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(Metro)   It isn't often that street protests are described as "apocalyptic" but these photos of the riots tearing Kiev apart are a blazing exception   (metro.co.uk) divider line 123
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2014-01-25 10:33:27 AM  
Fallout: Ukraine
 
2014-01-25 10:48:58 AM  
Holy shiat.
 
2014-01-25 11:06:07 AM  
Some parts of Detroit look like that...

and L.A. after the OJ Simpson murder trial
 
2014-01-25 11:06:37 AM  
Hey, 1% are you getting this?
 
2014-01-25 11:07:14 AM  
The second to last one (the guy alone in the gas mask) was a pretty bad ass image
 
2014-01-25 11:07:25 AM  
And they said this couldn't happen in America.
 
2014-01-25 11:07:30 AM  

the_sidewinder: Fallout: Ukraine


metrouk2.files.wordpress.com

War.  War never changes.
 
2014-01-25 11:09:25 AM  
Break out the Collanders!
 
2014-01-25 11:09:50 AM  
Damn.
 
2014-01-25 11:10:02 AM  

diaphoresis: Some parts of Detroit look like that...

and L.A. after the OJ Simpson murder trial


Looks like reruns of the 70's here.
 
2014-01-25 11:10:44 AM  
End of the world..pic 4, in the lower left hand corner is a cat fking a dog.
 
2014-01-25 11:11:54 AM  
 
2014-01-25 11:13:12 AM  
A lot of those pictures, particularly those of people in gas masks, look like the background footage from that cartoon movie Wizards that came out in like 1982.
 
2014-01-25 11:13:58 AM  
all of this world is a pendulum

and when power is consolidated and abused, after a degree it must and will be challenged by those who are oppressed by it.

I hope I don't have to live to see the same here. because often power is challenged many times unsuccessfully before enough martyrs exist to provide the will to finish the job. and that usually equates to a large amount of civilian death

g/l civilians
 
2014-01-25 11:14:10 AM  

snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?


Yeah, why do you think we're not bothering to build anything any more? The 99% will just burn it all down.

/enjoy your ashes of civilization, kids
 
2014-01-25 11:15:14 AM  
"Some people just want to watch the world burn"
 
2014-01-25 11:15:34 AM  
It can happen in a socialist state, because people have nothing to lose - anything destroyed, anyone injured, the tab will be picked up by society.

In the US people have too much personal investment in their lives, so they won't risk this type of open warfare.  Plus the US government is better organized and more vengeful.
 
2014-01-25 11:15:46 AM  

MurphyMurphy: all of this world is a pendulum

and when power is consolidated and abused, after a degree it must and will be challenged by those who are oppressed by it.

I hope I don't have to live to see the same here. because often power is challenged many times unsuccessfully before enough martyrs exist to provide the will to finish the job. and that usually equates to a large amount of civilian death

g/l civilians


--Shia Laboof
 
2014-01-25 11:15:53 AM  
So who won the basketball game?
 
2014-01-25 11:17:32 AM  
They want freedom and they know that allying with Russia is about as far from freedom as they're going to get.  Putin wants to rule with an iron fist over all of the former Soviet Union and the only thing stopping him from using troops to achieve his goals is the chance that the world would step in to stop him.
 
2014-01-25 11:17:53 AM  
I would be upset with Putin getting his grubby hands into the root of my government as well.
 
2014-01-25 11:17:56 AM  
It's been said, but I'll post this anyways:

www.blogcdn.com
 
2014-01-25 11:18:16 AM  

Coconice: A lot of those pictures, particularly those of people in gas masks, look like the background footage from that cartoon movie Wizards that came out in like 1982.


That was a great flick.

My thought was that at least everyone involved was keeping warm.
 
2014-01-25 11:20:38 AM  
Looks like a DLC for Metro: Last Light.
 
2014-01-25 11:21:30 AM  
It looks like it is leading in the direction of a civil war.  But the opposition do not have a majority, so it could be a totalitarian crackdown.
 
2014-01-25 11:21:45 AM  

MemeSlave: It can happen in a socialist state, because people have nothing to lose - anything destroyed, anyone injured, the tab will be picked up by society.

In the US people have too much personal investment in their lives, so they won't risk this type of open warfare.  Plus the US government is better organized and more vengeful.


Feeding trolls, etc,..

Why does everyone think that socialism means nobody owns any property? Furthermore, why does anyone think that current "socialist" countries are actually socialist?

Go to Vietnam (one of the few self-proclaimed socialist states) and steal someone's motorcycle. They're not going to just let you walk away because "society will pick up the tab"
 
2014-01-25 11:23:36 AM  
some of those "protestors" hurling molotovs look more like the riot police themselves/agents provocateurs.

I didn't know protestors came equipped with matching camo, kevlar vests, helmets and gas masks...

farking media.  not sure why the Western media has started downplaying this... I was reading more coverage and support prior to the riots breaking out.  you'd think the Western gov'ts would've cranked up their condemnations of Yanukovich's regime after they started shooting protestors, but I guess not.  my thoughts are either:

1.) given the income disparity and shiatty economic conditions pretty much everywhere in the world right now, NO government wants its people seeing images of civil unrest, regardless of whether they are friendly to Ukraine/Russia or not..

or

2.) after some early diplomatic support for the protests, the western governments all cut deals with Ukraine (read that to mean Vladimir Putin & Russia) to keep out of it... in exchange for something else from Russia.  Who knows what that could be,
 
2014-01-25 11:24:55 AM  
How NOT to Moltov:
metrouk2.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-25 11:25:09 AM  
metrouk2.files.wordpress.com

Did ... did that guy just set fire to his backpack with his molotov cocktail?
 
2014-01-25 11:25:14 AM  

TappingTheVein: Looks like a DLC for Metro: Last Light.


Came here to say that. Currently playing Metro which has this exact look and feel. The game on the other hand is a bit disappointing as it is kind of linear and not all that interesting. But, I got it as a gift on Steam so what the heck.
 
2014-01-25 11:25:19 AM  

snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?



What are they supposed to take from this?  That this is what happens when countries dont join the EU and try to buddy up instead to Russia?
 
2014-01-25 11:25:32 AM  
I have to believe if not for the Olympics Russian tanks would already be rolling.
 
2014-01-25 11:25:40 AM  
That's because this isn't a protest, it's a revolution.
 
2014-01-25 11:25:54 AM  
Jeebus! That is awful looking, looks like a movie set. Still nothing on the news about Ukraine, just the cold weather, Bieber and the Olymipics. I did see a tidbit about the state of the union today.

Good luck to anyone there.
 
2014-01-25 11:26:00 AM  

croesius: How NOT to Moltov:
[metrouk2.files.wordpress.com image 650x477]


Damn it!
 
2014-01-25 11:27:06 AM  
img.fark.net

Good to see you know what the people REALLY want to see, Metro!
 
2014-01-25 11:28:01 AM  

TomD9938: snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?


What are they supposed to take from this?  That this is what happens when countries dont join the EU and try to buddy up instead to Russia?


You are apparently unfamiliar with the current Ukrainian government/kleptocracy...

They don't know enough to call massive handouts from the central exchequer "bailouts" or "subsidies"
 
2014-01-25 11:28:47 AM  
www.best-ever-easy-recipes.com
 
2014-01-25 11:29:52 AM  

lazymojo: 2.) after some early diplomatic support for the protests, the western governments all cut deals with Ukraine (read that to mean Vladimir Putin & Russia) to keep out of it... in exchange for something else from Russia.  Who knows what that could be,


So what you are saying that Obama did a deal with Putin, and then told Fox News to stop showing much about the Kiev riots and they said "Yes, Mr President, anything you say, Mr President"?
 
2014-01-25 11:30:49 AM  
At what point do the police bow to the will of the people?  After all, they are technically civilians themselves.  They are now simply making themselves obsolete and potential fugitives when the next government comes into power.  It seems that the rule of law has broken down and civil war has erupted.  What role do the police now have, who do they serve?
 
2014-01-25 11:31:08 AM  
Wtf is with these people? Can't they get anything done without acting like a bunch of animals, destroying everything?  I sometimes think that Americans are the only civilized folks on Earth.
 
2014-01-25 11:32:12 AM  

lazymojo: 2.) after some early diplomatic support for the protests, the western governments all cut deals with Ukraine (read that to mean Vladimir Putin & Russia) to keep out of it... in exchange for something else from Russia.  Who knows what that could be,


Citation?
 
2014-01-25 11:32:13 AM  

lazymojo: TomD9938: snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?


What are they supposed to take from this?  That this is what happens when countries dont join the EU and try to buddy up instead to Russia?

You are apparently unfamiliar with the current Ukrainian government/kleptocracy...

They don't know enough to call massive handouts from the central exchequer "bailouts" or "subsidies"


Call it what it really is, EXTORTION by the Too Big To Fail.
And this is what it leads to.
Check yer history.
 
2014-01-25 11:32:15 AM  

TappingTheVein: Looks like a DLC for Metro: Last Light.


This.
 
2014-01-25 11:33:43 AM  
In case your humanity needs a rest:

www.rabbit.org
 
2014-01-25 11:33:46 AM  

xria: lazymojo: 2.) after some early diplomatic support for the protests, the western governments all cut deals with Ukraine (read that to mean Vladimir Putin & Russia) to keep out of it... in exchange for something else from Russia.  Who knows what that could be,

So what you are saying that Obama did a deal with Putin, and then told Fox News to stop showing much about the Kiev riots and they said "Yes, Mr President, anything you say, Mr President"?


What if I were to tell you that both Obama and the Whore Media have the same employer and it has nuttin to do with your puny vote thingie?
 
2014-01-25 11:34:17 AM  

Sum Guye: [www.best-ever-easy-recipes.com image 580x380]


Damn you.  Chicken Kiev is my favorite food OF. ALL. TIME.  i used to ask my mom  to make it every year for my birthday.
 
2014-01-25 11:35:05 AM  

rev. dave: It looks like it is leading in the direction of a civil war.  But the opposition do not have a majority, so it could be a totalitarian crackdown.


Voting is what people do as a less damaging and more efficient alternative to replacing the leadership through armed rebellion and civil war. The option for the side that loses the vote to ignore it and wage the civil war anyhow is still there, at all times, because it only takes one side to start a war. However, if the rebels can't muster the poll numbers to win the vote, they almost certainly don't have the military power to win any civil war they start. They can make their name and cause synonymous with senseless vandalism and murderously childish temper tantrums, but that's all they will really accomplish.

/all according to Putin's plan
//unless the rebels actually DO get the military power needed to overthrow the government from somewhere unexpected...
 
2014-01-25 11:35:40 AM  
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing a song of angry men?
It is the music of a people
Who will not be slaves again!
When the beating of your heart
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start
When tomorrow comes!
 
2014-01-25 11:35:42 AM  

snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?


Your hopes that you can take their money will be dashed. No American revolution will happen for the sake of taking the property of others. Go make a living.
 
2014-01-25 11:36:07 AM  

Ima4nic8or: Wtf is with these people? Can't they get anything done without acting like a bunch of animals, destroying everything?  I sometimes think that Americans are the only civilized folks on Earth.


This is how you troll.
 
2014-01-25 11:36:19 AM  
is this the thread where wannabe edward r murrow losers spend a few minutes on wikipaedia trying to figure out who's who before they provide in-depth analysis of how this event has affected them personally?
 
2014-01-25 11:36:46 AM  

snocone: xria: lazymojo: 2.) after some early diplomatic support for the protests, the western governments all cut deals with Ukraine (read that to mean Vladimir Putin & Russia) to keep out of it... in exchange for something else from Russia.  Who knows what that could be,

So what you are saying that Obama did a deal with Putin, and then told Fox News to stop showing much about the Kiev riots and they said "Yes, Mr President, anything you say, Mr President"?

What if I were to tell you that both Obama and the Whore Media have the same employer and it has nuttin to do with your puny vote thingie?


I'd say go back to infowars?
 
2014-01-25 11:37:32 AM  

letrole: is this the thread where wannabe edward r murrow losers spend a few minutes on wikipaedia trying to figure out who's who before they provide in-depth analysis of how this event has affected them personally?


You say that like that's totally not what you just did.
 
2014-01-25 11:38:58 AM  

Standard Deviant: snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?

Your hopes that you can take their money will be dashed. No American revolution will happen for the sake of taking the property of others. Go make a living.


Taking their money is not possible.
Burning all the money is.
Guess which course will be next.
 
2014-01-25 11:39:16 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: letrole: is this the thread where wannabe edward r murrow losers spend a few minutes on wikipaedia trying to figure out who's who before they provide in-depth analysis of how this event has affected them personally?

You say that like that's totally not what you just did.


It's what he does.

/this is how you meta-troll
 
2014-01-25 11:40:28 AM  

snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?


Give us what we want, or we'll burn down our own homes!!!
 
2014-01-25 11:41:08 AM  

snocone: Taking their money is not possible.
Burning all the money is.
Guess which course will be next.


You are aware that a majority of currency in the US isn't...y'know, physical.

Oh who am I kidding, you're a conspiracy theorist so of course you don't have an awareness of reality.
 
2014-01-25 11:41:10 AM  

HAMMERTOE: snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?

Give us what we want, or we'll burn down our own homes!!!


Historically, very accurate.
 
2014-01-25 11:41:34 AM  

the_sidewinder: Fallout: Ukraine


Looks like Metro 2033 to me
 
2014-01-25 11:42:17 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: snocone: Taking their money is not possible.
Burning all the money is.
Guess which course will be next.

You are aware that a majority of currency in the US isn't...y'know, physical.

Oh who am I kidding, you're a conspiracy theorist so of course you don't have an awareness of reality.


You suck at labeling.
Go back to your pigeonhole.
 
2014-01-25 11:42:44 AM  

snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?


That the youth in the Ukraine will riot violently for far less than the youth in the US accepted without blinking?

Yeah, they got that.
 
2014-01-25 11:43:13 AM  

snocone: You suck at labeling.
Go back to your pigeonhole.


I must be right.
 
2014-01-25 11:44:24 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: snocone: You suck at labeling.
Go back to your pigeonhole.

I must be right.


OK, why?
 
2014-01-25 11:46:58 AM  

snocone: cameroncrazy1984: snocone: You suck at labeling.
Go back to your pigeonhole.

I must be right.

OK, why?


Because you didn't offer a response other than to tell me that I suck.
 
2014-01-25 11:47:06 AM  
I'll be in my bun...vault.
 
2014-01-25 11:48:31 AM  

HAMMERTOE: snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?

Give us what we want, or we'll burn down our own homes!!!


Too bad nobody can give them what they want, not even the con artists that have promised them everything if they'll just overthrow the 1%.

/it's not a question of if the burning will commence, but when
//and nothing of value will be lost
///at least, that's what they'll tell themselves, until after it's gone
 
2014-01-25 11:49:38 AM  

snocone: xria: lazymojo: 2.) after some early diplomatic support for the protests, the western governments all cut deals with Ukraine (read that to mean Vladimir Putin & Russia) to keep out of it... in exchange for something else from Russia.  Who knows what that could be,

So what you are saying that Obama did a deal with Putin, and then told Fox News to stop showing much about the Kiev riots and they said "Yes, Mr President, anything you say, Mr President"?

What if I were to tell you that both Obama and the Whore Media have the same employer and it has nuttin to do with your puny vote thingie?


This I agree with. The only way our votes count is if there is less concentrated power in government. Keep yours, I'll keep mine, don't give government enough power that it is worth being co-opted by major financial interests.
 
2014-01-25 11:52:56 AM  

snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?


".. the argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can "throw the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy .."
- Carrol Quigley, Ph.D., Fellow, School of Foreign Service, Georgetown University .. the man whom Bill Clinton claimed as his most important influence
 
2014-01-25 11:53:32 AM  

letrole: is this the thread where wannabe edward r murrow losers spend a few minutes on wikipaedia trying to figure out who's who before they provide in-depth analysis of how this event has affected them personally?


It's like you can actually see me in my bed eating Cheetos. How did you do that? Viva the revolution!! Boo Putin.
 
2014-01-25 11:54:04 AM  
I'm not cleaning that up!
 
2014-01-25 11:55:04 AM  
www.24horas.cl


Kill it!  Kill it with fire!
 
2014-01-25 11:57:51 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?

".. the argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can "throw the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy .."
- Carrol Quigley, Ph.D., Fellow, School of Foreign Service, Georgetown University .. the man whom Bill Clinton claimed as his most important influence


Might make sense if the parties really were autonomous and actually interested in the best for society.
 
2014-01-25 11:59:13 AM  

MemeSlave: It can happen in a socialist state, because people have nothing to lose - anything destroyed, anyone injured, the tab will be picked up by society.

In the US people have too much personal investment in their lives, so they won't risk this type of open warfare.  Plus the US government is better organized and more vengeful.


Uhuh...

blogs.telegraph.co.uk

 
2014-01-25 12:00:00 PM  

Standard Deviant: snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?

Your hopes that you can take their money will be dashed. No American revolution will happen for the sake of taking the property of others. Go make a living.


I wonder how many of the French nobility said similar things prior to 1789?

/ IIRC, the French revolution was started by the middle-class
// then it got out of control...
 
2014-01-25 12:04:21 PM  
How many Americans have nothing to lose?

Frank Zappa sez:
It can't happen here
I'm telling you, my dear
That it can't happen here
Because I been checkin' it out, baby
I checked it out a couple a times,
And I'm telling you
It can't happen here
Oh darling, it's important that you believe me
That it can't happen here
Who could imagine that they would freak out somewhere in kansas...
Who could imagine that they would freak out in minnesota...
That they would freak out in washington, d.c.
It can't happen here
Everybody's safe and it can't happen here
No freaks for us
Everybody's clean and it can't happen here
I'm telling you it can't
It won't happen here
You're safe, mama
Oh, we're gonna get a tv dinner and cook it up
Oh, and it won't happen here
Man you guys are really safe
Everything's cool).
Who could imagine
That they would freak out in the suburbs
They had a swimming pool
I remember (tu-tu)

And they thought it couldn't happen here
(duh duh duh duh duh)
They knew it couldn't happen here
They were so sure it couldn't happen here
 
2014-01-25 12:06:35 PM  
Workers of the World....
 
2014-01-25 12:08:20 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?

".. the argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can "throw the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy .."
- Carrol Quigley, Ph.D., Fellow, School of Foreign Service, Georgetown University .. the man whom Bill Clinton claimed as his most important influence


Can you name the similar policies of the two parties? I'll wait.
 
2014-01-25 12:11:36 PM  
Said before, but any one of those could be cover images for games
/Loading screen?
// that second to last one, definitely
 
2014-01-25 12:17:05 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Clemkadidlefark: snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?

".. the argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can "throw the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy .."
- Carrol Quigley, Ph.D., Fellow, School of Foreign Service, Georgetown University .. the man whom Bill Clinton claimed as his most important influence

Can you name the similar policies of the two parties? I'll wait.


Take your money.
 
2014-01-25 12:21:04 PM  
Lie to you "for your own good".
 
2014-01-25 12:21:58 PM  
Control Wall Street


Aww, fark the flood protection, this could go on all day
 
2014-01-25 12:29:36 PM  
Tyre Pyre would be an ok band name.
 
2014-01-25 12:39:02 PM  

Alebak: [img.fark.net image 305x128]

Good to see you know what the people REALLY want to see, Metro!


After seeing that, watching cute cats is probably a good idea.

Also, whar zombies, whar?
 
2014-01-25 12:43:57 PM  

groppet: Jeebus! That is awful looking, looks like a movie set. Still nothing on the news about Ukraine, just the cold weather, Bieber and the Olymipics. I did see a tidbit about the state of the union today.

Good luck to anyone there.


Try Al Jezeera English online. Even the NYTimes reporting on this has been disappointingly sparse.
 
2014-01-25 12:50:59 PM  

snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?


Is OWS still going on or has that petered out?  Last time I checked, I actually recognized one of the 'spokespersons', and they were a silver spoon child from a 1% neighborhood.
 
2014-01-25 12:51:17 PM  

BigLuca: croesius: How NOT to Moltov:
[metrouk2.files.wordpress.com image 650x477]

Damn it!


14 seconds, that's pretty damn close to a simul!
 
2014-01-25 12:51:46 PM  

lazymojo: some of those "protestors" hurling molotovs look more like the riot police themselves/agents provocateurs.

I didn't know protestors came equipped with matching camo, kevlar vests, helmets and gas masks...

farking media.  not sure why the Western media has started downplaying this... I was reading more coverage and support prior to the riots breaking out.  you'd think the Western gov'ts would've cranked up their condemnations of Yanukovich's regime after they started shooting protestors, but I guess not.  my thoughts are either:

1.) given the income disparity and shiatty economic conditions pretty much everywhere in the world right now, NO government wants its people seeing images of civil unrest, regardless of whether they are friendly to Ukraine/Russia or not..

or

2.) after some early diplomatic support for the protests, the western governments all cut deals with Ukraine (read that to mean Vladimir Putin & Russia) to keep out of it... in exchange for something else from Russia.  Who knows what that could be,


There were pics a few days ago showing police making Molotov cocktails.
And I too am wary about the possible reasons the West is downplaying events. The working photojournalists are rocking out HARD tho.
 
2014-01-25 12:53:42 PM  

lazymojo: I didn't know protestors came equipped with matching camo, kevlar vests, helmets and gas masks...


That's what you get in a former Soviet state with lots of surplus Cold War gear around.  Either they already have it laying around from items being issued to people or the black market probably has everything you could desire.
 
2014-01-25 01:00:47 PM  

the_sidewinder: Fallout: Ukraine


Shut up and take my rubles.
 
2014-01-25 01:05:15 PM  
Get out of here Stalkers.
 
2014-01-25 01:15:38 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Standard Deviant: snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?

Your hopes that you can take their money will be dashed. No American revolution will happen for the sake of taking the property of others. Go make a living.

I wonder how many of the French nobility said similar things prior to 1789?

/ IIRC, the French revolution was started by the middle-class
// then it got out of control...


And strangely, the French Revolution ran out of money within the first week.

/and putting Robespierre himself to the guillotine didn't bring it back
//something something cutting open the goose that laid the golden egg
 
2014-01-25 01:16:49 PM  
Everyone take note: This is what real political change looks like. If your political change doesn't look like this, nothing is really changing, your "betters" are simply using new words to describe what's happening.
 
2014-01-25 01:26:15 PM  
I blame the Ukraines for playing too many violent video games.
 
2014-01-25 01:40:10 PM  
Guys there is a game set in the Ukraine that also has this look.

i755.photobucket.com

Just make sure you install the complete mods for the total experience.
 
2014-01-25 01:41:59 PM  

MemeSlave: It can happen in a socialist state, because people have nothing to lose - anything destroyed, anyone injured, the tab will be picked up by society.

In the US people have too much personal investment in their lives, so they won't risk this type of open warfare.  Plus the US government is better organized and more vengeful.


Detroit in the late 1960s was hardly a socialist state. And riots happened there. Lots of riots. All it takes is pushing people to the point where they have nothing to lose. If too much power/goods/freedom is taken away from a large enough group, this can happen.
 
2014-01-25 01:49:49 PM  
that's gonna leave a mark.
 
2014-01-25 01:55:01 PM  
Whose tax dollars do they think are going to be used to cleanup and rebuild the city after they burn it to the ground?    Bunch of morons.

Protest.  Yes.

Burn your city down.  No.
 
2014-01-25 01:56:03 PM  
Persia does not want the EU anywhere near her champion, let alone her borders.
 
2014-01-25 02:17:59 PM  
Much like the moon landing, those pictures were obviously staged and taken at a Hollywood movie studio.....

/I can tell by the pixels...
 
2014-01-25 02:32:16 PM  

Tatterdemalian: Forbidden Doughnut: Standard Deviant: snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?

Your hopes that you can take their money will be dashed. No American revolution will happen for the sake of taking the property of others. Go make a living.

I wonder how many of the French nobility said similar things prior to 1789?

/ IIRC, the French revolution was started by the middle-class
// then it got out of control...

And strangely, the French Revolution ran out of money within the first week.

/and putting Robespierre himself to the guillotine didn't bring it back
//something something cutting open the goose that laid the golden egg


Maybe just a tiny bit of self control on the part of the 1% could avert the inevitable,,,
Oh hell, what was I thinking.
 
2014-01-25 02:54:58 PM  

lazymojo: I didn't know protestors came equipped with matching camo, kevlar vests, helmets and gas masks...


Turn on your cable TV and check out Duck Dynasty, Doomsday Preppers, whatever Ted Nugent's show was...it's really not all that uncommon for a human to have military-like stuffs like lying around.

Plus, it's Eastern Europe, they probably just went and borrowed their older brother's leftovers from the last ethnic cleansing or something.
 
2014-01-25 03:04:32 PM  
Am I the only one picturing Sepultura's 'Refuse Resist' playing in the background?
 
2014-01-25 03:08:59 PM  
Cocktail for two.

metrouk2.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-25 03:09:52 PM  

snocone: xria: lazymojo: 2.) after some early diplomatic support for the protests, the western governments all cut deals with Ukraine (read that to mean Vladimir Putin & Russia) to keep out of it... in exchange for something else from Russia.  Who knows what that could be,

So what you are saying that Obama did a deal with Putin, and then told Fox News to stop showing much about the Kiev riots and they said "Yes, Mr President, anything you say, Mr President"?

What if I were to tell you that both Obama and the Whore Media have the same employer and it has nuttin to do with your puny vote thingie?


What if I were to tell you that, despite your conspiracy theories, most people involved in politics  actually believe in what they're saying?

/I mean, most right-wingers are wingnuts, but they'll stand up for their beliefs no matter what the cost.
 
2014-01-25 03:16:07 PM  
Lots of self-restraint ( rules of engagement ) for the Riot Police NOT to shoot back often/ so much... when the protestors have both the gas-bombs and guns/ clubs/spears/ etc... and the farking Trebuchet! Wowza, going all medieval on their a$$... but still not a lot of protestor casualties due to police gunfire/ return fire/ self defense.
 
2014-01-25 03:21:02 PM  

PsiChick: snocone: xria: lazymojo: 2.) after some early diplomatic support for the protests, the western governments all cut deals with Ukraine (read that to mean Vladimir Putin & Russia) to keep out of it... in exchange for something else from Russia.  Who knows what that could be,

So what you are saying that Obama did a deal with Putin, and then told Fox News to stop showing much about the Kiev riots and they said "Yes, Mr President, anything you say, Mr President"?

What if I were to tell you that both Obama and the Whore Media have the same employer and it has nuttin to do with your puny vote thingie?

What if I were to tell you that, despite your conspiracy theories, most people involved in politics  actually believe in what they're saying?

/I mean, most right-wingers are wingnuts, but they'll stand up for their beliefs no matter what the cost.


Needs work, but, with a little twirking here and there, this comedy could go Letterman.
 
2014-01-25 03:59:54 PM  

snocone: Tatterdemalian: Forbidden Doughnut: Standard Deviant: snocone: Hey, 1% are you getting this?

Your hopes that you can take their money will be dashed. No American revolution will happen for the sake of taking the property of others. Go make a living.

I wonder how many of the French nobility said similar things prior to 1789?

/ IIRC, the French revolution was started by the middle-class
// then it got out of control...

And strangely, the French Revolution ran out of money within the first week.

/and putting Robespierre himself to the guillotine didn't bring it back
//something something cutting open the goose that laid the golden egg

Maybe just a tiny bit of self control on the part of the 1% could avert the inevitable,,,
Oh hell, what was I thinking.


And the French were not the pussies that the emo hipster OWS crowd are.  You are all pussies easily pacified by whining on the Internet and watching the Daily Show. You are neutered animals not even worth caging.
 
2014-01-25 04:18:23 PM  

Farty McPooPants: At what point do the police bow to the will of the people?  After all, they are technically civilians themselves.  They are now simply making themselves obsolete and potential fugitives when the next government comes into power.  It seems that the rule of law has broken down and civil war has erupted.  What role do the police now have, who do they serve?


Well the nice lady posting a few days ago explained that Ukraine is still largely tribal politics.  Different states all trying to con their way to the top and then give huge handouts to their people while telling the rest to piss up a rope and turning to Don Putin's Russian Mafia whenever shiat isn't going their way enough.

So we've got a man who poisoned his opponent with Agent Orange and known to have committed acts of thuggery (and a rapist, because why not?) who has a slim coalition of power players working with him while farking over the rest.

And even that is an over-simplification, President Viktor Yanukovich lost the first go-round to Viktor Yuschenko (who helped him jail Yulia Tymoshenko I believe AFTER the poisoning because the enemy of my enemy is fark you too biatch) got around 35% of the vote because the other groups couldn't form enough of a coalition to beat him.  And Yanukovich was talking up and promising sunshine and rainbows and European playdates out his ass, but instead of ass-rainbows he keeps giving playoffs to Pooty-Poot because he keeps coming up short and asking the Mafia for more "favors" to solve his problems.

The protesters can burn shiat, they could probably even win a vote of No Confidence if it existed in their constitution but they can't organize and when it came time for an election they'd probably just watch Yanukovich go right back into power.  Or someone they hate even more.

And I'm not an expert, this is like layer 2 of 30 or something.
 
2014-01-25 04:41:28 PM  
Don't say you never learn something on Fark.

AGENT ORANGE, It was a mixture of equal parts of two herbicides, 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D(weed-b-gon)
AND AND AND a toxic contaminant Dioxin, the real killer in the toxicology.
Dioxin is expensive to remove in the manufacturing process.
So the cheapest bidder got the go for manufacturing the megatonage we sprayed, for Peace.

Welcome, Bros to the Agent Orange Health Club, thanks for your service.
 
2014-01-25 04:52:32 PM  
Sadly, it looks like things will get worse in Ukraine before they get better.

Also, credit where credit is due, that is an AMAZING photographer.   Or, he's a really good photographer who is also really good at touching-up the photo with photoshop.  And by touching-up, I just mean working with the lighting, colors, filters, etc. to get the most from the image - generally legitimate stuff.  I'm no expert, but I'd guess that its probably the later case, as those pictures look more vibrant than real life.
 
2014-01-25 04:58:04 PM  

Chris45215: Sadly, it looks like things will get worse in Ukraine before they get better.

Also, credit where credit is due, that is an AMAZING photographer.   Or, he's a really good photographer who is also really good at touching-up the photo with photoshop.  And by touching-up, I just mean working with the lighting, colors, filters, etc. to get the most from the image - generally legitimate stuff.  I'm no expert, but I'd guess that its probably the later case, as those pictures look more vibrant than real life.


Wag the Dog is a real thing.
 
2014-01-25 06:05:02 PM  

snocone: Chris45215: Sadly, it looks like things will get worse in Ukraine before they get better.

Also, credit where credit is due, that is an AMAZING photographer.   Or, he's a really good photographer who is also really good at touching-up the photo with photoshop.  And by touching-up, I just mean working with the lighting, colors, filters, etc. to get the most from the image - generally legitimate stuff.  I'm no expert, but I'd guess that its probably the later case, as those pictures look more vibrant than real life.

Wag the Dog is a real thing.


What about Rape the Cat?
 
2014-01-25 06:17:10 PM  

omnibus_necanda_sunt: snocone: Chris45215: Sadly, it looks like things will get worse in Ukraine before they get better.

Also, credit where credit is due, that is an AMAZING photographer.   Or, he's a really good photographer who is also really good at touching-up the photo with photoshop.  And by touching-up, I just mean working with the lighting, colors, filters, etc. to get the most from the image - generally legitimate stuff.  I'm no expert, but I'd guess that its probably the later case, as those pictures look more vibrant than real life.

Wag the Dog is a real thing.

What about Rape the Cat?


Don't taunt the monkey.
 
2014-01-25 06:45:28 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-25 07:10:48 PM  

sexorcisst: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 600x450]


That is a damned fine hat.  Americans know how to rock a hat.

And thank you, TheBigJerk, for that reply.  Sounds like the police are using a containment strategy to keep things from boiling over and causing that coalition to form.  Things could get real ugly real fast if Putin were to decide to step in and go all Hungarian Uprising on them.  No one could claim he didn't move in at the request of the people when no one knows who is actually speaking for the people.  So, keep them fractured and fighting amongst themselves and that keeps the tanks from rolling and the wholesale rape to a minimum.
The whole thing sounds hellish.
 
2014-01-25 08:13:13 PM  

MemeSlave: It can happen in a socialist state, because people have nothing to lose - anything destroyed, anyone injured, the tab will be picked up by society.

In the US people have too much personal investment in their lives, so they won't risk this type of open warfare.  Plus the US government is better organized and more vengeful.


Quite the opposite. I've seen much more respect for public property in Europe than in the U.S.
 
2014-01-25 08:14:22 PM  
oh the humannequiny.  that picture was really disturbing until I blew it up and saw what it was.
 
2014-01-25 08:45:26 PM  
Yanukovych is a coward. He is weak.
 
2014-01-25 10:00:43 PM  

Farty McPooPants: sexorcisst: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 600x450]

That is a damned fine hat.  Americans know how to rock a hat.

And thank you, TheBigJerk, for that reply.  Sounds like the police are using a containment strategy to keep things from boiling over and causing that coalition to form.   Things could get real ugly real fast if Putin were to decide to step in and go all Hungarian Uprising on them.  No one could claim he didn't move in at the request of the people when no one knows who is actually speaking for the people.  So, keep them fractured and fighting amongst themselves and that keeps the tanks from rolling and the wholesale rape to a minimum.
The whole thing sounds hellish.


Eh, maybe.  The impressions I'm getting are that Viktor Y. the Second (this will not stop being funny) is only barely clinging to power by loudly and roundly denying and Mansplaining that he just keeps tripping and falling on Putin's cock instead of intentionally slurping away.  Putin rolls in and suddenly all the locals have one great big and universally-hated target instead of a bunch of crooks trying to out-sleaze and outmaneuver each other.   I mean they aren't the Kurds, they don't want to murder their neighbors, just rob them a little.

But I'm some southern white boy in Texas so what the fark do I actually know?
 
2014-01-26 12:13:18 AM  

Chris45215: Sadly, it looks like things will get worse in Ukraine before they get better.

Also, credit where credit is due, that is an AMAZING photographer.   Or, he's a really good photographer who is also really good at touching-up the photo with photoshop.  And by touching-up, I just mean working with the lighting, colors, filters, etc. to get the most from the image - generally legitimate stuff.  I'm no expert, but I'd guess that its probably the later case, as those pictures look more vibrant than real life.


Most pro photogs I know actually use Lightroom for that stuff.
 
2014-01-26 12:26:02 AM  

Farty McPooPants: sexorcisst: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 600x450]

That is a damned fine hat.  Americans know how to rock a hat.

And thank you, TheBigJerk, for that reply.  Sounds like the police are using a containment strategy to keep things from boiling over and causing that coalition to form.  Things could get real ugly real fast if Putin were to decide to step in and go all Hungarian Uprising on them.  No one could claim he didn't move in at the request of the people when no one knows who is actually speaking for the people.  So, keep them fractured and fighting amongst themselves and that keeps the tanks from rolling and the wholesale rape to a minimum.
The whole thing sounds hellish.


Actually a Russian offensive would have the effect of uniting ethnic Ukrainians right farking quick. I was actually thinking about visiting Kyiv in the late summer since I figure my russian would be up to snuff for travel and Kyiv is bilingual russian/ukrainian for the most part. And beautiful. The seat of western civilization in some ways. I have a few friends that I've been reaching out to that I know through a Ukrainian immigrant who came over here with her mother in the 90's. They say this is mostly an internal fight over joining the EU and saying screw Russian sanctions if they do. But one thing they're pretty adamant about save for a few of those who are ethnically Russian is that Putin sending tanks down would pretty much result in everyone grabbing their gear to kick some Russian ass regardless of what side they're on in the EU debate. There's a ton of bad blood over Russian abuses of the Ukrainian people in the past, specifically the slavs. Not to mention the fact that Ukraine's economy was armament based until the fall of the USSR and much of that tooling is still there. Putin would have a bloody fight on his hands.
 
2014-01-26 07:34:41 AM  

Coconice: A lot of those pictures, particularly those of people in gas masks, look like the background footage from that cartoon movie Wizards that came out in like 1982.


Love that movie. Also, the similar Light Years. Check them out folks!
 
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