King Tut, but all high tech and stuff.  Maybe they can charge admission.
2014-01-25 08:02:11 PM
2 votes:

zeio: SilentStrider: They only want to keep the fetus alive in the hopes that it will grow up to vote Republican.

Well if its dead, it will end up a democrat registered voter. And if its brain dead, it will be a democrat registered voter that votes several times in one election being bussed from polling station to polling station.

EAT EVERY COCK, EVERYWHERE, FOR ALL TIME.

2014-01-25 05:11:04 PM
2 votes:
This will resolve itself when the only thing that can keep the woman's body going is stem cells.
2014-01-25 04:34:29 PM
2 votes:
The only way to resolve this situation is to declare the fetus born. Suddenly its a Mexican and Republicans wont give 2 cents about its welfare.
2014-01-25 04:31:27 PM
2 votes:

TV's Vinnie: What are these fundie sickos going to do? Stand around a wheezing ball of twisted flesh after it's born from an artificially-animated corpse and sing "Yes, Jesus loves me" while it gurgles and yowls itself to death?


You're too young to remember the Reagan's presidency, I see.
2014-01-25 04:23:33 PM
2 votes:
i.imgur.com


Next up: Genital mutilation. If a fetus can feel pain, then why are you mutilating its penis without sedatives and painkillers?

/Genital mutilation: Brought to you by Israel. Where mutilating your defenseless babies penis makes the baby 1% Jewish.
GBB
2014-01-25 04:02:40 PM
2 votes:

hardinparamedic: Oh god farking damnit.

This lawyer is human scum.  THERE IS NO FETUS. It is grossly deformed and it's brain is a bag of fluid. It is DEAD. She is  DEAD. Let them go in peace and the family mourn.


But the GOP prophecy says that this child will be the one to rise up against the evil liberals.  They must protect it at all costs.
2014-01-25 04:01:20 PM
2 votes:

Gergesa: I take it the pro lifers aren't jumping at the bit to take responsibility for this non viable fetus if it is born?


Perhaps the Octomom would be interested...?
2014-01-25 03:52:19 PM
2 votes:

Gergesa: I take it the pro lifers aren't jumping at the bit to take responsibility for this non viable fetus if it is born?


Nah, that sounds like something Christ would do.
2014-01-25 03:51:28 PM
2 votes:

TV's Vinnie: What are these fundie sickos going to do? Stand around a wheezing ball of twisted flesh after it's born from an artificially-animated corpse and sing "Yes, Jesus loves me" while it gurgles and yowls itself to death?

I just don't see the slightest thing holy about this at all.

Religion that is used to dominate people instead of comfort them shouldn't be a Constitutional right.


I think I saw that movie. Didn't the baby end up living in a basket and eating people? I remember it had tits. The movie, not the baby.
2014-01-25 03:50:43 PM
2 votes:

hardinparamedic: vpb: I'm guessing that they aren't volunteering to pick up the tab for the hospital stay.

As I understand it, the chief legal counsel for the hospital is actually a prominent Anti-abortion attorney, and one of the people who helped draft the law in Texas that they are referring to when refusing to remove this poor woman's body from the ventilator. So they're basically using this woman as a "pro-life" martyr.

The thing about it is, if they are found to have misapplied or even blatantly lied to the family in the application of this law, the county is liable on the tune of millions of dollars to the family for negligence, malpractice, and even illegal human experimentation for what they have done here.


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2014-01-25 03:36:40 PM
2 votes:
It's an amazing coincidence that this particular circumstance, happening at a county hospital, in a state that had recently implemented misdirected right-to-life laws, and in such an astounding manner showing the absurdity of the application of extreme anti-abortion measures.

It's almost as if this scenario was part of some intelligent grand design.
2014-01-26 10:05:55 AM
1 votes:

Amberleia: UseLessHuman: Hubris.  They are so bound to the concept that they are special and that God has a special plan for THEM that to believe that every fetus may not be a God's special snowflake for whom miracles occur would force them to believe that perhaps THEY are not God's special snowflake for whom miracles will occur.  The mind recoils and they start insisting on having dead women bear dead fetuses in a vain attempt to make the world fit their own preconceived notions allowing them to remain safe within their own ignorant certitude.  Hubris.

I'm actually an atheist, which is at least part of the reason I think that as long as there's a chance that a fetus is viable, then the mother should be kept alive by artificial means.  Death of the fetus isn't going to result in a heavenly reunion where the mother can hold and cherish her baby, despite what people on some of the boards are saying.

Also, I keep asking myself what I would want if it were me in that position. While under normal circumstances, I wouldn't choose life support, I would right now. I would want to give my unborn child every opportunity to have a life. It's odd in a way, as I had never planned on having biological children. I've provided foster care to hard-to-place kids and have hopes of adopting. I always figured that I could do more good taking in these unwanted kids and providing them a safe and loving home than I could by adding one more person to the mess that we call home.  Now, though, and maybe it's the pregnancy hormones, I would fight tooth and nail to prevent any harm from coming to my baby. If I had to choose between my baby's life and a few months of being kept artificially alive, I'd choose him every time.


IT ISN'T EVEN REMOTELY VIABLE YOU FARKWIT! END OF FARKING STORY!
2014-01-26 02:07:57 AM
1 votes:
Necromancy is bad. So sayeth the bible.
2014-01-25 06:26:59 PM
1 votes:

Amberleia: I am pro-choice.  The well-being of a woman, mental, emotional, and physical, supercedes the rights of an unborn fetus.  However, in this case, the mother's well-being is irrelevant, as she's no longer living. Therefore, I believe the rights of the living fetus supercede the rights of a dead woman. If there's any chance of a viable infant being born, then, in my opinion, life support should be continued.

I haven't seen the evidence that the fetus isn't viable, though the reports state that the father's attorneys have such.  If this is true, then by all means end everything, but if there's any doubt at all, then I believe the fetus should be maintained until it is either born or all doubt in removed.


I agree. Even, despite the substantial deformities already observed, the fact that the fetus was deprived of oxygen for several minutes, the fact that the fetus has not been properly exposed to hormones due to the death of the hormone regulator in the body and the fact that the fetus has been exposed to numerous damaging anti-necrotic drugs, if the slightest possibility that the fetus can be "born" as a horribly deformed, brain-damaged entity with no consciousness or cognitive ability that exists for a few minutes outside of the womb, then the Munoz family should continue to be subjected to their ongoing emotional torment and the substantial financial burden of medical bills for this unwanted treatment to the corpse of Ms. Munoz.
2014-01-25 05:38:02 PM
1 votes:

SecretAgentWoman: "God" saw fit to kill this woman and the unborn, who are we to judge otherwise?NOW who is playing "God?"!!
Farking religious people all to farking HELL.


Isn't that weird how that works? Well God intended someone to die, that's why they died, right?....oh no he didn't. We can save them!

Get a mob together with some ski masks and rage in there and pull the plugs. I bet it would be easy to get several hundred people to do this. Fark, get a flash mob, just for the LULZ.
2014-01-25 05:25:56 PM
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: cameroncrazy1984: letrole: No dear, all I care about is some fellow with trade-school qualifications making a unilateral decision to let me die

EMTs don't make that decision, dumbass.

People still don't have him on ignore?


Ignoring behavior is learned behavior
2014-01-25 05:21:39 PM
1 votes:

tiamet4: So which of the hospital employees is volunteering to pay the hospital bills and take financial responsibility for the "distinctly abnormal" fetus they care so much about?


Anyone?  Bueller?

Okay then STFU.


I wonder how many of the hospital staff are planning on quitting because of this debacle.  I can't imagine being the doctors, nurses, and CNAs etc are happy about this abomination of medical practice.  I'd just straight up quit.  No paycheck is worth minding a deteriorating corpse with a crackerjack prize inside.

I ghosts were real, that room, fark, that whole floor in the hospital is going to be haunted for decades.
2014-01-25 04:54:23 PM
1 votes:
It's OK. I hear the hospital has a very competent doctor caring for her, a Dr. J. Mengele.
2014-01-25 04:53:47 PM
1 votes:
letrole: It seems that the fact that both parents are EMTs with DNR requests has relevance here. Also, an apparent EMT is posting some fairly heinous fullcappery demanding the death of the baby. But it's hospital staff who want to take extraordinary measures to keep the pregnant woman alive.

One conclusion that can be drawn from this is that if you fall ill or have an accident, you'd better hope like fark you hang on until make it to the floor of the ER.


Less obvious next time, m'kay? No points. Really, you kind of suck at this.
2014-01-25 04:51:30 PM
1 votes:
No matter how this ends, all that will have been accomplished is for a tragedy to have been made even more tragic. I feel so bad for the family involved.
2014-01-25 04:42:36 PM
1 votes:

SilentStrider: They only want to keep the fetus alive in the hopes that it will grow up to vote Republican.


The mother's brain dead. She's already qualified to vote Republican.
2014-01-25 04:36:52 PM
1 votes:

mark12A: What happens next time when the mother gets brain damaged in an accident, and a perfectly healthy baby is inside her?

A whole lot of people are not too eager about establishing a precedent for unplugging pregnant women.

Seems like a whole lot MORE want this baby dead.


Oh, look, a lefty.

Thinks the state knows best.
2014-01-25 04:28:13 PM
1 votes:

SilentStrider: grumpfuff: hardinparamedic: Oh god farking damnit.

This lawyer is human scum.  THERE IS NO FETUS. It is grossly deformed and it's brain is a bag of fluid. It is DEAD. She is  DEAD. Let them go in peace and the family mourn.


Great. Just what we need. Another politician.
2014-01-25 04:23:53 PM
1 votes:
Like I said, and I feel no different here as the Klingons said "It is an empty husk, treat it as such".I'm thinking dumpster behind an Albertsons.
2014-01-25 04:09:30 PM
1 votes:
Baby back ribs?
2014-01-25 04:08:58 PM
1 votes:
morristrust.com

Only Republican senators and congressmen can help us now.

SHINE, GOP!

SHINE, ONCE MORE!
2014-01-25 04:01:40 PM
1 votes:
Cartman's gonna get his Critter Christmas after all!

BLOOD ORGY!
2014-01-25 03:59:21 PM
1 votes:

wildcardjack: Their reason originally was to stay in line with state law. State Judge decrees that removal of life support should go forward. I don't see the problem here, unless there's some fantasy about being brought to some sort of trial for following a judge's orders. And then were in Kafka.


It's kinda mind boggling, to be honest. This is weird ass creepy SciFi type shiat here. Basically the Bene Tleilax from Dune converting dead women into breeding axlotl tanks, or on par with the Cylon breeding farms that hooked women up to life support machines.

What comes next? Parents pay someone to mount up on their brain-dead kid' s warm corpse to impregnate it? Or hubby keeps dead wife plugged in at home for some sexy times for farked up baby making?

shiat, Texas, don't pussy out halfway if you're so hardcore about this. Just cut the dead woman's womb out of her already and hook it up for your sick twisted farking experiments. Clearly, not like they respect or give the slightest shiat about her as a person anyway.

/WTF, Texas
//You used to be cool
2014-01-25 03:57:54 PM
1 votes:

JasonOfOrillia: This is a horrifying abuse of authority.  And an excellent example of the results of letting religious nutters apply their absolutism to the population at large.  Hopefully this will backfire on them.


I think the law was meant to protect Simba from Jafar. Not a religious thing. A greed thing.
2014-01-25 03:54:23 PM
1 votes:
But, they get to use the machine that goes "BING"!!
2014-01-25 03:45:56 PM
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: Nabb1: I don't see how they are on the hook for that if their assertion of that argument was not frivolous. Has the court sanctioned them or said it was a frivolous argument?

As I understand the court ruling that was handed down instructing them to take her off life support, the court said the law was grossly misinterpreted.



Even the guy who wrote the law said it was being misinterpreted.
2014-01-25 03:44:37 PM
1 votes:
What are these fundie sickos going to do? Stand around a wheezing ball of twisted flesh after it's born from an artificially-animated corpse and sing "Yes, Jesus loves me" while it gurgles and yowls itself to death?

I just don't see the slightest thing holy about this at all.

Religion that is used to dominate people instead of comfort them shouldn't be a Constitutional right.
2014-01-25 03:38:31 PM
1 votes:

vpb: SilentStrider: They only want to keep the fetus alive in the hopes that it will grow up to vote Republican.

I don't think that's a requirement in Texas.  They just need to get it an ID card.


vpb: hardinparamedic:

The thing about it is, if they are found to have misapplied or even blatantly lied to the family in the application of this law, the county is liable on the tune of millions of dollars to the family for negligence, malpractice, and even illegal human experimentation for what they have done here.

It's Texas, so I'm guessing that's not much of a worry.


Says the guy from Florida.
2014-01-25 02:29:38 PM
1 votes:
This is like some creepy axotl tank level shiat right here

Can she make the spice?
 
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