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(AZ Family)   As part of his efforts to promote patriotism in his jails, Sheriff Joe Arpaio puts inmates on a bread and water diet if they deface the American flag decals he makes mandatory in every cell   (azfamily.com) divider line 172
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2014-01-25 02:05:25 PM  
Assuming it is a sincere gesture, I don't get what he thinks putting a flag decal in a cell is going to accomplish.
 
2014-01-25 02:05:43 PM  
fc06.deviantart.net
 
2014-01-25 02:05:48 PM  

Elandriel: It must be hard to type when the only letters you can choose are two over one down.


+1 to you for that, I'm stealing it.
 
2014-01-25 02:06:12 PM  
This will lead to a series of lawsuits that, at the very least, will cost Maricopa County hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend against, and will probalby go into the millions if the lawsuits are successful.

But the slack-jawed yokels who keep voting  this bullshiat artist into office will herp and derp in approval.  And then they'll talk about how they are fiscally responisble conservatives.
 
2014-01-25 02:06:13 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: BafflerMeal: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: BafflerMeal: Seems like a flat out human rights violation. I know it's only for seven days, but that diet does no provide the calories or nutrition needed for an adult.

Uh, yes it does.  It's designed to EXACTLY that...it just tastes like crap.  It's not a plate of Wonder bread...

Article didn't mention nutriloaf.

Understand, but that doesn't change the fact that is is.  And seriously, 7 days of ACTUAL bread and water would be obviously criminal.  This is Phoenix, not some small town in the backwaters of Mississippi where the warden gets to do whatever he wants and nobody can stop him.

Critical thinking skills, people.


To be fair the article doesn't say nutra loaf but clearly has a picture of not wonder bread.
 
2014-01-25 02:06:17 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: I remember enjoying thoroughly that Steven Seagal said he had spent "millions of hours" in firearms training, only to have it pointed out that 1,000,000 hours = 114 years.


Again do you really think this is a joke?  Steven Segal has killed thousands of people on film with his bare hands.  That's enough evidence that I wouldn't question his skills in the arts of personal combat.  Sure he might technically be "above military weight requirements" and "75 years old", but he would wipe the floor with Seal Team 6 just like how he took out Cher in Under Siege.
 
2014-01-25 02:06:28 PM  

edmo: Endive Wombat: I gotta tell ya...I am genuinely shocked that:

1.  He has not been removed from his position, sued to the end of the Earth by the ACLU/former inmates under his care...or been placed under investigation by the Justice Dept.

2.  He has not been killed yet.  Seriously, it amazes me to no end that he and his family are still alive.  I cannot imagine that he has an entourage of heavily armed guards around him and his family 100% of the time.  There also has to be more than one former inmate who would gladly go back to prison if it meant causing some sort of pain for him and his family.

1. He's been sued plenty and DOJ is still after him.
2. He travels with a posse of bodyguards

We can only hope they'll manage to throw his ass in jail before he dies of old age

Sheriff Joe's patriotism would be much more impressive if he believed in things like the Constitution.


But he does!

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2014-01-25 02:06:37 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: BafflerMeal: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: BafflerMeal: Seems like a flat out human rights violation. I know it's only for seven days, but that diet does no provide the calories or nutrition needed for an adult.

Uh, yes it does.  It's designed to EXACTLY that...it just tastes like crap.  It's not a plate of Wonder bread...

Article didn't mention nutriloaf.

Understand, but that doesn't change the fact that is is.  And seriously, 7 days of ACTUAL bread and water would be obviously criminal.  This is Phoenix, not some small town in the backwaters of Mississippi where the warden gets to do whatever he wants and nobody can stop him.

Critical thinking skills, people.


sorry, but are you saying not provided child molesters (or whatever) more than fully nutritious bread and water is a violation of their human rights?

you realize this means we are violating the rights of millions of poor people in this country?
 
2014-01-25 02:07:39 PM  

Mantour: edmo: Endive Wombat: I gotta tell ya...I am genuinely shocked that:

1.  He has not been removed from his position, sued to the end of the Earth by the ACLU/former inmates under his care...or been placed under investigation by the Justice Dept.

2.  He has not been killed yet.  Seriously, it amazes me to no end that he and his family are still alive.  I cannot imagine that he has an entourage of heavily armed guards around him and his family 100% of the time.  There also has to be more than one former inmate who would gladly go back to prison if it meant causing some sort of pain for him and his family.

1. He's been sued plenty and DOJ is still after him.
2. He travels with a posse of bodyguards

We can only hope they'll manage to throw his ass in jail before he dies of old age

Sheriff Joe's patriotism would be much more impressive if he believed in things like the Constitution.

But he does!

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Maybe ya'll should look at the asshats keeping him in power.
Maybe.
 
2014-01-25 02:08:08 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: Popular Opinion: KidneyStone: I'm ok with this.

It's not that it's the flag, it's that it's destruction of government property and negative behavior.

Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.

is it possible these people are awaiting trial and not actually guilty of anything?

They would not be in jail if they had not broken been accused of breaking the law.


///don't get caught motherfarker


FTFY, and still not guilty dipshiat
 
2014-01-25 02:08:27 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: This is Phoenix, not some small town in the backwaters of Mississippi where the warden gets to do whatever he wants and nobody can stop him.


I dunno, Joe's been getting away with a LOT of seriously shady shiat (that has at times been very expensive for taxpayers) for a LONG time now.

cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?


Well, in Florida, the welfare recipients had to pay for their own drug tests, and the largest drug-testing company in the state happened to be owned  by the Governor's wife.  I don't think that liberals have a problem with trying to keep welfare recipients off drugs, but we DO have a problem with orchestrated efforts to transfer wealth from the poor to the rich using legislation----which is what these GOP-backed "reforms" have really amounted to.
 
2014-01-25 02:08:32 PM  
I feel the same way about my "God Bless This Camper" woodburned plaque.  You feck with the tchotchke you feck with me.  You feck with me and you've released the fury of the panther and the strength of fifteen robots.

I WILL CUT YOU!
 
2014-01-25 02:08:54 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: Popular Opinion: KidneyStone: I'm ok with this.

It's not that it's the flag, it's that it's destruction of government property and negative behavior.

Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.

is it possible these people are awaiting trial and not actually guilty of anything?

They would not be in jail if they had not broken the law.


///don't get caught motherfarker


You really don't understand the difference between jail and prison, don't you sweet'ums?
 
2014-01-25 02:09:16 PM  
White knights for ol'Joe. Whodathunkit?
 
2014-01-25 02:09:40 PM  
Sherrif joe has got to go.

as for his salt and pepper idea for saving money he has cost the county many time as much has that saved by his asshattery.
 
2014-01-25 02:10:25 PM  

berylman: Assuming it is a sincere gesture, I don't get what he thinks putting a flag decal in a cell is going to accomplish.


Join the Army.
Train as an MP.
Learn how to completely bury your good sense and humanity.
Work in a military prison for a bit, it will come to you.
 
2014-01-25 02:11:03 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: HMS_Blinkin: I remember enjoying thoroughly that Steven Seagal said he had spent "millions of hours" in firearms training, only to have it pointed out that 1,000,000 hours = 114 years.

Again do you really think this is a joke?  Steven Segal has killed thousands of people on film with his bare hands.  That's enough evidence that I wouldn't question his skills in the arts of personal combat.  Sure he might technically be "above military weight requirements" and "75 years old", but he would wipe the floor with Seal Team 6 just like how he took out Cher in Under Siege.


I was with you until the bolded part.  I'm outraged that you'd underestimate his kill count by a whole order of magnitude like that.  He's killed tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people.  You're just another lib who's afraid to to face facts.  Go enjoy your libfacts which apparently ignore 90% of Steven Segal's confirmed kills, you hippy.
 
2014-01-25 02:11:27 PM  
Many prisons are phasing out nutriloaf for various reasons, including to preempt impending cruel punishment lawsuits. Also, it binds you up pretty good, since it's so dense and most people don't drink enough water to replace what's not in their food.

Either way, joes a sociopath elected by a constituency of sociopaths.
 
2014-01-25 02:11:53 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: This is Phoenix, not some small town in the backwaters of Mississippi where the warden gets to do whatever he wants and nobody can stop him.

I dunno, Joe's been getting away with a LOT of seriously shady shiat (that has at times been very expensive for taxpayers) for a LONG time now.

cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?

Well, in Florida, the welfare recipients had to pay for their own drug tests, and the largest drug-testing company in the state happened to be owned  by the Governor's wife.  I don't think that liberals have a problem with trying to keep welfare recipients off drugs, but we DO have a problem with orchestrated efforts to transfer wealth from the poor to the rich using legislation----which is what these GOP-backed "reforms" have really amounted to.


Yeah, and this whole thing really has nothing to do with the treatment of prisoners as far as I'm concerned.  It's yet another bullshiat "Sheriff Joe" trick to get the morons who vote for him all worked up so they won't notice that he's a corrupt as hell scumbag who should be eating bread and water in one of those cells himself.
 
2014-01-25 02:12:04 PM  

cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?


The problem is that it costs waaay more to do the drug testing than is saved by finding one drug user among millions of welfare recipients who tests positive. I'm exaggerating the numbers, but Florida paid $20 million for drug testing and saved $20k because one person tested positive.

Of course, Gov. Gollum got kickbacks and sweetheart deals from the contractor that did the testing, and...it's Florida for chrissakes.
 
2014-01-25 02:13:04 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: pueblonative: As for 2, Joe's probably hired more people to fake assasinate him than anybody else.

Holy shiat!  So that farker staged a fake assassination (on the taxpayer's dime), committed entrapment and wrongfully jailed someone, and THEN cost the county $1.6 million in the ensuing lawsuit.  Why the fark is he still in office?!?!  How farking stupid are people?


Brick-House: generallyso: With each passing year I'm amazed this man retains his position.

With each passing year I am overjoyed this man retaines his position.

 
2014-01-25 02:13:07 PM  

Wally007: Duke_leto_Atredes: Popular Opinion: KidneyStone: I'm ok with this.

It's not that it's the flag, it's that it's destruction of government property and negative behavior.

Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.

is it possible these people are awaiting trial and not actually guilty of anything?

They would not be in jail if they had not broken been accused of breaking the law.


///don't get caught motherfarker

FTFY, and still not guilty dipshiat


Even if not guilty, getting "caught" is a bad day in Mudville.
Perhaps especially if not guilty of anything but being brown.
 
2014-01-25 02:13:36 PM  

skinink: The voters in his area keep electing him. They want this idiot in office then I can't be outraged over their pick. Obviously the Arizona voters are okay with his behavior.


I'm sure the American citizens that he's rounded up and detained in violation of their constitutional rights would beg to differ.


cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?


Other than the fact that it's expensive, a boondoggle for drug testing companies, finds drug rates at a lower level than the general population and is generally used to shame people who are poor, nothing at all.
 
2014-01-25 02:13:41 PM  
(checks main page)

Ahhhh, you have to be Godless to get the  img.fark.com tag these days.
Respect for the flag isn't good enough anymore with the usual suspects.
 
2014-01-25 02:14:13 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Doktor_Zhivago: HMS_Blinkin: I remember enjoying thoroughly that Steven Seagal said he had spent "millions of hours" in firearms training, only to have it pointed out that 1,000,000 hours = 114 years.

Again do you really think this is a joke?  Steven Segal has killed thousands of people on film with his bare hands.  That's enough evidence that I wouldn't question his skills in the arts of personal combat.  Sure he might technically be "above military weight requirements" and "75 years old", but he would wipe the floor with Seal Team 6 just like how he took out Cher in Under Siege.

I was with you until the bolded part.  I'm outraged that you'd underestimate his kill count by a whole order of magnitude like that.  He's killed tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people.  You're just another lib who's afraid to to face facts.  Go enjoy your libfacts which apparently ignore 90% of Steven Segal's confirmed kills, you hippy.


With reruns, it goes in the millions.
 
2014-01-25 02:14:50 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: hardinparamedic: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I wonder if it's working.

What is Joe's recidivism rate?
Is crime down or up, compared to the national average?
What's his cost per inmate?

In short: No, it's not.

Violent crime as a whole is down in Arizona per capita. The only area it continues to rise is in Joe's district.

Citation? Cuz I think that statement is full of shiat.

Oh, and the "bread" if a nutriition loaf that is used literally all over the country on inmates with discipline problems... But since this is Joe, it's cruel and unusual punishment.


I've never heard of bread and water being used literally all over the country. Where else is this being done?
 
2014-01-25 02:15:05 PM  

grimlock1972: Sherrif joe has got to go.

as for his salt and pepper idea for saving money he has cost the county many time as much has that saved by his asshattery.


i believe the idea is not to save money, but that low lifes would move and commit their crimes elsewhere, to places where jail life is comparatively posh, food and comfort wise.
 
2014-01-25 02:16:54 PM  
Dining Critic Tries Nutraloaf, the Prison Food for Misbehaving Inmates
JUSTICE IS BLAND: I eat Nutraloaf, the all-in-one "disciplinary loaf" served at Cook County Jail
BY JEFF RUBY
PUBLISHED AUG. 26, 2010


Inmates at Cook County Jail are allowed three privileges: television, books, and food. The staff has no compunction about denying its most difficult residents either of the first two, but under the Constitution, correctional facilities can't withhold food. Nothing in the Eighth Amendment, however, says the food has to taste good. "This is not the Four Seasons," says
Nutraloaf, a thick orange lump of spite with the density and taste of a dumbbell, could only be the object of Beelzebub's culinary desires. Packed with protein, fat, carbohydrates, and 1,110 calories, Nutraloaf contains everything from carrots and cabbage to kidney beans and potatoes, plus shadowy ingredients such as "dairy blend" and "mechanically separated poultry." You purée everything into a paste, shape it into a loaf, and bake it for 50 to 70 minutes at 375 degrees. Eat two a day and, boom, all your daily nutrients, right there. If you want the recipe, ask me.
Or just get yourself tossed into Cook County Jail, where an inmate who causes serious food-related problems buys himself a one-way ticket to Nutraloafopolis. Get caught making homemade hooch in your cell toilet? You get Nutraloaf. Hurl food at a guard or stab someone with a spork? Nutraloaf. Of the jail's 9,000 inmates, 21 have endured the Nutraloaf program since it began in June. One begged-No! Anything but Nutraloaf!-and another went on a hunger strike. Both men, and virtually every other Nutraloafer, straightened up enough to get back to the usual diet of oatmeal and processed bologna.
In July, I took the afternoon off from my job as  Chicagomagazine's dining critic and drove to 26th and California to dine on Nutraloaf. Cook County's stridently gray-brown cafeteria would never be mistaken for Naha, and the dish's presentation aims less for the wow factor than the break-your-spirit factor. An employee from Aramark Correctional Services-a branch of the Philadelphia-based company that also provides fare for college dorms and NFL stadiums-presented me a Styrofoam container sagging with a blunt ginger-toned mass roughly the size of a calzone and with the appearance of a neglected fruitcake. It had nothing else in common with either.
The mushy, disturbingly uniform innards recalled the thick, pulpy aftermath of something you dissected in biology class: so intrinsically disagreeable that my throat nearly closed up reflexively. But the funny thing about Nutraloaf is the taste. It's not awful, nor is it especially good. I kept trying to detect any individual element-carrot? egg?-and failing. Nutraloaf tastes blank, as though someone physically removed all hints of flavor. "That's the goal," says Mike Anderson, Aramark's district manager. "Not to make it taste bad but to make it taste neutral." By those standards, Nutraloaf is a culinary triumph; any recipe that renders all 13 of its ingredients completely mute is some kind of miracle.
I ate two-thirds and gave up, longing for any hint of flavor, even a bad one. That night, my stomach's rebellion against the loaf was anything but neutral. I felt so full and lethargic that I skipped dinner and the following breakfast. And let's just say I finally had a lot of time alone to catch up on myNew Yorker reading.
Even though inmates in several states, including Illinois, have sued over Nutraloaf, alleging cruel and unusual punishment, correctional departments everywhere are introducing their own versions of the "disciplinary loaf." None of the lawsuits have been successful. "We're not trying to dump Tabasco sauce on their tongues or anything like that," Dart says. "It just tastes like nothing." In other words, they found a loophole: Nutraloaf is not cruel; it's just unusual. Soon it may cease to be either.
 
2014-01-25 02:17:19 PM  

Descartes: (checks main page)

Ahhhh, you have to be Godless to get the  [img.fark.com image 54x11] tag these days.
Respect for the flag isn't good enough anymore with the usual suspects.


I'd be more apt to give that tag to somebody who wiped his ass with the flag and respected the Constitution, the Supremacy Clause, Equal Protection under the law, and Due Process rather than the other way around (aka, any day that ends with a "y" for good ol' Sheriff Schmoe)
 
2014-01-25 02:17:33 PM  

pueblonative: skinink: The voters in his area keep electing him. They want this idiot in office then I can't be outraged over their pick. Obviously the Arizona voters are okay with his behavior.

I'm sure the American citizens that he's rounded up and detained in violation of their constitutional rights would beg to differ.


cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?

Other than the fact that it's expensive, a boondoggle for drug testing companies, finds drug rates at a lower level than the general population and is generally used to shame people who are poor, nothing at all.


And the chumps think the expense of actually doing the "test" was performed.
I have been a certified specimen collector for decades, AMA.

/hint, less than half the time
 
2014-01-25 02:19:12 PM  

sdd2000: Dear Sheriff Joe:

"You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments."

Exodus 20:4-6

Signed G-d


THIS

Thanks, you just shackled his feet :)
 
2014-01-25 02:20:45 PM  

Popular Opinion: grimlock1972: Sherrif joe has got to go.

as for his salt and pepper idea for saving money he has cost the county many time as much has that saved by his asshattery.

i believe the idea is not to save money, but that low lifes would move and commit their crimes elsewhere, to places where jail life is comparatively posh, food and comfort wise.


Since that has never worked in history, how about if we just call him what he acts like for publicity.
This puke is just Rush w/o a radio show.

/we mass communicatin', Boy.
 
2014-01-25 02:23:09 PM  

snocone: Popular Opinion: grimlock1972: Sherrif joe has got to go.

as for his salt and pepper idea for saving money he has cost the county many time as much has that saved by his asshattery.

i believe the idea is not to save money, but that low lifes would move and commit their crimes elsewhere, to places where jail life is comparatively posh, food and comfort wise.

Since that has never worked in history, how about if we just call him what he acts like for publicity.
This puke is just Rush w/o a radio show.

/we mass communicatin', Boy.


i'm not sure you can definitively claim that none of Joe's former guests have not moved elsewhere to avoid staying at his hotel again.

not that i agree with his methods....but if you're claiming that to be true, i have to call bullshiat.
 
2014-01-25 02:24:42 PM  

inclemency: Removing salt and pepper from meals as well?

What a farking dick. Food without salt, especially when served to those who have had their tastebuds manipulated by big food their whole life, is nearly inedible. Add in the quality they serve prisoners and they're getting dog food.

/I know this feeble, old, hateful man has committed many worse atrocities but this offends me as a cook.


Really? I cook my own food pretty often, and unless I'm baking or eating a hard boiled egg, I never even touch the salt. Of course, it's not prison food. Am I really missing out?
 
2014-01-25 02:26:00 PM  
This will most likely instill a great sense of patriotism and a healthy fear of disrespecting our cheap plastic  chinese made glue backed symbol of freedom.
 
2014-01-25 02:28:28 PM  

berylman: Assuming it is a sincere gesture, I don't get what he thinks putting a flag decal in a cell is going to accomplish.


It keeps his retarded fan base fired up.
 
2014-01-25 02:29:40 PM  

MFAWG: berylman: Assuming it is a sincere gesture, I don't get what he thinks putting a flag decal in a cell is going to accomplish.

It keeps his retarded fan base fired up.


and pisses off the messicans
 
2014-01-25 02:30:43 PM  

Popular Opinion: MFAWG: berylman: Assuming it is a sincere gesture, I don't get what he thinks putting a flag decal in a cell is going to accomplish.

It keeps his retarded fan base fired up.

and pisses off the messicans


And LieBruls. So that's good enough.
 
2014-01-25 02:34:23 PM  

Descartes: (checks main page)

Ahhhh, you have to be Godless to get the  [img.fark.com image 54x11] tag these days.
Respect for the flag isn't good enough anymore with the usual suspects.


I'll just quote George Carlin on this.

The flag is a symbol, and I'll leave symbols to the symbol-minded.
 
2014-01-25 02:37:34 PM  

Popular Opinion: snocone: Popular Opinion: grimlock1972: Sherrif joe has got to go.

as for his salt and pepper idea for saving money he has cost the county many time as much has that saved by his asshattery.

i believe the idea is not to save money, but that low lifes would move and commit their crimes elsewhere, to places where jail life is comparatively posh, food and comfort wise.

Since that has never worked in history, how about if we just call him what he acts like for publicity.
This puke is just Rush w/o a radio show.

/we mass communicatin', Boy.

i'm not sure you can definitively claim that none of Joe's former guests have not moved elsewhere to avoid staying at his hotel again.

not that i agree with his methods....but if you're claiming that to be true, i have to call bullshiat.


Population numbers are on Wiki.
Enjoy your project.
 
2014-01-25 02:40:38 PM  

KidneyStone: I'm ok with this.

It's not that it's the flag, it's that it's destruction of government property and negative behavior.

Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.


Am I mistaken, or is jail (not prison) for people awaiting trial? Meaning none of these people have actually been convicted of a crime.
 
2014-01-25 02:45:59 PM  

snocone: Popular Opinion: snocone: Popular Opinion: grimlock1972: Sherrif joe has got to go.

as for his salt and pepper idea for saving money he has cost the county many time as much has that saved by his asshattery.

i believe the idea is not to save money, but that low lifes would move and commit their crimes elsewhere, to places where jail life is comparatively posh, food and comfort wise.

Since that has never worked in history, how about if we just call him what he acts like for publicity.
This puke is just Rush w/o a radio show.

/we mass communicatin', Boy.

i'm not sure you can definitively claim that none of Joe's former guests have not moved elsewhere to avoid staying at his hotel again.

not that i agree with his methods....but if you're claiming that to be true, i have to call bullshiat.

Population numbers are on Wiki.
Enjoy your project.


retarded much?
i said you cannot prove none of the criminals that spent time in cook county jail has moved elsewhere.
and you can't.
 
2014-01-25 02:46:51 PM  
Like All Republicans, Sheriff Joe Arpaio believes that "patriotism" means "believe what I believe or I will kill you". This is, and always has been, the mainstream Republican viewpoint on patriotism. For other examples of Mainstream Republican Patriots, see: Ted Nugent, John Birch, Rush Limbaugh, Vox Day, and whoever is the current Grand Dragon of the KKK.
 
2014-01-25 02:49:04 PM  
crockettlives.files.wordpress.comA bunch of registered Democrats desecrating an American Flag? Color me surprised.
 
2014-01-25 02:50:47 PM  

Popular Opinion: snocone: Popular Opinion: snocone: Popular Opinion: grimlock1972: Sherrif joe has got to go.

as for his salt and pepper idea for saving money he has cost the county many time as much has that saved by his asshattery.

i believe the idea is not to save money, but that low lifes would move and commit their crimes elsewhere, to places where jail life is comparatively posh, food and comfort wise.

Since that has never worked in history, how about if we just call him what he acts like for publicity.
This puke is just Rush w/o a radio show.

/we mass communicatin', Boy.

i'm not sure you can definitively claim that none of Joe's former guests have not moved elsewhere to avoid staying at his hotel again.

not that i agree with his methods....but if you're claiming that to be true, i have to call bullshiat.

Population numbers are on Wiki.
Enjoy your project.

retarded much?
i said you cannot prove none of the criminals that spent time in cook county jail has moved elsewhere.
and you can't.


And I don't give a flying fark.
Even up.
 
2014-01-25 02:51:13 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: pueblonative: As for 2, Joe's probably hired more people to fake assasinate him than anybody else.

Holy shiat!  So that farker staged a fake assassination (on the taxpayer's dime), committed entrapment and wrongfully jailed someone, and THEN cost the county $1.6 million in the ensuing lawsuit.  Why the fark is he still in office?!?!  How farking stupid are people?


They continue to live in that part of Arizona.

I'd say that explains how stupid they are.

That's what happens when fambly trees fork no more.
 
2014-01-25 02:51:51 PM  

organizmx: KidneyStone: I'm ok with this.

It's not that it's the flag, it's that it's destruction of government property and negative behavior.

Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.

Am I mistaken, or is jail (not prison) for people awaiting trial? Meaning none of these people have actually been convicted of a crime.


Usually it's a combo of people who are awaiting trial, those serving small (less than a year) sentences, and those found in civil contempt (not technically a crime).  Even so, having to put up with the AW'ing antics of a dude who's about to have a judicially appointed master start slapping his wrists to get him back in line to the tune of $21 million is cruel and unusual even if you've been convicted.
 
2014-01-25 02:54:12 PM  

pueblonative: organizmx: KidneyStone: I'm ok with this.

It's not that it's the flag, it's that it's destruction of government property and negative behavior.

Don't commit crime and you stay out of jail.

Am I mistaken, or is jail (not prison) for people awaiting trial? Meaning none of these people have actually been convicted of a crime.

Usually it's a combo of people who are awaiting trial, those serving small (less than a year) sentences, and those found in civil contempt (not technically a crime).  Even so, having to put up with the AW'ing antics of a dude who's about to have a judicially appointed master start slapping his wrists to get him back in line to the tune of $21 million is cruel and unusual even if you've been convicted.


Thanks. That still makes it worse though. So all these people he's being "tough" on are either:

1. Not actually convicted of a crime and just waiting trial.
2. Convicted, but sentenced to under a year.

He's not doing this to murderers and child rapists.
 
2014-01-25 02:54:37 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: This is Phoenix, not some small town in the backwaters of Mississippi where the warden gets to do whatever he wants and nobody can stop him.

I dunno, Joe's been getting away with a LOT of seriously shady shiat (that has at times been very expensive for taxpayers) for a LONG time now.

cards fan by association: I have a question. I'm generally pretty liberal, but what is wrong with drug/alcohol testing welfare recipients? Does anyone WANT to pay for another person's drug habit?

Well, in Florida, the welfare recipients had to pay for their own drug tests, and the largest drug-testing company in the state happened to be owned  by the Governor's wife.  I don't think that liberals have a problem with trying to keep welfare recipients off drugs, but we DO have a problem with orchestrated efforts to transfer wealth from the poor to the rich using legislation----which is what these GOP-backed "reforms" have really amounted to.


Heh, heh, they privatized that money right into their own pockets.
 
2014-01-25 02:55:20 PM  

snocone: Popular Opinion: snocone: Popular Opinion: snocone: Popular Opinion: grimlock1972: Sherrif joe has got to go.

as for his salt and pepper idea for saving money he has cost the county many time as much has that saved by his asshattery.

i believe the idea is not to save money, but that low lifes would move and commit their crimes elsewhere, to places where jail life is comparatively posh, food and comfort wise.

Since that has never worked in history, how about if we just call him what he acts like for publicity.
This puke is just Rush w/o a radio show.

/we mass communicatin', Boy.

i'm not sure you can definitively claim that none of Joe's former guests have not moved elsewhere to avoid staying at his hotel again.

not that i agree with his methods....but if you're claiming that to be true, i have to call bullshiat.

Population numbers are on Wiki.
Enjoy your project.

retarded much?
i said you cannot prove none of the criminals that spent time in cook county jail has moved elsewhere.
and you can't.

And I don't give a flying fark.
Even up.


if you regard being wrong in everything you've said so far as being "even", i'm fine with that.
 
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