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(AZ Family)   As part of his efforts to promote patriotism in his jails, Sheriff Joe Arpaio puts inmates on a bread and water diet if they deface the American flag decals he makes mandatory in every cell   (azfamily.com) divider line 73
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2014-01-25 10:42:34 AM  
9 votes:

Endive Wombat: I gotta tell ya...I am genuinely shocked that:

1.  He has not been removed from his position, sued to the end of the Earth by the ACLU/former inmates under his care...or been placed under investigation by the Justice Dept.

2.  He has not been killed yet.  Seriously, it amazes me to no end that he and his family are still alive.  I cannot imagine that he has an entourage of heavily armed guards around him and his family 100% of the time.  There also has to be more than one former inmate who would gladly go back to prison if it meant causing some sort of pain for him and his family.


1. He's been sued plenty and DOJ is still after him.
2. He travels with a posse of bodyguards

We can only hope they'll manage to throw his ass in jail before he dies of old age

Sheriff Joe's patriotism would be much more impressive if he believed in things like the Constitution.
2014-01-25 01:39:38 PM  
8 votes:
It amazes me that the folks who have a fetishistic love for the flag think the left is fascist.
2014-01-25 10:30:58 AM  
6 votes:
I gotta tell ya...I am genuinely shocked that:

1.  He has not been removed from his position, sued to the end of the Earth by the ACLU/former inmates under his care...or been placed under investigation by the Justice Dept.

2.  He has not been killed yet.  Seriously, it amazes me to no end that he and his family are still alive.  I cannot imagine that he has an entourage of heavily armed guards around him and his family 100% of the time.  There also has to be more than one former inmate who would gladly go back to prison if it meant causing some sort of pain for him and his family.
2014-01-25 02:58:12 PM  
5 votes:
Nothing says rehabilitation and reincorporation into normal society than removing every semblance of pleasure or normalcy from an inmates life. You could put up a picture of my wife and children in one of those cells and i would slowly rip it off the wall just to provide myself with at least a little a bit of intellectual stimulation. I love my wife and kids and having them be a part of that decrepit environment would drive me insane. I'm a disabled vet and love this country, but i would tear the flag down as well. Nothing i've heard or seen of that prison makes me think, "That's what America stands for right there!"

He tries to say that he removes every excess from his prisons so that he can save the tax payers money, but then he adds these American Flag decals that costs his constituency money and is SURPRISED when some take out aggression on an inanimate object that symbolizes everything that the prison they are occupying is not.

That's like telling occupants of a paradise that they can do anything they want, except one thing. And if they do that one thing, they are banished. Why else have that one thing there?

I wouldn't be surprised if he started installing sturdy hooks on the ceilings and providing the prisoners with rope.
2014-01-25 02:01:36 PM  
4 votes:
Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore
© John Prine


While digesting Reader's Digest
In the back of a dirty book store,
A plastic flag, with gum on the back,
Fell out on the floor.
Well, I picked it up and I ran outside
Slapped it on my window shield,
And if I could see old Betsy Ross
I'd tell her how good I feel.

Chorus:
But your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more.
They're already overcrowded
From your dirty little war.
Now Jesus don't like killin'
No matter what the reason's for,
And your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more.

Well, I went to the bank this morning
And the cashier he said to me,
"If you join the Christmas club
We'll give you ten of them flags for free."
Well, I didn't mess around a bit
I took him up on what he said.
And I stuck them stickers all over my car
And one on my wife's forehead.
Repeat Chorus:

Well, I got my window shield so filled
With flags I couldn't see.
So, I ran the car upside a curb
And right into a tree.
By the time they got a doctor down
I was already dead.
And I'll never understand why the man
Standing in the Pearly Gates said...

"But your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more.
We're already overcrowded
From your dirty little war.
Now Jesus don't like killin'
No matter what the reason's for,
And your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more."
2014-01-25 11:31:07 AM  
4 votes:
"Sheriff Arpaio is a Korean War veteran and a big patriot fascist," said Chrisopher Hegstrom, a spokesman for the Sheriff's Office.

FTFY
2014-01-25 02:46:51 PM  
3 votes:
Like All Republicans, Sheriff Joe Arpaio believes that "patriotism" means "believe what I believe or I will kill you". This is, and always has been, the mainstream Republican viewpoint on patriotism. For other examples of Mainstream Republican Patriots, see: Ted Nugent, John Birch, Rush Limbaugh, Vox Day, and whoever is the current Grand Dragon of the KKK.
2014-01-25 02:26:00 PM  
3 votes:
This will most likely instill a great sense of patriotism and a healthy fear of disrespecting our cheap plastic  chinese made glue backed symbol of freedom.
2014-01-25 02:13:36 PM  
3 votes:

skinink: The voters in his area keep electing him. They want this idiot in office then I can't be outraged over their pick. Obviously the Arizona voters are okay with his behavior.


I'm sure the American citizens that he's rounded up and detained in violation of their constitutional rights would beg to differ.


cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?


Other than the fact that it's expensive, a boondoggle for drug testing companies, finds drug rates at a lower level than the general population and is generally used to shame people who are poor, nothing at all.
2014-01-25 02:11:53 PM  
3 votes:

HMS_Blinkin: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: This is Phoenix, not some small town in the backwaters of Mississippi where the warden gets to do whatever he wants and nobody can stop him.

I dunno, Joe's been getting away with a LOT of seriously shady shiat (that has at times been very expensive for taxpayers) for a LONG time now.

cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?

Well, in Florida, the welfare recipients had to pay for their own drug tests, and the largest drug-testing company in the state happened to be owned  by the Governor's wife.  I don't think that liberals have a problem with trying to keep welfare recipients off drugs, but we DO have a problem with orchestrated efforts to transfer wealth from the poor to the rich using legislation----which is what these GOP-backed "reforms" have really amounted to.


Yeah, and this whole thing really has nothing to do with the treatment of prisoners as far as I'm concerned.  It's yet another bullshiat "Sheriff Joe" trick to get the morons who vote for him all worked up so they won't notice that he's a corrupt as hell scumbag who should be eating bread and water in one of those cells himself.
2014-01-25 01:55:51 PM  
3 votes:
'And if a stranger dwells with you in your land, you shall not mistreat him.'

'The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself'

- Leviticus 19:33-34

God's not one of your fans, Joey boy.
2014-01-25 01:47:04 PM  
3 votes:

pueblonative: As for 2, Joe's probably hired more people to fake assasinate him than anybody else.


Holy shiat!  So that farker staged a fake assassination (on the taxpayer's dime), committed entrapment and wrongfully jailed someone, and THEN cost the county $1.6 million in the ensuing lawsuit.  Why the fark is he still in office?!?!  How farking stupid are people?
2014-01-25 01:35:36 PM  
3 votes:
Reading the comments in the link make me want to move to another country.
2014-01-25 11:36:17 AM  
3 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I wonder if it's working.

What is Joe's recidivism rate?
Is crime down or up, compared to the national average?
What's his cost per inmate?


In short: No, it's not.

Violent crime as a whole is down in Arizona per capita. The only area it continues to rise is in Joe's district.
2014-01-25 10:43:11 AM  
3 votes:

Endive Wombat: I gotta tell ya...I am genuinely shocked that:

1.  He has not been removed from his position, sued to the end of the Earth by the ACLU/former inmates under his care...or been placed under investigation by the Justice Dept.


A. Thank the Snowbirds who don't have to pay for Schmoe Arpayoso's crap
B. He has been sued, multiple times
C. justice Department dropped their investigation a while back.

As for 2, Joe's probably hired more people to fake assasinate him than anybody else.
2014-01-25 03:28:46 PM  
2 votes:

Popular Opinion: yes, i will go out on a limb and say at least 2 low lifes have left the jurisdiction for places with better jail accommodations.


I'm sure some of the 400 or so sex crime victims he ignored have left the jurisdiction for places with better judicial systems as well.
2014-01-25 03:18:37 PM  
2 votes:

cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?


Because it's expensive as fark and has no useful results. People on welfare are not inherently druggies.
2014-01-25 03:00:20 PM  
2 votes:
Look at the demographics of his district...white people and lots of 'em. Arizona is a retirement mecca for old white people plus there's plenty of cowboy redneck types there, too. Anyone who locks up them dirty Messicans will get their vote. He plays Great White Avenger and the honkies collectively swoon.

Yes, it is about race. They don't call the place Aryanzona for nothing.
2014-01-25 02:12:04 PM  
2 votes:

cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?


The problem is that it costs waaay more to do the drug testing than is saved by finding one drug user among millions of welfare recipients who tests positive. I'm exaggerating the numbers, but Florida paid $20 million for drug testing and saved $20k because one person tested positive.

Of course, Gov. Gollum got kickbacks and sweetheart deals from the contractor that did the testing, and...it's Florida for chrissakes.
2014-01-25 02:11:27 PM  
2 votes:
Many prisons are phasing out nutriloaf for various reasons, including to preempt impending cruel punishment lawsuits. Also, it binds you up pretty good, since it's so dense and most people don't drink enough water to replace what's not in their food.

Either way, joes a sociopath elected by a constituency of sociopaths.
2014-01-25 02:09:16 PM  
2 votes:
White knights for ol'Joe. Whodathunkit?
2014-01-25 02:08:54 PM  
2 votes:

Duke_leto_Atredes: Popular Opinion: KidneyStone: I'm ok with this.

It's not that it's the flag, it's that it's destruction of government property and negative behavior.

Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.

is it possible these people are awaiting trial and not actually guilty of anything?

They would not be in jail if they had not broken the law.


///don't get caught motherfarker


You really don't understand the difference between jail and prison, don't you sweet'ums?
2014-01-25 02:08:27 PM  
2 votes:

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: This is Phoenix, not some small town in the backwaters of Mississippi where the warden gets to do whatever he wants and nobody can stop him.


I dunno, Joe's been getting away with a LOT of seriously shady shiat (that has at times been very expensive for taxpayers) for a LONG time now.

cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?


Well, in Florida, the welfare recipients had to pay for their own drug tests, and the largest drug-testing company in the state happened to be owned  by the Governor's wife.  I don't think that liberals have a problem with trying to keep welfare recipients off drugs, but we DO have a problem with orchestrated efforts to transfer wealth from the poor to the rich using legislation----which is what these GOP-backed "reforms" have really amounted to.
2014-01-25 01:55:46 PM  
2 votes:
A Sheriff Joe thread always draws out the soulless wankstains.
2014-01-25 01:54:07 PM  
2 votes:

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: BafflerMeal: Seems like a flat out human rights violation. I know it's only for seven days, but that diet does no provide the calories or nutrition needed for an adult.

Uh, yes it does.  It's designed to EXACTLY that...it just tastes like crap.  It's not a plate of Wonder bread...


Article didn't mention nutriloaf.
2014-01-25 01:50:46 PM  
2 votes:

KidneyStone: I'm ok with this.

It's not that it's the flag, it's that it's destruction of government property and negative behavior.

Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.


is it possible these people are awaiting trial and not actually guilty of anything?
2014-01-25 01:43:02 PM  
2 votes:

hardinparamedic: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I wonder if it's working.

What is Joe's recidivism rate?
Is crime down or up, compared to the national average?
What's his cost per inmate?

In short: No, it's not.

Violent crime as a whole is down in Arizona per capita. The only area it continues to rise is in Joe's district.


Yep. It's like the whole 'WE NEED TO DRUG TEST THOSE WELFARE farkERS' kick that retarded conservatives have been on lately.  It was done. Not a single person was caught failing, any time that's been tried.

Friends wife is suuuuper conservative/hardline GOP (and married an Indian guy, so that's odd to me), throws out all of those ideas. After the duck dynasty thing where she was screaming about 1st amendments and freedom of speech/religion/ducks, and I very calmly dropped a 'freedom of speech protects you from the government, not the results of your speech or anything in the private sector' in her, she must have unfriended me because I haven't seen her since.

Kinda miss seeing updates on my buddy and the kid, but no real loss on her other posts (hint: if I needed a faux news condenser of talking points I'd just kill myself).
2014-01-25 01:41:57 PM  
2 votes:
Removing salt and pepper from meals as well?

What a farking dick. Food without salt, especially when served to those who have had their tastebuds manipulated by big food their whole life, is nearly inedible. Add in the quality they serve prisoners and they're getting dog food.

/I know this feeble, old, hateful man has committed many worse atrocities but this offends me as a cook.
2014-01-25 01:37:37 PM  
2 votes:
Seems like a flat out human rights violation. I know it's only for seven days, but that diet does no provide the calories or nutrition needed for an adult.
2014-01-25 11:07:47 AM  
2 votes:

edmo: We can only hope they'll manage to throw his ass in jail before he dies of old age


Considering the Feds have found that he has intentionally mismanaged federal grant money, that might happen sooner than you might think.
2014-01-26 04:06:35 PM  
1 votes:

Popular Opinion: Wrencher: cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?

It costs more to do the testing, than what is "saved" by making druggies live under a bush by the river.

that isn't exactly true,
many that claim that as fact point to the attempt to drug test recipients in florida.
the reason the program was a net loss was that a judge blocked the enforcement and forced the state to pay the drug takers retroactively.

i think pot should be legal, but if you are smoking pot, you are taking benefits while making yourself unemployable on purpose.
if you don't think there is something wrong with that, there is no point in discussing the merits or legality of such programs.


drug testing saved $350,000 in utah.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765637435/Utah-officials-say-welf ar e-drug-tests-save-money.html
they do not test everyone, and they do not test randomly
btw, they don't deny benefits, they simply require drug abuse treatment for those that test positive
recipients only lose benefits if they refuse to comply with treatment or counseling requirements.

there is so much disinformation out there, it is not surprising our fellow farkers have the opinions they do.
2014-01-26 12:20:42 PM  
1 votes:

Wrencher: cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?

It costs more to do the testing, than what is "saved" by making druggies live under a bush by the river.


that isn't exactly true,
many that claim that as fact point to the attempt to drug test recipients in florida.
the reason the program was a net loss was that a judge blocked the enforcement and forced the state to pay the drug takers retroactively.

i think pot should be legal, but if you are smoking pot, you are taking benefits while making yourself unemployable on purpose.
if you don't think there is something wrong with that, there is no point in discussing the merits or legality of such programs.
2014-01-25 11:13:22 PM  
1 votes:

TerminalEchoes: hardinparamedic: TerminalEchoes: Damn him. Treating inmates as though they had done something wrong! The horror!

Because everyone in county jail has been convicted of a crime, or even put through due process, right?

Stop whining. If they're in there, even being held until trial, chances are that they did something to deserve being there. I know such a statement will rub your tender little hiney the wrong way, but that's life.


Another "Patriot" with a clear understanding of both the Constitution and legal process.

/The only lernin' we need is USA #1 !
2014-01-25 10:59:30 PM  
1 votes:

TerminalEchoes: Stop whining. If they're in there, even being held until trial, chances are that they did something to deserve being there. I know such a statement will rub your tender little hiney the wrong way, but that's life.


Sometimes, I wish people who believe this would meet their local Officer Friendly, and get their ass tazed into submission for no reason.

But, considering you live in Phoenix, I'm sure that's more of a possibility than you are willing to think about.
2014-01-25 07:44:06 PM  
1 votes:

cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?


It's a violation of the 4th amendment prohibiting unlawful search & seizure. You cannot reasonably suspect a welfare recipient of being a drug addict simply on the basis of them applying for welfare. This differs from being drug-tested for employment in that you enter into an agreement with an employer and sign a document or application giving them permission to test you.
2014-01-25 06:51:44 PM  
1 votes:
cards fan by association:
Well, unlike the federal government, I don't care what drugs people want to use to as long as they aren't a burden on society. "Paying off" drug addicted welfare recipients so they don't steal from the rest of us seems like a bad reason to give them money.

Well, it's a good thing that the drug rate among welfare recipients is lower than the general population, now, isn't it?
2014-01-25 06:09:07 PM  
1 votes:
The flag should not be used as a drapery, or for covering a speakers desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general. Bunting of blue, white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe of the bunting should be on the top.
The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It should not be embroidered, printed or otherwise impressed on such articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything intended to be discarded after temporary use.


Putting the flag on decals is against the rules of flag handling etiquette.  Said rules passed by the US government.  Joe should be put in solitary and fed nutraloaf and water for the next thirty days for doing so.

/if someone already pointed out the flag rules, sorry, I missed it.  Can't find my reading glasses.
2014-01-25 05:35:52 PM  
1 votes:

pueblonative: TerminalEchoes: Damn him. Treating inmates as though they had done something wrong! The horror!

Focusing just on the people who may be serving a misdemeanor sentence in the pokey and ignoring the people in there awaiting trial (you know, the ones considered innocent until proven otherwise), let's break something to your dear, sweet little heart: INCARCERATION IS THE PUNISHMENT YOU TOOL!  That's it.  It is not the sheriff's job to add ridiculous punishments like wearing pink underwear (nice rampant homophobia there) or making them eat nutriloaf just so he can get his corrupt ass on Fox News as "America's toughest sheriff".  I'm pretty sure that if and when they toss him in the clink for corruption he's gonna have pink underroos too.  They may not start out that way, but they'll end up that color.


He's never gonna see jail time. He's either gonna use lawyers to stonewall until he dies, or off himself before it gets that far.
2014-01-25 05:32:47 PM  
1 votes:

TerminalEchoes: Damn him. Treating inmates as though they had done something wrong! The horror!


Focusing just on the people who may be serving a misdemeanor sentence in the pokey and ignoring the people in there awaiting trial (you know, the ones considered innocent until proven otherwise), let's break something to your dear, sweet little heart: INCARCERATION IS THE PUNISHMENT YOU TOOL!  That's it.  It is not the sheriff's job to add ridiculous punishments like wearing pink underwear (nice rampant homophobia there) or making them eat nutriloaf just so he can get his corrupt ass on Fox News as "America's toughest sheriff".  I'm pretty sure that if and when they toss him in the clink for corruption he's gonna have pink underroos too.  They may not start out that way, but they'll end up that color.
2014-01-25 05:28:56 PM  
1 votes:

TerminalEchoes: Damn him. Treating inmates as though they had done something wrong! The horror!


Because everyone in county jail has been convicted of a crime, or even put through due process, right?
2014-01-25 05:09:56 PM  
1 votes:

TerminalEchoes: Damn him. Treating inmates as though they had done something wrong! The horror!


They damaged some cheap stickers that creepy sheriff stuck on a wall,is that a crime worthy of the bread and water punishment? No,it's not. Christ,some of you conservatives are really sick.
2014-01-25 05:08:22 PM  
1 votes:

Popular Opinion: grimlock1972: Sherrif joe has got to go.

as for his salt and pepper idea for saving money he has cost the county many time as much has that saved by his asshattery.

i believe the idea is not to save money, but that low lifes would move and commit their crimes elsewhere, to places where jail life is comparatively posh, food and comfort wise.


why that maybe true , Sheriff Joe claimed he did it to save money, which at vest it might have saved $10,000 to a generous $100,000 at best a year  , at the same time he was causing the county to hemorrhage millions covering his legal messes.

A little seasoning is cheap,However legal fees and settlements are not.
2014-01-25 04:49:03 PM  
1 votes:

Duke_leto_Atredes: They would not be in jail if they had not broken the law.


Really? You actually believe that?
2014-01-25 04:39:50 PM  
1 votes:

Katolu: White knights for ol'Joe. Whodathunkit?


That wrinkled old dick isn't going to suck itself
2014-01-25 04:00:59 PM  
1 votes:

a particular individual: cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?

Do you WANT the children of poor people to starve and sleep in refrigerator cartons, because their dad tested positive for marijuana?


why is somebody stupid and irresponsible enough to lose his family's benefits (because he refuses to stop toking, shooting or snorting up) allowed to raise children? what kind of adults will they become under such stellar guidance?

/of course the children should be cared for properly, no matter what loser dad or loser mom does.
2014-01-25 03:55:17 PM  
1 votes:

cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?


Do you WANT the children of poor people to starve and sleep in refrigerator cartons, because their dad tested positive for marijuana?
2014-01-25 03:51:45 PM  
1 votes:

ErinPac: [media.azfamily.com image 600x338]
The nurtaloaf, for anyone who didn't see the pic.
It's some kind of meatloaf with veggies in bread dough thing.

Doesn't he already brag about the meals being super cheap and having no seasonings?  This may not be significantly worse.  It looks kind of gross, but meatloaf hot pockets might not be any harder to choke down than the regular garbage there.


actually, it looks something like a cornish pasty, but those are actually quite yummy.

a particular individual: KidneyStone: Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.

Why even bother with a trial? If you're in jail, you're guilty, QED.


apparently he might be stupid enough to think the police don't make mistakes.
and being that stupid probably qualifies him to be an officer himself.
2014-01-25 03:46:20 PM  
1 votes:

KidneyStone: Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.


Why even bother with a trial? If you're in jail, you're guilty, QED.
2014-01-25 03:25:12 PM  
1 votes:

TV's Vinnie: I really am praying that Joe ends up chained in a cheap motel's bathtub alone with a Knights Templar cartel member holding a chainsaw.


I'm reminded of a line from the Black Company when i think of Joe: Pigs like that I would love to run through half of what they give to others.
2014-01-25 03:20:38 PM  
1 votes:

Endive Wombat: I gotta tell ya...I am genuinely shocked that:

1.  He has not been removed from his position, sued to the end of the Earth by the ACLU/former inmates under his care...or been placed under investigation by the Justice Dept.

2.  He has not been killed yet.  Seriously, it amazes me to no end that he and his family are still alive.  I cannot imagine that he has an entourage of heavily armed guards around him and his family 100% of the time.  There also has to be more than one former inmate who would gladly go back to prison if it meant causing some sort of pain for him and his family.


I really am praying that Joe ends up chained in a cheap motel's bathtub alone with a Knights Templar cartel member holding a chainsaw.
2014-01-25 03:18:05 PM  
1 votes:
Playing "God Bless America" is not only anti-Constitutional, but also a war crime. A fascist march sung by a fat disgusting b*tch that's long since dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEJo7x9y3D4
2014-01-25 03:16:10 PM  
1 votes:

Popular Opinion: snocone: Popular Opinion:
i didn't say it was successful numbnut, i said it probably worked at least once.



What you said was, i believe the idea is not to save money, but that low lifes would move and commit their crimes elsewhere, to places where jail life is comparatively posh, food and comfort wise.
Plural.
Comprehension, do you know it?
Done.
2014-01-25 02:59:34 PM  
1 votes:

DicksWii: I wouldn't be surprised if he started installing sturdy hooks on the ceilings and providing the prisoners with rope.


Given his record of disobeying people in authority and the hammer that's about to be dropped, that might just be looking ahead for his inevitable contempt citation.
2014-01-25 02:51:51 PM  
1 votes:

organizmx: KidneyStone: I'm ok with this.

It's not that it's the flag, it's that it's destruction of government property and negative behavior.

Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.

Am I mistaken, or is jail (not prison) for people awaiting trial? Meaning none of these people have actually been convicted of a crime.


Usually it's a combo of people who are awaiting trial, those serving small (less than a year) sentences, and those found in civil contempt (not technically a crime).  Even so, having to put up with the AW'ing antics of a dude who's about to have a judicially appointed master start slapping his wrists to get him back in line to the tune of $21 million is cruel and unusual even if you've been convicted.
2014-01-25 02:34:23 PM  
1 votes:

Descartes: (checks main page)

Ahhhh, you have to be Godless to get the  [img.fark.com image 54x11] tag these days.
Respect for the flag isn't good enough anymore with the usual suspects.


I'll just quote George Carlin on this.

The flag is a symbol, and I'll leave symbols to the symbol-minded.
2014-01-25 02:30:43 PM  
1 votes:

Popular Opinion: MFAWG: berylman: Assuming it is a sincere gesture, I don't get what he thinks putting a flag decal in a cell is going to accomplish.

It keeps his retarded fan base fired up.

and pisses off the messicans


And LieBruls. So that's good enough.
2014-01-25 02:28:28 PM  
1 votes:

berylman: Assuming it is a sincere gesture, I don't get what he thinks putting a flag decal in a cell is going to accomplish.


It keeps his retarded fan base fired up.
2014-01-25 02:20:45 PM  
1 votes:

Popular Opinion: grimlock1972: Sherrif joe has got to go.

as for his salt and pepper idea for saving money he has cost the county many time as much has that saved by his asshattery.

i believe the idea is not to save money, but that low lifes would move and commit their crimes elsewhere, to places where jail life is comparatively posh, food and comfort wise.


Since that has never worked in history, how about if we just call him what he acts like for publicity.
This puke is just Rush w/o a radio show.

/we mass communicatin', Boy.
2014-01-25 02:17:33 PM  
1 votes:

pueblonative: skinink: The voters in his area keep electing him. They want this idiot in office then I can't be outraged over their pick. Obviously the Arizona voters are okay with his behavior.

I'm sure the American citizens that he's rounded up and detained in violation of their constitutional rights would beg to differ.


cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?

Other than the fact that it's expensive, a boondoggle for drug testing companies, finds drug rates at a lower level than the general population and is generally used to shame people who are poor, nothing at all.


And the chumps think the expense of actually doing the "test" was performed.
I have been a certified specimen collector for decades, AMA.

/hint, less than half the time
2014-01-25 02:16:54 PM  
1 votes:
Dining Critic Tries Nutraloaf, the Prison Food for Misbehaving Inmates
JUSTICE IS BLAND: I eat Nutraloaf, the all-in-one "disciplinary loaf" served at Cook County Jail
BY JEFF RUBY
PUBLISHED AUG. 26, 2010


Inmates at Cook County Jail are allowed three privileges: television, books, and food. The staff has no compunction about denying its most difficult residents either of the first two, but under the Constitution, correctional facilities can't withhold food. Nothing in the Eighth Amendment, however, says the food has to taste good. "This is not the Four Seasons," says
Nutraloaf, a thick orange lump of spite with the density and taste of a dumbbell, could only be the object of Beelzebub's culinary desires. Packed with protein, fat, carbohydrates, and 1,110 calories, Nutraloaf contains everything from carrots and cabbage to kidney beans and potatoes, plus shadowy ingredients such as "dairy blend" and "mechanically separated poultry." You purée everything into a paste, shape it into a loaf, and bake it for 50 to 70 minutes at 375 degrees. Eat two a day and, boom, all your daily nutrients, right there. If you want the recipe, ask me.
Or just get yourself tossed into Cook County Jail, where an inmate who causes serious food-related problems buys himself a one-way ticket to Nutraloafopolis. Get caught making homemade hooch in your cell toilet? You get Nutraloaf. Hurl food at a guard or stab someone with a spork? Nutraloaf. Of the jail's 9,000 inmates, 21 have endured the Nutraloaf program since it began in June. One begged-No! Anything but Nutraloaf!-and another went on a hunger strike. Both men, and virtually every other Nutraloafer, straightened up enough to get back to the usual diet of oatmeal and processed bologna.
In July, I took the afternoon off from my job as  Chicagomagazine's dining critic and drove to 26th and California to dine on Nutraloaf. Cook County's stridently gray-brown cafeteria would never be mistaken for Naha, and the dish's presentation aims less for the wow factor than the break-your-spirit factor. An employee from Aramark Correctional Services-a branch of the Philadelphia-based company that also provides fare for college dorms and NFL stadiums-presented me a Styrofoam container sagging with a blunt ginger-toned mass roughly the size of a calzone and with the appearance of a neglected fruitcake. It had nothing else in common with either.
The mushy, disturbingly uniform innards recalled the thick, pulpy aftermath of something you dissected in biology class: so intrinsically disagreeable that my throat nearly closed up reflexively. But the funny thing about Nutraloaf is the taste. It's not awful, nor is it especially good. I kept trying to detect any individual element-carrot? egg?-and failing. Nutraloaf tastes blank, as though someone physically removed all hints of flavor. "That's the goal," says Mike Anderson, Aramark's district manager. "Not to make it taste bad but to make it taste neutral." By those standards, Nutraloaf is a culinary triumph; any recipe that renders all 13 of its ingredients completely mute is some kind of miracle.
I ate two-thirds and gave up, longing for any hint of flavor, even a bad one. That night, my stomach's rebellion against the loaf was anything but neutral. I felt so full and lethargic that I skipped dinner and the following breakfast. And let's just say I finally had a lot of time alone to catch up on myNew Yorker reading.
Even though inmates in several states, including Illinois, have sued over Nutraloaf, alleging cruel and unusual punishment, correctional departments everywhere are introducing their own versions of the "disciplinary loaf." None of the lawsuits have been successful. "We're not trying to dump Tabasco sauce on their tongues or anything like that," Dart says. "It just tastes like nothing." In other words, they found a loophole: Nutraloaf is not cruel; it's just unusual. Soon it may cease to be either.
2014-01-25 02:08:08 PM  
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Duke_leto_Atredes: Popular Opinion: KidneyStone: I'm ok with this.

It's not that it's the flag, it's that it's destruction of government property and negative behavior.

Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.

is it possible these people are awaiting trial and not actually guilty of anything?

They would not be in jail if they had not broken been accused of breaking the law.


///don't get caught motherfarker


FTFY, and still not guilty dipshiat
2014-01-25 02:06:12 PM  
1 votes:
This will lead to a series of lawsuits that, at the very least, will cost Maricopa County hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend against, and will probalby go into the millions if the lawsuits are successful.

But the slack-jawed yokels who keep voting  this bullshiat artist into office will herp and derp in approval.  And then they'll talk about how they are fiscally responisble conservatives.
2014-01-25 02:05:25 PM  
1 votes:
Assuming it is a sincere gesture, I don't get what he thinks putting a flag decal in a cell is going to accomplish.
2014-01-25 02:03:31 PM  
1 votes:
I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?
2014-01-25 02:03:04 PM  
1 votes:

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: hardinparamedic: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I wonder if it's working.

What is Joe's recidivism rate?
Is crime down or up, compared to the national average?
What's his cost per inmate?

In short: No, it's not.

Violent crime as a whole is down in Arizona per capita. The only area it continues to rise is in Joe's district.

Citation? Cuz I think that statement is full of shiat.

Oh, and the "bread" if a nutriition loaf that is used literally all over the country on inmates with discipline problems... But since this is Joe, it's cruel and unusual punishment.


The reason the prison loaf is outrageous in this case is because these prisoners did not ask for the flags in their cells--Sheriff Dickwad mandated them. IMHO, it would be different if prisoners had requested the flags and then defaced them. This case is as horrifying as it would be had Sheriff Twatwaffle put the prisoners on "bread" and water for tearing down an "Out of Order" sign on a bathroom door.
2014-01-25 02:00:55 PM  
1 votes:
I had the pleasure of spending a night in his hotel a while back. Inhumane is an understatement and a minor crime earns you a cold night on a concrete floor, lights on all the time. No blankets and food after about 30 hours that my dog wouldn't eat. He is not a good person, we treat pow's better then this guy does Americans who largely have not been found guilty of anything.
2014-01-25 01:57:49 PM  
1 votes:

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Citation? Cuz I think that statement is full of shiat.


Well, you can think what you like.
2014-01-25 01:55:53 PM  
1 votes:

BafflerMeal: Seems like a flat out human rights violation. I know it's only for seven days, but that diet does no provide the calories or nutrition needed for an adult.


To say nothing of how badly it binds you up. Bread and water leads to severe, painful constipation.
2014-01-25 01:48:18 PM  
1 votes:

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: hardinparamedic: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I wonder if it's working.

What is Joe's recidivism rate?
Is crime down or up, compared to the national average?
What's his cost per inmate?

In short: No, it's not.

Violent crime as a whole is down in Arizona per capita. The only area it continues to rise is in Joe's district.

Citation? Cuz I think that statement is full of shiat.

Oh, and the "bread" if a nutriition loaf that is used literally all over the country on inmates with discipline problems... But since this is Joe, it's cruel and unusual punishment.


It must be hard to type when the only letters you can choose are two over one down.
2014-01-25 01:43:26 PM  
1 votes:

AliceBToklasLives: It amazes me that the folks who have a fetishistic love for the flag think the left is fascist.


Flaggotry: (n) To love the symbol and ignore the meaning behind it

/Joke stolen from another Farker
2014-01-25 01:35:54 PM  
1 votes:
Dear Sheriff Joe:

"You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments."

Exodus 20:4-6

Signed G-d
2014-01-25 01:32:53 PM  
1 votes:
With each passing year I'm amazed this man retains his position.
2014-01-25 11:01:14 AM  
1 votes:

pueblonative: Endive Wombat: I gotta tell ya...I am genuinely shocked that:

1.  He has not been removed from his position, sued to the end of the Earth by the ACLU/former inmates under his care...or been placed under investigation by the Justice Dept.

A. Thank the Snowbirds who don't have to pay for Schmoe Arpayoso's crap
B. He has been sued, multiple times
C. justice Department dropped their investigation a while back.

As for 2, Joe's probably hired more people to fake assasinate him than anybody else.


Well I stand corrected.
 
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