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(Amarillo Globe-News)   When a police officer asks you if you consent to a search of your car, you are allowed to say no...particularly when you are driving with $2 million in meth. You also don't have to talk. Especially when you tell police your plans to sell it   (amarillo.com) divider line 33
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2014-01-24 07:57:01 AM
Also, your refusal to give consent can't be used to justify a search.

*JUST*SAY*NO*.
 
2014-01-24 08:17:15 AM
let's be serious here, what the hell else are you going to do with 42 POUNDS of meth?
 
2014-01-24 08:22:34 AM

doublesecretprobation: let's be serious here, what the hell else are you going to do with 42 POUNDS of meth?


Personal use of course.  From the look of it once  you are on meth you can never have enough meth so even this was probably just his mobile stash.
 
2014-01-24 08:54:57 AM

doublesecretprobation: let's be serious here, what the hell else are you going to do with 42 POUNDS of meth?


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2014-01-24 08:57:09 AM
If an officer asks to search your car and you say no, your car will be searched.

Saying you were going to sell the meth, no matter you were going to be charged with intent to distribute anyway.

/The more you know.
 
2014-01-24 08:59:19 AM
I refused a search once.  I ended up sitting by the side of a road for two hours until a warrant showed up.  There wasn't anything illegal in my car, but I wanted to see what happened.
 
2014-01-24 09:05:57 AM
Amerika- where soldiers are police and police are soldiers.
 
2014-01-24 09:09:53 AM
Better call Saul...
 
2014-01-24 09:10:54 AM
If you refuse a search they'll force you to wait 2 or 3 hours until a K9 unit arrives to do a walk around you car and 'tell' when the handler signals it to, thereby justifying a search on top of wasting your time.
 
2014-01-24 09:12:41 AM
Sounds like he was just a mule moving the meth from point A to B.  Whoever he was working for won't be real happy with his losing 42 POUNDS of the stuff.  I don't think I would want to write a life insurance policy on this guy any time soon.

/perhaps be the beneficiary though...
 
2014-01-24 09:20:20 AM
42 pounds of meth should be a life sentence. I am pro-legalization, but that's into weapons of mass destruction territory. Hundreds, maybe even thousands of lives would have been destroyed if that shipment reached its destination.
 
2014-01-24 09:25:31 AM

mccallcl: 42 pounds of meth should be a life sentence. I am pro-legalization, but that's into weapons of mass destruction territory. Hundreds, maybe even thousands of lives would have been destroyed if that shipment reached its destination.


It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. The only reason anyone would ever have 42 pounds is the fact that it IS illegal.
 
2014-01-24 09:35:53 AM

Pangea: The only reason anyone would ever have 42 pounds is the fact that it IS illegal.


Meth for recreational use isn't much better than poison. There is really no way to use meth in any reasonable quantity that is not dangerous. Until we know more about the drug and how it effects the human brain (FDA trials, etc), it will have to be illegal. How should it be dosed? What packaging is appropriate? What happens to meth that sits unused for 90 days? A year?

Meth is a whole new molecule and humans have never seen anything like it. It's the drug equivalent of splitting the atom. It would take a decade to legalize. Once it is, large quantities like that would be tracked and the authorities would know where it is at all times. Drivers moving 42 lbs of meth should get hazard pay and wear specialized suits while handling it. Society is nowhere near ready for legalizing this shiat. It may never be.
 
2014-01-24 09:42:53 AM
mccallcl


Hundreds, maybe even thousands of lives would have been destroyed if that shipment reached its destination.


A little dramatic this morning?
 
2014-01-24 09:43:44 AM

mccallcl: Pangea: The only reason anyone would ever have 42 pounds is the fact that it IS illegal.

Meth for recreational use isn't much better than poison. There is really no way to use meth in any reasonable quantity that is not dangerous. Until we know more about the drug and how it effects the human brain (FDA trials, etc), it will have to be illegal. How should it be dosed? What packaging is appropriate? What happens to meth that sits unused for 90 days? A year?

Meth is a whole new molecule and humans have never seen anything like it. It's the drug equivalent of splitting the atom. It would take a decade to legalize. Once it is, large quantities like that would be tracked and the authorities would know where it is at all times. Drivers moving 42 lbs of meth should get hazard pay and wear specialized suits while handling it. Society is nowhere near ready for legalizing this shiat. It may never be.


I would say this is a fairly significant departure from your simple claim to be pro-legalization.

It should be amended to say that you're pro-research with an eventual possibility of legalization.

It changes nothing about my claim that no one would have 42 pounds of the drug if it were available legally.
 
2014-01-24 09:44:28 AM

generallyso: If you refuse a search they'll force you to wait 2 or 3 hours until a K9 unit arrives to do a walk around you car and 'tell' when the handler signals it to, thereby justifying a search on top of wasting your time.


Either the handler or the dog screwed this up here then...

"A drug-sniffing dog sniffed around the Tahoe, but did not alert to the presence of narcotics."
 
2014-01-24 10:16:53 AM
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Yew hear that beep? That means there's drugs in there, son. You wanna come clean or do you wanna go to the hospital for an x-ray?

Probable cause = Driving too close to the car in front. Officer then notices additional criminal indicators like a non-white person in the vehicle. Doggy doesn't find anything so they bring out the new toy.
 
2014-01-24 10:57:02 AM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: A little dramatic this morning?


Have you ever tried meth? Do you know any users?

Pangea: I would say this is a fairly significant departure from your simple claim to be pro-legalization.


Meth is a significant departure from all other drugs we know about. It has no medical use, it's effect are extraordinary and very long-lasting. The effects of even short-term abuse can be permanent. Selling meth for recreational consumption is not much different than selling glue or gasoline for recreational consumption, in my opinion. Except that glue and gasoline have a non-recreational use, so meth may be even worse.

So, while I don't feel that meth should be illegal to possess in personal-use quantities, I think it should be illegal to have 42 lbs of it in a moving motor vehicle, driven by a driver unlicensed to carry dangerous chemicals on public roads, on its way to be consumed for fun by thousands of people.

Pangea: It changes nothing about my claim that no one would have 42 pounds of the drug if it were available legally.


...including the fact that you haven't supported it yet.
 
2014-01-24 11:04:05 AM

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Yew hear that beep? That means there's drugs in there, son. You wanna come clean or do you wanna go to the hospital for an x-ray?

Probable cause = Driving too close to the car in front. Officer then notices additional criminal indicators like a non-white person in the vehicle. Doggy doesn't find anything so they bring out the new toy.


But the thing is there actualy was 42 pounds of meth in the car.
 
2014-01-24 11:08:05 AM
"I had the right to remain silent...but I didn't have the ability,"-They Call Me Tater Salad
 
2014-01-24 11:11:24 AM

fireclown: I refused a search once.  I ended up sitting by the side of a road for two hours until a warrant showed up.  There wasn't anything illegal in my car, but I wanted to see what happened.


I assume you have a crappy car that you don't care if the cops tear apart looking for some thing that isn't there.
 
2014-01-24 11:27:03 AM

fireclown: I refused a search once.  I ended up sitting by the side of a road for two hours until a warrant showed up.  There wasn't anything illegal in my car, but I wanted to see what happened.


The important thing was that you learned something.

CSB:

Once I was on the way home from Lowes where I had bought six 50 lb bags of crushed white rock to put on a narrow strip on the side of my house where I didn't want any grass. I put them all in the trunk of my Mustang which caused it to ride really low. I get popped for speeding (55 in a 45 or something). The cop walked up and says something like "Looks like your car is sitting really low."

I think to myself "well I really don't have anything planned for the rest of the day..." so I say "Well that's probably because I am carrying over a hundred kilos of cracked rock back there." Well let me tell you something. That perked up his interest. About a minute later I am sitting on a curb, and 30 seconds after that there are about 3 more squad cars there. The cop who stopped me talks excitedly with his buddies for a minute or two and then they politely ask for my keys. The first cop triumphantly throws open the lid to my trunk with a huge smile on his face, and give the "well look at what I found!" guesture to his buddies. His buddies look for a second and then start laughing. He looks puzzled for a second and takes a closer look.

Well let me tell you something, he did not appear to be pleased. Or, in any way, amused. His fellow cops said a few things to him that I didn't hear and then laughed more. The cop then walks up and asks "You think you're farking funny?" I say "Sir, there is nothing funny about landscapping. I take it very seriously, in fact." He looks at me and says "You know there is no way in hell I am cutting you a break on this ticket right?" I respond "I had a feeling."

I got a nice fine out of it, but I think it was worth it.
 
2014-01-24 11:31:06 AM

mccallcl: Do you know any users?


Yeah. I grew up and lived in the NE counties with the highest usage rates, and I'm related to some ex users. Their lives weren't destroyed by meth (a few have destroyed their lives, but the meth was incidental). It's not a great drug by any means, but it's not as bad as the 9oclock news tells you.

mccallcl: It has no medical use


You might want to tell the doctors and patients using it medically, I'm sure this is information they are going to need sooner rather than later.

Random Anonymous Blackmail: If an officer asks to search your car and you say no, your car will be searched.


Nope. Is there a decent chance of that happening? Sure. Is refusal automatically considered probable cause for a search? Nope.
 
2014-01-24 12:06:55 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: Their lives weren't destroyed by meth


I know probably ten former (possibly current) users. Of those, one has a normal life (car, job, home). The rest are either homeless or in some other desperate situation. Their personalities have been permanently altered, and they suffer from obvious brain damage and brain-chemistry mood issues. I have lost contact with a few, but last time I saw one she was still using, homeless and pregnant.

These people are all in their early thirties or younger. Some have been using for 5 years and some less than a year. Not sleeping makes it extremely hard to hold down a job and it ruins personal relationships and mental health very quickly. Meth smokers seem to go to around-the-clock smokers as quickly as potheads and think it's a totally reasonable thing to do all day.

I've known cokeheads, opiate addicts, all kinds of drug users. Meth users go downhill faster than any other drug user, by an order of magnitude. We gotta be careful with this one.
 
2014-01-24 12:10:25 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: You might want to tell the doctors and patients using it medically, I'm sure this is information they are going to need sooner rather than later.


Just looked it up, I am shocked and surprised that this is happening. I knew about Amphetamines of other kinds being administered, but I am surprised at this news. The only thing I can say is that perhaps in pill form it's more difficult to smoke? Thanks for the info, I will note the trade name.
 
2014-01-24 01:36:21 PM

mccallcl: Noticeably F.A.T.: Their lives weren't destroyed by meth

I know probably ten former (possibly current) users. Of those, one has a normal life (car, job, home). The rest are either homeless or in some other desperate situation. Their personalities have been permanently altered, and they suffer from obvious brain damage and brain-chemistry mood issues. I have lost contact with a few, but last time I saw one she was still using, homeless and pregnant.

These people are all in their early thirties or younger. Some have been using for 5 years and some less than a year. Not sleeping makes it extremely hard to hold down a job and it ruins personal relationships and mental health very quickly. Meth smokers seem to go to around-the-clock smokers as quickly as potheads and think it's a totally reasonable thing to do all day.

I've known cokeheads, opiate addicts, all kinds of drug users. Meth users go downhill faster than any other drug user, by an order of magnitude. We gotta be careful with this one.


Amen. It was around in the late 60s and 70s when I was growing up but I never heard about it being smoked back then, only snorted. Just now learned it has legit medical uses. Suprised because I saw meth and huffing paint thinner damage more than a few people in the neighborhood.
 
2014-01-24 01:40:50 PM

mccallcl: I've known cokeheads, opiate addicts, all kinds of drug users. Meth users go downhill faster than any other drug user, by an order of magnitude. We gotta be careful with this one.


To be clear, I was really only addressing the concept that meth WILL destroy your life. Your life getting farked up does seem to have a higher probability that other hard drugs, but from what I've been able to gather that's highly dependent on the other aspects in a user's life and nothing inherent in the drug. If a person is inclined (for whatever reason) to have their life destroyed, meth is going to go a long way towards that happening, moreso than other drugs. If they're not, it won't.

mccallcl: Just looked it up, I am shocked and surprised that this is happening.


I had to look up the specific ailments, but I assumed it was still being used medically. That assumption came from the fact that it was created in a lab, meaning someone was trying to do something good with it. If it wasn't able to do something, it would have never made it out of the lab, it'd be just another failed experiment.
 
2014-01-24 01:54:23 PM
If they were intelligent they wouldn't be drug dealers.
 
2014-01-24 02:13:15 PM
"My psychiatrist changed my prescription."
 
2014-01-24 03:01:51 PM

doublesecretprobation: let's be serious here, what the hell else are you going to do with 42 POUNDS of meth?


Hire a bunch of meth whores and have one HELL of an orgy.

/If raw-dogging a meth whore is good enough for Jessie, it's good enough for me.
 
2014-01-24 03:15:19 PM

mccallcl: Noticeably F.A.T.: Their lives weren't destroyed by meth

I know probably ten former (possibly current) users. Of those, one has a normal life (car, job, home). The rest are either homeless or in some other desperate situation. Their personalities have been permanently altered, and they suffer from obvious brain damage and brain-chemistry mood issues. I have lost contact with a few, but last time I saw one she was still using, homeless and pregnant.

These people are all in their early thirties or younger. Some have been using for 5 years and some less than a year. Not sleeping makes it extremely hard to hold down a job and it ruins personal relationships and mental health very quickly. Meth smokers seem to go to around-the-clock smokers as quickly as potheads and think it's a totally reasonable thing to do all day.

I've known cokeheads, opiate addicts, all kinds of drug users. Meth users go downhill faster than any other drug user, by an order of magnitude. We gotta be careful with this one.


You don't happen to have her # would you?
 
2014-01-24 04:50:59 PM
I was surprised to learn recently that the Blitzkreig (the rapid conquest of territory in Europe by the German army at the start of World War II) was largely fueled by meth. All the major powers supplied speed to their troops. The Americans favored amphetamine, the British liked dextroamphetamine, and the Germans used methamphetamine. Both the American and the British militaries commissioned scientific studies to learn whether speed improved performance. The scientists said it didn't, but the military leaders ignored them.

I learned all this from the book "On Speed: The Many Lives of Amphetamine" by Nicolas Rasmussen.
 
2014-01-24 05:01:17 PM

dittybopper: Also, your refusal to give consent can't be used to justify a search.

*JUST*SAY*NO*.


From a strictly legal standpoint you are right but in texas on the I40 you're pretty much giving up your rights like when you use the airport.

mccallcl: 42 pounds of meth should be a life sentence. I am pro-legalization, but that's into weapons of mass destruction territory. Hundreds, maybe even thousands of lives would have been destroyed if that shipment reached its destination.


Congratulations, you're a part of the reason we have millions of peoples lives ruined a year for nonviolent drug offenses.  It doesn't matter what you"pro legalization" after thought is.

Yea meth, is nearing that krocostuff from russia as far as dangers but meth is a product of our drug laws.  People  willget high and laws banning the lesser dangerous but harder to manufacture/distribute.

It's not to often you see a relatively normal person get hooked on meth, it's usually just another escalation in their addictive personality.  What you do see is doctors putting young normal people on oxy and  turning them into full on opiate addicts, or handing out adderall like it's flinstones vitamins.  Who's the real danger here?
 
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