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(Des Moines Register)   A high-speed police chase that spanned two counties in Iowa started with the theft of an eyebrow pencil and a pair of tweezers and ended with a car bursting into flames   (blogs.desmoinesregister.com) divider line 60
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2014-01-25 12:04:12 PM
You can never be too careful when it comes to eyebrow pencils.
 
2014-01-25 12:16:27 PM

TrotlineDesigns: There is never a reason for a high speed chase.. Ever.  I see it here in S. Florida with DUI suspects often.  Why risk a drunk going faster, now even more nervous and paying less attention on a public street?
It isn't fair to the citizens to risk their lives over some other person's crime when in the end more than anything else the cops do it for fun.


Been in multiple vehicle pursuits. None of them are fun.
 
2014-01-25 12:18:11 PM

namatad: petty theft = ZERO high speed chases. EVER
punishment for having no perspective should be extreme harsh


Actually the police seem to have acted pretty rationally and reasonable here given the information they had. The call came through as stolen pharmaceuticals. That's someone swiping drugs from a pharmacy. From the article they made a reasoned decision about continuing the chase taking into account the reported theft, the actions of the suspects, the lack of traffic and made a pretty defensible risk assessment. Even more in their favor they didn't open fire or beat the crap out of anyone after the chase and didn't pile on made up charges. Not a single 'terrorist' charge in the lot. The guy driven was charge with evading, driving with a suspended license, failing to obey a traffic control device and speeding, all pretty reasonable charges. The girl who took the stuff was charged with fifth-degree theft. And the other 2 weren't charged.

Compare this to the typical story you see here along this vain. Everyone in the truck would have at least gotten the crap beat out of them. Likely several would be dead from the barrage of 1000's of rounds of gunfire. They all would have had a long list of felony charges including resisting for, you know, getting in the way of the cops fists. There would be at least 2 or 3 charges against each of them for terroristic this and terroristic that.

No, in this case I'm 100% with the cops. Sounds like a job well done to me.
 
2014-01-25 12:20:38 PM

impaler: ReapTheChaos: There you go, the best way to fight crime is to let people know all they have to do to get away with one is to break the speed limit. Real genius plan.

Or you know, you take down their license plate number and arrest them later.

You seem authoritarian dumb, so I'm sure your next response is "what if the car was stolen." The answer is, "people don't steal cars to knock off toe nail clippers from Hy-Vee."


License plate tells you who owns the car, not who is driving it. No ID on the driver = no case.

What about rental cars?
Company cars?
Falsely registered cars?
Stolen cars?
Stolen plates?
Cars with no plates??

I could go on and on.
 
2014-01-25 12:40:36 PM

HideAndGoFarkYourself: TrotlineDesigns: There is never a reason for a high speed chase.. Ever.  I see it here in S. Florida with DUI suspects often.  Why risk a drunk going faster, now even more nervous and paying less attention on a public street?
It isn't fair to the citizens to risk their lives over some other person's crime when in the end more than anything else the cops do it for fun.

Been in multiple vehicle pursuits. None of them are fun.


This. (assuming you were not the runner..)
 
2014-01-25 01:03:35 PM

HideAndGoFarkYourself: License plate tells you who owns the car, not who is driving it. No ID on the driver = no case.


If only the place he stole from had some sort of image recording device for security...
 
2014-01-25 03:41:29 PM
If we just did away with all laws this tragedy could have been averted
 
2014-01-25 04:11:11 PM

TrotlineDesigns: ReapTheChaos: TrotlineDesigns: There is never a reason for a high speed chase.. Ever.  I see it here in S. Florida with DUI suspects often.  Why risk a drunk going faster, now even more nervous and paying less attention on a public street?
It isn't fair to the citizens to risk their lives over some other person's crime when in the end more than anything else the cops do it for fun.

There you go, the best way to fight crime is to let people know all they have to do to get away with one is to break the speed limit. Real genius plan.

Or, you know.. follow them until they run out of gas.. There is a crazy idea.  Why would getting some drunk to blaze at high speeds in the public streets be a problem?  I guess  it isn't until it is you, your family, or friends are killed by the drunk.. or the person running from the cops at 100mph.  What crime is worth the life of your kids?


Um, that's what they're already doing. You think they're going to calmly drive along with the cops following behind them? No, they will speed up and that's how high speed pursuits begin. Did you even think about that reply before you typed it?

impaler: ReapTheChaos: There you go, the best way to fight crime is to let people know all they have to do to get away with one is to break the speed limit. Real genius plan.

Or you know, you take down their license plate number and arrest them later.

You seem authoritarian dumb, so I'm sure your next response is "what if the car was stolen." The answer is, "people don't steal cars to knock off toe nail clippers from Hy-Vee."


That wouldn't prove who was driving the car. No proof of driver, no arrest. Also, do you think that someone who would run from the cops and start a high speed chase would calmly open the door once they're home?

In most of these cases, these people run from the cops because they, or someone in the car, are wanted by police, have drugs on them, are drunk/high or a combination of those.
 
2014-01-25 05:28:37 PM

ReapTheChaos: That wouldn't prove who was driving the car. No proof of driver, no arrest. Also, do you think that someone who would run from the cops and start a high speed chase would calmly open the door once they're home?


Guess what, there's ways to easily identify thieves even if you don't know they're driving. And you can easily arrest someone at home. It's been done plenty of times. The high-speed chase begins with the person thinking they can easily lose the cop, and then things escalate. With no escape path, they usually capitulate easily.

in most cases. You can run the plates. find where they live, put surveillance on the house and easily arrest them when they come home.
 
2014-01-26 01:02:33 AM

Kurmudgeon: Jerry was a race car driver.


Primus sucks.
 
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