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(AZ Family)   As part of his efforts to promote patriotism in his jails, Sheriff Joe Arpaio puts inmates on a bread and water diet if they deface the American flag decals he makes mandatory in every cell   (azfamily.com) divider line 172
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2014-01-25 02:56:35 PM  

williesleg: Sheriff Joe is a true American Hero.

These people are in jail for committing a crime.

He is insuring they learn their lesson and be productive.

It's been proven time and again most people are in jail because the lack structure and morals.

Well, I can't think of a better way to teach them structure and morals than what he's doing.

All you libtards go solve crime in your own state.
Give your crooks 3 course meals and teach them how to build knives and take drugs.

Leave AZ alone, it works for them and the people there overwhelmingly support them.  You are not tolerant of that, what a shame.


Trolling is an unbecoming trait for a young lady.
 
2014-01-25 02:58:12 PM  
Nothing says rehabilitation and reincorporation into normal society than removing every semblance of pleasure or normalcy from an inmates life. You could put up a picture of my wife and children in one of those cells and i would slowly rip it off the wall just to provide myself with at least a little a bit of intellectual stimulation. I love my wife and kids and having them be a part of that decrepit environment would drive me insane. I'm a disabled vet and love this country, but i would tear the flag down as well. Nothing i've heard or seen of that prison makes me think, "That's what America stands for right there!"

He tries to say that he removes every excess from his prisons so that he can save the tax payers money, but then he adds these American Flag decals that costs his constituency money and is SURPRISED when some take out aggression on an inanimate object that symbolizes everything that the prison they are occupying is not.

That's like telling occupants of a paradise that they can do anything they want, except one thing. And if they do that one thing, they are banished. Why else have that one thing there?

I wouldn't be surprised if he started installing sturdy hooks on the ceilings and providing the prisoners with rope.
 
2014-01-25 02:59:34 PM  

DicksWii: I wouldn't be surprised if he started installing sturdy hooks on the ceilings and providing the prisoners with rope.


Given his record of disobeying people in authority and the hammer that's about to be dropped, that might just be looking ahead for his inevitable contempt citation.
 
2014-01-25 03:00:20 PM  
Look at the demographics of his district...white people and lots of 'em. Arizona is a retirement mecca for old white people plus there's plenty of cowboy redneck types there, too. Anyone who locks up them dirty Messicans will get their vote. He plays Great White Avenger and the honkies collectively swoon.

Yes, it is about race. They don't call the place Aryanzona for nothing.
 
2014-01-25 03:02:31 PM  

Popular Opinion: snocone: Popular Opinion:
if you regard being wrong in everything you've said so far as being "even", i'm fine with that.


Ok, fool.
Let us review. That means you have to go back and read.
Since you have so far failed to read what I said and chose to substitute what you wish I had said, I fear for your success.
You made the assertion that this Sociopath's program was successful in making his problem move to be someone else's problem as if that were a successful strategy.
Then you make up zhit for me.
Go away.
 
2014-01-25 03:04:21 PM  

snocone: Popular Opinion: snocone: Popular Opinion:
if you regard being wrong in everything you've said so far as being "even", i'm fine with that.

Ok, fool.
Let us review. That means you have to go back and read.
Since you have so far failed to read what I said and chose to substitute what you wish I had said, I fear for your success.
You made the assertion that this Sociopath's program was successful in making his problem move to be someone else's problem as if that were a successful strategy.
Then you make up zhit for me.
Go away.


i didn't say it was successful numbnut, i said it probably worked at least once.

tell your doctor you need to increase your Alzheimer meds.
 
2014-01-25 03:15:18 PM  

shastacola: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: hardinparamedic: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I wonder if it's working.

What is Joe's recidivism rate?
Is crime down or up, compared to the national average?
What's his cost per inmate?

In short: No, it's not.

Violent crime as a whole is down in Arizona per capita. The only area it continues to rise is in Joe's district.

Citation? Cuz I think that statement is full of shiat.

Oh, and the "bread" if a nutriition loaf that is used literally all over the country on inmates with discipline problems... But since this is Joe, it's cruel and unusual punishment.

I've never heard of bread and water being used literally all over the country. Where else is this being done?


"Nutriloaaf",or "The Loaf" to inmates, is pretty standard punishment rations across the country.  Food is a valuable commodity in prison (lot's of trading - and stabbing - over it), so taking away real food and replacing it with a nutritious, yet awful, substitute is a good way to reprimand prisoners.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutraloaf
 
2014-01-25 03:16:10 PM  

Popular Opinion: snocone: Popular Opinion:
i didn't say it was successful numbnut, i said it probably worked at least once.



What you said was, i believe the idea is not to save money, but that low lifes would move and commit their crimes elsewhere, to places where jail life is comparatively posh, food and comfort wise.
Plural.
Comprehension, do you know it?
Done.
 
2014-01-25 03:16:36 PM  

skinink: The voters snowbirds in his area keep electing him. They want this idiot in office then I can't be outraged over their pick. Obviously the Arizona voters are okay with his behavior.


ftfy.

Two of them are the SO's grandparents.  Sorry about that, Arizona.  Their old white people Fox News fueled outrage is more diluted the 6 months of the year they're in Michigan.
 
2014-01-25 03:17:12 PM  

Popular Opinion: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: BafflerMeal: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: BafflerMeal: Seems like a flat out human rights violation. I know it's only for seven days, but that diet does no provide the calories or nutrition needed for an adult.

Uh, yes it does.  It's designed to EXACTLY that...it just tastes like crap.  It's not a plate of Wonder bread...

Article didn't mention nutriloaf.

Understand, but that doesn't change the fact that is is.  And seriously, 7 days of ACTUAL bread and water would be obviously criminal.  This is Phoenix, not some small town in the backwaters of Mississippi where the warden gets to do whatever he wants and nobody can stop him.

Critical thinking skills, people.

sorry, but are you saying not provided child molesters (or whatever) more than fully nutritious bread and water is a violation of their human rights?

you realize this means we are violating the rights of millions of poor people in this country?


Critical thinking...and reading comprehension skills, apparently.
 
2014-01-25 03:18:05 PM  
Playing "God Bless America" is not only anti-Constitutional, but also a war crime. A fascist march sung by a fat disgusting b*tch that's long since dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEJo7x9y3D4
 
2014-01-25 03:18:37 PM  

cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?


Because it's expensive as fark and has no useful results. People on welfare are not inherently druggies.
 
2014-01-25 03:19:01 PM  

williesleg: Sheriff Joe is a true American Hero.

These people are in jail for committing a crime.

He is insuring they learn their lesson and be productive.

It's been proven time and again most people are in jail because the lack structure and morals.

Well, I can't think of a better way to teach them structure and morals than what he's doing.

All you libtards go solve crime in your own state.
Give your crooks 3 course meals and teach them how to build knives and take drugs.

Leave AZ alone, it works for them and the people there overwhelmingly support them.  You are not tolerant of that, what a shame.


Trolling? Actual belief? Facefull of Poe Slaw? Man, I can't even tell anymore.
 
2014-01-25 03:20:38 PM  

Endive Wombat: I gotta tell ya...I am genuinely shocked that:

1.  He has not been removed from his position, sued to the end of the Earth by the ACLU/former inmates under his care...or been placed under investigation by the Justice Dept.

2.  He has not been killed yet.  Seriously, it amazes me to no end that he and his family are still alive.  I cannot imagine that he has an entourage of heavily armed guards around him and his family 100% of the time.  There also has to be more than one former inmate who would gladly go back to prison if it meant causing some sort of pain for him and his family.


I really am praying that Joe ends up chained in a cheap motel's bathtub alone with a Knights Templar cartel member holding a chainsaw.
 
2014-01-25 03:23:28 PM  

PsiChick: cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?

Because it's expensive as fark and has no useful results. People on welfare are not inherently druggies.


That and the B3 Bomber are what they want you to believe.
 
2014-01-25 03:25:12 PM  

TV's Vinnie: I really am praying that Joe ends up chained in a cheap motel's bathtub alone with a Knights Templar cartel member holding a chainsaw.


I'm reminded of a line from the Black Company when i think of Joe: Pigs like that I would love to run through half of what they give to others.
 
2014-01-25 03:25:20 PM  

snocone: Popular Opinion: snocone: Popular Opinion:
i didn't say it was successful numbnut, i said it probably worked at least once.


What you said was, i believe the idea is not to save money, but that low lifes would move and commit their crimes elsewhere, to places where jail life is comparatively posh, food and comfort wise.
Plural.
Comprehension, do you know it?
Done.


i claimed that was probably the idea, not that it was a successful and completely effective program.
even so, one less low life is one less low life.

yes, i will go out on a limb and say at least 2 low lifes have left the jurisdiction for places with better jail accommodations.

/yes, you are still wrong.
 
2014-01-25 03:28:46 PM  

Popular Opinion: yes, i will go out on a limb and say at least 2 low lifes have left the jurisdiction for places with better jail accommodations.


I'm sure some of the 400 or so sex crime victims he ignored have left the jurisdiction for places with better judicial systems as well.
 
2014-01-25 03:28:47 PM  
Well fair people are on welfare.
But convince the stupid population that they are all well, welfare queens, and the 1% can trickle down your leg some more.
 
2014-01-25 03:39:09 PM  
Arpaio and climate threads always devolve into biggest tool in the toolshed contests.  It's the safest bet on the interwebby.
 
2014-01-25 03:39:48 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Popular Opinion: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: BafflerMeal: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: BafflerMeal: Seems like a flat out human rights violation. I know it's only for seven days, but that diet does no provide the calories or nutrition needed for an adult.

Uh, yes it does.  It's designed to EXACTLY that...it just tastes like crap.  It's not a plate of Wonder bread...

Article didn't mention nutriloaf.

Understand, but that doesn't change the fact that is is.  And seriously, 7 days of ACTUAL bread and water would be obviously criminal.  This is Phoenix, not some small town in the backwaters of Mississippi where the warden gets to do whatever he wants and nobody can stop him.

Critical thinking skills, people.

sorry, but are you saying not provided child molesters (or whatever) more than fully nutritious bread and water is a violation of their human rights?

you realize this means we are violating the rights of millions of poor people in this country?

Critical thinking...and reading comprehension skills, apparently.


sorry, i was replying to the prior post, and to be fair to him, the text of the article is so completely wrong and misleading, i would be surprised if the writer is still employed to report the news.
 
2014-01-25 03:46:20 PM  

KidneyStone: Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.


Why even bother with a trial? If you're in jail, you're guilty, QED.
 
2014-01-25 03:48:42 PM  
media.azfamily.com
The nurtaloaf, for anyone who didn't see the pic.
It's some kind of meatloaf with veggies in bread dough thing.

Doesn't he already brag about the meals being super cheap and having no seasonings?  This may not be significantly worse.  It looks kind of gross, but meatloaf hot pockets might not be any harder to choke down than the regular garbage there.
 
2014-01-25 03:51:45 PM  

ErinPac: [media.azfamily.com image 600x338]
The nurtaloaf, for anyone who didn't see the pic.
It's some kind of meatloaf with veggies in bread dough thing.

Doesn't he already brag about the meals being super cheap and having no seasonings?  This may not be significantly worse.  It looks kind of gross, but meatloaf hot pockets might not be any harder to choke down than the regular garbage there.


actually, it looks something like a cornish pasty, but those are actually quite yummy.

a particular individual: KidneyStone: Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.

Why even bother with a trial? If you're in jail, you're guilty, QED.


apparently he might be stupid enough to think the police don't make mistakes.
and being that stupid probably qualifies him to be an officer himself.
 
2014-01-25 03:52:54 PM  

a particular individual: KidneyStone: Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.

Why even bother with a trial? If you're in jail, you're guilty, QED.


Yes, trials are way too expensive, that money could be way better used if it were trickled up.
Not to mention the inconvenience, stress and demands placed on the poor jury.
Won't somebody think of the jurors?
 
2014-01-25 03:53:55 PM  

ErinPac: Doesn't he already brag about the meals being super cheap and having no seasonings?


He's gotta save money for settlements and court ordered remedies somewhere.
 
2014-01-25 03:55:17 PM  

cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?


Do you WANT the children of poor people to starve and sleep in refrigerator cartons, because their dad tested positive for marijuana?
 
2014-01-25 03:59:48 PM  

ErinPac: The nurtaloaf, for anyone who didn't see the pic.
It's some kind of meatloaf with veggies in bread dough thing.

Doesn't he already brag about the meals being super cheap and having no seasonings?  This may not be significantly worse.  It looks kind of gross, but meatloaf hot pockets might not be any harder to choke down than the regular garbage there.


Please don't joke about meat loaf Hot Pockets. First, ConAgra is likely looking into them already. Second, that idea sounds pretty good.

(I like Hot Pockets, especially the meatball and mozerella ones. And chicken quesadilla. And cheeseburger. Shut up.)
 
2014-01-25 04:00:59 PM  

a particular individual: cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?

Do you WANT the children of poor people to starve and sleep in refrigerator cartons, because their dad tested positive for marijuana?


why is somebody stupid and irresponsible enough to lose his family's benefits (because he refuses to stop toking, shooting or snorting up) allowed to raise children? what kind of adults will they become under such stellar guidance?

/of course the children should be cared for properly, no matter what loser dad or loser mom does.
 
2014-01-25 04:03:21 PM  

a particular individual: cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?

Do you WANT the children of poor people to starve and sleep in refrigerator cartons, because their dad tested positive for marijuana?


Absolutely not, but I think there are better ways to take care of them than funding their father's alcohism.
 
2014-01-25 04:05:27 PM  

Popular Opinion: a particular individual: cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?

Do you WANT the children of poor people to starve and sleep in refrigerator cartons, because their dad tested positive for marijuana?

why is somebody stupid and irresponsible enough to lose his family's benefits (because he refuses to stop toking, shooting or snorting up) allowed to raise children? what kind of adults will they become under such stellar guidance?

/of course the children should be cared for properly, no matter what loser dad or loser mom does.


Otherwise, you will soon run out of loser moms and dads.
 
2014-01-25 04:07:36 PM  
www.nashuagop.org
 
2014-01-25 04:10:07 PM  

snocone: Popular Opinion: a particular individual: cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?

Do you WANT the children of poor people to starve and sleep in refrigerator cartons, because their dad tested positive for marijuana?

why is somebody stupid and irresponsible enough to lose his family's benefits (because he refuses to stop toking, shooting or snorting up) allowed to raise children? what kind of adults will they become under such stellar guidance?

/of course the children should be cared for properly, no matter what loser dad or loser mom does.

Otherwise, you will soon run out of loser moms and dads.


exactly, and that would mean less people that vote for liberals.
this is exactly why liberals don't want to enforce anything like this sort testing.
more losers, more votes.

/pot should be legal anyway
//alcohol is much more damaging
//asshats don't get riled up on pot and beat up their wife and kids. alcohol on the other hand....
 
2014-01-25 04:29:05 PM  
I just love the picture of the 'Grilled Lemongrass Chicken' on the right!
 
2014-01-25 04:39:50 PM  

Katolu: White knights for ol'Joe. Whodathunkit?


That wrinkled old dick isn't going to suck itself
 
2014-01-25 04:49:03 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: They would not be in jail if they had not broken the law.


Really? You actually believe that?
 
2014-01-25 04:56:44 PM  
This fat fark is why we have treason laws.

He should be hung, drawn, and quartered.
 
2014-01-25 05:02:28 PM  
Damn him. Treating inmates as though they had done something wrong! The horror!
 
2014-01-25 05:08:22 PM  

Popular Opinion: grimlock1972: Sherrif joe has got to go.

as for his salt and pepper idea for saving money he has cost the county many time as much has that saved by his asshattery.

i believe the idea is not to save money, but that low lifes would move and commit their crimes elsewhere, to places where jail life is comparatively posh, food and comfort wise.


why that maybe true , Sheriff Joe claimed he did it to save money, which at vest it might have saved $10,000 to a generous $100,000 at best a year  , at the same time he was causing the county to hemorrhage millions covering his legal messes.

A little seasoning is cheap,However legal fees and settlements are not.
 
2014-01-25 05:09:56 PM  

TerminalEchoes: Damn him. Treating inmates as though they had done something wrong! The horror!


They damaged some cheap stickers that creepy sheriff stuck on a wall,is that a crime worthy of the bread and water punishment? No,it's not. Christ,some of you conservatives are really sick.
 
2014-01-25 05:28:56 PM  

TerminalEchoes: Damn him. Treating inmates as though they had done something wrong! The horror!


Because everyone in county jail has been convicted of a crime, or even put through due process, right?
 
2014-01-25 05:32:47 PM  

TerminalEchoes: Damn him. Treating inmates as though they had done something wrong! The horror!


Focusing just on the people who may be serving a misdemeanor sentence in the pokey and ignoring the people in there awaiting trial (you know, the ones considered innocent until proven otherwise), let's break something to your dear, sweet little heart: INCARCERATION IS THE PUNISHMENT YOU TOOL!  That's it.  It is not the sheriff's job to add ridiculous punishments like wearing pink underwear (nice rampant homophobia there) or making them eat nutriloaf just so he can get his corrupt ass on Fox News as "America's toughest sheriff".  I'm pretty sure that if and when they toss him in the clink for corruption he's gonna have pink underroos too.  They may not start out that way, but they'll end up that color.
 
2014-01-25 05:34:16 PM  
It's no different than the paintings Sheriff Joe keeps of Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong-Il.
 
2014-01-25 05:35:52 PM  

pueblonative: TerminalEchoes: Damn him. Treating inmates as though they had done something wrong! The horror!

Focusing just on the people who may be serving a misdemeanor sentence in the pokey and ignoring the people in there awaiting trial (you know, the ones considered innocent until proven otherwise), let's break something to your dear, sweet little heart: INCARCERATION IS THE PUNISHMENT YOU TOOL!  That's it.  It is not the sheriff's job to add ridiculous punishments like wearing pink underwear (nice rampant homophobia there) or making them eat nutriloaf just so he can get his corrupt ass on Fox News as "America's toughest sheriff".  I'm pretty sure that if and when they toss him in the clink for corruption he's gonna have pink underroos too.  They may not start out that way, but they'll end up that color.


He's never gonna see jail time. He's either gonna use lawyers to stonewall until he dies, or off himself before it gets that far.
 
2014-01-25 05:57:23 PM  
If you don't like it... don't go to jail.

Jail should be a miserable place...
 
2014-01-25 06:06:43 PM  

tlenon: If you don't like it... don't go to jail.

Jail should be a miserable place...


I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my people go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will troll you on Fark.
 
2014-01-25 06:09:07 PM  
The flag should not be used as a drapery, or for covering a speakers desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general. Bunting of blue, white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe of the bunting should be on the top.
The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It should not be embroidered, printed or otherwise impressed on such articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything intended to be discarded after temporary use.


Putting the flag on decals is against the rules of flag handling etiquette.  Said rules passed by the US government.  Joe should be put in solitary and fed nutraloaf and water for the next thirty days for doing so.

/if someone already pointed out the flag rules, sorry, I missed it.  Can't find my reading glasses.
 
2014-01-25 06:15:42 PM  
I'm wondering how much it would cost and/or if it would be legal to hire a big-rig outfitted with the loudest, most powerful sound system available, park it across the street from Arpaio's prison, and have it blast the Mexican national anthem at the loudest, most eath-shattering decibel level known to man......while simultaneously hiring a sky-writing plane to write "Cheer if you want Arpaio raped" in Spanish over the prison.
 
2014-01-25 06:17:43 PM  

hardinparamedic: TerminalEchoes: Damn him. Treating inmates as though they had done something wrong! The horror!

Because everyone in county jail has been convicted of a crime, or even put through due process, right?


Stop whining. If they're in there, even being held until trial, chances are that they did something to deserve being there. I know such a statement will rub your tender little hiney the wrong way, but that's life.
 
2014-01-25 06:20:59 PM  

cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?


Try drug and alcohol testing on politicians first. Better the poor spend welfare money on dope, rather then spending the money they made ransacking your home on drugs.
 
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