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(Billings Gazette)   America's best brewer defeats America's worst brewer in taste, body, fullness, aroma, and lawsuits   (billingsgazette.com) divider line 52
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2014-01-24 07:28:58 PM  
thefourfirkins.com
 
2014-01-24 07:37:44 PM  
I've never heard of those commercials and never heard of that brewing company.

I have heard that phrase many times, but never attributed it to someone's slogan or copyright.

But good for them.
 
2014-01-24 07:48:01 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I've never heard of those commercials and never heard of that brewing company.

I have heard that phrase many times, but never attributed it to someone's slogan or copyright.

But good for them.


Well, eventually someone somewhere is smart enough to find a way to copyright something the rest of the world thought was uncopyrightable.
 
2014-01-24 08:43:33 PM  
I don't know if I'd go so far as to characterize Big Sky as "America's best brewer," but I will say that Moose Drool is a really good beer, IMHO. If they sell it where you live, you should try it.
 
2014-01-24 08:52:38 PM  
John Krasinski is awful.  Now that The Office is long gone, maybe he will end his pretensions of being an actor and go back to selling insurance all day long.
 
2014-01-24 08:52:42 PM  
Ivan the Terrible and Old Bluehair are quite nice. Would cellar some bottles if I could find them again.

By the way, subby - A-B is Belgian.
 
2014-01-24 08:53:00 PM  
"Hold my beer and watch this" is much older than even Big Sky's references in 2004. So I say neither should get the trademark.
 
2014-01-24 08:53:04 PM  
Someone should also sue Anheuser-Busch for false advertising, because Bud Light isn't beer at all, it's urine.
 
2014-01-24 08:56:05 PM  
Hold my joint and watch this.
 
2014-01-24 09:00:24 PM  
I wouldn't call Anheuser-Busch America's worst brewer; all of their beer is consistently bland....

/ not good...not bad...just "meh"
 
2014-01-24 09:01:54 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I've never heard of those commercials and never heard of that brewing company.

I have heard that phrase many times, but never attributed it to someone's slogan or copyright.

But good for them.


This for the most part. I don't care for the idea of patenting common phrases or internet memes. Seems like once that becomes even more common, it's a slippery slope. Good for the lawyers, but no one else.
 
2014-01-24 09:07:00 PM  

Glitchwerks: Someone should also sue Anheuser-Busch for false advertising, because Bud Light isn't beer at all, it's urine.


Well, technically it's still beer, albeit second-hand.
 
2014-01-24 09:07:13 PM  
Like Moose Drool, my local pub had it on tap for a while, sorry to see it go.
 
2014-01-24 09:11:25 PM  

BenJammin: Hold my joint and watch this.


Did you fall asleep?
 
2014-01-24 09:16:04 PM  
Bear Whizz Beer.

It's in the water.
That's why it's yellow.
 
2014-01-24 09:21:24 PM  
What real beer looks like.
pbs.twimg.com
 
2014-01-24 09:29:03 PM  
There are those who would argue that Anhauser Busch is the best. Is it not subjective? Just because it's your least favorite does that make it the worst? My personal favorite happens to be right here where I live Mad River Brewing Company.
 
2014-01-24 09:29:57 PM  
Beer snob thread

www.godlikeproductions.com
 
2014-01-24 09:30:47 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: By the way, subby - A-B is Belgian.


Technically, you're correct. The very best kind of correct.
 
2014-01-24 09:33:30 PM  
Why do I keep getting articles whose bodies consist of greyed-out hyphens???
 
2014-01-24 09:36:39 PM  
hipsterhunter.com
 
2014-01-24 09:42:37 PM  
America's best brewer defeats America's worst brewer in taste, body, fullness, aroma, and lawsuits.

So Russian River defeated Anheuser-Busch? Funny I didn't see their name in the article.
 
2014-01-24 09:43:30 PM  

KungFuJunkie: What real beer looks like.
[pbs.twimg.com image 600x800]


People are going to look at that pic and think Hopslam is made by Tyranena.

/Love me some Tyranena
 
2014-01-24 09:54:55 PM  
Cool, maybe the Montana guys can help out the little Vermont brewery who has been getting pushed around by AB for their Vermonster beer for years.  A-B doesn't have a case but they can essentially win because they can exhaust the little brewery through attrition and appeals.
 
2014-01-24 09:59:05 PM  
Hold my cock and watch this.......
 
2014-01-24 10:00:47 PM  
People have been saying this since beer was invented. Prior art should invalidate any claim of infringement
 
2014-01-24 10:08:30 PM  
Making love in a canoe
 
2014-01-24 10:08:47 PM  

Tony_Pepperoni: Hold my cock and watch this.......


Hahaha, that's just too damn funny, or I'm just too damn high... um... medicated right now.   Thanks for the visual!!!  haha
 
2014-01-24 10:10:08 PM  
www.drunkard.com
 
2014-01-24 10:13:09 PM  

Warlordtrooper: People have been saying this since beer was invented. Prior art should invalidate any claim of infringement


The beat(down) goes on....
 
2014-01-24 10:16:16 PM  

austin_millbarge: America's best brewer defeats America's worst brewer in taste, body, fullness, aroma, and lawsuits.

So Russian River defeated Anheuser-Busch? Funny I didn't see their name in the article.


I was thinking the same think about Dogfish Head or Troegs.
.

/Moose Drool is pretty darn good, though
 
2014-01-24 10:21:21 PM  

austin_millbarge: America's best brewer defeats America's worst brewer in taste, body, fullness, aroma, and lawsuits.

So Russian River defeated Anheuser-Busch? Funny I didn't see their name in the article.


That's a funny way of spelling Rogue
 
2014-01-24 10:27:46 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I've never heard of those commercials and never heard of that brewing company.

I have heard that phrase many times, but never attributed it to someone's slogan or copyright.

But good for them.


FriarReb98: Well, eventually someone somewhere is smart enough to find a way to copyright something the rest of the world thought was uncopyrightable.


Mark Ratner: This for the most part. I don't care for the idea of patenting common phrases or internet memes. Seems like once that becomes even more common, it's a slippery slope. Good for the lawyers, but no one else.


Warlordtrooper: People have been saying this since beer was invented. Prior art should invalidate any claim of infringement


www.clickandcopyright.com

A trademark is a word, phrase, symbol, and/or design that identifies and distinguishes the source of the goods of one party from those of others. A service mark is a word, phrase, symbol, and/or design that identifies and distinguishes the source of a service rather than goods. The term "trademark" is often used to refer to both trademarks and service marks.
Must all marks be registered? No, but federal registration has several advantages, including a notice to the public of the registrant's claim of ownership of the mark, a legal presumption of ownership nationwide, and the exclusive right to use the mark on or in connection with the goods or services set forth in the registration.

A patent is a limited duration property right relating to an invention, granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office in exchange for public disclosure of the invention.

A copyright protects works of authorship, such as writings, music, and works of art that have been tangibly expressed.

http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/definitions.jsp
 
2014-01-24 10:34:21 PM  

Cyno01: scottydoesntknow: I've never heard of those commercials and never heard of that brewing company.

I have heard that phrase many times, but never attributed it to someone's slogan or copyright.

But good for them.

FriarReb98: Well, eventually someone somewhere is smart enough to find a way to copyright something the rest of the world thought was uncopyrightable.

Mark Ratner: This for the most part. I don't care for the idea of patenting common phrases or internet memes. Seems like once that becomes even more common, it's a slippery slope. Good for the lawyers, but no one else.

Warlordtrooper: People have been saying this since beer was invented. Prior art should invalidate any claim of infringement

[www.clickandcopyright.com image 500x418]

A trademark is a word, phrase, symbol, and/or design that identifies and distinguishes the source of the goods of one party from those of others. A service mark is a word, phrase, symbol, and/or design that identifies and distinguishes the source of a service rather than goods. The term "trademark" is often used to refer to both trademarks and service marks.
Must all marks be registered? No, but federal registration has several advantages, including a notice to the public of the registrant's claim of ownership of the mark, a legal presumption of ownership nationwide, and the exclusive right to use the mark on or in connection with the goods or services set forth in the registration.

A patent is a limited duration property right relating to an invention, granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office in exchange for public disclosure of the invention.

A copyright protects works of authorship, such as writings, music, and works of art that have been tangibly expressed.

http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/definitions.jsp


Thanks man, I appreciate the info. Other than that, you have nothing to add? Oh well, at least I learned something.
 
2014-01-24 10:55:06 PM  
There's so much Moose Drool in my car it's affecting my gas mileage, so I'm getting a buzz from these replies.
 
2014-01-24 11:00:49 PM  
I hate Anheuser-Busch and the gobbling up of small brewers, garbage beer under their own name, and general acting like a huge company and beating up on small brewers that they do like everyone else, but I find this trademark to be total B.S.  That is a "joke" I heard when I was a sprout (the 1970's) and as such should not be something someone can trademark just because they were the first person to think of locking everyone else out.

I hate bogus trademarks, copyrights, and patents as they are having a huge impact on our society, and for every case like this where the little guy "wins" there are a hundred cases of the big boys keeping the rest of us out of the marketplace.
 
2014-01-24 11:19:28 PM  

Sneakytoes: Why do I keep getting articles whose bodies consist of greyed-out hyphens???


It happens when a subby isn't smart enough to link to the print view of the page instead of a "be a good lil monkey and take a survey first" one.
 
2014-01-24 11:40:05 PM  
I always heard it as a joke: what's the last thing a redneck says before he dies.. hold my beer etc.

I'd guess it's at least as old as stupid rednecks, and that goes back quite a fur spell.
 
2014-01-24 11:49:59 PM  
Entire article redacted...
 
2014-01-25 12:02:08 AM  
ST. LOUIS - Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc. has removed the "Hold my beer and watch this" videos from its Bud Light YouTube page, and the craft brewer that sued over use of the phrase has dropped the legal action.
Big Sky Brewing Co. of Missoula sued Anheuser-Busch in December, saying it had a trademark for the phrase "Hold my beer and watch this" and had used the slogan since 2004. Big Sky dropped the suit on Wednesday in exchange for Anheuser-Busch removing the videos. There was no financial settlement, Anheuser-Busch spokeswoman Lisa Weser said.
The three videos were created by actor John Krasinski, best known as Jim Halpert on NBC's "The Office," and his business partner, Danny Stessen. They depict strange things that could happen after asking someone to hold your beer. In one, a grandmother celebrating her 100th birthday feigns death after asking a young man to hold her beer, then she and a friend high-five and laugh after the man and his friends leave.
The videos, which debuted in early December, were popular. They had several million views before being taken down on Jan. 15.
"We may revisit the concept," Weser said Thursday. "We stand by our original statement that there was no trademark use of the phrase 'Hold my beer and watch this,' nor was there any intent to create any association with Big Sky."
Neal Leathers, a founder of Big Sky Brewing and the company president, said the point of the settlement was to assure that neither Anheuser-Busch nor any other brewer used the slogan.
"We've always thought we were on very firm legal ground here, but the last thing you need is a lawsuit dragging on and on, and taking us away from brewing beer," Leathers said.
Anheuser-Busch-InBev is the world's largest brewer, based in Belgium. InBev purchased Anheuser-Busch in 2008 and retained St. Louis as its U.S. headquarters. The company makes top-
selling beers such as Bud Light and Budweiser and commands 47.6 percent of the U.S. beer market.
Big Sky makes craft beers with such names as "Moose Drool," "Trout Slayer" and "Slow Elk." The company website says it is the nation's 50th-largest brewer with sales of around 50,000 barrels of beer in 2013. Big Sky brews are sold in 24 states.
The A-B videos were online only and did not air on television.
Big Sky's lawsuit filed Dec. 20 included photos of cans of one of its brews, the back reading "Hold my beer and watch this." Anheuser-Busch officials contended that countless videos, jokes and other references used words and phrasing similar to "hold my beer and watch this."
"We liked the videos," Weser said. "They got great views. We thought they had run their course and right now we're really focused on our Super Bowl advertising that will debut in the game."
 
2014-01-25 12:02:51 AM  
If you're dumb enough to try and obfuscate content, at least encrypt it. Don't shove it, in plain text, in the source of your stupid web page - it doesn't take a genius to read it.
 
2014-01-25 12:07:00 AM  

interstellar_tedium: I hate Anheuser-Busch and the gobbling up of small brewers, garbage beer under their own name, and general acting like a huge company and beating up on small brewers that they do like everyone else, but I find this trademark to be total B.S.  That is a "joke" I heard when I was a sprout (the 1970's) and as such should not be something someone can trademark just because they were the first person to think of locking everyone else out.

I hate bogus trademarks, copyrights, and patents as they are having a huge impact on our society, and for every case like this where the little guy "wins" there are a hundred cases of the big boys keeping the rest of us out of the marketplace.


they are only defending the use s it relates to promoting beer and they have been using it for ten years. There was no ruling, just an agreement that AB take down their adds. Settle down
 
2014-01-25 12:28:40 AM  

Glitchwerks: Someone should also sue Anheuser-Busch for false advertising, because Bud Light isn't beer at all, it's urine.


and we're done here.
 
2014-01-25 12:29:36 AM  

Mark Ratner:


that's not a pbr.
 
2014-01-25 12:32:58 AM  

vodka: "Hold my beer and watch this" is much older than even Big Sky's references in 2004. So I say neither should get the trademark.


The maker of Candy Crush was granted a trademark on the farking word CANDY.  The lunatics are running the asylum.
 
2014-01-25 12:36:35 AM  

Mark Ratner: Cyno01: scottydoesntknow: I've never heard of those commercials and never heard of that brewing company.

I have heard that phrase many times, but never attributed it to someone's slogan or copyright.

But good for them.

FriarReb98: Well, eventually someone somewhere is smart enough to find a way to copyright something the rest of the world thought was uncopyrightable.

Mark Ratner: This for the most part. I don't care for the idea of patenting common phrases or internet memes. Seems like once that becomes even more common, it's a slippery slope. Good for the lawyers, but no one else.

Warlordtrooper: People have been saying this since beer was invented. Prior art should invalidate any claim of infringement

[www.clickandcopyright.com image 500x418]

A trademark is a word, phrase, symbol, and/or design that identifies and distinguishes the source of the goods of one party from those of others. A service mark is a word, phrase, symbol, and/or design that identifies and distinguishes the source of a service rather than goods. The term "trademark" is often used to refer to both trademarks and service marks.
Must all marks be registered? No, but federal registration has several advantages, including a notice to the public of the registrant's claim of ownership of the mark, a legal presumption of ownership nationwide, and the exclusive right to use the mark on or in connection with the goods or services set forth in the registration.

A patent is a limited duration property right relating to an invention, granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office in exchange for public disclosure of the invention.

A copyright protects works of authorship, such as writings, music, and works of art that have been tangibly expressed.

http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/definitions.jsp

Thanks man, I appreciate the info. Other than that, you have nothing to add? Oh well, at least I learned something.


And... what that means is: something that is trademarked is trademarked for the purpose of selling a particular type of product. These guys have the trademark for that slogan for selling beer. Now, if someone wants to use it for selling bandages, they're in the clear. If you want to use it in a song or comedy sketch, you're in the clear. But you can't use it for selling beer.
 
2014-01-25 01:03:54 AM  

Greek: Mark Ratner: Cyno01: scottydoesntknow: I've never heard of those commercials and never heard of that brewing company.

I have heard that phrase many times, but never attributed it to someone's slogan or copyright.

But good for them.

FriarReb98: Well, eventually someone somewhere is smart enough to find a way to copyright something the rest of the world thought was uncopyrightable.

Mark Ratner: This for the most part. I don't care for the idea of patenting common phrases or internet memes. Seems like once that becomes even more common, it's a slippery slope. Good for the lawyers, but no one else.

Warlordtrooper: People have been saying this since beer was invented. Prior art should invalidate any claim of infringement

[www.clickandcopyright.com image 500x418]

A trademark is a word, phrase, symbol, and/or design that identifies and distinguishes the source of the goods of one party from those of others. A service mark is a word, phrase, symbol, and/or design that identifies and distinguishes the source of a service rather than goods. The term "trademark" is often used to refer to both trademarks and service marks.
Must all marks be registered? No, but federal registration has several advantages, including a notice to the public of the registrant's claim of ownership of the mark, a legal presumption of ownership nationwide, and the exclusive right to use the mark on or in connection with the goods or services set forth in the registration.

A patent is a limited duration property right relating to an invention, granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office in exchange for public disclosure of the invention.

A copyright protects works of authorship, such as writings, music, and works of art that have been tangibly expressed.

http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/definitions.jsp

Thanks man, I appreciate the info. Other than that, you have nothing to add? Oh well, at least I learned something.

And... what that means is: something that is trademarked ...


Yeah, I get it. Maybe I didn't make that clear that I understood that " slogan" from a beer I never heard was legally protected to promote that product. I've heard the phrase many times, never associating it with that brand of beer. I'm more interested in hearing the opinions of fellow farkers regarding the scope of trademarking common sayings or Internet memes. Sounds like it all worked out though. The brewery got free publicity and if I saw a six pack for sale, I'd buy it and try it.
 
2014-01-25 01:21:59 AM  

drewsclues: BenJammin: Hold my joint and watch this.

Did you fall asleep?


Oh, you missed it man!
 
2014-01-25 06:39:37 AM  
"Rion Spurlock, a brewer at Big Sky Brewing in Missoula, wipes down one a vessels."

Dude, do you even English?
 
2014-01-25 07:53:43 AM  
Isn't that like winning the special olympics ? Or an argument on fark ?
 
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