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(The Wire)   One graduated from Stanford with a 3.9 GPA and showed poor sportsmanship after biggest win of his career. The other street-raced a sports car while drunk. Guess which one the pundits labeled "misguided" and which one they called a "dangerous thug"?   (thewire.com) divider line 302
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2014-01-24 03:17:11 PM
Interesting read, but methinks the article cherry-picked it's quotes.  I'm sure that within 15 minutes or so, I could find a bunch "Leave Sherman Alone!" quotes and a lot of "Bieber's the devil!" ones, and write the complete opposite article.
 
2014-01-24 03:25:15 PM
Yeah, but his degree is in *Communications*.
 
2014-01-24 03:34:18 PM
From the "No one who speaks German could be an evil man" line of reasoning, if he has a college education and a good GPA, he can't possibly be a loudmouthed asshole.
 
2014-01-24 03:40:34 PM
Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

cbssports.com
 
2014-01-24 03:44:23 PM

kronicfeld: From the "No one who speaks German could be an evil man" line of reasoning, if he has a college education and a good GPA, he can't possibly be a loudmouthed asshole.


DANGEROUS THUG. You missed the point. Completely...
 
2014-01-24 03:50:26 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Yeah, but his degree is in *Communications*.


Now that's funny.
 
2014-01-24 03:51:47 PM

kronicfeld: From the "No one who speaks German could be an evil man" line of reasoning, if he has a college education and a good GPA, he can't possibly be a loudmouthed asshole.


Young man jacked up on adrenaline yells into a mic. Doesn't swear, just yells.

WHAT AN ASSHOLE.
 
2014-01-24 03:56:51 PM
"The only reason [being called a thug] bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling someone the n-word nowadays," Sherman said.

Unfortunately, he's right.
 
2014-01-24 03:58:14 PM

mediablitz: kronicfeld: From the "No one who speaks German could be an evil man" line of reasoning, if he has a college education and a good GPA, he can't possibly be a loudmouthed asshole.

Young man jacked up on adrenaline yells into a mic. Doesn't swear, just yells.

WHAT AN ASSHOLE.


Self-aggrandizes, denigrates his opponent. So jackhole behavior.
 
2014-01-24 04:03:25 PM
Paying players to intentionally injure other players? Whatevs man. JEEZ WHY ARE YOU ALL SO UPSET?

Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

Bullying the shiat out of teammates, up to and including racial slurs and death threats? WARRIOR CULTURE WHY ARE YOU SUCH A PUSSY.

Talking some shiat about a receiver you just outperformed on your way to the Super Bowl? OH GOD WORSE THAN HITLER.
 
2014-01-24 04:08:10 PM
Oh boy, here comes this thread again.
 
2014-01-24 04:11:43 PM
BTW, Crabtree is an overpaid sissy.
 
2014-01-24 04:11:54 PM
Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?
 
2014-01-24 04:12:19 PM

Cagey B: Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.


You really can't believe anything Chief Internet says these days. He's been messing around too much with the firewire.
 
2014-01-24 04:12:42 PM
You can't spell THUG without HUG!
 
2014-01-24 04:12:46 PM

scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

[cbssports.com image 640x400]


After I saw that, fark Crabtree.  During the game I just saw Sherman going off and I was like "dude, tone it down".  Now, I think it wasn't very classy but neither is most of the shiat talking that most NFL players do these days.
 
2014-01-24 04:13:07 PM

mediablitz: kronicfeld: From the "No one who speaks German could be an evil man" line of reasoning, if he has a college education and a good GPA, he can't possibly be a loudmouthed asshole.

Young man jacked up on adrenaline yells into a mic. Doesn't swear, just yells.

WHAT AN ASSHOLE.


HowardDean.jpg
 
2014-01-24 04:13:32 PM
one wasn't legally drunk

one took classes on the special atheltes only class list at a shcool that grades pass/fail
 
2014-01-24 04:14:04 PM

LineNoise: Cagey B: Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

You really can't believe anything Chief Internet says these days. He's been messing around too much with the firewireater


Fixed
 
2014-01-24 04:14:26 PM
let's settle this - Sherman vs. the Beib, 3 rounds, last one standing gets 1 year pass from the press
FIGHT!
 
2014-01-24 04:14:32 PM
OOH OOH PICK ME PICK ME
 
2014-01-24 04:14:42 PM
I can't believe people are STILL talking about the Sherman thing.
 
2014-01-24 04:15:46 PM

RidersOfLohan: one wasn't legally drunk

one took classes on the special atheltes only class list at a shcool that grades pass/fail


Bieber was legally drunk. He's 19, not 21.

Sherman took Masters' level classes, not BA in Football classes.
 
2014-01-24 04:15:49 PM

RidersOfLohan: one wasn't legally drunk

one took classes on the special atheltes only class list at a shcool that grades pass/fail


Were you in those same classes?
 
2014-01-24 04:16:01 PM

Cagey B: Paying players to intentionally injure other players? Whatevs man. JEEZ WHY ARE YOU ALL SO UPSET?

Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

Bullying the shiat out of teammates, up to and including racial slurs and death threats? WARRIOR CULTURE WHY ARE YOU SUCH A PUSSY.

Talking some shiat about a receiver you just outperformed on your way to the Super Bowl? OH GOD WORSE THAN HITLER.


Uh...is there a "perfect answer" button?
 
2014-01-24 04:16:05 PM

scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.


I can't think of a nicer, more genuine time to tell someone "hell of a game" than just after you just beat him 1 on 1 killing his chances but with time still on the clock.  Does it make any sense in your head how Sherman went from kind gentleman shaking his hand and saying "hell of a game" to being an adrenaline jacked up guy talking smack in the interview?

Hell of an analysis you have there.  Hell of an analysis.
 
2014-01-24 04:16:19 PM
Or how about this... they both did something stupid, both realized it later, neither is really a "thug", and people do throw around "thug" too loosely.
 
2014-01-24 04:16:19 PM
Castigating "The Media" for how it treats news stories and then quoting primarily right-wing shock-jocks?

FAIL!
 
2014-01-24 04:16:31 PM
Lets put them on an island with only enough food for one to survive, and make it a reality TV show.
 
2014-01-24 04:16:47 PM
I watched Sherman's apology where he said he acted immaturely and was a distraction to the rest of the team.  It was sincere, non-coerced and very well spoken.  Apology accepted.

/Let's see how he reacts after Peyton receivers burn him a few times
 
2014-01-24 04:16:51 PM

kronicfeld: mediablitz: kronicfeld: From the "No one who speaks German could be an evil man" line of reasoning, if he has a college education and a good GPA, he can't possibly be a loudmouthed asshole.

Young man jacked up on adrenaline yells into a mic. Doesn't swear, just yells.

WHAT AN ASSHOLE.

Self-aggrandizes, denigrates his opponent. So jackhole behavior.


Right after his opponent stiff-armed his handshake.

Also, that doesn't even matter. Oh wow, a 25 year old pumped up on adrenaline after a big game was loud and a bit obnoxious while endangering no one anywhere even a little bit. Surely, next you will tell me another tall tale. Perhaps the sky was blue today. What of water? Is it wet?
 
2014-01-24 04:17:05 PM

cwheelie: let's settle this - Sherman vs. the Beib, 3 rounds, last one standing gets 1 year pass from the press
FIGHT!


There was a Mike Tyson I remember that lasted 8 seconds. LL Cool J said something about it later.
 
2014-01-24 04:17:24 PM
The black one?
 
2014-01-24 04:17:59 PM
Didn't we already cover this pretty heavily in the Sports tag all of this week?

1. He's well-educated
2. Majored in communications
3. Well-spoken in other contexts

Conclusion?

YOU PEOPLE ARE GIVING HIM WHAT HE WANTS.
 
2014-01-24 04:18:30 PM
Since Sherman has a Communications degree, and Justin Beiber is well.. Justin Bieber,  can we all just agree they are both bad?  Send Sherman to the frozen north (for the Super Bowl) and also send Bieber to the frozen north (deport the drunk, sizzurp, speeding, duchbag).
 
2014-01-24 04:18:32 PM

JayCab: Didn't we already cover this pretty heavily in the Sports tag all of this week?

1. He's well-educated
2. Majored in communications
3. Well-spoken in other contexts

Conclusion?

YOU PEOPLE ARE GIVING HIM WHAT HE WANTS.


What's your point?
 
2014-01-24 04:18:38 PM

Cagey B: Paying players to intentionally injure other players? Whatevs man. JEEZ WHY ARE YOU ALL SO UPSET?

Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

Bullying the shiat out of teammates, up to and including racial slurs and death threats? WARRIOR CULTURE WHY ARE YOU SUCH A PUSSY.

Talking some shiat about a receiver you just outperformed on your way to the Super Bowl? OH GOD WORSE THAN HITLER.


Well look at how stupid you are.
 
2014-01-24 04:19:18 PM

CalvinMorallis: Interesting read, but methinks the article cherry-picked it's quotes.  I'm sure that within 15 minutes or so, I could find a bunch "Leave Sherman Alone!" quotes and a lot of "Bieber's the devil!" ones, and write the complete opposite article.


Then do so. Seriously, pull up the quotes and do it.
 
2014-01-24 04:19:22 PM

scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

[cbssports.com image 640x400]


I have no opinion on thuggery or lackthereof. But what he was doing there was saying, "that play I just made? It won the game." The game wasn't over yet when he did it, but he was rubbing it in Crabtree's face that it was pretty much a done thing.
 
2014-01-24 04:19:50 PM

Cagey B: Paying players to intentionally injure other players? Whatevs man. JEEZ WHY ARE YOU ALL SO UPSET?

Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

Bullying the shiat out of teammates, up to and including racial slurs and death threats? WARRIOR CULTURE WHY ARE YOU SUCH A PUSSY.

Talking some shiat about a receiver you just outperformed on your way to the Super Bowl? OH GOD WORSE THAN HITLER.


Godwin?
 
2014-01-24 04:19:54 PM

Carn: scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

[cbssports.com image 640x400]

After I saw that, fark Crabtree.  During the game I just saw Sherman going off and I was like "dude, tone it down".  Now, I think it wasn't very classy but neither is most of the shiat talking that most NFL players do these days.


Had he said something that was reflective of his GPA, no one would be saying shiat right now...
/as mentioned, his GPA is not reflective of his college career
 
2014-01-24 04:19:55 PM

blatz514: LineNoise: Cagey B: Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

You really can't believe anything Chief Internet says these days. He's been messing around too much with the firewireater

Fixed


I took it as thatsthejoke.jpg
 
2014-01-24 04:19:56 PM

netweavr: JayCab: YOU PEOPLE ARE GIVING HIM WHAT HE WANTS.

What's your point?


That if people would stop talking about it, the problem would go away?

/Yeah, that's like asking for world peace, puppies, and hugs from a unicorn
 
2014-01-24 04:20:21 PM
Sherman's being compared to Justin Bieber now?  Hasn't he suffered enough?
 
2014-01-24 04:20:26 PM
Don't say "Thug" around black people, apparently its the new "N word" these days.
 
2014-01-24 04:20:31 PM

scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.


Actually, I didn't have a problem with either player's behavior. That's just football. My problem is with the guy who clotheslined Jeremy Lane on the sideline.
 
2014-01-24 04:20:43 PM

blatz514: LineNoise: Cagey B: Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

You really can't believe anything Chief Internet says these days. He's been messing around too much with the firewireater

Fixed


woooshhh
 
2014-01-24 04:20:43 PM

kronicfeld: From the "No one who speaks German could be an evil man" line of reasoning, if he has a college education and a good GPA, he can't possibly be a loudmouthed asshole.


That was a joke on the simpsons, not a line of reasoning.
 
2014-01-24 04:20:44 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Yeah, but his degree is in *Communications*.


Thought it was pronounced "commroonications"  like "compruter" is pronounced.
 
2014-01-24 04:20:49 PM

parahaps: scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

[cbssports.com image 640x400]

I have no opinion on thuggery or lackthereof. But what he was doing there was saying, "that play I just made? It won the game." The game wasn't over yet when he did it, but he was rubbing it in Crabtree's face that it was pretty much a done thing.


The game was over. It wasn't rude.

Also, when did Crabtree suddenly become an innocent? This is the guy who raged out and refused to play because Hayward-Bey was a higher draft pick.
 
2014-01-24 04:21:39 PM

blatz514: LineNoise: Cagey B: Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

You really can't believe anything Chief Internet says these days. He's been messing around too much with the firewireater limewire in the coconut.

Fixed


There. Now it's fixed.
 
2014-01-24 04:21:40 PM

InterruptingQuirk: cwheelie: let's settle this - Sherman vs. the Beib, 3 rounds, last one standing gets 1 year pass from the press
FIGHT!

There was a Mike Tyson I remember that lasted 8 seconds. LL Cool J said something about it later.


Tyson's hat was like a shark's fin?
 
2014-01-24 04:22:07 PM
Had the white girl not been frightened by the dark person's smack talk, this would've been way less of a deal.

/that poor princess
 
2014-01-24 04:22:16 PM

BMulligan: scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

Actually, I didn't have a problem with either player's behavior. That's just football. My problem is with the guy who clotheslined Jeremy Lane on the sideline.


I still can't tell if he did it intentionally or defensively. The video looks, to me, like he's moving out of the way but too slowly, so he braces himself.
 
2014-01-24 04:22:50 PM
Not a 'Biebs' fan, but is less than 0.08% BAC actually 'drunk'?
 
2014-01-24 04:22:56 PM

scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

[cbssports.com image 640x400]


I still haven't seen a screen cap of sherman grabbing crabtree's ass right before he says "helluva game", but i think it was the grabass that provoked the punch. that's how it looked to me watching on tv, anyway
 
2014-01-24 04:23:02 PM

gameshowhost: Had the white girl not been frightened by the dark person's smack talk, this would've been way less of a deal.

/that poor princess


She wasn't frightened. She was caught off-guard that he didn't give the cliche answer. She asked the correct follow-up questions.

She did well.
 
2014-01-24 04:23:30 PM
How's that outreach going for you guys?
 
2014-01-24 04:23:37 PM

kronicfeld: From the "No one who speaks German could be an evil man" line of reasoning, if he has a college education and a good GPA, he can't possibly be a loudmouthed asshole.


"Thug" is not synonymous with "loudmouthed asshole".
 
2014-01-24 04:23:46 PM
But I've been assured that racism is over.
 
2014-01-24 04:23:47 PM

lennavan: but with time still on the clock.


Let's be real - the game was over. 2 timeouts and 20 seconds left means the game's over and you won't be on the field again.
 
2014-01-24 04:24:04 PM

Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?


I think 'being a hockey player' implies 'thug'. I mean hell, who'd watch hockey if they DIDN'T beat the snot out of each other?
 
2014-01-24 04:24:13 PM

AmbassadorBooze: Since Sherman has a Communications degree, and Justin Beiber is well.. Justin Bieber,  can we all just agree they are both bad?  Send Sherman to the frozen north (for the Super Bowl) and also send Bieber to the frozen north (deport the drunk, sizzurp, speeding, duchbag).


Now wait a minute there.  Not so fast. You wanted him, you keep him. Like Celine. You're running the star making machine, you get to hang on to them.
 
2014-01-24 04:24:18 PM

ObscureNameHere: Not a 'Biebs' fan, but is less than 0.08% BAC actually 'drunk'?


If you're 19, yes.
 
2014-01-24 04:24:34 PM

tlars699: blatz514: LineNoise: Cagey B: Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

You really can't believe anything Chief Internet says these days. He's been messing around too much with the firewireater limewire in the coconut.

Fixed

There. Now it's fixed.


win
 
2014-01-24 04:24:42 PM
Yes, but the Biebs is a Canadian. There are no Canadian thugs. Just imagine Michael J Fox walking around the hood with his 40oz.
 
2014-01-24 04:24:43 PM

Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?


There's an interesting Wiki on the NBA and its controversies...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association_critici sm s_and_controversies

Apparently, there's a double standard on a lot of sports in America.

/plus it mentions Charles Barkley biatching about music talent selected for an NBA event
 
2014-01-24 04:24:47 PM

netweavr: gameshowhost: Had the white girl not been frightened by the dark person's smack talk, this would've been way less of a deal.

/that poor princess

She wasn't frightened. She was caught off-guard that he didn't give the cliche answer. She asked the correct follow-up questions.

She did well.


*shh*

img.fark.net
 
2014-01-24 04:25:07 PM

ObscureNameHere: Not a 'Biebs' fan, but is less than 0.08% BAC actually 'drunk'?


Alcohol affects women twice as much as men.
 
2014-01-24 04:25:16 PM

LordJiro: Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?

I think 'being a hockey player' implies 'thug'. "goon" I mean hell, who'd watch hockey if they DIDN'T beat the snot out of each other?


GET 69!! It's a funny number!!!
 
2014-01-24 04:25:32 PM

IAmRight: lennavan: but with time still on the clock.

Let's be real - the game was over. 2 timeouts and 20 seconds left means the game's over and you won't be on the field again.


But... but... but! There has been one game in the history of NFL where the Chargers flubbed a V-Formation snap!
 
2014-01-24 04:26:04 PM

IAmRight: lennavan: but with time still on the clock.

Let's be real - the game was over. 2 timeouts and 20 seconds left means the game's over and you won't be on the field again.


You're not seriously arguing Sherman wasn't shoving it in Crabtree's face, are you?
 
2014-01-24 04:26:41 PM
Well I have no problems with throwing Bieber under the bus
 
2014-01-24 04:26:42 PM

AmbassadorBooze: Since Sherman has a Communications degree, and Justin Beiber is well.. Justin Bieber,  can we all just agree they are both bad?  Send Sherman to the frozen north (for the Super Bowl) and also send Bieber to the frozen north (deport the drunk, sizzurp, speeding, duchbag).


Biebs is from Holland?
 
2014-01-24 04:26:47 PM
We talk about this, not because we care about what this guy said, but because racists really want validation that they're "not racist" so they tell each other that.  A few of the more petulant of us go "nuh uh."  Which hurts their feelings some more, and they go around another Fox News roundtable about how the real racists are the ones who noticed racism.
 
2014-01-24 04:26:47 PM

kwame: ObscureNameHere: Not a 'Biebs' fan, but is less than 0.08% BAC actually 'drunk'?

Alcohol affects women twice as much as men.


So the prescription meds where actually birth control?
 
2014-01-24 04:27:12 PM

netweavr: But... but... but! There has been one game in the history of NFL where the Chargers flubbed a V-Formation snap!


I was even going to add...

/unless Philip Rivers is involved
 
2014-01-24 04:27:17 PM

Whack-a-Mole: blatz514: LineNoise: Cagey B: Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

You really can't believe anything Chief Internet says these days. He's been messing around too much with the firewireater

Fixed

I took it as thatsthejoke.jpg


olapbill: blatz514: LineNoise: Cagey B: Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

You really can't believe anything Chief Internet says these days. He's been messing around too much with the firewireater

Fixed

woooshhh


Shut up, the both of yas!

/I have no excuse.
 
2014-01-24 04:27:26 PM
Biebs didn't do it as a professional in his uniform, representing himself, his team and his league. He didn't do it on national TV and...uh...and...hmmmm...he's white.
 
2014-01-24 04:27:44 PM
"The gist: people are writing differently about Bieber and Sherman because of the color of their skin."

If, in fact, people are treating them differently you would have to ask them why rather than just assume it's racism.
 
2014-01-24 04:27:54 PM

ObscureNameHere: Not a 'Biebs' fan, but is less than 0.08% BAC actually 'drunk'?


If you're under 21, legally yes.
 
2014-01-24 04:27:57 PM

tlars699: blatz514: LineNoise: Cagey B: Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

You really can't believe anything Chief Internet says these days. He's been messing around too much with the firewireater limewire in the coconut.  west Philadelphia, born and raised, on the playground is where I spent most of my days. Chillin' out, maxin', relaxin' all cool, shootin' some B-ball outside of the school when a couple of guys who were up to no good started makin' trouble in my neighborhood. I got in one little fight and my mom got scared and said, "You're movin' with your aunty and uncle in Bel Air"


FTFY
 
2014-01-24 04:28:17 PM

IAmRight: netweavr: But... but... but! There has been one game in the history of NFL where the Chargers flubbed a V-Formation snap!

I was even going to add...

/unless Philip Rivers is involved


I really want Rivers to get traded out of the AFC West so I can root for him to get a ring.
 
2014-01-24 04:28:18 PM
Richard Sherman acted inappropriately. Argue all you want that it was adrenaline fueled or totally expected right after an NFL game, but there are countless interviews with people right after NFL games on the field and they don't yell and scream and denigrate opponents. That being said, what he did was not thuggish. He is engaging, intelligent, and very funny when I've seen him give interviews where he isn't playing "Richard Sherman the talking character" persona.

He is exactly right that people use "thug" to characterize someone and it is definitely based on skin color, dreadlocks, whatever because they can't say the n-word.

Also, Justin Bieber is a goddamn idiot that is allowed to do whatever the hell he wants because he is rich and famous and a popular 20yo white pop star.

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I can see why people would be upset with what Sherman did. However, you can be upset with what he did without resorting to labeling him a thug or using other dog whistle words to paint a picture that is not realistic. And, you can be upset with what he did without being racist.

On the other side, I can see why people do not have a problem with what Sherman did. Personally, I just had an issue with him attacking Crabtree. Everything else was perfectly fine and I didn't really care about the situation five seconds after the interview was over.

As for the difference in coverage, it is very striking, but I am not all that surprised. And, people that don't admit race plays a part in the difference in coverage are willfully obtuse.
 
2014-01-24 04:28:42 PM
They're only calling Sherman a "thug" because he's a member of a union.  All union members are thugs.
 
2014-01-24 04:28:57 PM

scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

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THIS!

It is what started it all.  I was watching the game like most people.  And I thought that was farked up.  Then I saw Sherman yelling at the camera (the reaction of the poor interviewer was priceless).  I honestly thought it was some kind of joke.  No one acts like that in front of the camera!
As it turns out, he really WAS pissed off, and had every right to be.  Was it unprofessional?  Sure.  But try winning the game that won the conference championship, and got your team to the biggest game of the year, and not have YOUR adreneline pumping like crazy.  I don't think he was really thinking professionally at that moment.

If the media is portraying him any differently, they are sorely mistaken.  I think it was actually pretty funny, what he did...


Beiber?  Self-entilted, spoiled rich, little brat, with abosolutely no resprect or regard for his position and the people that got him there.  Such to a point that he quite literally spits on them.

If the media are portraying him as just some misguided kid or something, they are SERIOUSLY at fault for not making him responsible for how he's acting.  I suppose it's going to take his actually physically hurting someone to get through to them.
 
2014-01-24 04:29:00 PM
Gotta be Bieber.

He is a total thug. He acts like he wants to black, but not like the ones you usually see on tv and the movies.
 
2014-01-24 04:29:12 PM
for a guy who supposedly is educated from Stanford he did not use any of those skills in the interview. He just came across as some loud mouth shiat talking dumbass.

So he wants to play the other people do worse scenario. Well here the thing. The NFL is made up of actual thugs, killers, rapists etc etc. So when Mr. GPA reduces himself to a mouthbreathing shiat talker EVERYONE is going to lump him in with the crowd that makes the NFL cringe worthy. He has only himself to blame. You only get ONE chance to make a first impression and he basically introduced himself to America by coming across as an asshole.

So is it unfair that Beiber gets a pass ? Sure but he also didn't introduce himself to the world as a shiat talking jerk.

It doesn't matter WHY he said the things he did, it was his delivery and timing.
 
2014-01-24 04:29:13 PM

lennavan: scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

I can't think of a nicer, more genuine time to tell someone "hell of a game" than just after you just beat him 1 on 1 killing his chances but with time still on the clock.  Does it make any sense in your head how Sherman went from kind gentleman shaking his hand and saying "hell of a game" to being an adrenaline jacked up guy talking smack in the interview?

Hell of an analysis you have there.  Hell of an analysis.


I think Scotty trolled you.  If I recall that scene correctly, Sherman doesn't appear to be saying "hell of a game".
Sherman's character may be questionable now but the real test will be when he gets a game-play beat down.
Suh is probably more of a thug than Sherman.
 
2014-01-24 04:29:31 PM

LordJiro: Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?

I think 'being a hockey player' implies 'thug'. I mean hell, who'd watch hockey if they DIDN'T beat the snot out of each other?


No no no, in hockey we call them goons and that is definitely a subset of all players.
 
2014-01-24 04:29:40 PM

netweavr: kwame: ObscureNameHere: Not a 'Biebs' fan, but is less than 0.08% BAC actually 'drunk'?

Alcohol affects women twice as much as men.

So the prescription meds where actually birth control?


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2014-01-24 04:29:43 PM

lennavan: You're not seriously arguing Sherman wasn't shoving it in Crabtree's face, are you?


a) I've seen him say "helluva play" to guys (including Crabtree) when they've beaten him for catches before
b) I can definitely see how Crabtree would take it that way
c) Crabtree deserves to have it shoved in his face every day, and we should continue to mock him after his sorry-ass comments after the game about how Sherman "only made one play." YOU MADE ZERO. YOU'VE MADE ZERO IN YOUR ENTIRE CAREER AGAINST HIM.
 
2014-01-24 04:29:43 PM

scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a because he is a crying biatch.

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FTFM

/Fark Crabtree
 
2014-01-24 04:30:00 PM
Fark this "Sherman & Crabtree" crap. The fact that Sherman was excited and didn't do anything wrong has been established, as has the fact that Crabtree is an unsportsmanlike asshole, the reporter handled his exuberance well, and other sports writers & fans demonstrated the kind of racism that's become institutionalized in football.

The only question I care about is this: When do we deport Bieber?
 
2014-01-24 04:30:58 PM

Crudbucket: tlars699: blatz514: LineNoise: Cagey B: Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

You really can't believe anything Chief Internet says these days. He's been messing around too much with the firewireater limewire in the coconut.  west Philadelphia, born and raised, on the playground is where I spent most of my days. Chillin' out, maxin', relaxin' all cool, shootin' some B-ball outside of the school when a couple of guys who were up to no good started makin' trouble in my neighborhood. I got in one little fight and my mom got scared and said, "You're movin' with your aunty and uncle in Bel Air"

FTFY


Dammit! Why does Fresh Prince always win?!
 
2014-01-24 04:31:06 PM

blatz514: Whack-a-Mole: blatz514: LineNoise: Cagey B: Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

You really can't believe anything Chief Internet says these days. He's been messing around too much with the firewireater

Fixed

I took it as thatsthejoke.jpg

olapbill: blatz514: LineNoise: Cagey B: Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

You really can't believe anything Chief Internet says these days. He's been messing around too much with the firewireater

Fixed

woooshhh

Shut up, the both of yas!

/I have no excuse.


TGIF. s'all good.
 
2014-01-24 04:31:16 PM

netweavr: BMulligan: scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

Actually, I didn't have a problem with either player's behavior. That's just football. My problem is with the guy who clotheslined Jeremy Lane on the sideline.

I still can't tell if he did it intentionally or defensively. The video looks, to me, like he's moving out of the way but too slowly, so he braces himself.


Maybe. That explanation fits the video evidence as well as the alternative, I guess. But I'd sure like to know that someone at least looked into it, anyway. In any event, I am SO looking forward to seeing these teams face to face again next season.
 
2014-01-24 04:31:20 PM

durbnpoisn: scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

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THIS!

It is what started it all.


You are literally the only person in the country who thinks this is where it all started.  Literally the only one.
 
2014-01-24 04:31:48 PM

Carn: LordJiro: Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?

I think 'being a hockey player' implies 'thug'. I mean hell, who'd watch hockey if they DIDN'T beat the snot out of each other?

No no no, in hockey we call them goons and that is definitely a subset of all players.


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2014-01-24 04:32:20 PM
If we do not address the uppity kneegrahs with funny haircuts problem facing this blessed nation, our way of life shall wither and wane!
 
2014-01-24 04:32:30 PM

kindms: You only get ONE chance to make a first impression and he basically introduced himself to America by coming across as an asshole.


If that was his first impression, then you don't follow football. Dude's a 2x All-Pro CB in his first two full seasons.

Odd Bird: If I recall that scene correctly, Sherman doesn't appear to be saying "hell of a game".


See, that's the funny thing about racism.

Sherman was mic'd up. The audio played. He literally said "Hell of a game. Hell of a game." And that's all.
 
2014-01-24 04:32:34 PM
On a side note, I really really want to know how involved Sherman was in the filming and release of the headphone commercial where the reporter says something about thugs. Talk about incredibly awesome timing.

I really don't know how much he could've planned it, but he has an extremely vocal/public interview where he probably knew he would get attacked for it. I'm not sure if you could predict how much "thug" would get thrown around this week.

But, goddamn they lucked out with the release of that commercial.
 
2014-01-24 04:33:24 PM

scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.


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Han Crabtree shot unsportsmanliked first.


Should Sherman have exploded like that. No. Is it understandable that the did when they poked a mic in his face RIGHT after all of this happened? Yes.

 
2014-01-24 04:33:50 PM

LincolnLogolas: Yes, but the Biebs is a Canadian. There are no Canadian thugs. Just imagine Michael J Fox walking around the hood with his 40oz.


Yeah, but he might be an hooligan!
 
2014-01-24 04:33:52 PM
Sherman slaps Crabtree on the ass
And by slap, I mean "caressed his inner thigh in manner that my tend to provoke a punch in the face"
 
2014-01-24 04:34:14 PM

netweavr: Carn: LordJiro: Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?

I think 'being a hockey player' implies 'thug'. I mean hell, who'd watch hockey if they DIDN'T beat the snot out of each other?

No no no, in hockey we call them goons and that is definitely a subset of all players.


Yeah, but what about the WNBA?
 
2014-01-24 04:34:31 PM
It's like nobody remembers that Crabtree's a douchebag. Just like Eli and Elway.
 
2014-01-24 04:34:46 PM

mediablitz: kronicfeld: From the "No one who speaks German could be an evil man" line of reasoning, if he has a college education and a good GPA, he can't possibly be a loudmouthed asshole.

Young man jacked up on adrenaline yells into a mic. Doesn't swear, just yells.

WHAT AN ASSHOLE.


Football player makes a critical play, team goes to Superbowl, yells shiat during an on-field interview.

WHAT AN ASSHOLE!

/ I thought Sherman was funny.  Don't get the hate.
 
2014-01-24 04:35:08 PM
KILL 'EM!!
RIP THEIR HEADS OFF!!
YES! YOU'VE WON! YOU ARE GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL!!
now please answer some questions calmly and carefully immediately following the game otherwise people might get the wrong idea
 
2014-01-24 04:36:01 PM

bulldg4life: But, goddamn they lucked out with the release of that commercial.


Is it luck when Dre is in the house and two Beats endorsers (Kaepernick and Sherman) are involved in the final play, with Kaep testing Sherman? If Kaep wins that battle, then his ad about him going into the hostile Seattle environment and tuning it all out is almost perfect.

Since Sherman won, I think it was pre-planned to come out like that to make the Beats ad a bit more prescient.

/still think that he would've toned it down some but Fox cut his interview off so he never got to that part so it was pure, unadulterated smack talk
//why else would Kaepernick throw such a stupid pass?
 
2014-01-24 04:36:03 PM

lennavan: scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

I can't think of a nicer, more genuine time to tell someone "hell of a game" than just after you just beat him 1 on 1 killing his chances but with time still on the clock.  Does it make any sense in your head how Sherman went from kind gentleman shaking his hand and saying "hell of a game" to being an adrenaline jacked up guy talking smack in the interview?

Hell of an analysis you have there.  Hell of an analysis.


My swim coaches always made sure to impress on every swimmer on their team the need to congratulate the other swimmers in their heat for a good race no matter what. If they touched me out, I was still supposed to tell them good race. If I touched them out, I was still supposed to tell them good race. If they went way slower than their seed time, I was still supposed to tell them good race. The one time that I remember failing to shake hands with the fellow swimmers in my heat and showed poor sportsmanship, the very first thing my coaches told me was that I was a terrible sport for not doing so.
 
2014-01-24 04:36:07 PM

blatz514: You can't spell THUG without HUG!


You can't spell SLAUGTHER without LAUGHTER!
 
2014-01-24 04:36:21 PM

CalvinMorallis: Interesting read, but methinks the article cherry-picked it's quotes.  I'm sure that within 15 minutes or so, I could find a bunch "Leave Sherman Alone!" quotes and a lot of "Bieber's the devil!" ones, and write the complete opposite article.


It very definitely cherry-picked the hell out of them.

Negative comments: all from talk radio hosts, gossip rags, internet mud-slinging sites
Moderate quotes pointing out that a person's full legacy is more than a single instance of bad behavior: Actual newspapers, credible outlets for analysis, even farkin' Forbes for some reason.

It's not a question of Beiber v Sherman, it's a question of talk radio and the daily caller versus actual news organizations.  The professionals don't take it upon themselves to condemn people.

// Although I do find the fact that Rush Limbaugh is a Beleiber absurdly farkin' hilarious.  Always assumed he was a classic rock kind of guy, for all his other faults.
 
2014-01-24 04:36:24 PM
I think we're all forgetting that this black man unleashed his thuggishness in the vicinity of a PRETTY WHITE WOMAN. Yes, he exercised his free speech, but doing so made an attractive white woman BRIEFLY CONFUSED AND UNCOMFORTABLE.

This was that woman before Sherman thugged his thuggery at her:

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And this was her afterwards (artist's characterization):

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Not so innocent now, is it?!
 
2014-01-24 04:36:25 PM

durbnpoisn: scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

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THIS!

It is what started it all.  I was watching the game like most people.  And I thought that was farked up.  Then I saw Sherman yelling at the camera (the reaction of the poor interviewer was priceless).  I honestly thought it was some kind of joke.  No one acts like that in front of the camera!
As it turns out, he really WAS pissed off, and had every right to be.  Was it unprofessional?  Sure.  But try winning the game that won the conference championship, and got your team to the biggest game of the year, and not have YOUR adreneline pumping like crazy.  I don't think he was really thinking professionally at that moment.

If the media is portraying him any differently, they are sorely mistaken.  I think it was actually pretty funny, what he did...


Beiber?  Self-entilted, spoiled rich, little brat, with abosolutely no resprect or regard for his position and the people that got him there.  Such to a point that he quite literally spits on them.

If the media are portraying him as just some misguided kid or something, they are SERIOUSLY at fault for not making him responsible for how he's acting.  I suppose it's going to take his actually physically hurting someone to get through to them.


Actually, the story is that it all started at a charity event last year when the two of them allegedly almost came to blows, but there's considerable controversy over what actually happened at that event.
 
2014-01-24 04:36:44 PM

FormlessOne: Fark this "Sherman & Crabtree" crap. The fact that Sherman was excited and didn't do anything wrong has been established, as has the fact that Crabtree is an unsportsmanlike asshole, the reporter handled his exuberance well, and other sports writers & fans demonstrated the kind of racism that's become institutionalized in football.

The only question I care about is this: When do we deport Bieber?


We can't? I mean, it's not like Canada will take him back, now that we've corrupted him with affluenza.
 
2014-01-24 04:38:09 PM

Misconduc: Don't say "Thug" around black people, apparently its the new "N word" these days.


If that wasn't obvious during the Trayvon Martin mess, you simply were not paying attention.  Mentor to most Modern GOP strategists, Lee Atwater summed it up neatly before he died

You start in 1954 by saying '{N-word}, {N-word} , {N-word}  .' By 1968 you can't say '{N-word} .' That hurts you. It backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states rights and all that stuff and you get so abstract. Now you talk about cutting taxes and these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that's part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract and that coded, we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. Obviously sitting around saying we want to cut taxes and we want this, is a lot more abstract than even the busing thing and a hell of a lot more abstract than {N-word} .  {N-word} "

and then in 2014 when you realize that most of your remaining base is too stupid to really get abstraction, you shout "thug, thug, thug"  and know they'll get it
 
2014-01-24 04:38:53 PM

Serious Black: My swim coaches always made sure to impress on every swimmer on their team the need to congratulate the other swimmers in their heat for a good race no matter what.


Now, how about if one of your opponents tried to fight you last year at a charity race, was a c*nt before the meet, said you weren't the best even though you were, then cut you off in your lane (if that were somehow possible without getting DQ'd) and you still beat him, then you went to shake his hand and he pushed you in the face?

F*ck pretending to like that b*tch.

Why should you have to respect someone who doesn't deserve respect?
 
2014-01-24 04:39:03 PM
Anybody who doesn't think there was a racial component to how the Sherman story was reacted to or covered is either playing dumb or legitimately dumb.
 
2014-01-24 04:39:15 PM

lennavan: durbnpoisn: scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

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THIS!

It is what started it all.

You are literally the only person in the country who thinks this is where it all started.  Literally the only one.


Not even close, dude.
 
2014-01-24 04:40:17 PM
I wonder who would win in a no holds barred fight to the death match between sherman and bieber.
 
2014-01-24 04:40:47 PM

IAmRight: lennavan: You're not seriously arguing Sherman wasn't shoving it in Crabtree's face, are you?

a) I've seen him say "helluva play" to guys (including Crabtree) when they've beaten him for catches before
b) I can definitely see how Crabtree would take it that way
c) Crabtree deserves to have it shoved in his face every day, and we should continue to mock him after his sorry-ass comments after the game about how Sherman "only made one play." YOU MADE ZERO. YOU'VE MADE ZERO IN YOUR ENTIRE CAREER AGAINST HIM.


I can agree with all of this.  Especially C.  "YOUR ONLY PLAY WAS THE MOST CRUCIAL, GAME WINNING PLAY."  Wow, you got him there, you farkin knob.

Sherman definitely shoved it in Crabtree's face.  Crabtree had it comin for a long time.  I don't get all the deal with the Andrews interview.  Sure he was kinda douchey but I get the adrenaline'd up bit and Sherman handled it with a whole fark ton of class the next day.  Crabtree's a pussy.

But you're insane if you don't think that ass slap and "hell of a game" wasn't shoving it in his face.
 
2014-01-24 04:41:15 PM

netweavr: parahaps: scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

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I have no opinion on thuggery or lackthereof. But what he was doing there was saying, "that play I just made? It won the game." The game wasn't over yet when he did it, but he was rubbing it in Crabtree's face that it was pretty much a done thing.

The game was over. It wasn't rude.

Also, when did Crabtree suddenly become an innocent? This is the guy who raged out and refused to play because Hayward-Bey was a higher draft pick.


In your post, I guess, because I've never seen anyone else claim he was.
 
2014-01-24 04:41:41 PM

Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?


I believe the word you are looking for is "goon".
 
2014-01-24 04:41:50 PM
Well, to be fair:

   blacksportsonline.com   upload.wikimedia.org

upload.wikimedia.org  ionetheurbandaily.files.wordpress.com

cdn.stereogum.com
 
2014-01-24 04:42:16 PM

TrotlineDesigns: Gecko Gingrich: Yeah, but his degree is in *Communications*.

Thought it was pronounced "commroonications"  like "compruter" is pronounced.


Or "Bruick"

static.cargurus.com
 
2014-01-24 04:43:08 PM

kronicfeld: denigrates


You mean denubianates.
 
2014-01-24 04:43:08 PM
I don't feel like searching for it, but I'm pretty sure I've heard Justin Bieber referred to as a thug.
 
2014-01-24 04:43:13 PM

a particular individual: Well, to be fair:

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Counter Argument: Eminem.
 
2014-01-24 04:43:20 PM

SuperNinjaToad: I wonder who would win in a no holds barred fight to the death match between sherman and bieber.


The pay per view could fund the national debt.
 
2014-01-24 04:44:08 PM
How many hundreds of articles referred to Richie Incognito as a thug? Google search it. This is just more race baiting bullshiat. Can we please get over this any and all criticism of a black person must be rooted in racism nonsense?
 
2014-01-24 04:44:32 PM

a particular individual: Well, to be fair:

      

  


Ooooh, cool! Now, post an NWA image!
 
2014-01-24 04:45:14 PM

Serious Black: My swim coaches always made sure to impress on every swimmer on their team the need to congratulate the other swimmers in their heat for a good race no matter what. If they touched me out, I was still supposed to tell them good race. If I touched them out, I was still supposed to tell them good race. If they went way slower than their seed time, I was still supposed to tell them good race. The one time that I remember failing to shake hands with the fellow swimmers in my heat and showed poor sportsmanship, the very first thing my coaches told me was that I was a terrible sport for not doing so.


Say you're doing the 4 person relay and you swim 3rd.  This would be like your leg starts out neck and neck and you smoke the kid so bad the anchor doesn't stand a chance of ever catching up, so right after you touch the wall, you say "good race" to the kid you just smoked.

I get sportsmanship.  Rugby has you all beat - the home team takes the visiting team out drinking at the team bar.  But again, you're insane if you think Sherman was doing that to be a nice guy.
 
2014-01-24 04:45:25 PM
Sherman is already getting payed from Beats Audio from this whole thing
 
2014-01-24 04:45:41 PM
What I don't understand is why people don't think Sherman was just talking tough for the next opponent in the Super Bowl. I think it was probably more about appearing thuggish towards the next set of receivers than it was about the last set of receivers.

Andrews: "Richard, let me ask you about the final play. Take me through it."
Sherman: "Well, I'm the best corner in the game. When you try me with a sorry receiver like Crabtree, that's the result you're going to get. Don't you ever talk about me."
Andrews: "Who was talking about you?"
Sherman: "Crabtree. Don't you open your mouth about the best. Or I'm ma shut it for you real quick. L.O.B (Legion of boom, the nickname of the Seahawks secondary)."
Andrews: "Alright, before ... Well, Joe, back over to you."

I didn't see it happen--I'd turned off the game after the Bowman debacle. But it reads like he was just posing for the next opponent.
 
2014-01-24 04:46:09 PM

SuperNinjaToad: I wonder who would win in a no holds barred fight to the death match between sherman and bieber.


Music?
 
2014-01-24 04:46:59 PM

IAmRight: Serious Black: My swim coaches always made sure to impress on every swimmer on their team the need to congratulate the other swimmers in their heat for a good race no matter what.

Now, how about if one of your opponents tried to fight you last year at a charity race, was a c*nt before the meet, said you weren't the best even though you were, then cut you off in your lane (if that were somehow possible without getting DQ'd) and you still beat him, then you went to shake his hand and he pushed you in the face?

F*ck pretending to like that b*tch.

Why should you have to respect someone who doesn't deserve respect?


Everybody deserves redemption.
 
2014-01-24 04:47:14 PM

IAmRight: lennavan: You're not seriously arguing Sherman wasn't shoving it in Crabtree's face, are you?

a) I've seen him say "helluva play" to guys (including Crabtree) when they've beaten him for catches before
b) I can definitely see how Crabtree would take it that way
c) Crabtree deserves to have it shoved in his face every day, and we should continue to mock him after his sorry-ass comments after the game about how Sherman "only made one play." YOU MADE ZERO. YOU'VE MADE ZERO IN YOUR ENTIRE CAREER AGAINST HIM.


So according to "a)", Sherman has congratulated Crabtree on plays where Crabtree has beaten him for a catch and according to "c)", that has never happened in his career.

/Clarity?
 
2014-01-24 04:47:41 PM

keypusher: In your post, I guess, because I've never seen anyone else claim he was.


Most of the media doesn't mock him enough for being a b*tch with his sorry claims after the game and then on Twitter.

The best know when they failed and use it to get better. Sorry players like Crabtree fail and then say "yeah, but it's okay."

lennavan: But you're insane if you don't think that ass slap and "hell of a game" wasn't shoving it in his face.


I think it could've been, in part, genuine. But I also know he's smart enough to know how Crabtree would take it, and knowing that, it's certainly not all genuine. Again, he regularly does similar stuff to guys who make a play on him (though obviously when the receivers actually make the play, they're not running away from him like Crabtree was).
 
2014-01-24 04:47:41 PM

Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?


That's a stupid thing to ask. Every single one of those hockey players were white. You're stupid.
 
2014-01-24 04:48:04 PM

IAmRight: Odd Bird: If I recall that scene correctly, Sherman doesn't appear to be saying "hell of a game".

See, that's the funny thing about racism.

Sherman was mic'd up. The audio played. He literally said "Hell of a game. Hell of a game." And that's all.


I don't know where you get the racism angle, but you are correct about what Sherman said.  My mistake.
 
2014-01-24 04:49:26 PM

simkatu: Clarity?


Well, Crabtree made a 20-yard catch once and he congratulated him on it because it's not easy to even get those.

Crabtree, however, has never had a play of near the significance of that tip on the Seahawks. He has, in fact, never scored in nine games against Seattle in his career. He has never posted a 100-yard game against them.
 
2014-01-24 04:50:17 PM

AeAe: blatz514: You can't spell THUG without HUG!

You can't spell SLAUGTHER without LAUGHTER!


And some people just can't spell "slaughter."
 
2014-01-24 04:50:41 PM

a particular individual: Well, to be fair:

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Heh, I actually smoked out with Krayzie, Layzie, and Bizzy about 6 years ago in college. They played a concert at SMU (yea, one of the whitest campuses in the USA) and the guy who set it up was one of our friends and we talked him into getting us in their hotel rooms to meet them.

They're very smart and articulate. Their manager was off his rocker, but it was cool listening to them debate shiat like politics and social issues. They also liked how a couple white boys brought some herb that actually impressed them (memory's fuzzy, but I think it was Orange Kush).
 
2014-01-24 04:50:49 PM

MoeSzyslak: How many hundreds of articles referred to Richie Incognito as a thug? Google search it. This is just more race baiting bullshiat. Can we please get over this any and all criticism of a black person must be rooted in racism nonsense?


Are you honestly telling me that if a white guy gets animated on TV, talks a little trash, but makes no threats, makes no offensive or personal comments, offers nothing in the way of inappropriate behavior or escalation, that he would be called a thug?  This is crap.  In many contexts, thug is definitely not a race neutral word, and when applied to Sherman's action, it was definitely racially motivated.

I love what Sherman did.  He brought some sincere emotion to the interview that reflected what was goin on in the game.  Nothing he said was even remotely out of bounds in terms of trash talk.  If it was a marketing\branding move, it was brilliant.
 
2014-01-24 04:51:12 PM

scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

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motherf*cking THIS!
 
2014-01-24 04:52:30 PM

bulldg4life: On a side note, I really really want to know how involved Sherman was in the filming and release of the headphone commercial where the reporter says something about thugs. Talk about incredibly awesome timing.

I really don't know how much he could've planned it, but he has an extremely vocal/public interview where he probably knew he would get attacked for it. I'm not sure if you could predict how much "thug" would get thrown around this week.

But, goddamn they lucked out with the release of that commercial.


The "thug" line could have been dubbed without altering anything else in the ad.
 
2014-01-24 04:52:37 PM
Ooh, tough one, subby! I'm going to go with "both" and "both".
 
2014-01-24 04:52:45 PM

CalvinMorallis: Interesting read, but methinks the article cherry-picked it's quotes.  I'm sure that within 15 minutes or so, I could find a bunch "Leave Sherman Alone!" quotes and a lot of "Bieber's the devil!" ones, and write the complete opposite article.


Pretty much this. You can easily spin it anyway you want by cherrypicking facts then projecting presumed motives.

For example Bieber is an immigrant, Sherman is an American. We can say that the media is giving immigrants special treatment, and calling Americans thugs.

It's 100% as factually true as the cherries in the article. Also every bit as meaningless, whiny, and irrelevant.
 
2014-01-24 04:53:39 PM
He's an athlete, that gpa is handed out.
 
2014-01-24 04:53:57 PM
 
2014-01-24 04:54:17 PM

Odd Bird: I don't know where you get the racism angle


Well, Sherman writes for MMQB. He said what he said to Crabtree was "good game".

Many, many people (only a few on Fark) responded with things along the line of "there's no WAY that's what he said," despite the fact that every single time Sherman's recounted something he said in the game, the audio comes out later, and he said almost exactly what he says he said.

Why do so many people refuse to believe someone who consistently tells the truth, is open and honest, and doesn't hide behind tired cliches, simply because of how they looked when they said something?
 
2014-01-24 04:54:55 PM

MycroftHolmes: Are you honestly telling me that if a white guy gets animated on TV, talks a little trash, but makes no threats, makes no offensive or personal comments, offers nothing in the way of inappropriate behavior or escalation, that he would be called a thug?  This is crap.


And just to illustrate, sometimes it takes a white celebrity acting a fool to show how ridiculous the usual comments are when a black celebrity does the same.

Read from bottom to top.


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2014-01-24 04:55:02 PM

MycroftHolmes: if a white guy gets animated on TV, talks a little trash, but makes no threats, makes no offensive or personal comments, offers nothing in the way of inappropriate behavior or escalation, that he would be called a thug?


I can't find any examples of a white guy but here's an animated white girl who is clearly called a thug.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXGYLAfUER0
 
2014-01-24 04:55:38 PM
Let's keep Sherman and get rid of Bieber and Seahawks fans.
 
2014-01-24 04:56:17 PM

IAmRight: keypusher: In your post, I guess, because I've never seen anyone else claim he was.

Most of the media doesn't mock him enough for being a b*tch with his sorry claims after the game and then on Twitter.

The best know when they failed and use it to get better. Sorry players like Crabtree fail and then say "yeah, but it's okay."

lennavan: But you're insane if you don't think that ass slap and "hell of a game" wasn't shoving it in his face.

I think it could've been, in part, genuine. But I also know he's smart enough to know how Crabtree would take it, and knowing that, it's certainly not all genuine. Again, he regularly does similar stuff to guys who make a play on him (though obviously when the receivers actually make the play, they're not running away from him like Crabtree was).


You mean like sarcastically clapping in Roddy White's face after White caught a TD against him? I fully agree that there are racial undertones to the chatter about Sherman, but that doesn't take away from the fact that he's an asshole who will try to show up opponents. Also, the little thing between him and Crabtree was on-going. No way he genuinely wanted to congratulate him in that moment. That was all for show.
 
2014-01-24 04:56:32 PM

Best Princess Celestia: He's an athlete, that gpa is handed out.I'm not as good an athlete as he is AND I'm a worse student. I'm also poorer and stupider, and I'm bitter about his success.


FTFY
 
2014-01-24 04:57:26 PM

IAmRight: Why do so many people refuse to believe someone who consistently tells the truth, is open and honest, and doesn't hide behind tired cliches, simply because of how they looked when they said something?


Because they were 49ers fans.  You gotta admit, you have your own blinders on pretty hard right now:

IAmRight: they're not running away from him like Crabtree was


I love that you phrased this "running away from him."
 
2014-01-24 04:58:12 PM

lennavan: Serious Black: My swim coaches always made sure to impress on every swimmer on their team the need to congratulate the other swimmers in their heat for a good race no matter what. If they touched me out, I was still supposed to tell them good race. If I touched them out, I was still supposed to tell them good race. If they went way slower than their seed time, I was still supposed to tell them good race. The one time that I remember failing to shake hands with the fellow swimmers in my heat and showed poor sportsmanship, the very first thing my coaches told me was that I was a terrible sport for not doing so.

Say you're doing the 4 person relay and you swim 3rd.  This would be like your leg starts out neck and neck and you smoke the kid so bad the anchor doesn't stand a chance of ever catching up, so right after you touch the wall, you say "good race" to the kid you just smoked.

I get sportsmanship.  Rugby has you all beat - the home team takes the visiting team out drinking at the team bar.  But again, you're insane if you think Sherman was doing that to be a nice guy.


I'd wait until the race was over, but yes, I absolutely said good race to the members of a relay, even if we smoked them or they smoked us. I don't recall it happening in a relay, but I'm positive in my dual meets that I smoked a lot of people and would have several seconds (sometimes minutes in longer races) of waiting for the other competitors to finish. I know there were also races where I got smoked and they had to wait for me to finish. We would still shake hands and tell each other good race.
 
2014-01-24 04:58:45 PM
You believe a football player's GPA is legit?


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2014-01-24 04:59:40 PM

OnlyM3: You believe a football player's GPA is legit?


letmelaughharder.jpg



Life isn't a "Revenge of the Nerds" movie, Reginald.
 
2014-01-24 05:00:01 PM

Serious Black: lennavan: Serious Black: My swim coaches always made sure to impress on every swimmer on their team the need to congratulate the other swimmers in their heat for a good race no matter what. If they touched me out, I was still supposed to tell them good race. If I touched them out, I was still supposed to tell them good race. If they went way slower than their seed time, I was still supposed to tell them good race. The one time that I remember failing to shake hands with the fellow swimmers in my heat and showed poor sportsmanship, the very first thing my coaches told me was that I was a terrible sport for not doing so.

Say you're doing the 4 person relay and you swim 3rd.  This would be like your leg starts out neck and neck and you smoke the kid so bad the anchor doesn't stand a chance of ever catching up, so right after you touch the wall, you say "good race" to the kid you just smoked.

I get sportsmanship.  Rugby has you all beat - the home team takes the visiting team out drinking at the team bar.  But again, you're insane if you think Sherman was doing that to be a nice guy.

I'd wait until the race was over, but yes, I absolutely said good race to the members of a relay, even if we smoked them or they smoked us. I don't recall it happening in a relay, but I'm positive in my dual meets that I smoked a lot of people and would have several seconds (sometimes minutes in longer races) of waiting for the other competitors to finish. I know there were also races where I got smoked and they had to wait for me to finish. We would still shake hands and tell each other good race.


Okay, so we have established that you would have meant it earnestly.  Sherman didn't.  You're insane.
 
2014-01-24 05:00:06 PM
What's at stake here?:

1. A professional athlete being unsportsmanlike. Dick move? Sure. Set a bad example for others? Sure. Crime committed? No. Were lives at risk? No.

2. Professional "entertainer" street races with a BAC of 0.08%. Dick move? Yes. Set a bad example for others? Yes. Crime committed? Yes. Were lives at risk? Yes.

Unsportsmanlike like conduct and impaired driving aren't comparable in any way. The only salient facts in this story are highlighted above. No one has ever been killed or critically injured by trash talking. In the U.S. alone 10,288 people were killed in 2010 because of impaired driving (source). If you think the bigger villain in this is Sherman you're f'ing retarded.
 
2014-01-24 05:00:22 PM

OnlyM3: You believe a football player's GPA is legit?


letmelaughharder.jpg


You think a football player can't have a legitimate GPA just because he is a football player?
 
2014-01-24 05:00:43 PM

Lorelle: "The only reason [being called a thug] bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling someone the n-word nowadays," Sherman said.

Unfortunately, he's right.


Is that really what everyone is implying when they talk about Putin and his "thug cronies" when talking about cost overruns at Sochi? Black people?
 
2014-01-24 05:01:05 PM

lennavan: You gotta admit, you have your own blinders on pretty hard right now:


I'm not saying it was a LARGE part of why he did it. =)

Maybe 5%.

DROxINxTHExWIND: You mean like sarcastically clapping in Roddy White's face after White caught a TD against him?


Eh, Roddy White's 3x the b*tch Crabtree is.
 
2014-01-24 05:02:10 PM

snowshovel: Is that really what everyone is implying when they talk about Putin and his "thug cronies" when talking about cost overruns at Sochi? Black people?


Stop being dense.
 
2014-01-24 05:02:57 PM

snowshovel: Lorelle: "The only reason [being called a thug] bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling someone the n-word nowadays," Sherman said.

Unfortunately, he's right.

Is that really what everyone is implying when they talk about Putin and his "thug cronies" when talking about cost overruns at Sochi? Black people?


And obviously "spook" isn't a racist term because that's what we call CIA spys.
 
2014-01-24 05:03:03 PM

snowshovel: Lorelle: "The only reason [being called a thug] bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling someone the n-word nowadays," Sherman said.

Unfortunately, he's right.

Is that really what everyone is implying when they talk about Putin and his "thug cronies" when talking about cost overruns at Sochi? Black people?


You do realize that words can be used differently in different contexts and mean different things, right?
 
2014-01-24 05:04:32 PM

Misconduc: Don't say "Thug" around black people, apparently its the new "N word" these days.


This.

I see Bieber more as a thug wannabe and Sherman as immature. But to me thug represents destructive urban culture (as it always has) and not a comment on race. But now everyone infers racism, misogyny, or discrimination in every word.

Call it out for what it is.

/Like "slut"
 
2014-01-24 05:04:39 PM

Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?


Of course not.  Hockey thugs are called "goons" or "enforcers", and the sport is mostly white, so it's all okay there.

Sherman was right.  People were quick to jump on the "thug" line and call him "dangerous".  For what?  Because he was saying what he said in the presence of lilly-white Erin Andrews?  So Fox and all the others decide to "white-knight" her and save her from the dangerous Stanford grad?

BTW, Erin Andrews was jacked up about Sherman herself, and loved his spontaneous reaction:   http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/2014/01/23/erin-andrews-on-richard - sherman-interview-it-was-awesome/

But Bieber, spits on people, drives drunk and racing a sports car in a neighbourhood, getting into random scuffles with paparazzi,  eggs neighbour's homes, is a "misguided" guy.  WTF ever, Bigots.

Sherman was right; people are using the "thug" term to cover what they really want to say.
 
2014-01-24 05:05:40 PM

RidersOfLohan: one wasn't legally drunk

one took classes on the special atheltes only class list at a shcool that grades pass/fail


Stanford doesn't give breaks to student athlete's  nor do they have athlete only type classes which is why Tiger Woods didn't graduate.
 
2014-01-24 05:05:42 PM

organizmx: Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?

That's a stupid thing to ask. Every single one of those hockey players were white. You're stupid.


The white North Americans in that brawl were just playing "old time hockey" and "honoring The Code™."

The white Europeans in that brawl were being "enigmatic" and "gutless."

Basically what it boils down to is that there are two sets of rules in North American sports: One for white, English-speaking North Americans, and one for everyone else. Race certainly plays a part for sure, but a lot of it is just "otherness" of any stripe.

It's the same reason why in baseball, a "scrappy" white guy who shows in-your-face emotion on the field has "intangibles" and is "gritty," while a Latino who does the same thing is a "showboater," or a "troublemaker."
 
2014-01-24 05:06:55 PM

TotallyHeadless: Misconduc: Don't say "Thug" around black people, apparently its the new "N word" these days.

This.

I see Bieber more as a thug wannabe and Sherman as immature. But to me thug represents destructive urban culture (as it always has) and not a comment on race. But now everyone infers racism, misogyny, or discrimination in every word.

Call it out for what it is.

/Like "slut"


Clerks 2: Porchmonkeys.
 
2014-01-24 05:08:41 PM

sigdiamond2000: organizmx: Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?

That's a stupid thing to ask. Every single one of those hockey players were white. You're stupid.

The white North Americans in that brawl were just playing "old time hockey" and "honoring The Code™."

The white Europeans in that brawl were being "enigmatic" and "gutless."

Basically what it boils down to is that there are two sets of rules in North American sports: One for white, English-speaking North Americans, and one for everyone else. Race certainly plays a part for sure, but a lot of it is just "otherness" of any stripe.

It's the same reason why in baseball, a "scrappy" white guy who shows in-your-face emotion on the field has "intangibles" and is "gritty," while a Latino who does the same thing is a "showboater," or a "troublemaker."


Or he's a grease-ball Italian.
 
2014-01-24 05:08:52 PM
A good piece on it. Link
 
2014-01-24 05:08:55 PM
Holy shiat the world has gone mad WHO farkING CARES
 
2014-01-24 05:09:34 PM

LordJiro: Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?

I think 'being a hockey player' implies 'thug'. I mean hell, who'd watch hockey if they DIDN'T beat the snot out of each other?


I know a hockey fan who doesn't like fights.  But she's pretty unusual.
 
2014-01-24 05:10:06 PM
Glad to say I respect no celebrity enough to be upset when they do something stupid.

But if I did, I sure as hell would respect the black football player who graduated from an academically-tough school over the puck-ass white douchebag Canadian druggie.
 
2014-01-24 05:10:58 PM
Awesome. Almost six days later and we still have multiple 3 digit post threads daily.
 
2014-01-24 05:13:13 PM

stappawho: Awesome. Almost six days later and we still have multiple 3 digit post threads daily.


There's a reason he's set to make 10x his football income in endorsements and is the only defensive player in the top 15 of jersey sales (BEFORE this).
 
2014-01-24 05:14:34 PM

Mi-5: Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?

Of course not.  Hockey thugs are called "goons" or "enforcers", and the sport is mostly white, so it's all okay there.

Sherman was right.  People were quick to jump on the "thug" line and call him "dangerous".  For what?  Because he was saying what he said in the presence of lilly-white Erin Andrews?  So Fox and all the others decide to "white-knight" her and save her from the dangerous Stanford grad?

BTW, Erin Andrews was jacked up about Sherman herself, and loved his spontaneous reaction:   http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/2014/01/23/erin-andrews-on-richard - sherman-interview-it-was-awesome/

But Bieber, spits on people, drives drunk and racing a sports car in a neighbourhood, getting into random scuffles with paparazzi,  eggs neighbour's homes, is a "misguided" guy.  WTF ever, Bigots.

Sherman was right; people are using the "thug" term to cover what they really want to say.


Where is this bullshiat meme that Bieber is getting a pass coming from?

I haven't read anything good about Bieber in years, except when he was nice to some girl with cancer.  He's mocked constantly, and as far as I can tell deservedly so (viz the Anne Frank remark).

But now because a black guy acted like a jerk on national television, we have to pretend that Bieber is being treated like a little angel.   Screw them both.
 
2014-01-24 05:15:34 PM

ciberido: LordJiro: Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?

I think 'being a hockey player' implies 'thug'. I mean hell, who'd watch hockey if they DIDN'T beat the snot out of each other?

I know a hockey fan who doesn't like fights.  But she's pretty unusual.


The next time an NBA player goes into the stands, he should slip on an NHL jersey first. Less of a fine, probably.
 
2014-01-24 05:16:26 PM
Oh my goodness...are we thinking and saying the wrong things?

Please, terminally above-it-all, thoughtful bloggers of the world...set us straight!

You've got a website, so...you must be gifted with wisdom far above the rest.
 
2014-01-24 05:17:02 PM

IAmRight: stappawho: Awesome. Almost six days later and we still have multiple 3 digit post threads daily.

There's a reason he's set to make 10x his football income in endorsements and is the only defensive player in the top 15 of jersey sales (BEFORE this).


Because he's really farking good.
 
2014-01-24 05:17:25 PM

a particular individual: Well, to be fair:

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I think this is a part of the problem. Unfortunately, for many white Amerians, their biggest exposure to "black culture" is hip-hop and rap music. Yes, there is plenty of rap and hip hop that is not thug-oriented, but even much of that still has an aggressive edge and the most popular rap/hip hop (especially among white peopole, it seems) is of the variety that glorifies thuggism/pimpin'/etc. Obviously, this type of music doesn't represent "black culture" (assuming there is in fact a single, defined black culture) any more that Duck Dynasty represents white culture. I do agree the word "thug" is used in a sense as code for the N-word, but there's a huge difference between the two words and thug is not always a codeword. Having said that, Sherman made an arse of himself. He may or may not actually be one; but we'll likely never really know and the world will likely remember him as one.
 
2014-01-24 05:17:34 PM
All of the Seahawks are paroled thugs and they play the game of football as if the Massa of the Plantation will beat their sweethearts, wives and children if they don't cripple their opponents's bodies. Never in the history of the Game has one team gotten away with more penalties un-called than Seattle, leading to even pro announcers in the booth to gasp in astonishment. And wonder - out loud - how the Seahawks paid off officials to get away with what they do.

But then, Seattle is a thug city filled with water head thieves, so what can expect?
 
2014-01-24 05:18:29 PM

kronicfeld: Self-aggrandizes, denigrates his opponent. So jackhole behavior.


You don't get to be a successful professional athlete without being unusually competitive and/or aggressive.  I'm not saying Sherman was classy, but he was jacked up on major adrenaline and had just had a major accomplishment.  His emotions couldn't have been perfectly controlled.

Besides, even if his words were indicative of assholishness, he still didn't break the law or endanger anyone's lives or property.  Bieber did.  What Bieber did was way worse.
 
2014-01-24 05:19:12 PM

little Jeff: "The gist: people are writing differently about Bieber and Sherman because of the color of their skin."

If, in fact, people are treating them differently you would have to ask them why rather than just assume it's racism.


That's a great idea.  In fact, let's take it one step further.  Next time someone's on trial for murder, just ask them, "Did you intend to murder this person"?  If they say no, then reduce the charges to negligent homicide.  After all, the only way to know what a person's motives are is to ask them!

Alternatively, Jay Smooth has another method.
 
2014-01-24 05:25:17 PM
They are both asswipes in my book.
 
2014-01-24 05:25:43 PM

a particular individual: kronicfeld: denigrates

You mean denubianates.


media.247sports.com

What's a "denubiante"?
 
2014-01-24 05:26:06 PM

lennavan: Because he's really farking good.


Sadly, no - that doesn't work for most non-fantasy-football guys.

He was one of the best as a rookie. He was one of the best last year and didn't make the Pro Bowl despite leading the league in interceptions and passes deflected (and passer rating against). He was an All-Pro because people within the league vote on that; fans vote on Pro Bowlers.

He's been the best in the league since he's been in it and still people are talking about this being his first impression.
 
2014-01-24 05:26:29 PM

Clemkadidlefark: All of the Seahawks are paroled thugs and they play the game of football as if the Massa of the Plantation will beat their sweethearts, wives and children if they don't cripple their opponents's bodies. Never in the history of the Game has one team gotten away with more penalties un-called than Seattle, leading to even pro announcers in the booth to gasp in astonishment. And wonder - out loud - how the Seahawks paid off officials to get away with what they do.

But then, Seattle is a thug city filled with water head thieves, so what can expect?


FWIW, not all Denver fans are racist idiots.
/not a denver fan
 
2014-01-24 05:27:25 PM
I also notice there's a description of what Bieber did, and no description of what Sherman did. I missed what the latter did exactly. Why is Bieber's behavior being rehashed over and over again in the media and not Sherman's?

Or maybe I missed it because I don't follow sports. No. I don't follow Bieber either and I can't seem to escape news of him.
 
2014-01-24 05:28:33 PM
MycroftHolmes

>>> OnlyM3: You believe a football player's GPA is legit?
>>> letmelaughharder.jpg

You think a football player can't have a legitimate GPA just because he is a football player?

Impossible? no. I also can't say it's impossible the Earth has been visited by space aliens.

But which is FAR more likely, a 3.9 football player or another example of a cheat for grades? The numbers say the latter.
 
2014-01-24 05:31:31 PM
Kam Chancellor put a major hurting on Vernon Davis again. He's made a habit of treating that guy like his abused biatch.

Richard Sherman says a few mean things.

So yes, fark the Biebs.
 
2014-01-24 05:31:58 PM

ObscureNameHere: Not a 'Biebs' fan, but is less than 0.08% BAC actually 'drunk'?


If I was drag racing a rented Italian sports car, I'd want to be stone cold sober.
 
2014-01-24 05:33:20 PM

OnlyM3: MycroftHolmes

>>> OnlyM3: You believe a football player's GPA is legit?
>>> letmelaughharder.jpg

You think a football player can't have a legitimate GPA just because he is a football player?
Impossible? no. I also can't say it's impossible the Earth has been visited by space aliens.

But which is FAR more likely, a 3.9 football player or another example of a cheat for grades? The numbers say the latter.


So, if I understand correctly, absent any supporting information, you assume that a person with a recorded 3.9 GPA likely cheated because he is a football player, even though all accounts of him in interviews describe him as articulate and intelligient.  I am guessing that you are therefore somehow supporting the idea that a guy who merely needs a passing GPA to play would not only cheat, but would also do so in a manner that would give him a 3.9 GPA, which would certainly draw more scrutiny than a very average GPA.

Also, I would like to see your substantiation for the idea that the numbers support that most college football players cheat.
 
2014-01-24 05:35:22 PM

OnlyM3: another example of a cheat for grades? The numbers say the latter.


If they're going to cheat to give better grades, they're not giving 'em damn 3.9s. Cs get degrees; there's no need to give away damn near perfect grades.
 
2014-01-24 05:35:53 PM
Also majored in communications:
bigotito.net76.net
 
2014-01-24 05:42:47 PM

Baelz: Lets put them on an island with only enough food for one to survive, and make it a reality TV show.


I would totally watch that.
 
2014-01-24 05:48:49 PM

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Baelz: Lets put them on an island with only enough food for one to survive, and make it a reality TV show.

I would totally watch that.


Let's just save everyone the time and kill Biebs.

5'7" 143 lb pop star vs 6'3" 194 lb professional athlete.
 
2014-01-24 05:50:35 PM

lennavan: Serious Black: lennavan: Serious Black: My swim coaches always made sure to impress on every swimmer on their team the need to congratulate the other swimmers in their heat for a good race no matter what. If they touched me out, I was still supposed to tell them good race. If I touched them out, I was still supposed to tell them good race. If they went way slower than their seed time, I was still supposed to tell them good race. The one time that I remember failing to shake hands with the fellow swimmers in my heat and showed poor sportsmanship, the very first thing my coaches told me was that I was a terrible sport for not doing so.

Say you're doing the 4 person relay and you swim 3rd.  This would be like your leg starts out neck and neck and you smoke the kid so bad the anchor doesn't stand a chance of ever catching up, so right after you touch the wall, you say "good race" to the kid you just smoked.

I get sportsmanship.  Rugby has you all beat - the home team takes the visiting team out drinking at the team bar.  But again, you're insane if you think Sherman was doing that to be a nice guy.

I'd wait until the race was over, but yes, I absolutely said good race to the members of a relay, even if we smoked them or they smoked us. I don't recall it happening in a relay, but I'm positive in my dual meets that I smoked a lot of people and would have several seconds (sometimes minutes in longer races) of waiting for the other competitors to finish. I know there were also races where I got smoked and they had to wait for me to finish. We would still shake hands and tell each other good race.

Okay, so we have established that you would have meant it earnestly.  Sherman didn't.  You're insane.



Wow, you've put a lot of effort into getting this point across.  What would happen to your world if you were wrong about this?  Why the fight?
 
2014-01-24 05:51:50 PM

CalvinMorallis: Interesting read, but methinks the article cherry-picked it's quotes.  I'm sure that within 15 minutes or so, I could find a bunch "Leave Sherman Alone!" quotes and a lot of "Bieber's the devil!" ones, and write the complete opposite article.


Let me know if you need any extra "Bieber's the devil!" quotes.
 
2014-01-24 05:54:45 PM

Lorelle: "The only reason [being called a thug] bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling someone the n-word nowadays," Sherman said.

Unfortunately, he's right.


That's bullshiat.  I call anyone that acts like a thug a thug.  Including all the races of the rainbow.

Sometimes, a spade is just a spade.  And sometimes, it's time to get the fark over your "persecution complex".  This goes double for anyone making a couple million a year to throw a ball.
 
2014-01-24 05:55:08 PM
How difficult is it to graduate from ANY college with a 3.90 GPA nowadays, if you're a football star?  That's serious question.  Isn't that GPA part of the signing package, along with a car, an apartment, and a harem of professional girls?
 
2014-01-24 05:58:49 PM

Cagey B: Paying players to intentionally injure other players? Whatevs man. JEEZ WHY ARE YOU ALL SO UPSET?

Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

Bullying the shiat out of teammates, up to and including racial slurs and death threats? WARRIOR CULTURE WHY ARE YOU SUCH A PUSSY.

Talking some shiat about a receiver you just outperformed on your way to the Super Bowl? OH GOD WORSE THAN HITLER.


Triple this!
 
2014-01-24 05:59:57 PM

The Southern Dandy: How difficult is it to graduate from ANY college with a 3.90 GPA nowadays, if you're a football star?  That's serious question.  Isn't that GPA part of the signing package, along with a car, an apartment, and a harem of professional girls?


Some schools more than others. I believe Stanford's graduation rate for student athletes is in the 90% neighborhood. I suppose that's some combination of their selectivity, educational resources, and enabling (not necessarily in that order).
 
2014-01-24 06:00:05 PM

The Southern Dandy: How difficult is it to graduate from ANY college with a 3.90 GPA nowadays, if you're a football star?


Again, just because you're too stupid to be able to achieve doesn't mean you have to degrade others.

And if a university is going to cheat the system to allow you to play football, they cheat so you can be eligible, not to give you a damn 3.9, graduate, and then get into grad school.
 
2014-01-24 06:00:19 PM
Ones a vacuous chunk of scrawny-assed meat who is an example of all that is inconsequential in the entertainment industry and the other is a football player.  Neither are of any value to society at large.

BTW, not to give anything to that tard Beeb, but I could sleep through the classes at Stanfrod and get a 3.90
 
2014-01-24 06:01:06 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: What I don't understand is why people don't think Sherman was just talking tough for the next opponent in the Super Bowl. I think it was probably more about appearing thuggish towards the next set of receivers than it was about the last set of receivers.

Andrews: "Richard, let me ask you about the final play. Take me through it."
Sherman: "Well, I'm the best corner in the game. When you try me with a sorry receiver like Crabtree, that's the result you're going to get. Don't you ever talk about me."
Andrews: "Who was talking about you?"
Sherman: "Crabtree. Don't you open your mouth about the best. Or I'm ma shut it for you real quick. L.O.B (Legion of boom, the nickname of the Seahawks secondary)."
Andrews: "Alright, before ... Well, Joe, back over to you."

I didn't see it happen--I'd turned off the game after the Bowman debacle. But it reads like he was just posing for the next opponent.


!

Those are all the exclamation marks missing from that transcript.
 
2014-01-24 06:01:18 PM

Kahabut: That's bullshiat.  I call anyone that acts like a thug a thug.


"I am everyone"

Quit being such a thug, you self-important f*cking twat.
 
2014-01-24 06:01:55 PM
For the last time. Canadians are not saying aboot. They're saying aboat. They've been saying it like that all these yerrs.
 
2014-01-24 06:02:53 PM
From 2011 and not the whole story, but this gives an idea of Stanford's graduation rate for student athletes:

http://news.stanford.edu/thedish/?p=15439">http://news.stanford.edu/ thedish/?p=15439
 
2014-01-24 06:05:48 PM
Given that neither is a constructive member of society nor wishes to be, I choose to despise both of them.
 
2014-01-24 06:06:12 PM

IAmRight: Kahabut: That's bullshiat.  I call anyone that acts like a thug a thug.

"I am everyone"

Quit being such a thug, you self-important f*cking twat.


I'm sorry, does my non-conformity to the greater media lies and misrepresentation present a conflicting world view for you?

Or are you just an asshole?  (another phrase often used to describe people of all colors)
 
2014-01-24 06:08:03 PM

Kahabut: Lorelle: "The only reason [being called a thug] bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling someone the n-word nowadays," Sherman said.

Unfortunately, he's right.

That's bullshiat.  I call anyone that acts like a thug a thug.  Including all the races of the rainbow.

Sometimes, a spade is just a spade.  And sometimes, it's time to get the fark over your "persecution complex".  This goes double for anyone making a couple million a year to throw a ball.


OK, so in what way was Sherman acting like a thug?  His comments contained no threats, no offensive remarks, no personal remarks, no allusions to illegal activities.  Yet, people are calling him a thug.  What is your explanation for this characterization?
 
2014-01-24 06:08:11 PM
Can we shoot them both and be done with it?
 
2014-01-24 06:12:21 PM
I can't be bothered to give a shiat about either of them.
 
2014-01-24 06:12:48 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: I can't be bothered to give a shiat about either of them.


Thanks for posting.
 
2014-01-24 06:13:30 PM

BolshyGreatYarblocks: Given that neither is a constructive member of society nor wishes to be, I choose to despise both of them.


You sure about that?

Do a little research next time. You 'might' not come off as an ignorant jackass.
 
2014-01-24 06:13:36 PM

Kahabut: Lorelle: "The only reason [being called a thug] bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling someone the n-word nowadays," Sherman said.

Unfortunately, he's right.

That's bullshiat.  I call anyone that acts like a thug a thug.  Including all the races of the rainbow.

Sometimes, a spade is just a spade.  And sometimes, it's time to get the fark over your "persecution complex".  This goes double for anyone making a couple million a year to throw a ball.



funny - how many will catch this...?
 
2014-01-24 06:15:11 PM

Kahabut: I'm sorry, does my non-conformity to the greater media lies and misrepresentation present a conflicting world view for you?


No, I don't really care. I'm just pointing out that the reason people are calling him a thug is because he made things about himself in a postgame interview. You decided that your personal take was representative of everyone else's take.

You're saying that there is no such thing as people using the word "thug" as a code word to hide behind when they want to say "n*gger" and they know that that's unacceptable, simply because you, personally, don't use it that way. That's foolish and shows an extreme level of ignorance about the media and the world as a whole.
 
2014-01-24 06:16:17 PM

Misconduc: Don't say "Thug" around black people, apparently its the new "N word" these days.


It's been the new N-word for some time. It's just that people are being called on it, now.

/ And yeah... don't do that. It makes you an asshole.
 
2014-01-24 06:21:08 PM

Prof. Ann Marion: Kahabut: Lorelle: "The only reason [being called a thug] bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling someone the n-word nowadays," Sherman said.

Unfortunately, he's right.

That's bullshiat.  I call anyone that acts like a thug a thug.  Including all the races of the rainbow.

Sometimes, a spade is just a spade.  And sometimes, it's time to get the fark over your "persecution complex".  This goes double for anyone making a couple million a year to throw a ball.


funny - how many will catch this...?


Or this.  Surprised he got a bite, actually.
 
2014-01-24 06:24:30 PM

lennavan: scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

I can't think of a nicer, more genuine time to tell someone "hell of a game" than just after you just beat him 1 on 1 killing his chances but with time still on the clock.  Does it make any sense in your head how Sherman went from kind gentleman shaking his hand and saying "hell of a game" to being an adrenaline jacked up guy talking smack in the interview?

Hell of an analysis you have there.  Hell of an analysis.


Not just that but to further deflate that shiatty defense of his unprofessional conduct "derp he's full of heart and passion derp" and being right after winning, the later interview after he's had even more time to cool off and get over himself, he's still picking at crabtree with his "mediocre. Mediocre. Meeediiiocre." farking childish. He's got some mad deep butthurt about crab tree and that is clear. Anyone who dismisses his clearly antagonistic behavior, and tries to baww and say "oh thug is just an accepted way of saying attractive and successful African american" you're reaching. Deep between your cheeks for that.

Describe to me a situation where anyone of any race could shout that at someone and not be looking for a fight.
 
2014-01-24 06:26:32 PM

IAmRight: The Southern Dandy: How difficult is it to graduate from ANY college with a 3.90 GPA nowadays, if you're a football star?

Again, just because you're too stupid to be able to achieve doesn't mean you have to degrade others.

And if a university is going to cheat the system to allow you to play football, they cheat so you can be eligible, not to give you a damn 3.9, graduate, and then get into grad school.


I only asked a question.  You hurt my feelings. :-(
 
2014-01-24 06:30:02 PM

Nacc: Describe to me a situation where anyone of any race could shout that at someone and not be looking for a fight.


Football game.
 
2014-01-24 06:33:51 PM

IAmRight: lennavan: Because he's really farking good.

Sadly, no - that doesn't work for most non-fantasy-football guys.

He was one of the best as a rookie. He was one of the best last year and didn't make the Pro Bowl despite leading the league in interceptions and passes deflected (and passer rating against). He was an All-Pro because people within the league vote on that; fans vote on Pro Bowlers.

He's been the best in the league since he's been in it and still people are talking about this being his first impression.


Because he plays for Seattle.  Brent Favre could come back and play for Seattle and no one would know because no one cares about Seattle.
 
2014-01-24 06:36:15 PM

Prof. Ann Marion: lennavan: Serious Black: lennavan: Serious Black: My swim coaches always made sure to impress on every swimmer on their team the need to congratulate the other swimmers in their heat for a good race no matter what. If they touched me out, I was still supposed to tell them good race. If I touched them out, I was still supposed to tell them good race. If they went way slower than their seed time, I was still supposed to tell them good race. The one time that I remember failing to shake hands with the fellow swimmers in my heat and showed poor sportsmanship, the very first thing my coaches told me was that I was a terrible sport for not doing so.

Say you're doing the 4 person relay and you swim 3rd.  This would be like your leg starts out neck and neck and you smoke the kid so bad the anchor doesn't stand a chance of ever catching up, so right after you touch the wall, you say "good race" to the kid you just smoked.

I get sportsmanship.  Rugby has you all beat - the home team takes the visiting team out drinking at the team bar.  But again, you're insane if you think Sherman was doing that to be a nice guy.

I'd wait until the race was over, but yes, I absolutely said good race to the members of a relay, even if we smoked them or they smoked us. I don't recall it happening in a relay, but I'm positive in my dual meets that I smoked a lot of people and would have several seconds (sometimes minutes in longer races) of waiting for the other competitors to finish. I know there were also races where I got smoked and they had to wait for me to finish. We would still shake hands and tell each other good race.

Okay, so we have established that you would have meant it earnestly.  Sherman didn't.  You're insane.


Wow, you've put a lot of effort into getting this point across.  What would happen to your world if you were wrong about this?  Why the fight?


My world would surely end.  What would happen if you were to agree that Sherman may not have had the most altruistic of intentions near the end of a football game?
 
2014-01-24 06:36:53 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Yeah, but his degree is in *Communications"


Anyone who can talk like he can will never be without a job.

/the system works
 
2014-01-24 06:41:09 PM

Nacc: Describe to me a situation where anyone of any race could shout that at someone and not be looking for a fight.


Any sporting event ever.
 
2014-01-24 06:42:10 PM

lennavan: Prof. Ann Marion: lennavan:

Okay, so we have established that you would have meant it earnestly.  Sherman didn't.  You're insane.


Wow, you've put a lot of effort into getting this point across.  What would happen to your world if you were wrong about this?  Why the fight?

My world would surely end.  What would happen if you were to agree that Sherman may not have had the mos ...


I would care as much as I care now, but then again I'm not the one insisting with such surety that his motivations were suspect.  Wait - are you a telepath?  I've heard thought about people like you...
 
2014-01-24 06:43:50 PM

MycroftHolmes: OnlyM3: MycroftHolmes

>>> OnlyM3: You believe a football player's GPA is legit?
>>> letmelaughharder.jpg

You think a football player can't have a legitimate GPA just because he is a football player?
Impossible? no. I also can't say it's impossible the Earth has been visited by space aliens.

But which is FAR more likely, a 3.9 football player or another example of a cheat for grades? The numbers say the latter.

So, if I understand correctly, absent any supporting information, you assume that a person with a recorded 3.9 GPA likely cheated because he is a football player, even though all accounts of him in interviews describe him as articulate and intelligient.  I am guessing that you are therefore somehow supporting the idea that a guy who merely needs a passing GPA to play would not only cheat, but would also do so in a manner that would give him a 3.9 GPA, which would certainly draw more scrutiny than a very average GPA.

Also, I would like to see your substantiation for the idea that the numbers support that most college football players cheat.


While we're asking for more data can we can get mean GPA for students in his major and the standard deviation?
 
2014-01-24 06:50:40 PM

Prof. Ann Marion: lennavan: Prof. Ann Marion: lennavan:

Okay, so we have established that you would have meant it earnestly.  Sherman didn't.  You're insane.


Wow, you've put a lot of effort into getting this point across.  What would happen to your world if you were wrong about this?  Why the fight?

My world would surely end.  What would happen if you were to agree that Sherman may not have had the mos ...

I would care as much as I care now, but then again I'm not the one insisting with such surety that his motivations were suspect.  Wait - are you a telepath?  I've heard thought about people like you...


There is an awful lot of effort here from someone who doesn't care.
 
2014-01-24 06:53:19 PM

Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?


GREATEST GAME EVER !!!!!
 
2014-01-24 06:54:04 PM
Well, you know blacks shouldn't be allowed to have money; they get all uppity and everything.  Canadians are just awfully awkward people who shouldn't be criticized for their mistakes; they're sort of like retards in that regard.
 
2014-01-24 06:54:38 PM

CalvinMorallis: Interesting read, but methinks the article cherry-picked it's quotes.  I'm sure that within 15 minutes or so, I could find a bunch "Leave Sherman Alone!" quotes and a lot of "Bieber's the devil!" ones, and write the complete opposite article.


then do it.
Or just assemble the supporting data and present the outline
 
2014-01-24 06:56:09 PM

Lorelle: "The only reason [being called a thug] bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling someone the n-word nowadays," Sherman said.

Unfortunately, he's right.


thugian
 
2014-01-24 06:56:19 PM

BolshyGreatYarblocks: Given that neither is a constructive member of society nor wishes to be, I choose to despise both of them.


Well, that's typical Farklib talk.  These HIGH ACHIEVERS are contributing millions in tax dollars to the 47% in this country and creating thousands of jobs with their hard work and you just want to tear them down.  I suppose they should go out and be community organizers.

This is what's wrong with America.  There is no respect for those who are exceptional.  You just want to tear them down to your level.

I'll pray for America.
 
2014-01-24 06:56:39 PM
I agree completely. Sherman embarrassed himself but it was one of thise "what was I thinking" moments. Bieber could have killed someone.

Sherman's response after his foolish outburst has actually made me like him.
 
2014-01-24 06:58:26 PM
I don't know squat about football but I heard this guy's response and thought he was right.  He's seem a decent guy to me.
 
2014-01-24 06:58:26 PM

OnlyM3: MycroftHolmes

>>> OnlyM3: You believe a football player's GPA is legit?
>>> letmelaughharder.jpg

You think a football player can't have a legitimate GPA just because he is a football player?
Impossible? no. I also can't say it's impossible the Earth has been visited by space aliens.

But which is FAR more likely, a 3.9 football player or another example of a cheat for grades? The numbers say the latter.


Typical.  Someone works hard to achieve in life and you just want to tear them down.

Favorited - BRIGHT RED - commie.
 
2014-01-24 07:00:35 PM

stappawho: Awesome. Almost six days later and we still have multiple 3 digit post threads daily.


And why do the stores keep selling the things that I keep buying?

This really grinds my gears.
 
2014-01-24 07:03:08 PM
/hates bieber
//hates seattle
///redskins fan
////cries into beer
 
2014-01-24 07:04:16 PM

blatz514: LineNoise: Cagey B: Naming your team after a racial slur? TRADITION PLUS MY INDIAN FRIEND CHIEF INTERNET THINKS IT'S FUNNY.

You really can't believe anything Chief Internet says these days. He's been messing around too much with the firewireater

Fixed


missed
 
2014-01-24 07:04:35 PM

Rapmaster2000: I suppose they should go out and be community organizers.


While I know you're being sarcastic, Sherman and his brother are community organizers as well.
 
2014-01-24 07:04:44 PM

MycroftHolmes: Agent Smiths Laugh: I can't be bothered to give a shiat about either of them.

Thanks for posting.


You're welcome.
 
2014-01-24 07:07:51 PM

IAmRight: Rapmaster2000: I suppose they should go out and be community organizers.

While I know you're being sarcastic, Sherman and his brother are community organizers as well.


This changes everything.  Now I know he's a thug.
 
2014-01-24 07:08:16 PM
Once again, for those of you who missed it the first time:

Stanford does NOT allow student athletes to receive preferential treatment in grading. I'm sure that your crappy college did, I know mine did, but Stanford does not.

Also, while I'm at it:

Stanford does NOT admit professional athletes to its Masters' programs just for shiats and giggles.
 
2014-01-24 07:10:16 PM
Weird thread. Two cats are being discussed. One act, a hissy fit between two football players  with some associated blather - has been the subject of about 95% of the thread, and has been discussed with great passion.
There has also been a bit of desultory, indifferent mention of the other act involved - sort of in passing - that act being driving a high powered race car around a residential area all f**ked up on drugs and booze, and resisting arrest when caught.
Nice to see that Farkers, as always, have their priorities straight.
I don't know what a thug is, but apparently it's worse than being a Bieber.
 
2014-01-24 07:12:35 PM
Anyway - real "Thugs" aren't black - they are Indians (dot).
 
2014-01-24 07:15:57 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: OnlyM3: You believe a football player's GPA is legit?


letmelaughharder.jpg


Life isn't a "Revenge of the Nerds" movie, Reginald.


His is.
 
2014-01-24 07:20:55 PM

BMulligan: Once again, for those of you who missed it the first time:

Stanford does NOT allow student athletes to receive preferential treatment in grading. I'm sure that your crappy college did, I know mine did, but Stanford does not.

Also, while I'm at it:

Stanford does NOT admit professional athletes to its Masters' programs just for shiats and giggles.


Oh, I'm sure OnlyM3 read it the first time. He just keeps ignoring anything that challenges his racist asshole beliefs. He's special that way.
 
2014-01-24 07:24:08 PM

ciberido: a particular individual: kronicfeld: denigrates

You mean denubianates.

[media.247sports.com image 400x229]

What's a "denubiante"?


It's a Fark filter joke. A certain word that begins with n and ends with r gets filtered into "nubian." So de-nigr-ate becomes...
 
2014-01-24 07:26:43 PM

Serious Black: Did anybody in the media call the Vancouver and Calgary hockey players thugs for instigating five separate fights within the first two seconds of their game this past Saturday and triggering 142 penalty minutes?


Actually, Sherman, while not in the media, said exactly that...http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/richard-sherman-t hinks-ho ckey-players-thugs-sigh-deeply-225539066--nhl.html

I get your point that many people are racist and do not judge situation fairly, but rather on the race of the people involved.  There are many racists idiots out there, we all get that.

Comparing what happened in that NHL game to Sherman acting like that doesn't make any sense.  In hockey, fighting is a part of the sport.  Most hockey fans like fighting, and do not want it banned.  There are some people trying to eliminate fighting in order to increase revenue and the fan base, but most current hockey fans enjoy a good brawl once in awhile.  You wouldn't turn on a UFC fight and act shocked and appalled when you see blood or someone getting knocked out, so why would you turn on hockey and act offended that you saw a fight?

Do most NFL fans think that the sort of chest thumping egotism that went on during that interview is part of the sport, and should be embraced?  Is that a tradition in football that maintains the spirit of the game and is greatly enjoyed by fans?  I guess talking smack is a tradition, so maybe this sort of stuff is what the fans like.

What that "interview" says, to me, is that Sherman has no respect for his sport, his opponents, or anyone but himself.  I don't know enough about Sherman to call him a thug, but classless in a sportsman sort of way...yeah, I would say that.
 
2014-01-24 07:30:42 PM

lennavan: Prof. Ann Marion: lennavan: Prof. Ann Marion: lennavan:

Okay, so we have established that you would have meant it earnestly.  Sherman didn't.  You're insane.


Wow, you've put a lot of effort into getting this point across.  What would happen to your world if you were wrong about this?  Why the fight?

My world would surely end.  What would happen if you were to agree that Sherman may not have had the mos ...

I would care as much as I care now, but then again I'm not the one insisting with such surety that his motivations were suspect.  Wait - are you a telepath?  I've heard thought about people like you...

There is an awful lot of effort here from someone who doesn't care.


No, actually it was one question to you, because I was curious about your extreme emotional investment despite evidence that there was a potential you could be wrong.  I can start to see, though, that you have a pattern for creating your own reality and then passionately defending it.  I honestly envy you, I lead my life with the question, "have I made the right decision based on the facts rather than what I belive to be true?".  It would probably be a lot easier if it were just based on "because I said so".
 
2014-01-24 07:36:17 PM

OnlyM3: Impossible? no. I also can't say it's impossible the Earth has been visited by space aliens.

But which is FAR more likely, a 3.9 football player or another example of a cheat for grades? The numbers say the latter.


I think of this whenever you post.

i1199.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-24 07:38:20 PM

a particular individual: ciberido: a particular individual: kronicfeld: denigrates

You mean denubianates.

[media.247sports.com image 400x229]

What's a "denubiante"?

It's a Fark filter joke. A certain word that begins with n and ends with r gets filtered into "nubian." So de-nigr-ate becomes...


"Denubianate" sounds like a verb meaning "to remove all the nubians." When misspelled as "denubiante," it sounds like a black debutante.
 
2014-01-24 07:39:24 PM

BMulligan: Once again, for those of you who missed it the first time:

Stanford does NOT allow student athletes to receive preferential treatment in grading. I'm sure that your crappy college did, I know mine did, but Stanford does not.

Also, while I'm at it:

Stanford does NOT admit professional athletes to its Masters' programs just for shiats and giggles.


6/10: Should have been all caps.

/and maybe shouted as your first interview response
 
2014-01-24 07:40:57 PM

lennavan: IAmRight: lennavan: Because he's really farking good.

Sadly, no - that doesn't work for most non-fantasy-football guys.

He was one of the best as a rookie. He was one of the best last year and didn't make the Pro Bowl despite leading the league in interceptions and passes deflected (and passer rating against). He was an All-Pro because people within the league vote on that; fans vote on Pro Bowlers.

He's been the best in the league since he's been in it and still people are talking about this being his first impression.

Because he plays for Seattle.  Brent Favre could come back and play for Seattle and no one would know because no one cares about Seattle.


Which is why Richard Sherman does what Richard Sherman does. U mad?

\Richard Sherman
 
2014-01-24 07:41:16 PM

Prof. Ann Marion: No, actually it was one question to you, because I was curious about your extreme emotional investment despite evidence that there was a potential you could be wrong.


I think you significantly underestimate my "extreme emotional investment."  This is life-or-death for me.  Literally.

Prof. Ann Marion: I can start to see, though, that you have a pattern for creating your own reality and then passionately defending it.


Welcome to sports.

Prof. Ann Marion: I honestly envy you, I lead my life with the question, "have I made the right decision based on the facts rather than what I belive to be true?".


I think the important thing is you have found a way to feel superior.  And really, wasn't that what your posting was all about?
 
2014-01-24 07:42:26 PM
I went past CNN... thousands of posts of people demanding the suspension/firing of the cops involved in Beaver's arrest because he wasn't legally drunk (blew under the oh-eight).

Thousands of people who don't know that their spit-daddy is underage for drinking and involved in gang criminal activity.
 
2014-01-24 07:44:57 PM
This "thug is saying the n-word" crap is annoying.  You can rightfully be outraged when someone uses the n-word.  It is offensive, though perhaps people would frown upon it more if the black community stopped using it.  However, claiming it as code for the n-word is farking bullshiat.  The word "thug" has nothing to do with race.  It's all about how you act.  I have a nephew (who I will have nothing to do with) who is a thug.  He is not black.  Did you act like a thug?  If so, shut the fark up.

Personally, I don't know what happened because I don't follow sports, so I don't know if the thug label is appropriate for his actions.
 
2014-01-24 07:46:53 PM

prjindigo: I went past CNN... thousands of posts of people demanding the suspension/firing of the cops involved in Beaver's arrest because he wasn't legally drunk (blew under the oh-eight).

Thousands of people who don't know that their spit-daddy is underage for drinking and involved in gang criminal activity.


And that you don't need to exceed the legal limit to be charged with DUI.
 
Rat
2014-01-24 07:47:24 PM
img.fark.net

™ you know, communicating
 
2014-01-24 07:48:18 PM

OgreMagi: However, claiming it as code for the n-word is farking bullshiat.


Save it for Freeperville. It's been subbing for "n------" on this site for months, at least.
 
2014-01-24 07:49:24 PM

The Southern Dandy: IAmRight: The Southern Dandy: How difficult is it to graduate from ANY college with a 3.90 GPA nowadays, if you're a football star?

Again, just because you're too stupid to be able to achieve doesn't mean you have to degrade others.

And if a university is going to cheat the system to allow you to play football, they cheat so you can be eligible, not to give you a damn 3.9, graduate, and then get into grad school.

I only asked a question.  You hurt my feelings. :-(


You were JAQing off in a public thread, you perv.
 
2014-01-24 07:51:37 PM

Rat: [img.fark.net image 333x317]

™ you know, communicating


TOO SOON
 
2014-01-24 07:54:33 PM

a particular individual: ciberido: a particular individual: kronicfeld: denigrates

You mean denubianates.

[media.247sports.com image 400x229]

What's a "denubiante"?

It's a Fark filter joke. A certain word that begins with n and ends with r gets filtered into "nubian." So de-nigr-ate becomes...


Well, at least one of us is missing a common Farkism (nsfw language), it would seem.
 
2014-01-24 07:56:13 PM

lennavan: Prof. Ann Marion: No, actually it was one question to you, because I was curious about your extreme emotional investment despite evidence that there was a potential you could be wrong.

I think you significantly underestimate my "extreme emotional investment."  This is life-or-death for me.  Literally.

Prof. Ann Marion: I can start to see, though, that you have a pattern for creating your own reality and then passionately defending it.

Welcome to sports.

Prof. Ann Marion: I honestly envy you, I lead my life with the question, "have I made the right decision based on the facts rather than what I belive to be true?".

I think the important thing is you have found a way to feel superior.  And really, wasn't that what your posting was all about?


Hm, again with the redefinition of reality.  The absolute truth in the basis for my post was wanting to know why you were so sure about your position.  Someone upthread brought up the point that at the end of the game there was a pat on the ass, a compliment and an attempt at a handshake.  You stated it was ulterior gesture.  Someone else said that they too thought it was an attempt at sportsmanship, and you asserted they were wrong.  A third gave examples of how a "good game" comment is delivered as a comparison to this event, and you said they were insane.  At no time, though, did you ever say how you found the facts to support your position, so I was/am asking you how you can manage certainty when the possibility of uncertainty exists?  It's a foreign way of thinking for me, I'm stuck with always weighing facts.
 
2014-01-24 07:56:29 PM

OgreMagi: This "thug is saying the n-word" crap is annoying.  You can rightfully be outraged when someone uses the n-word.  It is offensive, though perhaps people would frown upon it more if the black community stopped using it.  However, claiming it as code for the n-word is farking bullshiat.  The word "thug" has nothing to do with race.  It's all about how you act.  I have a nephew (who I will have nothing to do with) who is a thug.  He is not black.  Did you act like a thug?  If so, shut the fark up.

Personally, I don't know what happened because I don't follow sports, so I don't know if the thug label is appropriate for his actions.


Point.

Your head
 
2014-01-24 08:02:11 PM

RidersOfLohan: one wasn't legally drunk

one took classes on the special atheltes only class list at a shcool that grades pass/fail


1/10
 
2014-01-24 08:07:28 PM

Prof. Ann Marion: At no time, though, did you ever say how you found the facts to support your position


Well, yeah other than the multiple times that I did.  One of the guys even ended up agreeing with me to a decent degree when I supported my position.

Prof. Ann Marion: It's a foreign way of thinking for me, I'm stuck with always weighing facts.


Confirmation bias is definitely one way to weigh facts.  Had you recalled some of those other facts you wouldn't have found a way to feel superior!

Prof. Ann Marion: The absolute truth in the basis for my post was wanting to know why you were so sure about your position.


You sound concerned.
 
2014-01-24 08:11:50 PM

MycroftHolmes: Kahabut: Lorelle: "The only reason [being called a thug] bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling someone the n-word nowadays," Sherman said.

Unfortunately, he's right.

That's bullshiat.  I call anyone that acts like a thug a thug.  Including all the races of the rainbow.

Sometimes, a spade is just a spade.  And sometimes, it's time to get the fark over your "persecution complex".  This goes double for anyone making a couple million a year to throw a ball.

OK, so in what way was Sherman acting like a thug?  His comments contained no threats, no offensive remarks, no personal remarks, no allusions to illegal activities.  Yet, people are calling him a thug.  What is your explanation for this characterization?


Because it gets self righteous assholes in a tizzy.  WHICH WAS THE ENTIRE POINT.


IAmRight: Kahabut: I'm sorry, does my non-conformity to the greater media lies and misrepresentation present a conflicting world view for you?

No, I don't really care. I'm just pointing out that the reason people are calling him a thug is because he made things about himself in a postgame interview. You decided that your personal take was representative of everyone else's take.

You're saying that there is no such thing as people using the word "thug" as a code word to hide behind when they want to say "n*gger" and they know that that's unacceptable, simply because you, personally, don't use it that way. That's foolish and shows an extreme level of ignorance about the media and the world as a whole.


I'm saying I could not care any less what the media has to say about anything, as the media has been shown an infinite number of times to be entirely full of shiat.  They have a profit motive to tell you lies, make up trends and invent stories.  So they do.  It's really that simple.

Do people sometimes use euphemisms like "thug" to mean N*gger?   Probably.  Is that a "thing"?  No, it isn't.  Ignorant assholes do all kinds of stuff, doesn't mean a god damn thing.
 
2014-01-24 08:31:58 PM
truly, is this all that the racism debate is down to? cryptoracist code words that offend the professionally offended?

it reminds me of the "it's aliens" guy.

/i'm not saying you're racist, but you're racist.
 
2014-01-24 08:33:43 PM

legion_of_doo: truly, is this all that the racism debate is down to? cryptoracist code words that offend the professionally offended?

it reminds me of the "it's aliens" guy.

/i'm not saying you're racist, but you're racist.


The racism thread was back a few hours here.
 
2014-01-24 08:34:58 PM

Kahabut: IAmRight: Kahabut: That's bullshiat.  I call anyone that acts like a thug a thug.

"I am everyone"

Quit being such a thug, you self-important f*cking twat.

I'm sorry, does my non-conformity to the greater media lies and misrepresentation present a conflicting world view for you?

Or are you just an asshole?  (another phrase often used to describe people of all colors)


So, is the guy, Sherman, a thug? What is a thug?

Bieber was street racing while under the influence of booze and a variety of drugs. I'd say he, at least that night, has proven to be the bigger threat to society.
 
2014-01-24 08:45:16 PM
Car_Ramrod: 

Were you in those same classes?

were you? What was the schools response when the media found out about the classes? and the local sportswriters? and the local radio clown gary radnich? no idea? of course not.
 
2014-01-24 08:55:09 PM

Oldiron_79: Well I have no problems with throwing Bieber under the bus


Especially if it's a real bus.
 
2014-01-24 08:57:07 PM

Fista-Phobia: OnlyM3: Impossible? no. I also can't say it's impossible the Earth has been visited by space aliens.

But which is FAR more likely, a 3.9 football player or another example of a cheat for grades? The numbers say the latter.

I think of this whenever you post.

[i1199.photobucket.com image 394x1024]


Thank you so much! I heard M3's post in Khan's voice and it made me so happy!    \V/L
 
2014-01-24 09:02:04 PM
four am

blocked off residential street

0 to 60 runs

.08

LIVES IN DANGER!!! THUGGERY!

Jeezzz

whoo pee

don't care
 
2014-01-24 09:55:21 PM
Who in their right mind would call Bieber a "thug"?

And yeah, thug is starting to get un-PC. Hoodrat, hoodlum, "youth", and delinquent are better words for someone that reminds you of a gang-banger.
 
2014-01-24 10:45:51 PM
What bugs me most about the Sherman thing is that there is no room for nuance in opinions. I watched the game and saw Crabtree and Sherman act like asses on the field. I was embarrassed to have my son watch that and told him sore winners are just as bad as sore losers. He agreed that they looked like idiots. And, apparently, the ref (who penalized Sherman), Sherman (who apologized), and the NFL (who has fined Sherman) thought he acted unsportsmanlike. I don't think Sherman is a thug or that it was that big of a deal.

That said, I did not understand why Facebook was blowing up over the event. Football players act like idiots all the time. Every play involves someone being an ass and getting in someone's face. Of course, that does not make it right.

Because I did not care for Crabtree's or Sherman's behavior, and I did not think it was that big of a deal, I've been lumped in with the racist side of the argument. I'm not even sure what racism has to do with anything. It seems like a way of ignoring the real issue.

Anyway, I'm tired of how everything has to be polarized. I should probably move off the grid one of these days.
 
2014-01-24 11:01:39 PM
both?
 
2014-01-24 11:11:07 PM

bulldg4life: Richard Sherman acted inappropriately. Argue all you want that it was adrenaline fueled or totally expected right after an NFL game, but there are countless interviews with people right after NFL games on the field and they don't yell and scream and denigrate opponents. That being said, what he did was not thuggish. He is engaging, intelligent, and very funny when I've seen him give interviews where he isn't playing "Richard Sherman the talking character" persona.

He is exactly right that people use "thug" to characterize someone and it is definitely based on skin color, dreadlocks, whatever because they can't say the n-word.

Also, Justin Bieber is a goddamn idiot that is allowed to do whatever the hell he wants because he is rich and famous and a popular 20yo white pop star.

----------
I can see why people would be upset with what Sherman did. However, you can be upset with what he did without resorting to labeling him a thug or using other dog whistle words to paint a picture that is not realistic. And, you can be upset with what he did without being racist.

On the other side, I can see why people do not have a problem with what Sherman did. Personally, I just had an issue with him attacking Crabtree. Everything else was perfectly fine and I didn't really care about the situation five seconds after the interview was over.

As for the difference in coverage, it is very striking, but I am not all that surprised. And, people that don't admit race plays a part in the difference in coverage are willfully obtuse.


If what you're saying is true... 

 Then the media is hella racist and we need to fine the shiat out of every single network that was going to town on this. 

/I was nonplussed by the whole thing. Yeah, he shouldn't have done it. Yeah his coach will take care of it because he cares about the guys on his team. Yeah Crabtree was just as big of a jerk, but I doubt his coach will do anything because he seems to be okay with that kind of thing. Moving on then...
 
2014-01-24 11:13:28 PM

netweavr: BMulligan: scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

Actually, I didn't have a problem with either player's behavior. That's just football. My problem is with the guy who clotheslined Jeremy Lane on the sideline.

I still can't tell if he did it intentionally or defensively. The video looks, to me, like he's moving out of the way but too slowly, so he braces himself.


Nope. He was not at all trying to step back. He was looking right at Lane as he approached, so he had plenty of time to move back. Instead he took one step forward and lowered his shoulder, then raised it into Lane's face to maximize the hit. He then continued two more steps forward after the hit due to his own momentum which is how you can be 100% sure he was intentionally hitting Lane. He also gave Lane an "F-U" kind of look afterwards, which won't help any argument he could ever make that it was accidental.

There are two videos of the hit and the less common one (Camera is a bit further to the right so the man in front of them doesn't block the shot as much) shows all the above very clearly. Make sure you are looking at the right one.
 
2014-01-24 11:17:59 PM

MycroftHolmes: snowshovel: Lorelle: "The only reason [being called a thug] bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling someone the n-word nowadays," Sherman said.

Unfortunately, he's right.

Is that really what everyone is implying when they talk about Putin and his "thug cronies" when talking about cost overruns at Sochi? Black people?

You do realize that words can be used differently in different contexts and mean different things, right?


Yeah. Sure. But if I don't listen to urban hip hop music, how am I supposed to know that the word "thug" has been co-opted by that culture as a replacement word...while all my life I've associated the word "thug" with union thugs and mafia protection rackets. Are there really bigots out there who hate blacks with a passion but are a member of the inner city thug culture to know that that is what it means now?

And again, search for "putin thug" on google. That's where a vast majority of the recent upswing of the word "thug" was coming from before Sherman's outburst. So, unless Putin has got some crazy party dance beatz coming out soon, I really doubt people are generally using thug as a mere replacement for the big N.

And I should clarify on these points:
A) I personally don't think Sherman's outburst was worthy of a "thug" to begin with, as my definition would include some kind of physical threat. His rant was more worthy of a WWF wrestling call-out. So, that would make him more of a "heel".

B) I don't really care that much about the rant itself. Sure, I few twitter guys are going to be all awesomely manly behind their smart phones thousands of miles away with racist remarks, but I completely disagree that the word thug is now commonly used as some kind of racial replacement word. But instead is being used as a "look at me, I'm a tough guy" term, ala Putin. Which is the way Sherman came off.

C) There's very little reason to call hockey players thugs, because they already have a name for those who commit hockey thuggery: goons and enforcers. Then again, the term has been thrown around in hockey for quite some time:  http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-08-10/news/9408100006_1_bob-p r obert-general-manager-bob-pulford-blackhawks
1994 headline: "Blackhawks One Thug From Victory?"
 
2014-01-24 11:28:32 PM

super_grass: Who in their right mind would call Bieber a "thug"?

And yeah, thug is starting to get un-PC. Hoodrat, hoodlum, "youth", and delinquent are better words for someone that reminds you of a gang-banger.


I like "urban" it has that smooth hypocrisy, and a slim chance of deniability, too.
Matched with the proper conversation, it displays vivid grace notes of elitism and subtle undertones of snark, as well.
 
2014-01-24 11:47:30 PM
Ok, let's not go too far with this. Justin Bieber is not called a thug because.....he is Justin Bieber. Thugs everywhere lose all cred if Bieber is a thug.
 
2014-01-25 04:54:12 AM
Douchebag.

Lol.
 
2014-01-25 09:45:38 AM

Kahabut: MycroftHolmes: Kahabut: Lorelle: "The only reason [being called a thug] bothers me is because it seems like it's the accepted way of calling someone the n-word nowadays," Sherman said.

Unfortunately, he's right.

That's bullshiat.  I call anyone that acts like a thug a thug.  Including all the races of the rainbow.

Sometimes, a spade is just a spade.  And sometimes, it's time to get the fark over your "persecution complex".  This goes double for anyone making a couple million a year to throw a ball.

OK, so in what way was Sherman acting like a thug?  His comments contained no threats, no offensive remarks, no personal remarks, no allusions to illegal activities.  Yet, people are calling him a thug.  What is your explanation for this characterization?

Because it gets self righteous assholes in a tizzy.  WHICH WAS THE ENTIRE POINT.


IAmRight: Kahabut: I'm sorry, does my non-conformity to the greater media lies and misrepresentation present a conflicting world view for you?

No, I don't really care. I'm just pointing out that the reason people are calling him a thug is because he made things about himself in a postgame interview. You decided that your personal take was representative of everyone else's take.

You're saying that there is no such thing as people using the word "thug" as a code word to hide behind when they want to say "n*gger" and they know that that's unacceptable, simply because you, personally, don't use it that way. That's foolish and shows an extreme level of ignorance about the media and the world as a whole.

I'm saying I could not care any less what the media has to say about anything, as the media has been shown an infinite number of times to be entirely full of shiat.  They have a profit motive to tell you lies, make up trends and invent stories.  So they do.  It's really that simple.

Do people sometimes use euphemisms like "thug" to mean N*gger?   Probably.  Is that a "thing"?  No, it isn't.  Ignorant assholes do all kinds of stuff, does ...


You aren't making a lot of sense.  First, you are saying that people are calling him a thug because it provokes a reaction.  Then you are saying that there are no racial overtones to the word (though you really haven't substantiated that).  I find it curious that you think the word thug, absent of any racial overtones, would put people in a tizzy.

Unilaterally denying that 'thug' has racial overtones and is veiled racism doesn't really work when overwhelming response, from individuals as well as media groups acknowledge that it absolutely does.  Words have meanings, and you do not get to determine what they mean.  You could claim that your use of the word 'thug' meant to be racially nuetral, but we really aren't talking about you.
 
2014-01-25 10:39:36 AM
My proposed penalties...

Bieber - Jail
Sheman - Crash Davis's cliche class
 
2014-01-25 10:40:40 AM
Let the punishment fit the crime.
 
2014-01-25 10:49:07 AM
Sherman is beyond reproach!! What is this blasphemy???

ALL HAIL SHERMAN! ALL HAIL SHERMAN!
 
2014-01-25 11:42:54 AM
"Thug" is being thrown around too much. He yelled in a loud stadium after a highly emotional moment and was clearly upset. Sounded like a pro wrestling interview.  He used words, not physical violence, to express himself. He did not curse. He did not beat up the reporter and steal her lunch money. No "thug like" activity was seen.
Using the drunk teenager behaving badly as a comparison of being a thug is laughable.

Beiber. Thug. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ....
 
2014-01-25 02:15:04 PM

arentol: netweavr: BMulligan: scottydoesntknow: Based on the mic'd up video I saw yesterday, Crabtree showed the poor sportsmanship first. Sherman went up to him after the play to shake his hand and say "Hell of a game" and Crabtree shoved him away like a crying biatch.

Actually, I didn't have a problem with either player's behavior. That's just football. My problem is with the guy who clotheslined Jeremy Lane on the sideline.

I still can't tell if he did it intentionally or defensively. The video looks, to me, like he's moving out of the way but too slowly, so he braces himself.

Nope. He was not at all trying to step back. He was looking right at Lane as he approached, so he had plenty of time to move back. Instead he took one step forward and lowered his shoulder, then raised it into Lane's face to maximize the hit. He then continued two more steps forward after the hit due to his own momentum which is how you can be 100% sure he was intentionally hitting Lane. He also gave Lane an "F-U" kind of look afterwards, which won't help any argument he could ever make that it was accidental.

There are two videos of the hit and the less common one (Camera is a bit further to the right so the man in front of them doesn't block the shot as much) shows all the above very clearly. Make sure you are looking at the right one.


Is it me or did Harbough smile just after Lane got hit?
 
2014-01-25 04:41:36 PM

xtrc8u: "Thug" is being thrown around too much. He yelled in a loud stadium after a highly emotional moment and was clearly upset. Sounded like a pro wrestling interview.  He used words, not physical violence, to express himself. He did not curse. He did not beat up the reporter and steal her lunch money. No "thug like" activity was seen.
Using the drunk teenager behaving badly as a comparison of being a thug is laughable.

Beiber. Thug. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ....


img.fark.net

I'm gonna rip the eyes out of your head and piss into your dead skull! You farked with the wrong Candy Pop Singer!
 
2014-01-25 07:15:06 PM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Misconduc: Don't say "Thug" around black people, apparently its the new "N word" these days.

It's been the new N-word for some time. It's just that people are being called on it, now.

/ And yeah... don't do that. It makes you an asshole.



Yea, and you probably shouldn't say " in the hood " either.   I saw someone get all butthurt over that one too.

But they can still use " redneck "  that's not like an "N" word right??

I say close down the NAACP and BET.  I'm offended.
 
2014-01-25 07:53:13 PM
It's all just perception. They're both young men who behaved badly.  But picture this- You're in a dark alley, and you are confronted by a) a pumped up 6'3" Sherman, or b) a drunken Bieber.  Which one would you fear?  The one that looks like an effeminate 9 year old, or the monster who dominates 200-300 lb roid jockeys every week?  Sherman will get his punishment when the 'Hawks lose the Superbowl, but what can we do about Bieber?  An acquaintance posted a pic of him on Facelessbook with the caption, "If this gets 1 million "likes", we'll deport him to Canada", and if I thought there was any chance of it actually happening, I'd be all over that bandwagon.  But until then, he isn't worth any thought or effort on my part.
 
2014-01-25 08:03:23 PM
Yeah in Communications. My cat could have achieved that bullshiat degree.
 
2014-01-26 01:20:02 AM

Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: But they can still use " redneck " that's not like an "N" word right??


No, it isn't. "Redneck" is cultural; "n*gger" is based solely on the color of one's skin.

A person can make a decision about one, not the other.

/also, we're taking it back.
 
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