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(CBC)   Consumers rushing to stock up on Marmite because it contains ingredients illegal in Canada. "It's nuts," he said. "I think The Independent ... said, what is wrong with Canada? They sell guns and they won't sell Marmite?"...that about covers it"   (cbc.ca) divider line 17
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2014-01-25 01:05:30 AM
3 votes:
unbelievable


...that anyone would be upset if something as hideous as marmite was banned.
2014-01-25 12:54:09 AM
2 votes:
I think it's bullshait. In reporting..a scare tactic by conservatives.

They did this before with vegimite and it turned out to be Bullshait.

Read between the lines:

Michael Cox, who has owned the Scottish and Irish Store in Ottawa's west end for 10 years, said he hasn't had any shipments denied by customs. He did say losing these products would be a blow to his business.

Earlier this week, a Saskatoon store owner said the Canadian Food Inspection Agency notified him that some ingredients in the products he sold were banned in Canada.


I'd like to see more proof of that. Was it "GET RID OF MARMITE!" in such blunt lanuage...or saying "here's a list of dyes and stuff we ban" .and the dude went through his inventory and raised a stink about marmite for a teabaggery canada biatch fest?

Those laws have been in place for ages..and yet..marmite still exists in Canada.
2014-01-26 03:10:18 PM
1 votes:

Great Porn Dragon: abhorrent1: Flint Ironstag: abhorrent1: Vlad_the_Inaner: abhorrent1: Can someone please explain to me what Marmite is exactly?

Beer making dregs treated with salt until the yeast explode, then cooked

Well that sounds absolutely disgusting.

It's impossible to describe. Try it. Spend a few dollars on a jar and put some on toast. A tiny amount though, don't spread it like peanut butter. Try for a layer one millimetre thick.

Can you even get it in the US? I've never seen it although I've never really looked either.

As noted earlier in the thread, it's surprisingly available...in fact, between Vegemite and Marmite, I've found the latter more available and pretty much everywhere here (largest city in KY) that has a gourmet and/or "foreign foods" section tends to sell it.  (Meijer sells it (in the British Foods section), Cost Plus World Market (foreign import place) sells it, Fresh Market (gourmet place) sells it, the Liquor Barn (large liquor warehouse chain here with a gourmet foods section) sells the stuff.  About the only places that DON'T sell it are Kroger and Wal-Mart and Target.)


I said earlier... look in the yeast section in the baking supplies. It makes more sense to put it in with other spreadables, jams and peanut butter, etc.... but if they don't know... and it says "yeast" on the label, they might put it there. A store I used to go had it there. (And it was a rather small regional chain.)
2014-01-25 07:57:47 PM
1 votes:

nytmare: What the heck is the difference among marmite, vegemite, and nutella? Who eats these jars of brown sticky goop and why.


Marmite and Vegemite I don't know the exact difference between.... they're both horrendous-smelling high-vitamin yeasty goo. I don't know how people eat it either, the smell alone is enough to make me gag.

Nutella, though, is made of chocolate and hazelnuts (and has pictures of them on the jar, even). Like a cross between chocolate frosting and peanut butter, which, you know, are also brown sticky goop. Not even remotely the same thing as the other two.
2014-01-25 02:50:02 PM
1 votes:

MrBallou: Well, Cananada, sitting there all smug about your Health Care system, your (mostly) non-insane politics, your hockey teams and your Tim Hortons. Looks like the Americans aren't the only ones who can go into blind panic over a phony crisis.


Except for the part where absolutely nobody went into a blind panic. RTFA. A store owner and one of his regular customers said they would be upset if they couldn't buy certain foods anymore.
2014-01-25 02:28:50 PM
1 votes:

nytmare: What the heck is the difference among marmite, vegemite, and nutella? Who eats these jars of brown sticky goop and why.


Marmite is a yeast extract-based spread product. Vegemite leans heavier on the vegetables, nutella leans heavier on nuts and chocolate. Bovril is made largely with beef. They differ in their recipes and thus flavour. They were sold as health products and nutritional supplements but are consumed as comfort foods and by some people, as quasi-addictive foods, not unlike peanut butter or cheeze spread. They appeal strongly to expats.

They are all made more or less the same way by reducing the water content of pureed food, not unlike bouillon cubes, but spreadable.

They are consumed mainly by the sort of person you would expect to live on peanut butter and bread, or cookies and milk, or other cheap, easy-to-eat from the jar products. Mostly they are bread spreads, but the more confectionery-like products might be spread on tea breads or biscuits.

They seem to appeal to tea-drinkers rather than coffee-drinkers: Australia, New Zealand, the UK are the biggest markets, with some Canadian and American fans as well.

The American comfort food products which originated as health food or moral-fibre heavy anti-sex food are things like cornflakes and graham wafers, but spreads seem to be more generally anglo-saxon.
2014-01-25 02:16:25 PM
1 votes:

Candygram4Mongo: log_jammin: unbelievable


...that anyone would be upset if something as hideous as marmite was banned.

optikeye: If you have one jar of marmite you pretty much have a 10 year supply.

...and the horses you rode in on, gentlemen!

Marmite is a fantastic source of B vitamins. Combine that with Vitamin C, you have a marvelous stress reliever. I depend on it.

My 250g jar is almost empty, a few glops at the bottom. Spare unopened jar at the ready...


That's why the Government bans these type of product--they are fortified with vitamins and minerals but blur the line between food and nutriceuticals that are tested and safe.

But they are kinda lax about it.

The Government says that these ingredients are banned, but they consider the food products themselves as pretty harmless and so they don't go out of their way to block them.

Irn Bru (pronounce Iron Brew) is an orange soft drink with a dye that is linked to hyperactivity. But hyperactivity won't kill you or the kids.

Given the small consumer base in Canada (mostly nostalgic immigrants and retirees) they can't do much harm. The biggest danger is that some health nut will OD on the vitamins and minerals they take while eatiing way too much of these fortified products with dubious claims to health benefits--as dubious as a macrobiotic diet or high doses of vitamins.

One of several articles I looked at mentioned that meat products such as Bovril, Steak & Kidney pie and beef are still banned from the UK". This is because of Mad Cow disease--maybe a bit of protectionism. The UK producers argue their beef is safe. The Canadian producers argue that Canadian beef is safe. The US producers argue that American beef is safe. Nonetheless, it's not entirely sure and every country tends to restrict foreign beef. Canada is complaining about South Korea and Japan while the US and the UK complain about us.

So there you have it. A circle jerk of protectionism and precautionary barriers to potentially dangerous products.

The Government is not being crazy bossy about this stuff. There are risks but they are small. They do the reasonable thing: warn people off but without a lot of enforcement. Only the madly passionate consumer and the politically-interested care, and they are few.

The science of food safety and health is fought back and forth over products like these. It's a war of attrition with few casualties other than scientific or medical credibility. Some day we may find out that things like health food were really very useless or dangerous, just like in Woody Allen's Sleeper. Perhaps steaks and milk shakes were the real health food, as they thought in the 1950s and early 60s. Perhaps you can eat your weight in a thousand foods that would kill a rat farm's worth of test subjects and your little dog too.

After all, we can eat chocolate but it can make a dog or cat really sick or dead.

Only a small number of vitamins, minerals and food supplements are really good or really dangerous. Much of the field is very fuzzy--some seem to benefit, some to suffer. The placebo and noicebo effects may be playing a large role. We just have no proof either way.

I am a fan of vitamin B because the women in my Mother's family tend to have a problem absorbing it and I figure it can't hurt me either to take a supplement. I believe strongly in anti-inflammatory agents but don't believe they will cure or cause or prevent serious problems like heart problems or diabetes.

This is the moderate middle road. You don't believe either side in the food fight, but you do realize you need a balanced diet and a bit of insurance is cheap and will not hurt you. You can always drop pills or reduce dosages if the science clicks into place.

Just ignore anybody who has anything to sell, even if the product is smugness, righteousness, or health and happiness. They are probably at least half cranks. I don't believe everything my doctor says. I know how ignorant and stupid doctors can be. I have nurses in my family. They spend their working day making doctors look a whole lot more on the ball than they really are. Just call me an intelligent and moderate skeptic.

If I encounter a serious problem, I'll know more about it than the doctor does, but I definitely try to avoid hypochondria and crankery.
2014-01-25 01:36:44 PM
1 votes:

nytmare: What the heck is the difference among marmite, vegemite, and nutella? Who eats these jars of brown sticky goop and why.


Flavor: It's like asking what is the difference between Pepsi and Dr Pepper. People have a preference for one or the other, they do taste noticeably different if you pay attention.

Texture: Marmite is gooey, Vegemite is thick like school paste. But if you notice the texture when you eat it, you're eating way too much per mouthful.

Vitamins: Marmite has one vitamin that Vegemite doesn't, at least according to the labels. I don't remember which one was missing.
2014-01-25 01:23:15 PM
1 votes:

jchuffyman: I live in Russia, and I fell in love with Marmite when a British friend decided to bring me some back from the UK (along with some HP sauce). I am moving back to the US in a few months, and considering that I have never seen it for sale anywhere in America, I'm hoping I can find some way to get it. I guess Google is my friend


$5.45, free shipping, from Amazon Pretty amazing price, considering that it's coming from the UK.
2014-01-25 12:59:37 PM
1 votes:
from my personal experience Marmite taste better than Vegemite but that's realy not saying much.
2014-01-25 12:55:00 PM
1 votes:
Remember back in 2006 when they said the same thing for the USA?

...Yeah, that.
2014-01-25 12:53:35 PM
1 votes:

Apos: In a statement, the CFIA said that, while those products are not allowed, it did not remove them from store shelves [as] they don't pose a health risk to consumers


Mixed messaging a tad, eh?


Not entirely.  Governments don't have unlimited resources to enforce laws.  And some laws are still on the books but really not applicable.  Might be some sort of liability for the shop owner if he knowingly carries them and someone gets all sue happy for a dumbass reason, but 'the government said it was fine' is probably a valid defense.

See also: marijuana laws, federal enforcement over state
2014-01-25 12:49:10 PM
1 votes:

optikeye: Michael Cox, who has owned the Scottish and Irish Store in Ottawa's west end for 10 years, said he hasn't had any shipments denied by customs. He did say losing these products would be a blow to his business.

Earlier this week, a Saskatoon store owner said the Canadian Food Inspection Agency notified him that some ingredients in the products he sold were banned in Canada.

I'd like to see more proof of that. Was it "GET RID OF MARMITE!" in such blunt lanuage...or saying "here's a list of dyes and stuff we ban" .and the dude went through his inventory and raised a stink about marmite for a teabaggery canada biatch fest?

Those laws have been in place for ages..and yet..marmite still exists in Canada.


1) Bingo
2) Really lazy headline, subby
3)

Great Porn Dragon: Hell, if you're lucky enough to live in a state where there are large liquor stores with a decent gourmet section THEY will have it; the Meijer's and Cost Plus World Market (the latter of which is a national chain) carry the stuff, and the big liquor store chains with gourmet sections in KY carry it (Party Source and Liquor Barn)...and if we can get it in Kentucky, SURELY you can get it where you live.


Seriously.  Also, the internet.  But I do heart Meijer.  Their international selection is tiny but generally pretty darn well thought out.  So when I suddenly realize the SO ate all the Polish dill pickles I need to make the soup I've already started cooking, I'm not screwed. Thanks, Meijer!

Cost Plus food/candy section was also the source of many a cheap quirky gift add-on when I was in high school, until I was brave enough to go into the Chinese/Vietnamese/whatever markets and just buy rice candy and Pocky there.
2014-01-25 12:33:27 PM
1 votes:
whatscookingamerica.net

FTW

/Marmite is the slimy takeoff of this great product.
2014-01-25 12:26:56 PM
1 votes:

nytmare: What the heck is the difference among marmite, vegemite, and nutella? Who eats these jars of brown sticky goop and why.


I'm not sure about the *mites, but Nutella is not close to being the same thing. That's like confusing Hershey's syrup with marmite
2014-01-25 07:35:16 AM
1 votes:
Hmmm... business has been slow this winter - what can I do to pick it back up?

"OH NO, EVERYBODY! THE BIG BAD GOVERNMENT WANTS TO TAKE AWAY YOUR BELOVED YEAST PASTE! BETTER COME ON DOWN AND BUY A FARK TON FROM ME WHILE YOU STILL CAN!"
2014-01-25 12:33:50 AM
1 votes:
Added irony: One of the banned products is a meat-based beverage called Bovril. It was invented by a Canadian before the Australians came up with Marmite. But a law's a law.
 
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